Guidance & Counselling Presentation to Parents CAO Application 2011.

Guidance & CounsellingGuidance & CounsellingPresentation to ParentsPresentation to Parents

CAO Application

2011

Career Guidance & CounsellingCareer Guidance & Counsellingfor for

Leaving Certificate StudentsLeaving Certificate Students Individual guidance

appointments Accessing Information Online C.A.O applications P.L.C / FETAC courses UCAS applications Open Days Career Talks Interest /Aptitude tests

National Framework of QualificationsNational Framework of Qualifications

Level 8 Honours Bachelor Degree – 4 years

Level 6 Higher Certificate - 2years Level 7 Ordinary Bachelor Degree – 3 years

Leaving CertificateLeaving Certificate

FETAC FETAC Fás, Teagasc, BIM, PLC,Fáilte IrelandFás, Teagasc, BIM, PLC,Fáilte Ireland

Institutes of TechnologyInstitutes of Technology

UniversitiesUniversities

The Ladder SystemThe Ladder System

CAO Dates & Fees:CAO Dates & Fees:ONLINE APPLICATION FEE CLOSING DATE

Discounted Rate €30 20th Jan 2011

Normal Application €40 1st Feb 2011

Late Application €60 1st May 2011

PAPER APPLICATION FEE CLOSING DATE

Normal Application €40 1st Feb 2011

Late Application €80 1st May 2011

CHANGE OF MIND Nil 1st July 2011

Courses in the CAO SystemCourses in the CAO System

900 + courses listed in the CAO Handbook

550 + are Level 8 350 + are Level 7/6

courses – ------------------------------

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PLC / FETAC COURSES– NOT APPLIED FOR

THROUGH CAO

Stages of CAO ApplicationStages of CAO Application

Stage 1 – Before You Apply – Research online / Open Days/ Study!! Goal Setting!!

Stage 2 – Completing the Application – Online Recommended – www.cao.ie

Stage 3 - Record of Application from CAO Stage 4 - Change of Mind – until 1st July Stage 5 - Leaving Certificate Results Stage 5 - Offers and Acceptance of Places -

August

Making an applicationMaking an application

Applicants are encouraged to apply online.The website address is www.cao.ieApplying online is cheaper and it prevents

many of the errors commonly associated with completing a paper application form.

Application Form: Part A Application Form: Part A Part A of the Application Form is mostly self

explanatory.

Information which identifies you is of the utmost importance.

Carefully enter details such as your name, address, date of birth, schools attended etc.

Application Form: Part A Application Form: Part A

Your examination details must be entered with great care.

Make sure you inform CAO about all relevant qualifications

Two Applications on One Two Applications on One FormForm

There are two course choice lists and applicants may make up to ten course choices on each list.

10 choices may be made on the Level 8 list

10 choices may be made on the Level 7/6 list

Two Applications on One Two Applications on One FormForm

Your choices on one list do not in any way affect your choices on the other list.

They may be considered two separate applications on one form.

Two Applications on One Two Applications on One FormForm

It is possible to receive an offer on both lists

You may then decide to accept either your Level 7/6 or your Level 8 offer.

Alternatively, you might not wish to accept either offer.

Order of PreferenceOrder of PreferenceIf you learn nothing else from this

presentation let it be this...

Place your course choices in genuine order of preference!

To do otherwise is a grave mistake.

Application Form: Part BApplication Form: Part B

Most applicants will not be required to complete Part B of the application form.

For example, if you are a first-time Leaving Certificate candidate under the age of 23, you will not be required to complete Part B of the form.

Application Form: Part BApplication Form: Part B

Applicants who will be required to complete Part B of the application form include those who are applying on grounds of mature years, and those presenting qualifications other than Irish Leaving Certificate or FETAC Level 5/6.

Application Form: Part BApplication Form: Part B

Detailed instructions for the completion of Part B of the application form may be found in the CAO Handbook and on the website.

Your Application NumberYour Application Number If you apply online your application number will appear on

your Receipt of Online Application.– This number is private and it will be used in every

correspondence between you and the CAO for the rest of the year.

– If you apply online you may change your course choices free of charge until January 31st.

Statement of Course ChoicesStatement of Course Choices

If you submit a Paper application form by 1st February, you will receive a Statement of Course Choices by 15th February at the latest.

(15th May in the case of Late Applications).

Carefully read the instructions provided with the Statement

Statement of Course ChoicesStatement of Course ChoicesThe Statement is important for two reasons:1. The Statement of Course Choices includes notification of

your CAO application number.

2. The Statement of Course Choices lists the courses that you have applied for.

If you have made any mistake or omission in your course choices then now is the time to rectify your error.

Pay particular attention to restricted courses.

Communicating With CAOCommunicating With CAO The easiest and most efficient way to

communicate with CAO is by using the 'Contact Us' facility on the CAO website.

