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irakli RaribaSvili: biZina ivaniSvilisaqarTvelos datovebas ar apirebs!~
_ wina reJims aucileb-lad unda mieces samarTleb-rivi da politikuri Sefa-seba.
_ vadamdeli sapar-lamento arCevnebis moTxov-nasac xom ar apirebT?
_ amaze sxvebis magiv-rad verafers vityvi. vadam-del saparlamento arCevneb-ze Cems pozicias mogaxse-nebT. pirovnulad es Cemisurvilia. mimaCnia, rom par-
lamentis vadamdeli arCevnebi unda Catardes, imi-tom, rom 2012 wlis arCevnebi ar iyo samarTliani.miuxedavad imisa, rom `qarTuli ocneba~ pirveladgilze gavida, is arCevnebi gayalbebulia. araf-riT ar SeiZleboda `nacionalur moZraobas~ aeRo40 procenti parlamentSi. `nacionalebi~ 25 pro-centze mets ver moipovebdnen. axla ras vxedavT?parlamentSi 40 procents flobs da erTaderTpolitikur opoziciur Zalad gamocxadebuliakriminaluri dajgufeba. `nacionalur moZraobad~wodebulma kriminalurma dajgufebam Cveni teri-toriebis 20 procenti Caabara ruseTs. gansakuT-rebul guliswyromas iwvevs kodoris xeobis daT-moba, sadac ruseTs fexic ki ar hqonda dadgmuli.axla es damnaSaveebi gamodian da evropaze xmama-Ral gancxadebebs akeTeben. `nacmoZraoba~ evro-pul mantiaSi gaxveuli mexuTe kolonaa. `naciona-lebi~ sul imas akeTebdnen, rac rusebs undodaT.magaT gayvanili jari Semoiyvanes saqarTveloSi.
_ Tqveni TanamebrZoli mixeil cilikiSviliaprotestebs imas, rom prezidentma margvelaS-vilma gverdze ise Cauara yofili politpatimre-bis aqcias, rom yuradRebac ar miaqcia. misiveTqmiT, prezidenti saCqarod wavida riyeze sxvaSekrebaze `lgbt-sastavTan da `nacionalebTan~...
_ prezidentis damokidebulebiT bevri ra-me gamoCnda. naTeli gaxda, rom is ar aris yvelasprezidenti. yofili politpatimrebisa da polit-represirebulebis sazogadoebrivi organizaciarom CamovayalibeT, prezidents (aseve premier-ministrs da parlamentis Tavmjdomares) da weri-lobiT mivmarTeT da Cveni moTxovnebi gavacaniT.ase rom, giorgi margvelaSvili Cveni moTxovnebissaqmis kursSi iyo. Tu CvenTan Sexvedra ar SeeZlo,pasuxi mainc gaeca! aranairi pasuxi ar gvaRirsesda aqciebic imitom dagvWirda. vxedavT, rom gi-orgi margvelaSvili ar aris yvelas prezidenti.is Tavs Tvlis lgbt-sazogadoebis, aseve ucxoe-Tidan dafinansebuli im arasamTavrobo organi-zaciebis prezidentad, romlebsac me grantiWami-ebs veZaxi. faqtia, rom politikuri niSniT repre-sirebulebs da yofil patimrebs margvelaSviliarafrad gvagdebs da ar miaCnia, rom is Cveniprezidenticaa. seriozuli samarTlebrivi moT-xovnebi gvqonda da aseT uyuradRebobas wavaw-ydiT. aseT moTxovnebs msoflioSi veravin verauvlis gverds. erTi politpatimris istoriazecki ra aJiotaJia xolme atexili! Cven vcxovrobTukuRmarT qveyanaSi. hgoniaT, Tu yuradRebas armogvaqceven, ese igi, probleba ar arsebobs. adreTu gvian, am problemasac moevleba. ori axalgaz-rda biWi myavs. maT momavalze da sxvebzec vzrunav.minda, normaluri saxelmwifo gvqondes. ar mindaCvenma Svilebmac is koSmari gamoiaron, rac CvengadavitaneT. saerTod, ar minda momavalma Taobamicodes yvela ministris gvari da deputatebiscxovrebis detalebi. xelisuflebaSi Cven mier da-qiravebuli xalxia. Cven vuxdiT am adamianebs fuls,Cven vqiraobT. isini Cveni ufrosebi ar arian. Tanam-debobis pirebma zemodan ar unda gviyuron. maRal-Cinosnebi ubralo moqalaqes eubnebian, Sen 150 la-ri unda ikmaro, me ki 15 000-lariani xelfasi, pre-miebi, ufaso telefoni da benzini unda mqondeso.
_ ubralo moqalaqeebs arc premier-minis-tris mier gamocxadebuli winasaarCevno amnistiamoewonaT...
_ winasaarCevno amnistiam, marTlac, ukmayo-fileba gamoiwvia. ar SeiZleba premier-ministrigankargavdes aseT sakiTxebs da akrZalos imisidasja, visac kriminali aqvs Cadenili. adgebindamnaSaveebi, gawevriandebian partiebSi, CaerTve-bian winasaarCevno kampaniaSi da danaSaulze pa-suxs ar ageben.
