CAPTIONING
FEBRUARY 9, 2015
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
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>>MITCH THROWER: WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 9th, 2015, PUBLIC
HEARING OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CPA 14-092.
WE THANK --
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>>MITCH THROWER: WE THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THIS
MEETING.
YOUR COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION ARE ENCOURAGED.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE SIGN THE REGISTER AT THE REAR OF THE ROOM AND
TURN OFF ANY DEVICES THAT MAY BE A DISTRACTION.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON A SPECIFIC AMENDMENT,
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE COMPLETE THE APPROPRIATE PUBLIC COMMENT
SIGN-IN SHEET AT THE REAR OF THE ROOM NOW.
WHEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, PLEASE BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME,
ADDRESS, AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROCESS, THE
MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS: THE AGENDA ITEM WILL BE
INTRODUCED, STAFF WILL GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION WITH A 15-MINUTE
TIME LIMIT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A
PRESENTATION WITH A 15-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE
PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE HEARD FOR THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE AFFORDED A THREE-MINUTE PERIOD FOR
REBUTTAL OR RESPONSE.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WILL THEN ASK QUESTIONS.
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL THEN BE CLOSED, THEN UPON A MOTION, A
SECOND, A VOTE WILL BE TAKEN.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
[ROLL CALL TAKEN]
>> WE HAVE A QUORUM.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
NEXT, COMMISSIONER GREEN IS GOING TO LEAD US IN AN INVOCATION
AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: HEAVENLY FATHER, BEFORE YOU TODAY
WE PRAY [OFF MICROPHONE]
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
>>MITCH THROWER: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREEN.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE -- WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE ROLL CALL, SO WE'RE
GOING TO DO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
>> MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PROPOSED,
MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> SECOND.
>>MITCH THROWER: SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[CHORUS OF AYES]
ANYONE OPPOSED?
MINUTES ARE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY.
NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT, PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
OKAY.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
IT'S THE AREAWIDE JAN K. PLATT ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS ACQUISITION
AND PROTECTION PROGRAM, ELAPP.
SHAWN COLLEGE, WELCOME.
>>SHAWN COLLEGE: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
SHAWN COLLEGE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS ITEM IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S
JAN K. PLATT ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS ACQUISITION AND PROTECTION
PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL PROTECTING APPROXIMATELY
61,000 ACRES LOCALLY HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FOR LONG-TERM
CONSERVATION.
IT'S BEEN A MODEL CERTAINLY IN THE STATE, AND IF NOT, MOST OF
THE UNITED STATES FOR A GREAT, SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM OF ENVIRONMENTAL
-- LOCAL PROGRAM FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS ACQUISITION.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE WITH US TODAY MR. ROSS
DICKERSON.
MR. DICKERSON IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS MANAGER FOR THE
ELAP PROGRAM, AND HE'LL BE COMING UP TO YOU TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE
PROGRAM.
THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONERS, FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
REQUESTING AND GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY.
I LIKE TO TALK WITH MY HANDS, AND I LIKE TO WALK AROUND.
I WILL STAY AS CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE AS POSSIBLE, BUT I MIGHT
GET A LITTLE FAR AWAY.
LUCKILY, WE'RE IN A CLOSE ROOM THAT WE CAN ALL TALK TO EACH
OTHER.
MY NAME'S ROSS DICKERSON.
I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS MANAGER OF THE JAN K. PLATT ELAP
PROGRAM.
MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW ELAPP STANDS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL
LANDS ACQUISITION AND PROTECTION PROGRAM.
IT STARTED IN 1987, AND AS SHAWN SAID, WE HAVE BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST 27 YEARS.
IN FACT, WE ARE VIEWED AS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN
THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY AND CURRENT SYNOPSIS OF
WHERE WE ARE AND THEN WHERE WE'RE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE, AND
HOPEFULLY HOW AMENDMENT 1, THE INITIATIVE, WILL HELP US ACQUIRE
MORE LANDS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
AS I SAID, ELAPP STARTED IN 1987 AS THE VOTER-APPROVED
REFERENDUM.
IT WAS EXTENDED AGAIN IN 1990, AND THEN IT WAS EXTENDED AGAIN IN
2008, WITH NEARLY 79% OF THE VOTERS APPROVING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
TO TAX THEM TO ACQUIRE THESE LANDS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IN 2008 THE
ECONOMY WAS NOT DOING SO WELL, BUT THE VOTERS STILL SAID THAT THEY
WANTED TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM, WHICH ACQUIRES NATURAL LANDS IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY.
TO DATE, WE HAVE ACQUIRED OVER 61,000 ACRES, 61,523 TO BE
EXACT.
WE HAVE 61 PROTECTED SITES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND WE HAVE
FOUR FIELD OFFICES.
WE HAVE A NORTHWEST, A NORTHEAST, A CENTRAL, AND A SOUTH OFFICE
WITH 28 STAFF TO MANAGE ALL THAT PROPERTY.
THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE SPENT A TOTAL OF $258.6
MILLION TO ACQUIRE THE 61,000 ACRES.
OF THIS, 174 MILLION HAS COME FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND RECEIVED $84.6
MILLION FROM PARTNER AGENCIES TO ACQUIRE THESE LANDS.
THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING CAME FROM THE FLORIDA COMMUNITIES
TRUST, WHICH USED TO BE UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS,
DCA, BUT THEY'RE NOW UNDER DEP -- DCA IS NO LONGER IN THE STATE --
AND THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
ALL THE ACREAGE WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR PROGRAM HAS BEEN
ACQUIRED FEE SIMPLE, WHICH MEANS WE OWN IT OR THE OTHER AGENCIES
OWN IT, WE HOLD TITLE, AND THERE'S NO -- AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY
CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
OUR POLICIES ALLOW FOR THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS
TIME.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A FEW, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
THIS MAP RIGHT HERE SHOWS ALL THE PROPERTIES IN RED THAT ELAPP
HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH PURCHASING.
MOST NOTABLY, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE COUNTY, WHICH IS THE
LOWER GREEN SWAMP PRESERVE, 12,800 ACRES.
IT'S OUR LARGEST SITE THAT WE HAVE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
SO HOW DO WE GET THESE PROPERTIES, WHERE DO THEY COME FROM, HOW
DO THEY GET INTO THE PROGRAM?
WE ARE A 100% VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NO REGULATORY AUTHORITY.
WE CANNOT CONDEMN PROPERTIES INTO ELAPP.
ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ARE NOMINATED BY CITIZENS.
CITIZENS CAN NOMINATE OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, BUT WE DO NOT
STEP FOOT OR RANK THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT GETTING THE CONSENT OF THE
LANDOWNER BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
THIS IS VERY HARD TO READ ON MY SCREEN, I'M SURE IT'S HARD TO
READ ON YOURS AS WELL, BUT THIS IS THE BASIC TO GET IT IN THE
PROGRAM, WE ASK THAT THEY LOOK AT THE SEVEN CRITERIA ON THE
RIGHT-HAND PAGE, EXHIBIT "B," AND TELL US WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITIES THE SITE HAS AND WHY IT SHOULD BE RANKED IN THE
PROGRAM.
THE SITE NEEDS TO AT LEAST MEET ONE OF THE SEVEN CRITERIA TO BE
CONSIDERED FURTHER IN THE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE SITES RANGING FROM 20 ACRES ALL THE WAY UP TO 12,800
ACRES, SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF SIZE, IT'S REALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITIES OF THAT SITE.
THIS IS OUR TIMELINE.
ALL PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOMINATED BETWEEN JANUARY AND DECEMBER
31st OF 2014, WILL NOW BE REVIEWED THIS YEAR.
PSA STANDS FOR PRELIMINARY SITE ASSESSMENT.
THOSE ARE DUE APRIL 1st, AND THAT'S WHERE I TAKE THOSE
NOMINATION FORMS, I BRING IT TO THE SITE ASSESSMENT -- THE SITE
TEAM, AND WE KIND OF REVIEW IT BASED ON AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND WHAT
PEOPLE WROTE DOWN.
THEN IF IT PASSES THAT PART OF THE PROCESS, IT GOES TO THE SITE
REVIEW TEAM, AND THEY DETERMINE IF IT GOES TO A FULL SITE
ASSESSMENT.
A FULL SITE ASSESSMENT IS WHERE ME AND SEVEN OTHER STAFF MEMBERS
GO OUT ON THE SITES, WE FIELD VERIFY THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES OF
THAT SITE, AND WE WRITE A REPORT.
AFTER THAT, IT GOES TO THE SITE REVIEW TEAM.
THEN IT GOES TO THE SITE REVIEW TEAM AGAIN DURING A PUBLIC
MEETING, THEN COMMENTS -- THE PUBLIC HAS COMMENTS, AND THEY RANK
IT, AND IT EITHER BECOMES A CLASS "A," "B," OR
"C" SITE DEPENDING ON THE SCORE THAT IT GETS.
SO WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH ELAPP?
THE BIGGEST QUESTION WE GET ASKED ALL THE TIME IS HOW MUCH
PRESERVATION IS ENOUGH, AND THAT'S REALLY HARD TO ANSWER.
THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES THAT IT'S HARD TO JUST SAY, WELL, WE
NEED ANOTHER 30,000 ACRES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
AND BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE 2008 REFERENDUM, WE -- THERE'S
NO WAY THAT ALL OF THE SITES THAT ARE LISTED ON OUR APPROVED LIST
COULD BE ACQUIRED.
IT WOULD TAKE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE
THESE.
IT'S 40-SOMETHING THOUSAND ACRES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND
WITH PROPERTY PRICES BEING THE WAY THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO
WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY BUY ALL THAT PROPERTY.
SO WE ASKED OURSELVES A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
HOW MANY SITES REMAIN UNDEVELOPED, WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED, AND
HOW SHOULD THEY BE PRIORITIZED FOR ACQUISITION.
AND, AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON THE SITES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE
PROGRAM.
THIS IS A MORE STRATEGIC APPROACH SO WE CAN SIT DOWN AS STAFF,
LOOK AT THE CRITICAL WILDLIFE CORRIDORS THAT ARE NECESSARY IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO CONNECT ALL OF OUR SITES.
WE'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB PROTECTING THESE SITES, BUT A LOT OF
TIMES WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LINKS, SO THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE ISOLATED
ISLANDS OUT THERE, AND WE NEED TO GET THESE WILDLIFE LINKS TO THOSE
SITES.
SO WE CAME UP WITH ANOTHER LAYER TO PRIORITIZE OUR SITES, SO WE
HAVE THE SITES GETTING INTO THE PROGRAM BASED ON THEIR
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES, AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER LAYER OF CRITICAL
NEEDS THAT LEAD US TO SAY THEY'RE MORE IMPORTANT, MAYBE, THAN OTHER
SITES TO PURCHASE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY CRITICAL UPLAND WILDLIFE CORRIDORS
THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS, IN
PARTICULAR, THOSE WITHIN ADJACENT WITH OR ADJACENT TO THE URBAN
SERVICES AREA BOUNDARY.
THESE LANDS MAY BE DISTURBED, UNDISTURBED, OR BOTH, WHICH IS A
DIFFERENT WAY OF GOING ABOUT THE ELAP PROGRAM BECAUSE WHEN THE
PROGRAM STARTED IN '87, THERE WAS LOTS OF NATURAL AREAS OUT THERE
THAT WERE UNDISTURBED.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY ANYMORE, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL
LINKAGES TO MAKE THESE CORRIDORS, ESPECIALLY THOSE NEAR THE URBAN
SERVICE BOUNDARY.
WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE UPLAND SITES WHERE THE RIVERINE
CONNECTIONS ARE EITHER ABSENT OR NOT SUBSTANTIAL.
WHAT THIS -- AGAIN, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, EPC, DEP, EVERYBODY,
GREAT JOB PROTECTING THESE WETLAND CORRIDORS, THESE RIVERINE
SYSTEMS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THOSE RIVERINE SYSTEMS AREN'T WIDE
ENOUGH FOR UPLAND MAMMALS TO MOVE THROUGH.
FOR A BOBCAT, FOR INSTANCE, A BOBCAT DOESN'T KNOW IT NEEDS TO
HANG A LEFT AND GO THROUGH THE RIVER CORRIDOR AND HURRY UP AND GET
THROUGH TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE BIG SITE IS.