Always quote your CAO application number in any communication with CAO.

If you post something to CAO, always obtain a certificate of posting at the post office. This is a free service and it offers you peace of mind.

Statement of Application Statement of Application Record.Record.

• Check the following carefully, if there is any error or omission, amend the Statement and return it to CAO.

– Are all the courses shown and in the correct order?– Are all the codes correct?– Are the exam numbers correct?– Are all exams mentioned?– If you do not receive a Statement by 1st June contact

CAO immediately.

Statement of Application Statement of Application RecordRecord

– Included with the Statement of Application Record will be a Change of Mind form. You may use this to change the order of your course choices and/or to introduce new courses, subject to the restrictions detailed in the Handbook.

– It is safer to use the Change of Mind Facility on the website than to use a paper Change of Mind form.

The Offer ProcessThe Offer Process In the week following the release of the Leaving

Certificate results CAO will post a communication to all applicants.

If you have not yet become entitled to an offer you will be sent a Statement of Application Record which you should check carefully as important information may be incorrect or missing.

The Offer ProcessThe Offer Process If you are entitled to an offer, you will be sent an

offer notice. You should check that all of the details on the offer notice are correct and that there are no omissions.

Offers will also be available on the CAO website. You may check for and accept offers on the

website. In fact, most applicants now record acceptances online.

The Offer ProcessThe Offer Process Your offer notice may contain an offer

– for a Level 8 course– or a Level 7/6 course – or both

If you receive two offers at the same time you may only accept one of them.

If you wish to accept an offer of a place you must carry out the instructions on the offer notice before 5.15pm on the closing date for acceptance printed on the offer notice.

The Offer ProcessThe Offer ProcessThere can be no delays at the

offer/acceptance stage.

Any offer not accepted by the closing date for receipt of acceptance of offers in CAO will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers.

How Places are AllocatedHow Places are AllocatedWe will look just at Level 8 courses, but

exactly the same process will take place with Level 7/6 courses, and at the same time.

The importance of you, the applicant, placing courses in genuine order of preference will become apparent in the following slides.

How Places are AllocatedHow Places are AllocatedWhen examination results are released in

August they are entered into the CAO computer.

The computer checks each applicant’s results. For each course the applicant has applied for, the computer first determines if the applicant has the minimum entry requirements for the course.

How Places are AllocatedHow Places are AllocatedIf the applicant meets the minimum entry

requirements for the course, the applicant’s points are calculated for this course choice.

All eligible applicants are then placed in a list, in order of academic merit, for each course that they applied for.

How Places are AllocatedHow Places are AllocatedThe admissions officers of the Higher

Education Institutions tell CAO how many places are to be offered on each course

CAO then makes offers to the required number of applicants on each course starting with the applicant with the highest points and working down until enough places have been offered.

How Places are AllocatedHow Places are Allocated Should some applicants decline to accept their

offers these places become available in the next round of offers. They will be offered to the next applicants on the order of merit list.

This process continues until all the places on the course are filled or until all the eligible applicants on the order of merit list have been offered places.

These are the applicants for CK101 Arts in UCC. The examination results have not yet been released, so these applicants are in no particular order.

We are going to trace the progress of the applicant marked in red.

Applicants are placed in a queue for each course they applied for, their position in the queue is determined by their points. The applicant with the highest points is placed at the top of the queue. The points achieved by the applicant in red determines his position in the queue for each course he applied to.

The applicants marked in green have enough points to be offered places. The applicant marked in red has enough points for his second preference.

The applicant in red is offered his second preference, the highest preference course that he has enough points for, and he will now dissappear from the queue in all his lower choices. Placing DN201 as his second preference meant that he would prefer to receive an offer on DN201 than on any other course except CK101 - which is his first preference.

Having been offered his second preference he must now decide to accept it or to do nothing. If he does not accept the offer the place will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers.

Regardless of whether he accepts or not he will still be considered for an offer on his first preference if a place becomes available. In the second round, one more offer was made on CK101 and our applicant is now at the top of the queue.

In the third round of offers two more offers are made on CK101 and our applicant, who was at the top of the queue, now receives an offer.

He may do nothing and remain in DN201 or he may accept the offer and begin in CK101.

Genuine Order of Preference• You do not need to guess what the points are

going to be for the courses you are interested in.

• Simply list your courses in genuine order of preference from the highest preference 1, to the lowest preference 10.

• If you are entitled to an offer, you will be offered the highest preference that you are entitled to.

The End• Remember to carefully read all of the documents

and instructions from CAO.

• Most applicants follow the simple instructions from CAO and get along just fine.

• If you are unclear on any matter concerning the application process, please contact us.