Sorena kowowaSvili
erovnuli moZraobis wevri mamukagiorgaZe regionalizmis safrTxeze sa-ubrobs da xelisuflebas urCevs, ukra-inaSi ganviTarebuli movlenebidan ga-momdinare, maqsimalurad frTxiladimoqmedos. giorgaZe ambobs, rom rasacruseTi ukrainas ZaliT akeTebinebs, imassaqarTvelos xelisufleba Tavisi ini-ciativiT akeTebs.
giorgaZe javaxeTis regionTan da-kavSirebiTac xedavs safrTxes da fiq-robs, rom msgavs seriozul TemebzedResvea nabijebis gadasadgmeli.
raze metyvelebs nacionalebis da`ocnebis~ nabijebi da ra gadawyvetile-ba SeiZleba miiRos dasavleTma saqar-Tvelos xelisuflebis nabijebidan ga-momdinare? _ am sakiTxebis irgvliv gTa-vazobT intervius `saxalxo partiis~Tavmjdomare mamuka giorgaZesTan.
_ absurdamde davida, ar iyosCaTvlili. politikuri angariS-sworeba swored es aris, rasac ax-la isini akeTeben. dade argumenti,sasamarTlo Caatare da daamTavre.ar unda es keklucoba. Tu ugulavadamnaSavea, daiWire, oRond doku-menti dade. vano merabiSvils ki co-ta ufro seriozuli argumenti un-da mouZebno, romelic mas mravaliaqvs Cadenili imisaTvis, rom gasa-marTldes. adeiSvilze Zebna saer-Tod ar aris gamocxadebuli, ro-mel devnaze melaparakebiT?! es arisdevnis imitacia, raTa nacmoZraobaiyos warmoCinebuli, rogorc meo-re politikuri Zala, es erTi mxrivda meore mxriv, praqtikulad mim-dinareobs garkveuli qmedebebi, ra-Ta dasavleTma TviTon Tqvas uarisaqarTvelosTan urTierTobaze.rogorc 2007 wlis darbevam da ga-moyenebulma mxuTavma airma ar mis-ca saSualeba, sababad gamoiyenesevropulma qveynebma, rom saqarTve-losTvis mapi ar miecaT, dRevande-li xelisuflebis moqmedebebi nac-moZraobis winaaRmdeg swored am mi-marTulebiT aris gadadgmuli. ele-mentarulad, bolos da bolos, ragaxda, me movugvareb am sakiTxs, Tuase sWirdebaT _ evropis saxalxopartiasTan da evropis struqtu-rebTan urTierTobas. Cven ubralodamis teqnikuri saSualebebi aragvaqvs. isini dainteresebuli ari-an, rom saqarTvelos mxridan aras-wori informaciebi wavides dasav-leTis mimarTulebiT. es, bunebri-via, awyobs ocnebas da awyobs nac-moZraobas. es ori Zala aTamaSebserTmaneTSi, abiTurebs, SeiZlebaiTqvas, qarTvel xalxs.
_ anu am mxriv Zvelsa da axalxelisuflebas Soris SeTanxmebuliqmedeba ikveTeba?
_ SeTanxmebuli moqmedebebia,es ar niSnavs imas, rom konkretuliadamiani erTi jgufidan meores,dRes aq xvdeba. magram is, rom amaTimarTva erTi centridan xdeba, faq-ti saxezea. SeuZlebelia am mxrivmoxdes aseTi orivesTvis misaRebi
politikuri speqtaklis dadgma. 2welia xelisuflebaSia ocneba daCven ukve SegviZlia dadasturebu-lad visaubroT im taqtikaze, ras-Tan gvaqvs saqme; rom koabitaciaqarTvel xalxTan ver Sedga da arSedga; ar Sedga samarTlianobisdamkvidreba; ar Sedga saakaSvilismier devnil politikur ZalebTanTanamSromloba da a.S. samagierod,grZeldeba axali konfiguraciiTnacmoZraoba_ocnebis es politiku-ri Tanacxovreba. xandaxan xdeba eq-scesebi da es isea dapiarebuli, TiT-qos marTla dapirispirebaa maT So-ris.
_ xelisuflebam sakmaod si-suste aCvena am ori wlis manZilze?