A WILDLIFE -- A FUNCTIONAL WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, ONE OF THE
CRITICAL COMPONENTS IS IT HAS ENOUGH HABITAT FOR THAT ANIMAL TO
SUSTAIN ITSELF WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AS IT MOVES THROUGH, SO IT HAS
TO HAVE FOOD, WATER, EVERYTHING TO MOVE THROUGH.
WE LOOK AT UPLAND CONNECTIONS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY
HAVE A VARIETY OF SOIL TYPES SO WE CAN MAKE AN ECOLOGICALLY SOUND
HABITAT FOR ALL ANIMALS, ARE THE MORE MAXIMUM HABITAT, THE MORE
ANIMALS, THE MORE DIVERSITY.
AND THEN WE WANT TO FOCUS ON EXPANDING ELAPP PRESERVES WHENEVER
POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE ONES THAT GET DEVELOPED NEXT TO OUR SITES,
HOMES COME RIGHT UP TO OUR BOUNDARIES, AND IT MAKES IT VERY
DIFFICULT FOR US TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY ONCE THE HOMES ARE THERE
BECAUSE WE DO PRESCRIBED FIRE, WE SPRAY CHEMICALS, WE DO ALL OF
THAT STUFF, AND WHEN A HOUSE COMES RIGHT UP TO OUR PROPERTY, IT'S
REALLY HARD FOR US TO MANAGE THE SITE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE AREAS, IN PARTICULARLY FARMS THAT ARE
STILL OUT THERE NEXT TO OUR SITES, SO WE CAN DO MAYBE A LESS-THAN
FEE AND KEEP THEM AS A BUFFER TO OUR ELAP PROGRAM.
AND THIS MAP HERE SHOWS WHAT WE PROPOSED AS BEING THE MOST
CRITICAL SITES, MOSTLY DOWN -- IF YOU LOOK IN SOUTH CENTRAL
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, COMING UP FROM MANATEE COUNTY, YOU CAN SEE HOW
WE'VE CONNECTED THAT CORRIDOR, AND THAT CORRIDOR ACTUALLY COMES ALL
THE WAY FROM MANATEE COUNTY UP TO THE LITHIA AREA, TO THE
RESERVOIR, AND OUT THROUGH ENGLISH CREEK INTO POLK COUNTY.
AND THEN THE MOST NOTABLE SITE, THE LARGEST SITE THAT'S ON HERE,
IS TWO RIVERS RANCH, WHICH IS UP IN NORTH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NEXT
TO THE LOWER GREEN SWAMP.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS?
WELL, IN 2008 THE VOTERS -- THAT VOTER-APPROVED REFERENDUM WAS
FOR $200 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS.
TO DATE $59 MILLION WERE ISSUED, AND WE ONLY HAVE $3.5 MILLION
LEFT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING -- STAFF IS LOOKING AT WAYS TO TAKE THAT $3.5
MILLION AND TURN IT INTO $10-, $15-, $20 MILLION THROUGH GRANT
FUNDS TO GET THE LAND THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
THE FLORIDA WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION INITIATIVE, BETTER KNOWN
AS AMENDMENT 1, WE'RE HOPING CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU KNOW IT DESIGNATES 33% OF THE REVENUE TO
LAND ACQUISITION, AND IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THIS YEAR ALONE THAT'S
$648 MILLION, AND THEN BY THE YEAR '20, IT'S GOING TO BE $1.26
BILLION DEDICATED TO LAND ACQUISITION IN FLORIDA.
NOW, THAT AMENDMENT CAN BE DICED AND TURNED AND LOOKED AT MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT IT DOES HAVE A MAJOR PURPOSE, EVEN THOUGH IT
DOESN'T DEDICATE WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING, IT DOES HAVE A PURPOSE,
AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THAT TO EVERYBODY, BUT THE PURPOSE
PRETTY MUCH IS TO ACQUIRE LANDS THAT ARE NATURAL, THAT PROVIDE
DRINKING WATER SOURCES, THAT PURIFY THE WATER THAT WE DRINK, THAT
ARE A CULTURAL RESOURCE SITE, LIKE SHELL MOUNDS AND EVERYTHING, IN
COCKROACH BAY THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES SITES OUT
THERE, AND THEN WORKING FARMS AND RANCHES, WHICH ARE HUGE IN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA WAS BUILT ON, AND THEY
DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT STUFF.
SO THIS AMENDMENT PASSED ON NOVEMBER 4th WITH 74.96 OF THE
VOTE.
SO PEOPLE WANT IT.
THEY WANT THEIR MONEY GOING BACK TO BUYING THESE LANDS.
HISTORICALLY -- SO HOW DOES ELAPP FIT INTO AMENDMENT 1?
HISTORICALLY, MONEY FROM THE LAND ACQUISITION FUND WAS PUT INTO
THE FLORIDA FOREVER STATUTE, AND THE FLORIDA FOREVER STATUTE
DICTATED WHERE THE MONEY WAS PASSED DOWN TO IN THE STATE AGENCIES
THAT WOULD THEN BE PASSED OUT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND EVERYTHING
LIKE THAT.
AMENDMENT 1 DID NOT DICTATE WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING TO GO, SO
WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO INTO THE FLORIDA
FOREVER STATUTE, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOME WILL GO INTO THAT, AND WE'RE
HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BECAUSE, AS YOU'LL
SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL
IN GETTING MONEY FROM THESE AGENCIES, AND THE THREE AGENCIES THAT
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING MONEY FROM ARE THE ONES THAT
GET THE MAJORITY, 86%, OF THE FUNDS.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH KIND OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE
HAVE RECEIVED FROM THESE AREAS AND WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET MORE
MONEY FROM THESE AREAS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ALMOST $10 MILLION FROM THE DIVISION OF STATE
LANDS UNDER THE CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS PROGRAM.
THAT WAS THE 30% ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
THE CALL PROGRAM, AS IT WAS KNOWN, DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.
AND THE CALL PROGRAM HELPED US BUY LAND, BUT THEY DON'T GIVE US
ANY MONEY TO MANAGE THIS PROPERTY, WHICH, OF COURSE, CAN GET VERY
EXPENSIVE AT TIMES.
THE CALL PROGRAM IS NOW CALLED FLORIDA FOREVER, NOT TO BE
CONFUSED WITH THE FLORIDA FOREVER STATUTE.
IT'S THE FLORIDA FOREVER PROGRAM, WHICH IS UNDER THE FLORIDA
FOREVER STATUTE.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT WHEN THE MONEY WAS BEING DESIGNATED
TO THE FLORIDA FOREVER PROGRAM THAT GOVERNOR SCOTT TALKED ABOUT
LAST WEEK THAT IT WAS GOING INTO THE STATUTE.
IT'S NOT.
IT'S GOING INTO THE PROGRAM, NOT THE STATUTE ITSELF.
THAT PROGRAM CURRENTLY HAS A LIST OF 118 PROJECTS, WHICH HAVE
BEEN AROUND FOR 20-PLUS YEARS, SOME OF THEM.
THIS PROGRAM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET
MANAGEMENT COSTS FROM THEM, SO WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT EVEN IF WE
DON'T HAVE A SITE THAT MEETS THEIR CRITERIA THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF
THEIR FUNDS TO MANAGE THE CALL SITES THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED THAT
-- BACK IN THE DAY.
WE DO NOT HAVE A SITE ON THAT LIST.
WE DID HAVE A SITE ON THAT LIST, BUT THE OWNER ASKED US TO TAKE
IT OFF, AND SINCE, AGAIN, WE'RE 100% VOLUNTARY, WE TOOK IT OFF THE
LIST.
AND ALSO, THAT ALSO GAVE ANOTHER SITE THE OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING
ON THAT LIST.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING TO THAT PREVIOUS OWNER WHO STILL
OWNS THE PROPERTY AND ANOTHER OWNER IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND
WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN FIND WILLING OWNERS SO THAT WE CAN APPLY
FOR SOME OF THIS FLORIDA FOREVER, BECAUSE THE SITE THAT WE DID HAD
WAS -- DID HAVE WAS A NO-BRAINER.
I MEAN, IT MADE THE LIST, IT WAS RANKED VERY HIGH, AND WE'RE
HOPING THAT WE CAN TALK TO THAT OWNER AND SEE IF HE'D BE WILLING TO
MOVE FORWARD TO GET IT BACK ON THE LIST.
THE FLORIDA COMMUNITIES TRUST, WHICH IS NOW UNDER THE DEPARTMENT
OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, THEY'RE THERE TO ASSIST COMMUNITIES IN
PROTECTING IMPORTANT NATURAL RESOURCES, PROVIDING RECREATION
OPPORTUNITIES, AND PRESERVING FLORIDA'S TRADITIONAL WORKING
WATERFRONTS.
OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WORKING WATERFRONTS IN ELAPP, SO
THE GRANTING PROGRAM WE GO TO IS THE PARK AND OPEN SPACE PROGRAM,
AND THIS PROGRAM IS VERY COMPETITIVE, AND WHAT YOU DO IS YOU SUBMIT
YOUR APPLICATION, AND THEY LOOK AT THE NATURAL AREAS, THEY LOOK AT
THE RECREATION THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY, THEY REALLY
LOOK AT THE BENEFIT THAT THIS SITE PROVIDES THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T JUST BASE IT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES OF THAT
SITE.
SO THIS HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO US.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF OUR RECREATION DONE THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE RECEIVED ALMOST $40 MILLION FROM
FCT OVER THE YEARS, WHICH IS 40% OF OUR TOTAL JOINT FUNDING.
WE HAD THREE PROPERTIES ON THEIR LIST WHEN THEY LOST THEIR
FUNDING TO BE FUNDED, AND IF FUNDING IS RESTORED TO THIS PROGRAM,
WE WILL BE SUBMITTING THOSE THREE PROJECTS AGAIN AND SEVERAL
MORE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICT, WE'VE RECEIVED JUST OVER $26 MILLION OVER THE
YEARS, AND THEY GIVE US MONEY FOR ACQUISITION.
WE BUY THE PROPERTY, THEY GIVE US 50% OF THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE
PROPERTY THAT WE PAID, AND THEN WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
THEM, WHICH THEY REIMBURSE US 50% OF OUR MANAGEMENT COST FOR THAT
PROPERTY.
SO THEY -- WE BUY IT, THEY PAY US HALF, THEY HOLD TITLE, AND
THEN THEY GIVE US 50% OF OUR MANAGEMENT COSTS.
IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THEY'RE STILL GIVING US 50% REIMBURSEMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY LOST
THEIR FUNDING, FOR ACQUISITION ITSELF.
WE HAD A FEW PROPERTIES ON THEIR LIST, AGAIN, WHEN THEY LOST
THEIR FUNDING IN 2008, BUT WE ARE READY TO RESUME COOPERATIVE
FUNDING EFFORTS WITH THEM SHOULD THEY GET FUNDING AGAIN.
SO IN CONCLUSION -- AND I DO, AFTER THIS -- IF ANYBODY WANTS TO
KNOW HOW WE MANAGE THESE SITES AND EVERYTHING, I DO HAVE EXAMPLES
OF THAT AS WELL, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS WAS THE FOCUS TODAY.
ELAPP HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN PRESERVING LANDS.
AS I SAID, WE REALLY ARE -- ARE VIEWED AS ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES.
ONE OF THE FIRST TOO.
THAT'S SOMETHING I FORGOT TO SAY.
WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO START THIS, AND HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
THE COUNTY ISSUED BONDS ARE DWINDLING, AND STAFF IS REALLY
LOOKING HARD TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE $3.5 MILLION WE HAVE LEFT BY
GETTING GRANT FUNDS.
THE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT 1 COULD OFFER ASSISTANCE, BUT WE'RE
NOT SURE WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING TO GO YET.
WE'RE READY TO GO FOR FLORIDA COMMUNITIES TRUST, WE'RE READY TO
GO WITH SWFWMD, AND WE ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO FIND A PROJECT
THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR THE FLORIDA FOREVER PROGRAM.
AND JUST SO -- JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE FLORIDA FOREVER
PROGRAM, THAT 118 PROJECTS, THEY DO HAVE SITES THAT ARE A COUPLE
HUNDRED ACRES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEIR SITES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
LIST, ARE 50,000, 500,000, I MEAN HUGE, VAST AREAS OF NATURAL LANDS
THAT ARE OUT THERE IS REALLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ON THIS
LIST.
DO YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING OR DO YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS?