Filling up your course choices Filling up your course choices on the CAO Formon the CAO Form

LEVEL 8(Honours Degree Courses)1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.

Level 6 & 7(Higher Certificate & Ordinary Degree

Course)1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.

ORDER OF ORDER OF PREFERENCE PREFERENCE IS THE RULE!!!!IS THE RULE!!!!

Points SystemPoints System

6 LC subjects counted for points UL – bonus points for HL Maths DIT – HL Maths bonus – 2 courses LCVP – can be used as 1 of the 6

subjects Only applies to CAO Courses

Minimum Requirements– RESIDENCE– COLLEGE– COURSE

ACCESSACCESS

HEARHEAR

DAREDARE

Equity of Access to Equity of Access to Higher EducationHigher Education

To widen access to Third Level the following 2 To widen access to Third Level the following 2 initiatives have been introduced:initiatives have been introduced:

DAREDAREDisability Access Route to EducationDisability Access Route to Education

Student with a Specific Learning Difficulty/Disability is encouraged to indicate this on CAO form.

SIF –Supplementary Information Form

– Section A Completed by student

– Section B Completed by school

– Section C Completed by consultant

NUI TCD UL DCU RCSI AIT DIT GMIT NCAD Mater Dei NCI CIT

HEARHEARHigher Education Access RouteHigher Education Access Route

Who is eligible to apply?

Financial Indicators 1. Income 2. Medical Card 3. Social Welfare

Payment

Social & Cultural Indicators 4. Socio-economic

Group 5. School 6. Area

Applicants must meet the Applicants must meet the Low IncomeLow Income plus plus 22 other indicators in order to be eligibleother indicators in order to be eligible

Important PointsImportant Points

Read the CAO handbook Read the relevant college prospectus Choose courses in order of Preference and based

on genuine career aspirations Do not base choice on projected exam results or

last year’s points Do not guess, assume or listen to rumours Always check with CAO if in doubt Keep the CAO handbook in a safe place

CAO JARGONCAO JARGON

Restricted Entry Courses

Points Requirements Course Requirements Change of Mind Offers Random Selection Vacant Places Deferrals

Read the CAO Handbook!

PLC PLC Post Leaving Certificate Courses - Post Leaving Certificate Courses - FETACFETAC

Apply directly to collegeApply directly to college

1 or 2 years1 or 2 years

Wide variety of coursesWide variety of courses

Pathway to Higher EducationPathway to Higher Education

Gap Year – Defer CAO CourseGap Year – Defer CAO Course

Lead to employmentLead to employment

UCASUCAS((University & College Application SystemUniversity & College Application System

England,Scotland,Wales &N.Ireland)England,Scotland,Wales &N.Ireland)

Early Closing Date – 15th October 2010 (Med,Dent,Vet,Oxford,Cambridge) General Closing Date -15th January 2011

Apply Online Only - £21 Sterling Choose 5 Courses, Write Personal Statement, Reference from school.

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Why Consider UCAS??Why Consider UCAS??

Insurance option for course areas where points are very high

e.g. Medical, Paramedical, Engineering,

Primary Teaching etc.

UCASUCAS

InterviewsConditional Offer/Unconditional OfferFirm Acceptance/Insurance Acceptance

No Obligation to AcceptDoes not effect CAO Application

Financial Support for StudentsFinancial Support for Students–Watch the local papers for advertisement

–Apply to local authorityOffaly County Council/ North Tipp County Council

Co. Offaly VEC / North Tipp VEC

Apply early

IF IN DOUBT _ CHECK IT OUTIF IN DOUBT _ CHECK IT OUT

CostsCosts

Registration FeeOn-campus

AccommodationBooks/Equipment

ScholarshipsScholarships

Sports

Millennium Trust

Academic

Science Foundation Science Foundation ScholarshipScholarship

Dept. Education Dept. Education & Science & Science ScholarshipsScholarships

How to make a good Decision!How to make a good Decision!

Research and Shortlist CAO Courses Gather Information on courses

– www.cao.ie – www.qualifax.ie– www.careersportal.ie– www.accesscollege.ie– www.studentfinance.ie

DISCUSS optionsGuidance Counsellor, Parents, Teachers, College,Admissions Personnel, significant others.

EGFSN June 09EGFSN June 09Expert Group on Future Skills NeedExpert Group on Future Skills Need

IT – Scientists – Engineering Marketing & Sales

with languages Healthcare Financial/Accounting Economics Construction,

renewable energies

Current graduates focussing on international opportunities

Recession BustersRecession Busters

Stay In EducationStay In Education

Choose Course WiselyChoose Course Wisely

Beware : Dropout rate!!Beware : Dropout rate!!

Reinforce skillsReinforce skills

Keep PositiveKeep Positive

Key ingredients for success;Key ingredients for success;

Interest & Interest & PassionPassion