_ sisustis gamosworeba amori wlis ganmavlobaSi namdviladSeiZleboda. ufro metad maTi ga-rigebisken gvibiZgebs argumentebi.imitom, rom Tundac mas survilihqonoda nacmoZraobis Canacvleba,amis ganxorcieleba ocnebas Tavi-suflad SeeZloT. yovel SemTxveva-Si, jansaRi konkurentuli garemorom daenerga da yvela organizaci-isTvis mieca SesaZlebloba poli-tikur procesebSi monawileobis mi-Rebisa, nacmoZraoba, rogorc po-litikuri organizacia, ukve dam-Tavrebuli iqneboda. magram xeli-suflebam Caketa sivrce da am siv-rceSi mxolod da mxolod aris oc-neba da nacmoZraoba, danarCeni par-tiebi ki _ garnirad. yvela politi-kur Toq-SouSi ZiriTadi oponente-bi aris nacmoZraoba da ocneba, da-narCenebi anu wvrilfexoba _ garni-ri, romelmac unda Seafasos an er-Tis, an meoris qmedeba. ara mgonia,es qarTuli sazogadoebisTvis Se-umCneveli gaxdes. sarezervod Se-iZleba iyos burjanaZe, ra ici, raxdebao. sazogadoebam unda gaacno-bieros Tavisi pasuxismgebloba amyoveliveSi. es xom sazogadoebispasiuri cxovrebis gamo xdeba.
_ Ss ministris gancxadeba mo-salodneli areulobis Taobaze danacionalebis mxridan erovnulimoZraobis dawyebis Taobaze gake-Tebuli gancxadeba droSi TiTqmisdaemTxva. SeiZleba nacionalebmaerovnul moZraobaze isaubron daSeswevT ki maT unari seriozuladdaZabon am xelisuflebis pirobeb-Si viTareba?
_ nacionalebi da erovnulobaerTmaneTisgan Zalian Sorsaa. erov-nuli moZraoba maTTvis mxolod sit-yvebia. maT am sityvebis arsic ki aresmiT. aqedan gamomdinare maT erov-nuli moZraobis wamowyebis saSuale-ba ar gaaCniaT. eqscesebi SeiZlebamoxdes. dramatuli speqtaklebi au-cileblad ganviTardeba. aucileb-lad moxdeba xalxis gabiTurebisTvisdramatuli speqtaklebi, viTom da-pirispirebebi. magaliTad, Cven gvax-sovs karaleTSi rogor dauSines ka-xi kalaZes qvebi. magram kalaZe daigive nacionalebi mis saministroSiZalian kargad TanamSromloben. aserom, es garkveuli speqtaklebia, ro-melic xelisuflebas axorcielebs.Sinaarsobrivad ki, rac undoda saa-kaSvils, igive xdeba: xudoni Sende-ba, daviT garejaze xmas aravin iRebs,baTumSi meCeTis mSeneblobaze isevsaubroben. anakliis Temaze isev sa-ubroben. aba, meti saakaSvils sxva rasakiTxebze hqonda saubari. martococxebis Temaa gadamwyveti?! es ada-mianebi am proeqtebs axorcieleben.igive kalaZe axorcielebs energeti-kaSi imave proeqtebs. igive xalxia,igive mowileebi, SeiZleba viRaca Ca-texes wilidan. es aris simptomatu-ri. erTi Temaa gadasanawilebeli _Tbilisis SemovliTi rkinigzis mSe-nebloba. iqac albaT wilebi gadana-wildeba. viRacebs amoagdeben nace-bidan, TviTon Cajdebian da is proeq-tic iqneba realizebuli. ai, saxe Cve-ni dRevandeli xelisuflebisa da wi-na xelisuflebis erTmaneTTan damo-kidebulebisa. erTmaneTTan arsob-rivi brZola ar midis. nacmoZraobassWirdeba daCagrulis imiji, radganxalxis mxardaWeris mopoveba unda.es ki saqarTveloSi daCagrulobiTxdeba. nacionalebs fuli aqvT da ax-la reabilitaciaze muSaoben.
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damatebiTi kiTxvebi, me mgoni, aRar unda arsebobdes.rac Seexeba sasamarTlos, Tu procesebi dawyebulia dasaqme mZime danaSauls exeba, moratoriumi masze, ra Tqmaunda, ar gavrceldeba. moratoriumi mZime danaSaulsar Seexeba. _ ganacxada irakli RaribaSvilma.
premieri aseve gamoexmaura im moqalaqeebis ukma-yofilebasac, romlebmac moratoriumis gamocxadebagaakritikes.
_ me movismine wuxili imis Taobaze, Tu ratomgamovacxadeT moratoriumi danaSaulebrivi reJimiswarmomadgenlebis dakavebebze. kidev erTxel ganvmar-tav, rom xalxSi ar darCes raime SekiTxva _ esaa abso-luturad civilizebuli forma, radgan gvsurs davum-tkicoT mTels msoflios, rom varT normaluri, Zlie-ri saxelmwifo, romelic aris mzad gamowvevebisTvisda romelsac aqvs ambicia, gaxdes Tanamedrove, evro-puli, civilizebuli saxelmwifo. _ aRniSna premierma.
RaribaSvilma aRniSna, rom xelisuflebas surs,saarCevno kampania maqsimalurad mSvid da konkretulgaremoSi warimarTos da aravis unda mieces saSualebaam procesiT spekulirebis.