>>MITCH THROWER: WELL, KEEP GOING.
ARE YOU ALMOST FINISHED, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT, AND THEN I WAS GOING TO HAVE -- AT THE END, WHEN YOU
FINISHED, I WAS GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
>> WELL, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE ALL THIS IN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTED TO SEE EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE ON
THE SITES, BUT THAT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 10, 15 MINUTES.
>>MITCH THROWER: ACTUALLY, LET'S PROBABLY CUT IT OFF FOR
NOW, IF EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT.
MAYBE WE COULD HAVE YOU COME BACK ANOTHER TIME.
>> SURE.
>>MITCH THROWER: BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PRETTY FULL
AGENDA.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
COMMISSIONER PIKE.
>>GARY PIKE: I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DEFINES SUCCESSFUL
IN THE SOUTHEAST?
WHEN YOU SAY "SUCCESSFUL," IS IT THE LAND THAT YOU
ACQUIRED, IS IT THE ANIMALS?
>> IT IS.
OUT OF THE LOCAL PROGRAMS, OUR PROGRAM HAS BEEN THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL IN PURCHASING THE MOST AMOUNT OF LAND.
WHEN WE WERE DOING AN ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THE COUNTIES JUST IN
FLORIDA ITSELF, A LOT OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF ACRES WHERE THEY RECEIVED ASSISTANCE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WHEN YOU CLICK ON LOCAL
DOLLARS SPENT AND ACREAGE PRESERVED, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CAME UP
NUMBER ONE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
SO WE'VE BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL.
I DON'T -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO IF WE'VE BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN
PARTNERING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL IN PURCHASING THE LAND AND ACQUIRING AS MANY
ACRES --
>>GARY PIKE: PER ACRE?
>> PER ACRE, CORRECT.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
COMMISSIONER DOUGHTY.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
MR. DICKERSON, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OR ASK YOU SOME
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OVERALL PROGRAM.
YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO TARGET PARTICULAR PROPERTIES OR
HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THEM.
EVERYBODY HAS TO NOMINATE A PARCEL TO YOU, BUT WHILE THE
GREENWAYS CORRIDORS ARE A GOOD THING, DO YOU ALSO LOOK AT THOSE
AREAS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY
ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE THAT HAVE BEEN DISTURBED, NOT NECESSARILY
DEVELOPED UPON BUT DISTURBED THAT COULD BE RESTORED AND HAVE A
BIGGER BANG THAN PROTECTING, SAY, A PRAIRIE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE
ELSE AS FAR AS THAT GOES?
>> YES, WE DO.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRITERIA WAS LOOKING AT LANDS THAT EVEN IF
THEY ARE DISTURBED, IF THEY HAVE THAT NICE SOIL, MOSAIC, AND
THEY'RE IN A CRITICAL AREA FOR THAT WILDLIFE CORRIDOR OR URBAN
SPRAWL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE ON THAT STRATEGIC PLAN
LIST, YES.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OKAY.
AND THEN DO YOU -- CAN YOU GIVE -- DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR --
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE -- YOU KNOW, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE
SITES.
IF WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO COLLECT MONEY TO ACQUIRE
PROPERTIES, OBVIOUSLY THE COST OF MANAGEMENT CONTINUE TUESDAY GO
UP.
>> CORRECT.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WHAT -- DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE
PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUDGET THAT GOES TOWARDS MANAGEMENT VERSUS GOING
TOWARDS -- AT SOME POINT IN TIME YOU'RE GOING TO REACH A POINT
WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING MORE MANAGING THAN YOU ARE IN TRYING TO
ACQUIRE.
>> RIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE.
LAST TIME WE FIGURED IT FOR THE BUDGET IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT WE WERE DOING.
IT COST A TOTAL OF $26 PER ACRE TO BE -- TO MANAGE THE
PROPERTY.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OKAY.
AND THEN DO -- WITH -- FROM THE REMAINING FUNDS, I GUESS, NOT --
EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF THERE WAS
$100 AVAILABLE AND YOU'RE SPENDING $26, WHATEVER, OF THAT REMAINING
FUNDS, ARE YOU TARGETING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT FOR
ACQUISITION OR -- OR WHAT -- WHAT PERCENTAGE MIGHT BE FOR RETROFIT,
FOR RESTORATION.
>> SURE.
THE REMAINING $3.5 MILLION, THAT MONEY -- SINCE IT'S BOND FUNDS,
IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON CAPITAL, SO IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON
ACQUISITION OR RESTORATION OF THE SITE.
WE DON'T HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT WE USE.
WHEN WE GO TO BUY A SITE, THAT'S ONE OF THE ASSESSMENTS THAT WE
DO.
WE LOOK AT THE SITE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO
COST TO PUT IN THE FENCING, REMOVE WHATEVER MAY BE OUT THERE,
RESTORE THE SITE.
WE ALWAYS DO OUR BEST NOT TO GO ABOVE 10% OF THE ACQUISITION
COSTS FOR --
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: FOR RESTORATION?
>> RESTORATION, MANAGEMENT -- I'M SORRY, ALL CAPITAL
TO GET THAT SITE UP IN ORDER, SO WE TRY TO KEEP IT ALL BELOW
10%.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OKAY.
AND THEN I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH DEBBIE GLICKSBERG'S
GROUP, POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE IN THE RESTORATION OF THESE THINGS, YOU
MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME -- OR THE COUNTY ITSELF, IN DOING ALL OF
THIS, MAY BE ABLE TO GET CREDITS FOR WATER QUALITY TREATMENT THAT'S
ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS WITH TMDLs AND ALL
THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING DOWN.
I THINK THE COUNTY COULD ALSO -- IT'S GETTING A DOUBLE BANG FOR
THE BUCK.
>> RIGHT.
AND WE -- ACTUALLY, WE USED TO BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE GREATLY ON
THE MITIGATION THAT'S NECESSARY FOR WETLANDS AND EVERYTHING, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, AS I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU KNOW, THE STATE AGENCIES
ARE NOW PUSHING THEM TOWARDS BANKS.
SO WHAT WE USED TO GET -- WE USED TO BUY THE PROPERTY, AND IF IT
WAS A DISTURBED AREA, WE WOULD OFFER IT FOR MITIGATION AND THEY
WOULD RESTORE IT FOR US --
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: CORRECT.
>> -- BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN
THESE DAYS.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU CAN GET WATER
QUALITY CREDITS LIKE YOU USED TO GET MITIGATION CREDITS NOW.
>> GREAT.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COMMISSIONER GREEN, THEN COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: YES.
ROSS, YOU MENTIONED EARLY ON THAT SOME OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN
ACQUIRED HAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON IT, AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT
YOU WERE ALLUDING TO.
I HAVE A -- I THINK I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT A
CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS OR MEANS, BUT I GUESS -- BECAUSE PART OF
MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH WHAT DOES THAT MEAN RELEVANT TO LAND
USE?
>> SURE.
ACTUALLY, I SAID WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTIES THAT WE BOUGHT
LESS-THAN FEE, WHICH WOULD BE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
WE DO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT
A PROPERTY FOR A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, USUALLY IT'S A FARM OR A
CATTLE RANCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WHAT THE CONSERVATION
EASEMENT WOULD DICTATE IS THAT THAT FARMER OR RANCHER IS ALLOWED TO
CONTINUE TO USE THAT PROPERTY AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE, BUT
TECHNICALLY, WE WOULD OWN THE DIRT AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO
ANY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE, SO IT REALLY WOULD BE SUSTAINING
THE AGRICULTURAL -- AGRICULTURE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IF WE WENT
TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO PROVIDE VALUABLE BUFFERS.
IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A HOUSE ON IT, I'M SURE AN ANIMAL USES IT,
AND ACTUALLY, A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THE ANIMALS LOVE TO USE
TOO, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WOULD WORK IS
THAT THEY GET TO KIND OF CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS LONG
AS THEY WANT TO DO IT, AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY IF
THEY COULD FIND SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BUY IT AND CONTINUE DOING
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE THAT BUFFER FOR OUR
PROPERTY.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THAT ACTUALLY LARGELY ANSWERED MY
QUESTION, BUT MAYBE JUST TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO IT BECAUSE
I WAS UNAWARE THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY ACQUIRING ANY WORKING
AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES IN THIS.
ANY TIME THAT HAPPENS, THAT PROPERTY IS STILL, GENERALLY
SPEAKING, STAYING WITHIN -- IT CONTINUES TO BE AGRICULTURALLY
PRODUCTIVE.
SO REALLY, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING ELAPP TO ACQUIRE, FOR
LACK OF A BETTER WORD, PROPERTY THAT IS A RANCH OR A FARM, SOME
KIND OF A WORKING AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY, IT'S BEING DONE THROUGH
THAT LESS-THAN FEE PROCESS?
>> CORRECT.
YES.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: AND TO CLARIFY FROM COMMISSIONER GREEN'S
QUESTION, IT'S A CONSERVATION EASEMENT AS OPPOSED TO A PRESERVATION
EASEMENT?
>> CORRECT.
YES, IT WOULD BE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: COMMISSIONER AGLIANO.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS AT, BUT I
REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO WORKING WITH EPC, LOOKING AT ELAPP
PROPERTY.
YEARS AGO -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE IT IN PLACE --
THERE WAS CARBON CREDITS, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THIS COULD BE CASHED
IN SOMEHOW OR VALUED AT THE EXCHANGE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE OR NOT, BUT WE
WERE LOOKING AT IT, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE HERE THIS MANY
ACRES OF PROTECTED ENVIRONMENT, NOTHING WILL EVER BE BUILT, AND I
BELIEVE IT CORRELATES WITH THE TERM "DEFORESTATION."
HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN CASH IN ON SOME OF
THAT?
>> I ACTUALLY JUST HAD A MEETING ON THAT LAST WEEK.
[LAUGHTER]
AND WHEN EPC DID IT --
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: AND I REMEMBER WORKING IT BECAUSE I
WAS AT THE UTILITY COMPANY AT THE TIME.
I THOUGHT YOU NEED TO CASH IN ON THIS.
>> THE EPC BROUGHT US IN THE LAST MINUTE EVEN THOUGH THEY
WERE USING OUR SITES FOR CARBON CREDITS, AND THE ONLY CONCERN WE
HAD ON THE CARBON BANKING WAS THE FACT THAT THE WAY IT WAS BEING
WRITTEN WAS ALL OF OUR OPEN SPACES WERE GOING TO BE SLAM PACKED
WITH PINE PLANTATIONS, AND PINE PLANTATIONS DO NOT CREATE VALUABLE
HABITAT OR CORRIDORS, SO WORKING WITH EPC IN THEIR PLAN, WE
ACTUALLY HAD TO SAY IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON AN ELAPP SITE, NOT ONLY
DO THEY HAVE TO PLANT TREES, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO PUT IN THE
ESSENTIAL SHRUBS AND GROUND LAYER THAT GOES WITH THAT.
THE MEETING I HAD LAST WEEK, WE WERE APPROACHED WITH THE SAME
THING, AND THE DIFFERENCE WAS -- AND THEY -- I THINK THEY SAID THE
CHICAGO EXCHANGE WENT DEFUNCT AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING IN CALIFORNIA,
BUT THEY WANT RIPARIAN HARDWOOD ECOSYSTEMS FOR CARBON SEQUESTRATION
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST LEAF, THEY TAKE IN THE MOST
CARBON, AND WE DON'T CUT THEM DOWN, SO WE -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
WE ARE LOOKING INTO RIGHT NOW.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: YEAH.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WITH THE DEFORESTATION, PART OF
THAT WAS, HEY, NOTHING WILL EVER BE BUILT, OKAY, SO THAT WAS A
GUARANTEE, BECAUSE I REMEMBER EVEN AT THE TIME WORKING WITH TAMPA
ELECTRIC SAYING WHY AREN'T WE KIND OF TRYING TO SUMMARIZE OUR
TRANSMISSION CORRIDORS, NOTHING WILL EVER BE BUILT THERE?
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME VALUE IN THAT SOMEWHERE, SO ...
>> RIGHT.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>>MITCH THROWER: I KNOW YOU HAD SOME ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT BRINGING YOU BACK TO ANOTHER BOARD
MEETING.
>> SURE.
>>MITCH THROWER: OR MAYBE ONE OF OUR WORKSHOPS.
>> SURE.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I'LL SHOW YOU GUYS HOW WE MANAGE EVERYTHING AND WHY WE'RE DOING
IT.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>>MITCH THROWER: THANK YOU.