_ Zalian rTulia erTmniSvnelovnad Tqma, romaseT rTul situaciaSi Jurnalistebi varT Tu aradaculebi. saqme gvaqvs konfliqtis zonasTan. yvelaJurnalisti, romelic midis reportaJis mosamzadeb-lad cxel wertilSi, bunebrivia, rom man icis, ramdgomareobaSi imyofeba da rogor SeiZleba ganviTar-des movlenebi. konfliqtis zonaSi mu-Saoba, saerTod eqstremalur viTareba-Si muSaoba gansxvavebuli wesebiT xde-ba. Cven ar gvaqvs informacia, Tu ramoxda am konkretul SemTxvevaSi. ar vi-ciT, romel mxares, ra zolSi muSaob-dnen Jurnalistebi. erTmniSvnelovnadrac SemiZlia giTxraT aris is, rom Jur-nalistis dakaveba, rodesac is muSaobs,arc konfliqtis zonaSi da arc sxva si-tuaciaSi dauSvebelia. Jurnalistis-Tvis xelis SeSla, profesiul saqmiano-bisas Seuracxyofa saqarTvelos kanon-mdeblobiT dasjadia. Tumca, ramdena-dac Cven saqme gvaqvs konfliqtis zonas-
Tan da im teritoriebTan, romelic ar arissaqarTvelos mier kontrolirebadi, SeiZ-leba Seuferebeli iyos saqarTvelos kanon-mdeblobaze saubari. nebismier viTarebaSiJurnalistisTvis muSaobis dros xelis SeS-la dasjadi qmedebaa. miuxedavad imisa, mSvi-dobiani viTarebaa, omia, saprotesto msvle-lobaa Tu sxv.
_ ra icavs am dros Jurnalists?_ SeiZleba icavdes kanonmdebloba, sa-
damkvirveblo misia, korporacia, an is xal-xi, vinc masTan erTad moZraobs aseT rTuladgilas. Tu omSia Jurnalisti, am SemTxve-vaSi Zalian didi riskis qveS aris is. amdros rTulia saubari aseT garantiebze,zogadad riskis Semcveli profesiaa. gansa-kuTrebiT eqstremali JurnalistebisTvis,visTvisac es profesia pirdapir dakavSire-bulia saomar moqmedebasTan, konfliqtiszonebTan. vimeoreb, muSaobis dros Jurna-listebis dakaveba arc erT viTarebaSi ar
aris gamarTlebuli._ xelisuflebis moqmedeba, rogori unda iyos am
dros?_ ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebam unda gamoiyenos
yvela is resursi, romelic mis xelT aris, es iqnebadialogi, molaparakeba sxvadasxva doneze Tu a.S medarwmunebuli var, rom amgvari problemis gadasaWre-lad aseTi resursis gamoyeneba sakmarisi iqneba. pir-vel rigSi saxelmwifos is uwyeba unda CaerTos, romlissaqmec aris aRniSnuli problemis mogvareba. aucileb-lia aseT situaciaSi saerTaSoriso organizaciebi iy-vnen informirebulebi da CarTulebi. am situaciaSievrokavSiris sadamkvirveblo misiaa CarTuli, rome-lic konfliqtis zonaSi muSaobs. maTi cxeli xazis saSu-alebiT moxerxda swored JurnalistebTan kontaqti dainformaciis gadamowmeba. molaparakebebic maTi daxma-rebiT mimdinareobs. rogori iqneba zogadad saxelmwi-fos politikuri gancxadeba, sagareo uwyebis poziciaan midgoma am faqtisadmi, rogorc politikurad mniS-vnelovani ambisadmi, es ukve sxva sakiTxia.
damnaSaveebis moZebna daumkacresad dasja nacmoZmaparlamentis guSindelsxdomazec moiTxova.sainteresoa, ase aqtiuradvaleri gelaSvilis da kobadaviTaSvilis cemis faqtebisgamoZiebas ratom ariTxovdnen. an maSin sad iyvnen,akaki boboxiZem parlamentissxdomaze petre mamraZesmuSti rom Caartya.
maSin es yvelaferi moswondaT.axla ki iseTi ambavi aqvT atexili,TiTqos nugzar wiklauri pirvelideputatia, vinc gailaxa.
kolegis da TanamebrZolis ga-laxvis gamo guSin Tavi deputatmalevan beJaSvilma gainerviula. isaRSfoTebulia imis gamo, rom gamo-Zieba erTi nabijiTac ki ar wasulawin. man samarTaldamcavi organoe-bi saqmisadmi gulgril damokidebu-lebaSi daadanaSaula.
_ Cven es sakiTxi ramdenjermedavayeneT wina sesiebis ganmavloba-Si da Cveni kolegebisgan gvesmoda,rom samarTaldamcav organoebs sa-Sualeba unda mivceT saqme gamoiZi-on, xeli ar unda SevuSaloT, poli-tikuri sarCuli ar unda davudoTam saqmis gamoZiebas. gasuli dRee-bis ganmavlobaSi samarTaldamcaviorganoebis mier am saqmis gamoZiebi-sadmi midgoma gvafiqrebinebs, romSs saministro, prokurutura araris dainteresebuli am saqmis gamo-ZiebiT. mTeli am drois ganmavloba-Si gamoZieba erTi nabijiTac ar wa-sula win. Cven, albaT, momavalSi,kidev erTxel davayenebT droebiTisaparlamento sagamoZiebo komisiisSeqmnis sakiTxs parlamentSi, _ ga-nacxada aRSfoTebulma nacionalma.
misi azriT, Tu aseTi saqmeebidroulad ar iqna gamoZiebuli, qve-yanaSi usafrTxod Tavs veravin ig-rZnobs: amasTan usufaSvilma nacio-nalebs sxva deputatebis galaxvisfaqtebic gaaxsena.
_ qveyanaSi, sadac parlamen-tis wevris cemis, Tu sxva tipis fi-zikuri Seuracxyofis faqti ver iq-neba droulad gamoZiebuli, ver-cerTi Cveni moqalaqe igrZnobs TavsusafrTxod. kidev erTxel mivmar-Tav samarTaldamcvel organoebs,rom es sakiTxi Zalian swrafad iqnasgamoZiebuli da naTeli moefinosimas, Tu ra moxda baton nugzar wik-laurTan dakavSirebiT. imeds gamov-Tqvam, rom saqarTveloSi ar iqnebaiseTi dro, roca aseTi faqtebis ga-moZiebas 9 weli dasWirdeba. 9 wliTmivaniSneb imaze, rom amaswinaT gais-ma informacia, rom valeri gelaSvi-lis cemis faqti, rogorc Cans, malegaixsneba. Cven am darbazSi gvyavsparlamentis iseTi wevrebi, romle-bic wlebia, elodebian maT mimarTganxorcielebuli vandaluri faq-tebis gamoZiebas. visurvebdi, rommsgavsi faqtebi ar gamravldes darac SeiZleba male iyos gamoZiebu-li, _ aRniSna usufaSvilma.
nugzar wiklaurze Tavdasxmamimdinare wlis 31 marts gamTenii-sas ganxorcielda. misi TqmiT, di-lis 3 saaTze dabrunda saxlSi. sax-lTan mas daxvda 3 manqana, romelSicdaaxloebiT 7-8 adamiani ijda. de-
putati ambobs, rom yovelgvari Se-laparakebis gareSe daesxnen es pi-rebi Tavs da dauwyes cema. wiklau-ri darwmunebulia, rom maTi mizaniiyo is iZulebiT CaesvaT manqanaSi.
_ ramdenime dRis win saydri-sis midamoebis axlos axalgazrdeb-ma banaki gaSales da da dairqvessaydrisis dacvis komitetis wevre-bi. maT moiTxoves CemTan Sexvedra.guSinwin me mivedi maTTan. visac ve-saubre, sakmaod gonieri xalxi aR-moCnda, romelTac ara aqvT aranai-ri xilvebi, rom iq aucileblad oq-ros sabadoa, msoflio aRmoCnasTanaris saqme da a.S. isini iTxoven erTa-derTs, rom saerTaSoriso eqsper-tebma an daadasturon an gaabaTi-lon is kiTxvebi, romlebic maT aqvT.maT ar unaxavT is, ras icaven. meCavedi guSin im ormoSi, vnaxe speci-alistebTan erTad da unda giTxraT,rom veraviTari STabeWdileba Cem-ze ver moaxdina, albaT, rogorc di-letantze Tu am saqmis ucodinarze,magram verc specialistebze ver mo-axdina. miuxedavad amisa, me vTxovekompaniis warmomadgenlebs, sanam arCamovlen specialistebi (maisis SuaricxvebSi) da amaSi CarTulia kul-turuli memkvidreobis saagentoc,SeaCeros muSaoba da axalgazrde-bic mzad arian, rom datovon es bana-ki. aseve yuradRebiT arian, rom spe-kulaciis da romelime politikurjgufTan dakavSirebis sababi ar gax-
misi gancxadebiT, Zalian cu-dia, roca mTavroba kvercxis sro-lis maniiTaa Sepyrobili.
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arasamTavrobo organizaciam`saerTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba _saqarTvelo~ 16 aprils axali kvlevagamoaqveyna, romelicpreskonferenciaze waradgina, amkvlevaSi msxvili mediasaSualebebismflobelebi da maTi biznesinteresebikidev erTxel gaxda sajaro.
organizaciis media mkvlevari ana dab-rundaSvili `axal TaobasTan~ saubarSi ac-xadebs, rom TbilisSi dafuZnebuli erovnu-li mauwyeblebi gamoikvlia, ocze meti mediasaSualebaa, gamokvleulia mflobelebis biz-nesinteresebi, misi TqmiT, am kvlevis mizaniis iyo, rom gaerkviaT, ra gavlena SeiZlebamoaxdinos biznesma mediasaSualebaze. ar dad-ginda, kvlevis Sedegad Tu ra gavlenas axde-nen biznesmenebi media saSualebebze, magraminformaciis codna mainc saWiroa sazogado-ebisTvis imitom, rom potenciurad SeiZlebaromelime media saSualeba mikerZoebuli iyosda im kompaniis interesebs gamoxatavdes, rom-lis mflobelic am mediis mflobelia.