NEXT UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, TEMPLE TERRACE: BRIEFING ON
TEMPLE TERRACE PLAN AMENDMENT, TEMPLE TERRACE CPA 14-01, TONY
LaCOLLA.
WELCOME.
>>TONY LaCOLLA: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
TONY LaCOLLA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE PRESENTATION'S BROUGHT UP ON THE SCREEN.
I'M HERE TO DO A BRIEFING ON TEMPLE TERRACE PLAN AMENDMENT
14-01.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LAND USE PLAN MAP.
IT IS LOCATED IN NORTHWEST TEMPLE TERRACE.
THE APPLICANT IS A PRIVATELY -- A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL.
THIS IS FOR A SMALL-SCALE PLAN AMENDMENT ON 2.55 ACRES, LOCATED
ON NORTH 51st STREET.
THE REQUEST IS FROM A RESIDENTIAL-9 CATEGORY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW
FOR ABOUT 22 DWELLING UNITS, TO THE RESIDENTIAL-18 CATEGORY,
ALLOWING UP TO 45 DWELLING UNITS.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AREA.
THIS IS 51st STREET RIGHT HERE.
IT'S A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
YOU HAVE FOWLER AVENUE TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS A MAJOR CORRIDOR;
THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, A MAJOR GROWING UNIVERSITY TO THE
WEST; AND THEN YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTION OF 56th STREET AND FOWLER
AVENUE, WHICH IS A MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTER FOR THE CITY OF TEMPLE
TERRACE.
THE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE IS MADE UP OF FOUR PARCELS.
THREE OF THOSE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND ONE OF THOSE PARCELS
IS VACANT.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED, BUT THERE IS
A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 9th, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE
INFORMATION, YOU CAN VISIT PLANHILLSBOROUGH.ORG.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
>>MITCH THROWER: LET ME FIRST ASK, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE
PUBLIC?
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
OKAY.
NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
>>TONY LaCOLLA: ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 IS THE BRIEFING ON
PLANT CITY PLAN AMENDMENTS, PC/CPA 14-02 AND PC/CPA 14-03, JAY
COLLINS.
>>JAY COLLINS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, JAY COLLINS, PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
STAFF IS HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEFING FOR PLANT
CITY.
THERE ARE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT ARE THE DECEMBER CYCLE, CPA 14-02,
EAST BAKER STREET, AND CPA 14-03, COUNTY LINE ROAD.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL AMENDMENTS, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK
AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE WILL BE GOING FOR THE DECEMBER CYCLE.
WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING, OR THIS AFTERNOON, FEBRUARY THE
9th.
MARCH THE 9th WE WILL BE BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF
THIS BODY.
MARCH THE 12th IN THE MORNING WE'LL BE IN PLANT CITY FOR ITS
PLANNING BOARD, APRIL THE 13th WE WILL BE IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THEN SUMMER OF 2015 WE'LL BE BACK FOR CPA
10 -- OR EXCUSE ME-CPA 14-03, WHICH IS A REGULAR MAP AMENDMENT.
WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
ONE IS SMALL-SCALE AND ONE IS REGULAR.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.
THIS IS 14-02.
AGAIN, THIS IS PRIVATELY INITIATED, IT'S SMALL-SCALE, JUST UNDER
THREE ACRES, GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL-12 TO COMMERCIAL.
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT HERE ALONG BAKER STREET, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW
THE CURSOR, RUNNING INTO U.S. 92.
THE NORTH-SOUTH ROAD IS PARK, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE -- THIS AREA
HERE -- IF YOU CAN FOLLOW MY CURSOR -- IS UNINCORPORATED
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THE CHANGE HERE WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL USES TO GO INTO THAT AREA
TODAY.
THE RESIDENTIAL-12 DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
THE NEXT AMENDMENT, REGULAR-SCALED MAP AMENDMENT, JUST OVER TEN
ACRES.
THIS IS LOCATED ALONG COUNTY LINE ROAD.
IF YOU FOLLOW MY CURSOR, MY RIGHT, YOUR LEFT, THE VERY END OF
THIS AERIAL IS COUNTY LINE ROAD.
THIS IS PRETTY FAR SOUTH.
THIS IS AN ANNEXATION.
IF WE GO A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH, YOU'LL SEE RICE ROAD, FANCY
FARMS, AND THIS IS THE CORONET PROPERTY IN UNINCORPORATED
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THIS IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL-1.
IT'S GOING TO AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY IN THE CITY OF
PLANT CITY.
MUCH OF THE PROPERTY ALONG COUNTY LINE ROAD FOR PLANT CITY IS
CURRENTLY INDUSTRIAL.
THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE IS SOME LAND USE ASSEMBLAGE THAT IS
GOING ON OUT THERE, AND THERE IS A LARGE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE
DISTRIBUTION SITE THAT MAY BE GOING IN ALONG COUNTY LINE ROAD.
NEXT STEPS HERE, AGAIN, THIS IS A BRIEFING.
THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED.
WE'LL BE BACK MARCH 9th, AND AS ALWAYS, YOU CAN GO TO OUR
WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE INFORMATION WE JUST PROVIDED YOU, ALL OF
THE MAPS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET, AS WELL AS A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE
THE HEARINGS, ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL
BE ON THAT WEBSITE.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND THIS CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: I JUST HAD ONE.
JAY --
>>MITCH THROWER: COMMISSIONER AGLIANO.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: -- JUST HELP ME OUT ON SOMETHING.
>>JAY COLLINS: YES, MA'AM.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: LOOKING AT THE MAPS -- BECAUSE I'M A
VERY VISUAL PERSON, SO -- AND I GET IT, I GET WHERE THESE ARE
GOING.
ON THE ADOPTED FOR THE FIRST PARCEL, I LOOK AT THE ADOPTED, AND
IT'S RESIDENTIAL-12, AND OBVIOUSLY SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T -- NO
LONGER FITS THE CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL-12.
I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW FAR IN ADVANCE IS THAT
DONE?
THIS WAS ADOPTED IN '13, AND WE'RE ALREADY SAYING A YEAR LATER
IT NO LONGER MEETS THE RESIDENTIAL-12, REALLY GUIDE -- OR NOT
GUIDELINES BUT REALLY DOES NOT MEET THE RESIDENTIAL-12
CLASSIFICATION, SO PROPOSING THE NEW ONE FROM COMMERCIAL -- I'M
JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF -- IF I SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS
ADOPTED, HAS BEEN IN PLACE '13, AND THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER,
WHICH IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I'M TRYING -- WHAT IS THE SENSING OF THAT
TIMING, YOU KNOW?
>>JAY COLLINS: THESE TWO MAPS, THEY MAY BE A LITTLE
CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY BOTH SAY ADOPTED 2025 FUTURE LAND USE.
THE SECOND MAP IS THE PROPOSED FOR IT.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: RIGHT.
RIGHT.
>>JAY COLLINS: SO ARE YOU ASKING, THOUGH, WHEN THAT BECAME
RESIDENTIAL-12?
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: YEAH, BECAUSE --
>>JAY COLLINS: IT'S BEEN RESIDENTIAL-12 SINCE THE PLAN WAS
IN EFFECT BACK IN THE '80s, SINCE THIS FIRST CAME IN, AND NOW THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY IS INTERESTED IN GOING AHEAD AND
CHANGING IT TO COMMERCIAL.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PLANT CITY -- NOT TO GO INTO IT TOO
MUCH, BUT THERE IS A CAR DEALERSHIP THAT IS JUST THERE TO THE EAST
AT BAKER AND PARK, AND THAT'S THE IDEA HERE IS THAT CAR DEALERSHIP
IS LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING ITS FOOTPRINT.
SO IT NEEDS THAT COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION TO ALLOW THAT
COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TO EXPAND.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: OKAY.
>>JAY COLLINS: I MIGHT HAVE CONFUSED YOU MORE THAN I
HELPED.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF IT WAS
ADOPTED FOR 2025, I'M HOPING SOMETHING IN 1980s HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED
FOR 2025, SO I'M TRYING TO GET A GIST OF --
>>JAY COLLINS: OH, NO, MA'AM.
NO, MA'AM.
IN THE '80s, AGAIN, THESE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING
HORIZONS, SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN THE COMING WEEKS AND
MONTHS, OUR NEW MAPS FOR THE NEW UPDATES THAT ARE COMING ARE GOING
TO SAY 2040 ON THEM BECAUSE THIS IS A DOCUMENT LOOKING OUT TO THE
FUTURE FOR 2025, AND THE NEW DOCUMENTS WILL HAVE 2040 ON IT, SO
IT'S ALWAYS THAT LOOKING OUT TO THE FUTURE.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: I THINK WHAT YOU SAID ANSWERED MY
QUESTION, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE
PROPERTY HAS ANY FRONTAGE, ROAD FRONTAGE.
>>JAY COLLINS: YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
THIS ACTUAL -- AS WE DO THIS QUITE OFTEN, WHEN THERE IS A SPLIT
LAND USE -- THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS.
WHEN WE HAVE A SPLIT LAND, THE FRONT ON BAKER STREET IS ALREADY
COMMERCIAL IN LAND USE DESIGNATION AND IS THE PARENT PARCEL.
SO WE HAVE 2.59 ACRES THAT IS BEING CHANGED, BUT THE ENTIRE
PARCEL IS OVER THREE ACRES; HOWEVER, THE ONLY THING WE'RE CHANGING
IS THE RESIDENTIAL-12, BUT THANK YOU, VERY ASTUTE.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THAT ACTUALLY BECAME A QUESTION, THEN,
IS THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE ACCESS, NOT JUST THROUGH THE EXISTING
FORD DEALERSHIP SITE BUT FROM THE FRONTAGE AS WELL BECAUSE THOSE
PARCELS WOULD THEN BE CONNECTED?
>>JAY COLLINS: THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE'S CURB CUTS AND EVERYTHING.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: PERFECT.
UNDERSTOOD.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
COMMISSIONER GREEN.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: THAT WAS MY QUESTION ALSO.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
>>JAY COLLINS: THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 6, CPA 15-02, RANDY
KRANJEC.
NO, NOT RANDY.
[LAUGHTER]
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>>KRISTA KELLY: HI.
KRISTA KELLY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M PRESENTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 15-01, BRUCE B.
DOWNS BOULEVARD AND OAK PRESERVE BOULEVARD.
THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PRIVATELY INITIATED.
THE PROPERTY'S ON THE NORTHERN -- MOST NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE
COUNTY, ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY LINE.
THE SITE'S IN THE TAMPA SERVICE AREA OF THE URBAN SERVICE
AREA.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE TAMPA CITY LIMITS TO THE WEST AND IS 23.5
ACRES IN SIZE.
THE SITE IS VACANT AT THE TIME.
THE SURROUNDING AREA CONSISTS TO THE NORTH OF RETAIL AND
MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL TO THE EAST, RESIDENTIAL TO THE
WEST, PUBLIC SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH, AND RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL TO THE
SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED
USE-4 TO RESIDENTIAL-6.
THE IMPACTS OF THIS CHANGE GENERALLY WOULD INCREASE THE
ALLOWABLE DENSITY FROM FOUR UNITS PER GROSS ACRE TO SIX UNITS PER
GROSS ACRE, ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR MIXED-USE PROJECTS, AND
INCREASE THE NONRESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 110,000 TO
175,000.
WE'VE DISTRIBUTED FOR AGENCY REVIEW, RECEIVED NO OBJECTIONS, AND
THERE'S NO ACTION AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
>>MITCH THROWER: QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
[INAUDIBLE]
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: [OFF MICROPHONE]
>>KRISTA KELLY: THE FIRST SLIDE?
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: YES, THAT ONE.
IT SAYS ELIMINATES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MIXED-USE PROJECTS.
IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED-USE -- I'M SORRY, GOES TO
RESIDENTIAL-6.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
SO IT TAKES AWAY THAT REQUIREMENT FOR MIXED-USE ALTOGETHER?
>>KRISTA KELLY: EXACTLY.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY, GOOD.
THANK YOU.
>>KRISTA KELLY: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>>MITCH THROWER: NEXT WE HAVE CPA 15-02, RANDY
KRANJEC.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.
RANDY KRANJEC, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ALL RIGHT.
15-02.
IT'S A PRIVATELY INITIATED PLAN AMENDMENT.