_ 2011 wels televiziebis mflobelo-ba gamWvirvale gaxda, viciT umetesoba imadamianebisa, romlebic media saSualebebsfloben. SeiZleba am adamianebs hqondeT gar-kveuli kavSiri politikaSi myof aqtiur su-bieqtebTan, magram dRes ver davadgineT, romes did problems warmoadgens. martis mona-cemebia, `rusTavi 2-~is erT-erTi mflobeligiorgi gegeSiZe martSi gardaicvala da sa-varaudod misi wilebi sxva adamianze gadava,jer es cvlileba sajaro reestrSi ar asaxu-la, _ acxadebs ana dabrundaSvili.
am kvlevebis ganxorcielebis dros da-
eyrdnen sajaro reestris monacemebs, media-Si gavrcelebul wyaroebs; ramdenime SemTxve-vaSi dazustda satelefono saubriT monace-mebi, skandaluri informaciebi am kvlevebiTar dafiqsirebula. miuxedavad imisa, rom ram-denime mediasaSualebis mesakuTres aqvs anhqonda garkveuli kavSiri mmarTvel koali-cia `qarTul ocnebasTan~ an amJamad opozi-ciaSi myof erTian nacionalur moZraobas-Tan, dReis monacemebiT qarTuli politikisaqtiuri subieqtebi ar floben, ar akontro-leben da ar afinanseben arc erT mxvil medi-asaSualebas.
mauwyeblobis sferoSi miRebuli Semo-savlebis 75% or satelevizio arxze nawil-deba: 2013 wlis meoTxe kvartalSi `rusTavi2~-is mier deklarirebulma Semosavlebma 15,2milioni lari Seadgina, telekompania `imed-ma~ da radio `imedma~ ki 8,5 milioni larisodenobis Semosavlebi miiRes. ori wamyvanierovnuli mauwyeblis `rusTavi 2~-sa da `ime-dis~ Semdeg sididiT mesame mauwyebeli `maes-troa~ 2,5 milioni lari, mas mohyveba radio`saqarTvelo~ 1,3 milioni lari da sakabelotelevizia `global media jgufi~ erTi mi-lioni lari.
bo seqtoris da prezidentis Sexved-ras Tqvenc eswrebodiT. rogoriaTqveni Sefasebebi am Sexvedris Sem-deg, ra prioritetebi dasaxeT, an rasafrTxeebze isaubreT?
_ prezidentma margvelaSvil-ma gamoTqva survili, rom Sexvedro-da arasamTavrobo seqtoris warmo-madgenlebs, eqspertebs da hqonodamaTTan gulwrfeli saubari, im saf-rTxeebTan dakavSirebiT, rac SeiZ-leba Cveni qveynisTvis drouli daseriozuli yuradRebis safuZveliyofiliyo. ocamde monawile iyo amSexvedraze, batoni prezidenti praq-tikulad msmenelis rolSi gamodio-da. im wina Sexvedrebisgan gansxvave-biT, rasac xelisuflebis umaRlesidonis pirebi atarebdnen aseT audi-toriasTan, SemiZlia vTqva, rom rai-me radikalurad gansxvavebuli az-rebi ar yofila, Sesabamisad arc mwva-ve diskusiis safuZveli iyo. miuxeda-vad gansxvavebuli poziciebisa, ro-melic warsulSi araerTxel dafiq-sirebula iq damswre pirebs Soris,es Sexvedra iyo, vityodi sruliadkonstruqciuli da safiqrali yve-las saerTo aRmogvaCnda.
_ da ra aris es saerTo safiq-rali?
_ es safiqrali ki exeba Cveniqveynis realobis da perspeqtivis ana-lizs. rasakvirvelia, ganxiluli iyo,rogorc sagareo, aseve saSinao saf-rTxeebi. Cveni sazogadoebis im nawi-lisTvis, visac urTierToba aqvs me-diasaSualebebTan, raime gansakuT-rebuli Tema, romelic aqamde ar gaJ-Rerebula da ar gaanalizebula, ase-Ti ar yofila. Tumca sakmaod Rrmaanalizi da argumentirebuli msje-loba, rogorc Tavad batonma prezi-dentma aRniSna, iyo misTvis Zalianinformaciuli da igi apirebs am for-matSi gaagrZelos am da sxva eqsper-tebTan urTierToba. rasakvirvelia,simwvave aklda im procesebis aRwe-ras, rasac Cven vakvirdebiT rusul-ukrainul urTierTobebSi. zogadadruseTis gavlenebis ganxilvisas, aramarto am saxelmwifos moqalaqeebze,aramed zogadad saerTaSoriso pro-cesebze da aqcenti iyo gakeTebulisaqarTvelosTvis mwvave Temebze. ise-Ti, rogoric aris okupirebuli te-ritoriebi, mexuTe kolonis gaaqti-ureba, aseve separatizmis safrTxe,ukanono referendumebisken swraf-va... dafiqsirda ramdenime gansxvave-buli wyarodan miRebuli informa-ciis analizis Semdeg, rom ukrainu-li recefti, ar aris gamoricxuli,rom iyos saqarTveloskenac mimarTu-li, vgulisxmob e.w. federalizaci-as da ukanono referendumebis mcde-lobas. aseTi scenaris prevenciis Se-saZleblobebze gvqonda saubari daCvenc miviReT prezidentisgan in-formacia, rom aseTi perspeqtivis aR-mkveTi qmedebebi ganixileba xelisuf-lebis Sesabamis StoebSi da saerTa-Soriso mxardaWera saqarTvelosad-