IT'S UP ON GERACI ROAD AND DALE MABRY, UP IN THE LUTZ PLANNING
AREA.
GERACI ROAD RUNS JUST WEST OF DALE MABRY, AND IT'S SOUTH OF LUTZ
LAKE FERN.
EXISTING AND SURROUNDING LAND USES, YOU CAN SEE ON AN AERIAL
HERE IT'S PRIMARILY SOME SUBDIVISION-SCALE SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENCES.
THERE IS VACANT LAND AND THERE IS LIMITED AGRICULTURAL AS WELL,
AND THEN OVER TO THE WEST, AS WE GET TO THE WEST, YOU'RE INTO -- I
BELIEVE THAT'S CHEVAL, THE CHEVAL DEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S A PHOTO OF GERACI ROAD.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE HERE IS LOOKING TO THE WEST FROM DALE MABRY,
AND, AGAIN, AT THE FAR END OF GERACI ROAD.
THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE ON THE 76.9-ACRE SUBJECT PARCELS IS
RESIDENTIAL-1, ONE UNIT PER ACRE, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING
RESIDENTIAL-4, FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS SITE DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL, SO
BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A DENSITY INCREASE.
IT IS IN THE -- YOU SEE A POTENTIAL DENSITY INCREASE OF 307
UNITS -- OR, I'M SORRY -- UP TO -- WITH FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER
ACRE, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM, 307 UNITS POSSIBLE.
IT'S A CHANGE IN SCALE FROM MORE OR LESS RURAL TO SUBURBAN.
IT IS, HOWEVER, IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA AND IN THE LUTZ
COMMUNITY PLAN AREA AND -- WHICH RECOGNIZES PROPERTIES WEST OF DALE
MABRY AS A BIT MORE SUBURBAN IN NATURE AS OPPOSED TO PROPERTIES
EAST OF DALE MABRY IN WHAT WE CONSIDER THE MORE TRADITIONAL OLD
LUTZ.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO OBJECTIONS FROM THOSE AGENCIES THAT HAVE
REVIEWED THIS REQUEST TO DATE, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS
AMENDMENT WILL BE ON MARCH 9th.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>>MITCH THROWER: PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: I WAS JUST CURIOUS, ON THE AERIAL FOR
EXAMPLE, THE MAIN GROUPING OF PARCELS THAT ARE ON THAT HAS A SINGLE
PARCEL, THEN, TO THE EAST.
THE PARCEL THAT'S IN BETWEEN THOSE, IS THAT UNDER THE SAME --
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP?
>>RANDY KRANJEC: THE PARCEL BETWEEN THE TWO PINK DASH
LINES?
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: YES, THE ONE THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: OH, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARCEL
RIGHT HERE?
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: CORRECT.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: OKAY.
AND IF I'M -- IS IT UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF THESE FOLKS, OF THIS
APPLICANT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OR --
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: YEAH.
AND THE REAL QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IF A CHANGE IS MADE HERE,
THE IMPACT ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE SURROUNDED
BY THIS CHANGE.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: YEAH.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT IS NOT OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
WE --
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: IT JUST STRUCK ME AS A LITTLE BIT
STRANGE THAT THERE'S, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO DESCRIBE IT -- I
KNOW THERE'S TWO PARCELS HERE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO PARCELS,
ONE ASSEMBLAGE AND PARCEL TO THE WEST, WITH THAT SORT OF -- WITH
THE ONE TO THE WEST BEING THIS KIND OF ISLAND OUT THERE?
>>RANDY KRANJEC: MELISSA, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T ENLARGE THE STUDY AREA, DO WE, WITH PRIVATELY
INITIATED?
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: CERTAINLY NOT WITHOUT GOING OUT AND
TALKING TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: RIGHT.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES
IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.
IT'S BEEN SOME YEARS SINCE WE HAVE, BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
PROPERTY -- THERE'S AN AMENDMENT ALONG MEMORIAL HIGHWAY THAT KRISTA
MANAGED IN THE LAST YEAR, WHERE THEN WE WENT BACK OUT AND DID MORE
OUTREACH.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: RIGHT.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: AND ENDED UP BRINGING IN SOME
ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES, BUT, YEAH, THAT --
>>RANDY KRANJEC: YEAH.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: IF THE PRIVATE APPLICANT WANTS TO
MAINTAIN THE TIMING THAT THEY'RE IN FOR THE CYCLE OF PLAN
AMENDMENTS, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR US TO DO THAT.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: UNDERSTOOD.
OKAY.
>>RANDY KRANJEC: AND I JUST WANTED TO INDICATE THAT THE
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE, SO ...
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
COMMISSIONER GREEN.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: COMMISSIONER, I HAD A SIMILAR
QUESTION, BUT THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, RANDY; IS THAT
CORRECT?
>>RANDY KRANJEC: THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, BUT THEY'RE
IN -- UNDER THE SAME APPLICANT.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: SAME OWNERSHIP.
OKAY.
FINE.
IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE --
>>MITCH THROWER: YEAH, THEY CAN COME UP IF THEY'D LIKE TO
SPEAK.
I DID ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT, YEAH, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY CAN COME UP.
THEY'RE WELCOME TO.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
MORRIS MASSEY, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, REPRESENTING PULTE
HOMES, WHOM IS THE APPLICANT WITH THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED
AMENDMENT.
QUITE FRANKLY, WE'VE TRIED TO ASSEMBLE AS MANY PARCELS AS WE
COULD FOR THE AMENDMENT, BUT THERE WERE CERTAIN PARCELS' OWNERS
THAT WERE NOT WILLING TO AGREE TO BE INCLUDED, AND SIMPLY THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHY THE APPLICATION IS THE WAY IT IS.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
NEXT UP IS CPA 15-03.
WELCOME.
>>PEDRO PARRA: GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
PEDRO PARRA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I AM HERE TO PRESENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 15-03, U.S.
HIGHWAY 301 AND GIBSONTON DRIVE AND BOYETTE ROAD.
THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED PLAN AMENDMENT.
IT'S LOCATED IN SOUTH CENTRAL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF 301.
HERE'S 301.
AND IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF 301 AND
GIBSONTON, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 301 AND BOYETTE ROAD, WHICH
IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 301.
IT'S COMPRISED OF APPROXIMATELY 31.89 ACRES.
IT IS WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA, AND IT FALLS WITHIN THE
BOUNDARY OF THE RIVERVIEW COMMUNITY PLAN BOUNDARY.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP, WHICH REPRESENTS EXISTING USES, THE
SITE ITSELF, BY THE COLOR REPRESENTED ON THE MAP, THE LIGHT GRAY IS
VACANT, THE LIGHT GREEN IS AGRICULTURAL, THE TAN IS AN EXISTING
MOBILE HOME PARK, AND THE YELLOW ARE SINGLE-FAMILY.
AND, AGAIN, IN THIS AREA YOU DO SEE A PARCEL, THERE'S
SINGLE-FAMILY THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICANT DID APPROACH THEM TO SEE IF THEY WANTED TO SELL,
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SELL WHEN THEY CAME IN AND APPLIED FOR THE
APPLICATION.
IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE SITE IN TERMS OF THE OTHER EXISTING USES,
AGAIN, THE LIGHT TAN IS A MOBILE HOME PARK, THE PINK IS LIGHT
COMMERCIAL, THE GRAY, AGAIN, IS VACANT, THE YELLOW ARE
SINGLE-FAMILY USES -- YOU CAN SEE THEM SCATTERED AROUND -- AND THEN
THE DARK BLUE ARE PUBLIC-QUASI PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.
THE LIGHT BLUE IS PUBLIC AND UTILITIES.
YOU SEE ONE, I THINK, HERE.
AND THEN THE DARK PURPLE ARE EDUCATIONAL, AND THE BROWN IS
MULTIFAMILY.
AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE
PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT EXISTS AROUND IT.
YOU CAN SEE THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE
SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE LAND IS VACANT ON THE
WEST SIDE OF 301, AND YOU CAN SEE ALONG GIBSONTON DRIVE AND BOYETTE
ROAD AND SOUTH OF THIS INTERSECTION, THIS IS A LIGHT COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND OUT THERE, WE
DID TAKE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS -- IF YOU'RE ON 301 AND YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH ON THE EAST
SIDE OF 301, THIS IS THE MOBILE HOME PARK THAT'S THE NORTHERN PART
OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK NORTH TOWARDS THE
INTERSECTION OF 301, TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION OF GIBSONTON DRIVE
AND BOYETTE ROAD, AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF 301, WHICH IS HERE, THIS
IS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING BUILT ON THE
SITE, SO THIS IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH.
THEN THE ORANGE ARROW KEY, AGAIN, IS THE SITE ITSELF THAT'S ON
THE SOUTH SIDE.
THIS IS FROM THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE ON 301, ON THE EAST
SIDE LOOKING NORTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE VACANT PARCELS, AND
THEN IF YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD A LITTLE BIT AND YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE
CENTER, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S VACANT AND AGRICULTURAL USES.
ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, IF YOU LOOK SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE OF 301
-- HERE'S 301 -- AND YOU LOOK SOUTH OF THE SITE, THIS IS EXISTING
COMMERCIAL, IT'S A DOLLAR GENERAL STORE.
THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE, AGAIN, FOR THE SITE IS
RESIDENTIAL-6 IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN THE BRIGHT YELLOW YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL-6.
THERE IS IN LIGHT PINK SUBURBAN MIXED USE-6.
THE RED IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL-20.
AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME NATURAL PRESERVATION, YOU HAVE COMMUNITY
MIXED USE-6 THAT'S NORTH OF BOYETTE ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF 301,
AND PUBLIC-QUASI PUBLIC IN THE DARKER BLUE.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THIS SITE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL-6
TO THE RESIDENTIAL-12.
THE IMPACT OF CHANGE WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY, OF COURSE, FROM SIX DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE -- RIGHT
NOW YOU COULD GET UP TO 191 UNITS, GOING TO THE RESIDENTIAL-12, YOU
WOULD GET -- YOU COULD HAVE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 382 UNITS.
THE CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT SCALE FOR THE AREA WOULD GO FROM
SUBURBAN TO URBAN.
IT WOULD INCREASE THE F.A.R. FROM A MAXIMUM OF .25 TO A MAXIMUM
OF .35.
THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE RESIDENTIAL-12 TO ALLOW FOR A .5 FOR
OFFICE, MULTIPURPOSE, AND MIXED-USE PROJECTS; HOWEVER, AGAIN, THIS
SITE DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA, SO IT WOULD BE CONFINED TO
THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED -- AT THE TIME OF MAILING, WE HAD RECEIVED FIVE
AGENCY RESPONSES, BUT THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO DATE, AND THIS
ITEM IS FOR YOUR INFORMATION ONLY, AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR
A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RECOMMENDATION ON MARCH 9th.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TRY AND ANSWER THEM OR BRING
THE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM?
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: YES.
>>MITCH THROWER: COMMISSIONER GREEN.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: PEDRO, THIS PROPERTY IS BOUNDED ON
THREE SIDES BY ROADS, IS THAT CORRECT, 301 ON THE WEST, WHITT ROAD
ON THE NORTH, AND IS THERE ANOTHER ROAD TO THE SOUTH?
>>PEDRO PARRA: THERE IS A LOCAL ROAD ON THE SOUTH
SIDE.
IT DOES DEAD-END.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY.
AND IN ONE OF YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU SHOWED, I GUESS FOR A LACK
OF A BETTER WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, SORT OF A FRONTAGE ROAD IN FRONT OF
THE -- YES, THAT.
>>PEDRO PARRA: YEAH, RIGHT HERE THERE IS A FRONTAGE
ROAD.
AGAIN, IT GOES INTO KIND OF A DEAD-END PATTERN, LOOKS LIKE A
"Y," AND THERE ARE MOBILE HOMES BOTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND
THEN AT THE END OF THAT ROADWAY.
THERE ARE SOME REALLY SMALL SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS ON THE END OF
THAT ROADWAY AS WELL.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE,
COMMISSIONER, ON THE LEFT THERE IS THE NEW MULTIUSE TRAIL THAT WAS
PUT IN WHEN U.S. 301 WAS WIDENED.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: YES.
>>PEDRO PARRA: THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: SO THERE IS NO DIRECT ACCESS ONTO
301 FROM ANY OF THESE PARCELS?
>>PEDRO PARRA: THIS PARCEL WOULD HAVE ACCESS ONTO 301.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: DIRECTLY ON TO IT OR VIA THE ROAD
TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH?