vilizaciuri diskomfortia plane-taze, rodesac ruseTis Temis gan-xilva mimdinareobs, am qveynis uti-fari xelisuflebis pirobebSi. sa-kiTxi idga imazec, unda yofiliyoTu ara Semdgari axali Sexvedra ka-rasin-abaSiZis formatSi? es iyo er-TaderTi sakiTxi, romelzec metnak-lebad gansxvavebuli pozicia arse-bobda am auditoriaSi, magram mevTvli, rom aseT viTarebaSi, pirvel-wyaroebidan nebismieri informaci-ebis mopoveba, aris upiratesi inte-resi. xolo gabutvis formebis mo-naxvas, Cven nebismier dros SevZlebT.me moxaruli var, rom arc erT eq-sperts ar hqonia mcdeloba, Camoeya-libebina raime sanqciebi, romelicsaqarTvelos ZaluZs, rom gamoiyenosruseTis winaaRmdeg. mxolod gam-Wvirvaloba, mxolod saerTaSorisoaqtivoba, mxolod simarTlis msaxu-reba iqna aRiarebuli im instrumen-tebad, romelic SeaZlebinebs saqar-Tvelos, daZlios wlevandeli gamow-vevebi, magram amave dros, araviTarSemTxvevaSi ar SeiZleba modunebuliqnes yuradReba, rogorc aRmasru-lebeli, aseve sakanonmdeblo orga-noebis, iseTi procesebis mimarT, ro-melic ukve dadasturebulad warmo-adgens wina pirobas, ufro didi in-tervenciisa, Cveni saxelmwifoebiswinaaRmdeg.
_ batono soso, rac Seexeba ar-Cevnebis Temas, vxedavT, rom arasa-parlamento opoziciaSi ZiriTadadsami jgufi gamoikveTa, rogorc iyovaraudebi, opoziciam gaerTianebaver SeZlo arCevnebisTvis... vis raSansebi aqvs da ras velodebiT am ar-Cevnebisgan?
_ am wina saarCevno kampaniamkidev erTxel dagvarwmuna, rom racavarT, ega varT. CemTvis namdviladmoulodneli iyo, rom ase martivaddairRveoda, rogorc `TavisufalisaqarTvelos~ partiis erTianoba,aseve mzaoba ama Tu im individisa,rom warmovidginoT igi Tbilisis me-rad. erTaderTi winsvla Cvens saar-Cevno procesSi gaxlavT is, rom 50-ze met kandidats, romelsac surda,rom gamxdariyo saqarTvelos prezi-denti, namdvilad veRar vxedavT Tbi-lisis merobis msurvelad da ZalianmokrZalebuli aTamde kandidati gve-yoleba albaT am Tanamdebobis maZi-eblad. Tumca sakiTxi albaT ufrodadgeba imaze, Tu opoziciuri speq-tridan, vis ufro xelewifeba konku-renciis reJimSi warmoCena, saxeli-suflebo kandidatis pirispir. opo-zicia, rasakvirvelia, rom yofili-yo erTiani, am SemTxvevaSi SesaZle-beli iyo ufro mkafio prognozire-ba meore turis. axla arc didi rao-denobis kandidati SeiZleba iyos er-Tturiani arCevnebis winapiroba, mag-ram vfiqrob, kandidatebi, romelTanawilic, rogorc Cans, mxolod saku-Tari nacnobebis imedad aris darCe-nili, rasakvirvelia, ver moimkianiseT Sedegs, rom ar dafiqrdnen meresamomavlod, rom erTxel da samuda-mod xeli aiRon aseT arCevnebSi mona-wileobisgan. Cvenc, sxvaTa Soris, zo-gi Wiri margebelias reJimSi dav-rwmundiT, rom ramdenime popularu-li lideri, ama Tu im Zalisa, mividaim daskvnamde, rom aRar unda mieRomonawileoba arCevnebSi, gamomdina-
re im Sedegebidan, rac maT miiRessaprezidento arCevnebSi. es ukve po-zitiuri gzavnilia sazogadoebis-ken, rom Turme damarcxebac aris gar-kveuli gonivruli nabijebis gadad-gmis mimaniSnebeli. me magaliTad mi-vesalmebi, rom garkveuli taimaute-bi politikur saqmianobaSi, ama Tuim politikosma gamoiyenos rogorcsanqcia sakuTari Tavis winaaRmdeg.
_ Tumca bevrma mainc ver daT-mo ambiciebi...