>>PEDRO PARRA: I BELIEVE THERE -- I CAN CHECK TO MAKE
SURE, BUT I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED -- THEY CURRENTLY HAVE
AN ACCESS IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY.
>>PEDRO PARRA: BUT THEY MAY HAVE OTHER ACCESSES TOO.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
>>PEDRO PARRA: BUT I WILL LOOK AT THAT.
>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: JUST ONE.
PEDRO, I HAD GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE AGENCY COMMENTS AND
WAS CONFUSED ON THE ONE ON TRANSPORTATION, AND PROBABLY IT'S JUST
SOME INADVERTENT COMMENT THAT GOT STUCK IN THERE.
I DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME HERE.
>>PEDRO PARRA: WE HAD AN E-MAIL FROM TRANSPORTATION WITH
THE COUNTY.
THEY RETRACTED THE ONE THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY
REPLACED IT BECAUSE IT HAD A STATEMENT THAT DIDN'T --
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: MENTIONING DALE MABRY?
>>PEDRO PARRA: YES.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK
ABOUT.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CPA 15-04.
PEDRO.
>>PEDRO PARRA: OKAY.
PEDRO PARRA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS ITEM IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 15-04.
IT'S WILLIAMS ROAD AND LYNN ROAD.
THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED PLAN AMENDMENT.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE -- IT'S LOCATED IN NORTHWEST HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
IT'S AT THE CORNER OF WILLIAMS ROAD AND LYNN ROAD.
IT IS COMPRISED OF APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES.
IT'S WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY AND ALSO WITHIN THE
GREATER CARROLLWOOD-NORTHDALE COMMUNITY PLAN BOUNDARY.
OKAY.
WE HAVE ANDERSON ROAD, LINEBAUGH, NIXON, AND THEN THE PLAN
AMENDMENT ITSELF IS BORDERED ON THE NORTH BY LYNN ROAD AND ON THE
WEST SIDE BY WILLIAMS ROAD.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS AN EXISTING MAP.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLORS AGAIN, THE YELLOW ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
USES.
YOU'LL SEE BLUE ARE THE PUBLIC-QUASI PUBLIC USES IN THE AREA,
THE LIGHT GRAY ARE VACANT PROPERTIES, THE MEDIUM GRAY ARE LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL USES, THE DARK GRAYS ARE HEAVY COMMERCIAL -- HEAVY --
I'M SORRY -- ARE HIGH INDUSTRIAL, THE RED ARE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, AND
THE PURPLE ARE EDUCATIONAL.
SO IF WE GO TO THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
AROUND THE SITE, AND, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT.
IN THIS AREA, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS SCATTERED DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN IN HERE IS SINGLE-FAMILY AND MOBILE HOME, AND THEN IT
BECOMES MORE VACANT AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS ANDERSON ROAD.
THERE IS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION NORTH OF THE SITE, AGAIN,
LINEBAUGH.
ALONG LINEBAUGH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE YOU'RE SEEING MORE INDUSTRIAL
USES.
JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, THIS IS THE
INTERSECTION OF LYNN ROAD AND WILLIAMS ROAD.
AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS THE SITE OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
RIGHT NOW ON-SITE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE ARE MOBILE HOME
UNITS.
IF YOU COME BACK TO THE INTERSECTION OF LYNN ROAD AND WILLIAMS
ROAD AND LOOK SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE
PLAN AMENDMENT AREA IS.
IF YOU GO DOWN WILLIAMS ROAD AND LOOK NORTH, AGAIN, ON THE EAST
SIDE OF THE ROAD YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A SINGLE-FAMILY IN THE
SOUTHERN END OF IT ALONG WILLIAMS ROAD, AND YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH
BACK TOWARDS THE MOBILE HOMES.
AGAIN, IT'S ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LYNN ROAD AND WILLIAMS
ROAD.
THIS IS WHAT EXISTS.
IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING ON THE SOUTH END, LOOKING SOUTH
FROM THE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE.
AGAIN, ALONG WILLIAMS ROAD.
IF YOU GO BACK UP TO LYNN ROAD AND WILLIAMS ROAD AND YOU LOOK
ACROSS THE STREET, THIS IS THE RELIGIOUS SITE.
IF YOU COME BACK OUT AND LOOK EAST FROM ANDERSON ROAD ALONG LYNN
ROAD, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE RELIGIOUS SITE AND THEN OPPOSITE IT IS
APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE IS.
THEN IF YOU GO OUT TO NIXON AND YOU LOOK WEST TOWARDS ANDERSON
ROAD AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG THE ROADWAY
WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE APPROXIMATELY HERE.
THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL-4.
YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL-4 THAT SURROUNDS IT.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBURBAN MIXED USE-6 THAT RUNS SOUTH.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL-9 AT ANDERSON ROAD AND LYNN ROAD ON BOTH
SIDES, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME PUBLIC-QUASI PUBLIC USE, AND THEN THE
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PLAN CATEGORY IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LYNN -- OF
LINEBAUGH.
THE PROPOSED CHANGE ON THIS SITE WOULD GO -- WOULD, AGAIN,
CHANGE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL-4 TO A RESIDENTIAL-12 PLAN
CATEGORY.
THE IMPACT OF CHANGE, AGAIN, WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE
RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES IN THIS AREA FROM FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER
ACRE, IT WOULD ALLOW CURRENTLY UP TO SIX UNITS GOING TO THE
RESIDENTIAL-12, IT WOULD ALLOW APPROXIMATELY 20 UNITS AT A
MAXIMUM.
THE CHANGE IN SCALE -- THE DEVELOPMENT SCALE WOULD GO FROM
SUBURBAN TO URBAN.
THE INCREASE IN F.A.R. WOULD BE FOR A MAXIMUM OF .25 TO A
MAXIMUM OF .35.
AGAIN, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW .5 FOR OFFICE,
MULTIPURPOSE, AND MIXED-USE, BUT, AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT MEET THE
LOCATIONAL CRITERIA, AND IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE NONRESIDENTIAL
USES.
AGAIN, WE HAD FOUR COMMENTS AT THE TIME WE SENT THIS TO YOU FOR
THE WORKSHOP, AND THERE'S BEEN NO OBJECTIONS NOTED TO DATE.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ON MARCH 9 FOR A RECOMMENDATION PUBLIC
HEARING.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
COMMISSIONER AGLIANO.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE LAST TWO,
JUST IN GENERAL, MELISSA, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP.
I KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MAPS -- IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE
EXISTING, BUT WE ALL KNOW EVERYBODY COMES HERE AND SAYS, IT USED TO
BE THAT.
WE GO, IT USED TO BE, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE BECAUSE OF WHAT USED TO
BE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THIS DREAM HERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, ON
THE LAST TWO YOU'VE GOT ADOPTED 2/25, AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE COMES
THIS RESIDENTIAL '12, AND HOW DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT?
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE A GLIMPSE OF, LOOK, YOU'RE LOOKING
AT 2025, HOW DO WE GET A GLIMPSE OF 2040?
YOU KNOW, WILL THAT HELP?
WHAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING HERE, OKAY.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: SURE.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT MAYBE THAT IS
GOING TO BE THE TRANSITION, BUT AS I SEE IT NOW, LIKE MY NEPHEW
WOULD SAY, EVIL KNIEVEL COULDN'T MAKE THAT JUMP, SO HOW DO I FEEL
GOOD TO TRY TO GET THERE?
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: WELL, YES.
THE MAPS ARE WHAT IS ADOPTED FOR 2025.
AT THE TIME WE WERE ACCOMMODATING THAT LEVEL OF POPULATION.
CERTAINLY, IF WE SEE THAT -- TO ACCOMMODATE THE POPULATION TO
2040, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING SOME CHANGES IN THAT AREA, WE WOULD
LET YOU KNOW.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: OKAY.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: THESE AREAS ARE NOT ONES THAT WE HAD
IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFIED.
THAT BEING SAID, THE ONE ALONG U.S. 301, WE HAVE HAD AN EMPHASIS
IN OUR 2040 PLAN ON OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS IN INCREASING DENSITY, AND
WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ALL OF THE MAP CHANGES THAT
WE HAD PLANNED TO AS PART OF THAT UPDATE OR HAD HOPED TO.
WE -- SOME ADDITIONAL PHASES OF MAP CHANGES.
SO WHEN THEY CAME IN WITH THAT ONE, MAYBE -- WE DIDN'T HAVE AS
MUCH HEARTBURN PERHAPS BECAUSE IT WAS IN LINE WITH SORT OF THE
DIRECTION WE WERE LOOKING AT INCREASING DENSITY ALONG MAJOR
CORRIDORS.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: JUST A THOUGHT GOING --
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: JUST BECAUSE -- JUST BECAUSE -- ALL OF
THESE ARE PRIVATELY INITIATED, AND JUST BECAUSE WE THINK THROUGH
2025 THIS ISN'T A LOCATION TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH MAY NOT BE THAT A
PRIVATE APPLICANT DOESN'T THINK THAT THIS IS A PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE
SOME OF THAT GROWTH, SO THAT'S WHY --
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE YET WITH
YOUR FULL RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT
MAY CALL THAT IT CAN MAKE THAT LEAP BECAUSE WE THOUGH THESE THINGS
IN 2040.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: RIGHT.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: SO THAT MIGHT HELP IF THOSE CAN BE
ADDITIONAL --
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: ABSOLUTELY.
WE CAN BRING THAT IN AND SOME OF THAT DIRECTION.
IT IS AN AWKWARD TIME RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE PROCESSING
AMENDMENTS TO THE OVERALL PLAN AS WELL AS AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY ADOPTED,
SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT WHAT WOULD THE 2040 PLAN BE SAYING
ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
>>STEPHANIE AGLIANO: I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME,
DON'T TELL ME WHAT'S THERE, WE ALL KNOW WE WOULD [INAUDIBLE]
GOING ON.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: SURE.
>>PEDRO PARRA: AS AN ADDED COMMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ON 301, YOU CAN SEE A PATTERN OF ALREADY
INTENSIFICATION HAPPENING ALONG THAT ROADWAY, SO EVEN LOOKING AT
THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE, THERE ARE ALREADY SOME OC -- OFFICE
COMMERCIAL-20s OR COMMERCIAL MIXED USE.
THAT TELLS ME THERE'S ALREADY A PATTERN DEVELOPING FOR THE
FUTURE.
WE -- DEFINITELY THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR STAFF REPORT IS THIS
ISN'T A COMPLETE BREAK OR NONCOMPATIBILITY BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE
COMPATIBILITY WITH THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 7, COUNTY IMAGINE 2040 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
>>KRISTA KELLY: THANK YOU.
KRISTA KELLY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I'M PRESENTING TODAY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 14-09-P.
THIS IS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE DEFINITION SECTION OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE ARE THREE REASONS THAT WE'RE UPDATING THIS SECTION.
THE FIRST IS TO CLARIFY THE MEANINGS OF THE TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN
SUBJECT TO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OVER TIME, TO MAKE THOSE MORE
CLEAR; TO PROVIDE -- TO INTRODUCE NEW TERMINOLOGY AS A RESULT OF
NEW POLICIES BEING PROPOSED; AND TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY WITH THE
DEFINITIONS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR AGENCY COMMENT.
NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED, AND THERE IS NO ACTION AT THIS
TIME.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS?
COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: YEAH, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS AND ONE WOULD
APPEAR TO BE AN ERROR SORT OF QUESTIONS.
ON ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED POPULATION, EFFECTIVELY IT LOOKS
LIKE, TO A LARGE PART, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GETTING RID OF THE TERM
"HOUSEHOLDS" IN THAT AND REPLACING THAT WITH THE TERM
"GROUPS," SO THAT -- I'LL JUST READ IT.
THIS TERM REFERS TO THOSE GROUPS WHOSE INCOME FALLS BELOW 80% OF
THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY MEAN, AND THE STRIKE-OUT LANGUAGE OR THE
OLDER LANGUAGE WAS HOUSEHOLD WHOSE INCOME -- I'M SORRY --
HOUSEHOLDS WHOSE INCOMES FALL BELOW 80% OF THE COUNTY MEDIAN.
SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE RATIONALE THERE.
IT SEEMS, AS I'M JUST ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, THAT A
HOUSEHOLD IS A PRETTY WELL-DEFINED TERM, WHEREAS GROUP IS OBVIOUSLY
NOT.
IS THERE A RATIONALE FOR MAKING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE
AMBIGUOUS?
>>KRISTA KELLY: I WOULD HAVE TO -- THE PERSON DEALING WITH
THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROPOSED THOSE CHANGES, AND I THINK IT'S TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE FEDERAL LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE FOR HUD,
BUT I CAN COME BACK WITH A MORE BETTER -- CLEAR ANSWER.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE MOVING FROM
A FAIRLY CONCISE TERM TO A MUCH MORE AMBIGUOUS TERM.
THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS KIND OF A QUESTION WAS -- I ASSUME IT'S
FOSTER CARE FACILITY.
IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR PACKET, ANYWAY, FOSTER, CAPITAL C-A-R
FACILITY AND THEN THE DEFINITION OF THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT, OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE FOSTER CARE
FACILITY?
>>KRISTA KELLY: I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS DERIVED FROM A
POLICY IN THE PLAN AND IT SHOULD NOT BE IN ALL CAPS.
I WILL MAKE THAT CORRECTION.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THE C-A-R, THEN, WITHOUT THE "E" IS NOT
AN ACRONYM, IT'S A TYPO?
>>KRISTA KELLY: IT'S A TYPO, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S OKAY.
AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS A TYPO UNDER PLANNED VILLAGE.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE SECOND SENTENCE IN THE PLANNED VILLAGE
DEFINITION -- AND I'LL READ IT FOR THE RECORD, THE INTENT OF THIS
CONCEPT IS TO AVOID URBAN SPRAWL THROUGH A MIXED-USE CLUSTERED AN
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF AT LEAST 160 ACRES.
THAT LAST PHRASE OF AT LEAST 160 ACRES IS STRUCK THROUGH.
THEN THE SENTENCE IS REPEATED A SECOND TIME IDENTICAL, WITHOUT
THE STRIKE-THROUGH, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS JUST A TYPO, THAT
THE SAME SENTENCE WAS REPEATED A SECOND TIME.
>>KRISTA KELLY: I WILL ALSO RESEARCH THAT.
>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
>>KRISTA KELLY: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
COMMISSIONERS?
OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CPA 14-09-R, PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITATION
SECTION.
>>KRISTA KELLY: KRISTA KELLY, PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
I'M PRESENTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 14-09-R, PUBLIC
SCHOOL FACILITIES SECTION.
THIS IS AN OPTIONAL ELEMENT.
PREVIOUSLY IT WAS REQUIRED, BUT THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH ALL THE
JURISDICTIONS, WE CHOSE TO RETAIN THAT, AND WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD
IN AGREEMENT.
THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS SECTION ARE PROVISIONS FOR SCHOOL
PLANNING AND COORDINATION BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE SCHOOL
BOARD, PROVISIONS FOR SCHOOL SITING STANDARDS, AND FOR COORDINATION
OF THE PLANS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OF OUR
JURISDICTIONS.
THE CRITICAL FINDINGS IN THIS SECTION ARE THAT EARLY PLANNING
AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ARE ESSENTIAL IN PROJECTING
ENROLLMENT NEEDS.
THE LOCATION AND PROVISION OF SCHOOL FACILITIES IS EFFICIENTLY
DONE CONCURRENT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND ALSO SHARED USE AND COLOCATION OF SCHOOL SITES AND COUNTY
FACILITIES ARE IMPORTANT STRATEGIES.
THE KEY ISSUES ARE TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES
AND SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE FUTURE NEEDS COUNTYWIDE, ENSURING THAT
PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES ARE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND PROVIDING
SCHOOL FACILITIES CONCURRENT WITH NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IS
COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES IN NEAR PROXIMITY.
THE EXPECTED OUTCOMES FROM THIS SECTION ARE, THE PROVISION OF
COMPATIBLE AND SUFFICIENT SCHOOL FACILITIES; HIGHLY COLLABORATIVE
PROCESS FOR SCHOOL PLANNING BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE
JURISDICTIONS; AND ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE COUNTYWIDE.
REVISIONS TO THIS SECTION WERE NONSUBSTANTIVE IN THAT IT DIDN'T
CHANGE HOW WE DO BUSINESS; HOWEVER, WE -- FIRST WE DELETED A POLICY
THAT CALLED FOR REPORTING THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED, THEN
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF POLICY CHANGES THAT MODIFIED WHO ATTENDS THE
ANNUAL JOINT WORKSHOP TO REPORT GROWTH IN DEVELOPMENT TRENDS.
CURRENTLY THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO
ATTEND.
THE POLICY SHIFTS THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO JURISDICTIONAL
STAFF.
A PROVISION WAS ADDED THAT IF THERE IS A NEED TO MODIFY AN
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR ANY CHANGES RELATED TO THE COORDINATION OF
LAND USE AND PLANNING THAT THIS WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL
OF GOVERNMENTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.
NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES, AND NO
ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
>>MITCH THROWER: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR
COMMENTS?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>>KRISTA KELLY: THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: NEXT WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S
REPORT.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: GOOD AFTERNOON.
MELISSA ZORNITTA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAD TWO ITEMS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE
REPORT.
FIRST WAS THE UPDATE ON OUR CONTRACT STATUS.
THERE ARE TWO CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.
ONE IS WITH A GENTLEMAN, MARK DUMMELDINGER, HOPEFULLY I GOT THAT
PRONOUNCED RIGHT, WHO IS A PROFESSOR AT USF WHO IS HELPING WITH
SOME REVIEW OF OUR POPULATION ESTIMATES.
THAT'S FOR $1500.
AND THEN A CONTRACT WITH CUTR AT USF ON HOW WE WILL -- ON
HELPING US COME UP WITH DYNAMIC WAYS TO PUBLISH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLANS ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT THEY'RE MORE USER-FRIENDLY ONCE
THEY'RE PUBLISHED -- ONCE THEY'RE ADOPTED WITH THE UPDATES.
LET'S SEE.
THE SECOND ITEM IS FROM DIANE SALZ, OUR LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, WHO
PREPARED SORT OF SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT SHE SAW COMING FOR
THIS UPCOMING SESSION THAT WERE RELATED TO PLANNING, AND SO THESE
ARE SORT OF THE THINGS THAT SHE WILL BE FOLLOWING.
IN PARTICULAR, AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, SHE'S WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH SHAWN COLLEGE ON THE RIVER BOARD'S LOCAL BILL, BUT
THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS HERE THAT RELATE TO PLANNING ISSUES THAT WE
DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND SO SHE WILL BE FOLLOWING THOSE
FOR US.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU ALL, WE CAN ADD
THAT TO HER LIST FOR HER TO REVIEW AND TRACK FOR US.
AND AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, IT WAS
SUGGESTED THAT SHE COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL AND MEET
WITH YOU ALL, SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH HER ON THE SCHEDULING OF
THAT.
I ALSO PROVIDED AT EACH OF YOUR SEATS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S
REPORT JUST TO HELP ME REMEMBER WHAT ALL HAS BEEN GOING ON, AND
WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU ALL, A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS.
ONE OF THE THING THAT I -- THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING HAS BEEN
TRYING TO BUILD -- CONTINUE TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR
EXISTING -- OUR GOVERNMENT PARTNERS BUT ALSO TO BRANCH OUT AND SEE
ARE THERE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS THAT WE COULD BE
MAKING, SO I HAD A MEETING WITH ALICE COBB WHO WORKS WITH
WORKSOURCE TAMPA BAY.
THAT'S THE NEW NAME FOR THE WORKFORCE ALLIANCE, AND THEY HAVE
SOME -- THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, PERHAPS, TO COLLABORATE ON
DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
MANY TIMES SOME OF THE DATA THAT THEY NEED WE COULD SUPPLY AS
WELL AS -- AND THEN SOME OF THE DATA THAT THEY GENERATE WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO INFORMING OUR PLANNING, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A REAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION THERE.
WE MET WITH BOB HENRIQUEZ, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, ON A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO WORK ON TOGETHER, ONE
DIRECTLY SERVING PLANT CITY.
THEY HAD INQUIRED ABOUT INFORMATION, AND I THINK WORKING WITH
BOB'S OFFICE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME OF THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING ACTUALLY LATER THIS WEEK WITH PLANT
CITY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
AND THEN HE'S INTERESTED IN COLLABORATING WITH US ON SOME OF OUR
GIS TECHNOLOGIES TO SEE HOW WE CAN FURTHER MERGE THOSE.
THEY SUPPLY A LOT OF THE INFORMATION FOR, LIKE, THE EXISTING
LAND USE MAPS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CREATE CERTAIN LAYERS SUCH AS
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THEY'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN FURTHER
COLLABORATE THERE.
MET WITH JIM SHIMBERG, WHO IS THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICE OF
STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTNERS, WHICH IS JEFF VINIK'S COMPANY, AND --
TO SEE HOW WE COULD HELP THEM IN THE WORK THAT MR. -- IN THE
WORK THAT MR. VINIK IS DOING IN SOUTH DOWNTOWN HERE ALONG THE
WATERFRONT, PROVIDE -- IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFIED THE OPPORTUNITY THAT
WE COULD HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE CONTEXT THAT THEY'RE
COMING IN TO AND BE ABLE TO BOLSTER THEIR PROJECT BY SHOWING HOW
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FURTHERING THE
VISION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO WE PROVIDED THEM SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, AND THEN THEY ALSO
WILL BE MEETING WITH SOME OF THE MPO STAFF ON SOME OF THE
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN THAT AREA.
LAST WEEK I WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE FOR APA FLORIDA'S PUBLIC
POLICY WORKSHOP, AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME AT
TALLAHASSEE LAND COUNTY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THEY WERE THE RECIPIENT OF APA NATIONAL'S PLANNING OFFICE OF THE
YEAR AWARD LAST YEAR, AND THEY ALSO HAVE MANY SIMILARITIES TO US
BECAUSE THEY ARE A JOINT PLANNING AGENCY.
THEY SERVE BOTH THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE AND LEON COUNTY.
SO I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW THEY WERE SET UP, HOW THEY -- SOME
OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL OPERATIONS THAT THEY DO, GOT A LOT OF GOOD
IDEAS, SO I'M TRYING TO HIT TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE IN ONE TRIP
THERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: WELL, THEY --
[LAUGHTER]
-- THEY HAVE DONE SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE THINGS.
THEY HAVE INCORPORATED A DESIGN STUDIO, BASICALLY, INTO THEIR
OFFICE, AND THEY HAVE A -- WE HAVE -- FOR THOSE WHO'VE WALKED BACK
INTO -- WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A GRAPHICS TABLE.
WELL, THEY HAVE ONE OF THOSE RIGHT UP FRONT WHEN YOU WALK IN,
AND PRIVATE APPLICANTS COME IN AND MEET WITH THEM, AND THEY HAVE AN
ARCHITECT AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR, SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS THAT THESE
DEVELOPERS ARE GOING THROUGH BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CODES ARE SAYING AND THE VISION THAT'S
OUTLINED THERE, AND THEY HELP THEM REDESIGN THEIR SITES TO MEET --
FURTHER THAT VISION BUT ALSO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO
DO.
THEY'RE SET UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY'RE PLANNING -- THE JOINT PLANNING DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THE REZONING PROCESS FOR THE TWO
JURISDICTIONS, AND THEN THEIR EQUIVALENT TO, LIKE, DEVELOPMENT
SERVICES STARTS WITH JUST THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT REGARD, BUT THAT WAS A
MAJOR PIECE OF WHY THEY WON THE AWARD, I THINK, WAS THAT SHIFT IN
ORIENTATION TO HOW THEY COULD FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED
TO REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK WHILE THE IDEA OF A DESIGN
STUDIO AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT NOT WORK FOR US BECAUSE
THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, THE SHIFT IN THE CULTURE WAS VERY
RELEVANT TO HOW I SEE AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AGENCY MOVE
FORWARD.
LET'S SEE.
AND THEN TEMPLE TERRACE, ON FRIDAY WE GOT TO MEET -- THEY HIRED
A NEW REDEVELOPMENT MANAGER WHO COMES FROM COLORADO AND HAS SOME
REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT HE
BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.
A COUPLE OF OTHER REMINDERS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, FOR THOSE WHO
DON'T KNOW, RAY WAS HIRED AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TBARTA, AND
SO HE DID NOT RETIRE FOR LONG.
[LAUGHTER]
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THAT.
YOU DID RECEIVE VIA E-MAIL FROM ME LAST WEEK, OR YOU SHOULD
HAVE, A QUESTIONNAIRE IN PREPARATION FOR OUR SHORT RETREAT THAT
WILL BE ON MARCH 9th FROM 11:30 TO 3:00.
WE WILL PROVIDE LUNCH.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON THE 15th FLOOR, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY
TO MAKE BEST USE OF YOUR TIME AND ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS UP
FRONT WILL HELP US SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO SOME OF THAT STUFF AT THE
RETREAT.
WE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL PARADE ON
MARCH 2nd.
YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE AT YOUR DESKS A ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL
YEAR '14, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF
GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE ON.
AT THE LAST -- AT THE MPO MEETING IN JANUARY AND AT THE MPO
POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH I'M SURE COMMISSIONER DOUGHTY WILL
MENTION AND COVER IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL
WERE AWARE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT RESTRUCTURING
THE MPO, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN CLEARLY DEFINED TO ME WHAT
RESTRUCTURING MEANS, BUT THAT'S WHY THERE'S A QUESTION IN YOUR
QUESTIONNAIRE FOR THE RETREAT ABOUT THAT ISSUE.
THE MPO IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS.
THEY GOT SIMILAR QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL BE HAVING A -- UTILIZING
ONE OF THEIR POLICY COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR A SHORT RETREAT AS WELL
AND TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD ARE THAT THE -- THE BRANDING
OF THE COMBINED LOGOS WAS CONFUSING AND DID NOT GIVE THE MPO MUCH
OF AN IDENTITY.
IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE ON THE MPO'S PAGE, IT
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE AT A PLANNING COMMISSION PAGE BECAUSE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION'S LOGO IS REALLY BIG, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS
THAT ARE EASY TO FIX AND ADDRESS, AND SO BETH AND I ARE WORKING
TOGETHER ON HOW TO MAKE THE MPO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY HAVE
THAT IDENTITY, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER STRUCTURING QUESTIONS, WE'LL
BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM.
I DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE LAND USE TRANSPORTATION
COLLABORATION IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
WE ARE, BOTH AGENCIES, UNIQUELY SITUATED TO LOOK COUNTYWIDE AT
ISSUES AND LOOK BEYOND THOSE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.
BUT THAT DOESN'T -- BUT I'M ALSO OPEN TO IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS,
HOW CAN WE BEST ADDRESS THEM AND SEE WHERE THAT GOES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I KNOW THAT THE STAFF KIND OF IS MADE UP OF PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF AND MPO STAFF, THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF.
IS THE INTENT TO KIND OF CREATE A CLEAR DELINEATION OR NOT
REALLY TO ADDRESS THAT?
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE INTENT
IS.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW.
>>MELISSA ZORNITTA: BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE A NUMBER OF
EFFICIENCIES THAT WE -- BECAUSE WE'RE COMBINED, YOU KNOW, WE SHARE
AN ACCOUNTANT, WE SHARE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, YEAH, WE'LL FIND OUT.
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THEREOF'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ARTICLES IN
THE PAPER THAT I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS CLIPPINGS.
THERE WAS AN EDITORIAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITE LAST SUNDAY, THEN A
PIECE THAT RAN THIS -- YESTERDAY IN THE TRIBUNE REGARDING THE
UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY AND EXPANDING THE
URBAN SERVICE AREA.
AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THOSE AMENDMENTS AS WE'VE GONE
ALONG.
THERE -- THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT PERHAPS TAKING MORE TIME IN
STUDYING SOME OF THOSE.
SO THE SCHEDULE FOR THE COUNTY'S PLAN UPDATE, I'LL SAY IT'S
PERHAPS FLUID RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE STILL ANTICIPATING PUBLIC HEARINGS IN APRIL.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH UNTIL WE'RE TOLD
OTHERWISE, BUT WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR CLIENT GOVERNMENT AND MAKE
SURE THAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE
FORWARD.
WE WILL BE HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS ON THOSE ON FEBRUARY 25th AND TALKING SORT OF BIG
PICTURE WITH THEM ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, WE NOW HAVE THE NEED TO
PERHAPS LOOK AT EXPANDING THE URBAN SERVICE AREA.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT WE CAN DO WITH REGARDS TO REDEVELOPMENT AND
INFILL, THOUGH, ABSOLUTELY.
I AGREED COMPLETELY WITH COMMISSIONER WHITE IN THAT REGARD.
AND SO WHILE THERE'S THE NEED TO PERHAPS LOOK AT EXPANDING THE
URBAN SERVICE AREA, IT'S NEEDED FOR 2040, SO IT'S NOT WITH A HUGE
SENSE OF URGENCY THAT IF WE NEED TO DELAY A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO
MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING
THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT, IN MY OPINION, SO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE HEARING SCHEDULED.
WE ARE PLANNING TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN APRIL RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE STILL PROCEEDING WITH THAT.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS THAT CHANGES, BUT JUST AS LATE AS
FRIDAY I WAS TALKING WITH LUCIA GARSYS ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS, AND I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THAT WORKSHOP
WHETHER WE'LL REALLY HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHETHER WE'RE ABLE TO
ADDRESS THEM RIGHT NOW OR NEED TO TAKE MORE TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON.
SO THANK YOU.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I'LL START OFF WITH CHAIR'S BUSINESS.
I JUST WANTED TO FIRST MENTION, I WANTED TO THANK MELISSA AND
STAFF FOR GETTING THE ELAP PROGRAM ON THE AGENDA.
THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PIKE MENTIONED
THAT HE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND SPEAK TO US ON BEHALF
OF.
WE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT
WERE BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING, SO WE'RE -- WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN
ABOUT THOSE ITEMS, SO -- ONE OF THEM WAS THE UTILITY RIGHT-OF-WAY,
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING SCHEDULED CONCERNING
THAT TOO IN THE FUTURE.
I DID WANT TO MENTION, I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK TO THE TAMPA BAY
BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, SO I WENT TO THEIR LUNCHEON.
THEY ASKED ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
IT WAS ENLIGHTENING.
I FIGURE IT'S A GOOD EXPERIENCE TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND
HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, AND I TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS, BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION, I'LL MAKE SURE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION, AT LEAST THE STAFF AND MELISSA, HEARS WHAT
THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND EVERYTHING, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR
MEETINGS ARE OPEN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME HERE.
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING.
THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE URBAN SERVICE AREA AND SOME OTHER
ITEMS ABOUT HOW TRANSPORTATION'S BEING, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPED, BUT
THE URBAN SERVICE AREA WAS ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS.
THE I-4 CORRIDOR GOING TOWARDS PLANT CITY WAS ANOTHER BIG ISSUE,
YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S BEING DEVELOPED.
SO LIKE I SAID, I -- IF ANYBODY WANTS ME OR I'M ASSUMING OTHER
COMMISSIONERS MAY BE INTERESTED IN GOING OUT AND SPEAKING TO THE
PUBLIC, I FIGURE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ENLIGHTENING FOR ME BECAUSE IT
GIVES ME A CHANCE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, AND I
THINK AS A BOARD MEMBER, THAT'S ONE OF OUR PURPOSES IS TO BRING
IDEAS FROM THE PUBLIC BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE, AND IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE ME TO
COME OR ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE ASK, SO ...
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CHAIR'S BUSINESS.
I'M GOING TO GO -- ANY OLD BUSINESS?
ANY NEW BUSINESS?
COMMITTEE REPORTS.
>>GARY PIKE: WELL, MR. CHAIR, AS YOU KNOW, WE MET
TODAY FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, COMPRISED OF COMMISSIONERS BENSON,
GREEN, BUZZA -- OR CHAIRMAN IS ON THAT ALSO, AND MELISSA, WHO'S
STAFF, SO WE DID GET TOGETHER TODAY AND DISCUSS THE BUDGET, TALKED
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GLD AND SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES, SO WE'RE
PROGRESSING NICELY.
ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE, OBVIOUSLY, INVITED IF YOU WANT TO
ATTEND.
THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF PRESENTATION.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PIKE.
COMMISSIONER DOUGHTY.
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THE MPO MEETING.
AS MELISSA REFERRED TO, I'VE ATTENDED MPO MEETINGS AND POLICY
COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S -- SHE'S NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE PROPOSAL
IS.
NEITHER AM I.
AS FAR AS RESTRUCTURING OF THE MPO, IT WAS BROUGHT IN.
I'VE ATTENDED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TWO MPO MEETINGS SINCE BEING
APPOINTED, SO IT WAS BROUGHT UP BRIEFLY AT THE FIRST ONE AND WASN'T
ACTUALLY DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND BRIEFLY AT THE POLICY
COMMITTEE MEETING THERE WAS A PRESENTATION ON HOW MPOs ARE
STRUCTURED AROUND THE AREA, SO LIKE MELISSA, I'M STILL TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REQUEST WILL BE OR -- AND IS PREDICATED UPON IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO THINK IT THROUGH AND MAKE WHATEVER NECESSARY
CHANGES, IF ANY, THERE ARE.
IN FEBRUARY 3rd'S MPO MEETING, HOWEVER, WE HAD A COUPLE OF
ITEMS.
WE GOT A PRESENTATION ON COLUMBUS DRIVE CORRIDOR STUDY, GENA
TORRES TALKED ABOUT THE STUDY OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, 17th, 18th, AND
19th GOING FROM ONE-WAY TO TWO-WAY AND THE BENEFITS THAT MAY COME
FROM THAT.
WHAT DID COME OUT OF THAT IS THAT, LIKE EVERYTHING, IT COSTS
MONEY, AND WHILE WE MIGHT THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO, IT COSTS
MONEY TO DO IT, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD
IDEAS, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO BE IN A PARTICULAR PRIORITY TO GET
DONE.
AND A NUMBER OF THE MEMBERS -- AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT
AT THE NEXT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING -- WERE ASKING FOR A
PRESENTATION ON FUNDING SOURCES AND AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCES WHERE
WE CAN LEVERAGE THE MONEY THAT THE MPO HAS TO GAIN OTHER FUNDS IN
ORDER TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
SO THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD -- A GOOD ITEM.
WE GOT A RESULTS OF A TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TRANSPORTATION
SURVEY TALKING ABOUT -- AND IT KIND OF PLAYS WITH THE FOLLOWING
PIECE OF THE STREETCAR EXTENSION STUDY AS FAR AS THE BENEFITS, WHAT
THE BUSINESSES IN THE TAMPA -- THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA
CHAMBER ARE LOOKING FOR AND THEN WITH THE STREETCAR EXTENSION STUDY
AS FAR AS WHAT PORTIONS OF THE BUSINESS POPULATION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA WOULD BENEFIT OR BE SERVED BY A POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE
STREETCAR EXTENSION, WHICH ALSO COSTS MONEY.
AND THEN WE HAD BETH'S FIRST EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT TO US,
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ENOUGH FOR MY BRIEFING.
THANKS.
>>MITCH THROWER: OKAY.
THANK YOU.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS, I DID WANT TO MENTION
THAT I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT THIS IS COMMISSIONER VALDES' LAST
MEETING WITH US AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY
A FEW THINGS?
I THINK YOU'VE BEEN ON THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, SO I
KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE.
>>CATHY VALDES: WELL, YES.
I'M LEAVING THE DISTRICT, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
FOR 42 YEARS, SO THAT'S A NICE, LONG TIME.
BUT I'VE BEEN WITH THIS COMMISSION FOR TEN YEARS, SO I THINK
I'VE WATCHED ALL OF YOU COME AND GO.
[LAUGHTER]
>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE'RE NOT GONE YET.
[LAUGHTER]
>>CATHY VALDES: THAT'S RIGHT, I'M GOING.
BUT I WILL SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
WHILE I'VE BEEN THE EDUCATOR IN THE GROUP, IT'S BEEN QUITE THE
EDUCATION BEING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND AN ENJOYABLE ONE AT
THAT.
I REALLY HAVE -- AS A NATIVE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, I HAVE TO
SAY THIS EXPERIENCE OVER THESE TEN YEARS REALLY HELPS ME TO
APPRECIATE THE PLANNING THAT GOES -- YOU KNOW, AS THE PLANNING
COMMISSION PLANS FOR AND WITH THE COMMUNITY, IT REALLY HAS HELPED
M