_ axala, rom giTxraT, rom so-liduri kandidaturebiT aris gaje-rebuli kandidatTa sia, ar viqnebigulwrfeli. faqtia, rom mxolod po-litikosebi arian warmodgenilni dapartiis wevrebi, igive Tbilisis me-ris kandidatebad. ar mgonia, rom sa-moqalaqo sazogadoebas ar hyavdesmaTi konkurenti pirebi, romelTawarmodgenasac SeZlebdnen, magrampartiuli cxovreba, rogorc Cans,iseT mimzidvelobas Seicavs, ris mi-marTac me wvdoma ar gamaCnia da ami-tom sainiciativo jgufebs saerTodCamoerTva uflebamosileba aseTi kan-didatebis warmodgenis. xolo par-tiis liderebs, mxolod sakuTariviwro partiuli TvalsawieriTuwevT kandidatebis SerCeva. es araris gadamwyveti, Sedegis miRebisas,magram faqtia, rom ufro mwiri gax-da arCevanis sivrce. darwmunebulivar, TiToeuli TviTmmarTveli qa-laqis mosaxleoba, Tavad rom yofi-liyo uflebamosili, rom warmoed-ginaT maTTvis misaRebi kandidate-bi, didi albaTobiT gaimarjvebdnenkidec sakuTari kandidatiT.
_ erT-erTi intriga, am arCev-nebis egec gaxlavT. rasakvirvelia,yvelgan amas isini ver moaxerxeben danu daviviwyebT, rom saprezidentoarCevnebze maTi warmateba, iyo Sede-
soso ciskariSvili: arCevnebze
areuloba nacionalebis interesebSi ar Sedis~gi ara mxolod maTi aq-tiobisa, aramed im loi-alobisa, romelsac mmar-Tveli politikuri ZalaiCenda TavianTi dauZi-nebeli megobrebis mi-marT. dRes situacia Se-darebiT gansxvavebulia,TavisTavad xasiaTi ad-gilobrivi arCevnebisa,romelic mTavrdeba ro-melime erTi an ori pi-ris arCeviT, aramed aqsakrebuloebis Temaa,Semdgom gamgeobebis daase Semdeg, CarTulobamosaxleobis bevrad uf-ro vrcelia da amdenadufro zust suraTs mivi-RebT ganwyobebisas, racarsebobs realuraddRes qarTvel sazoga-doebaSi. am SemTxvevaSi,nacionaluri moZraobisamocana rTuldeba, rad-gan Tu isini daeyrdno-bian mxolod kritikultaqtikas, ZalauneburadaRmoCndebian bumeran-gis wesiT Tavadve pasu-xismgebelni, gamomdina-
re iqidan, rom umal asocirdebianxelisuflebad, radgan ganvlili 9weliwadi, rac ar unda visaubroTwarmatebul Sedegebze im periodi-sa, mosaxleobis mier aseTad aRqmu-li ar aris da kritika nacionalurimoZraobis mxridan dRevandeli xe-lisuflebis raionebSi SeiZleba iq-nes aRqmuli, rogorc komplimentiqarTuli ocnebis. arc im azrs vizia-reb, rom SfoTi arCevnebze da raimetipis areulobebi, ramac SeiZlebamiiyvanos arCevnebi negatiur Sefa-sebebamde Cveni dasavleli megobre-bisgan, Sediodes nacionaluri moZ-raobis interesebSi. es sakiTxi didigamadidebeli SuSis mier iqneba gaa-nalizebuli ara mxolod qarTvelidamkvirveblebis mxridan da garkve-uli lakmusis qaRaldis rols Seas-rulebs es arCevnebi da gveqneba mka-fio pasuxi kiTxvaze, ra aris upirve-lesi prioriteti nacionaluri moZ-raobis? winsvla evropuli da evro-atlantikuri sivrcisken, Tu saku-Tari Tavis dabinaveba yvelaze sa-natrel saxelisuflo savarZlebSi?!
_ sazogadoebaSi aris ganwyo-ba, rom am arCevnebis Semdeg uaxloesperiodSi aucileblad unda dadgesdRis wesrigSi vadamdeli saparla-mento arCevnebis sakiTxi. ramdenadiqneba es SesaZlebeli, an amis mzao-bas Tu xedavT xelisuflebaSi?
_ me mgoni, saukeTeso dro, va-damdeli saparlamento arCevnebisa,praqtikulad xelidan iqna gaSvebu-li, vgulisxmob 2013 wlis oqtombersda 2014 wlis ivniss. axla, roca ukvenaxevari gasulia, aseT viTarebaSiwina saparlamento arCevnebidan dajer isic ver gadauwyvetiaT, sad ga-agrZelon muSaoba _ quTaisSi Tu Tbi-lisSi, unda davfiqrdeT jer sxvaprioritetebze, rasac hqvia qveynisstabiluroba da axali agresiis Ta-vidan acileba. metnaklebi simSvidisaucileblobaa saparlamento arCev-nebis wina periodSi, dRevandel pi-robebSi ara mgonia, rom es saukeTe-so dro iyos. davakvirdeT, mzakvro-bis ra instrumentebs gamoamJRavnebsCveni Crdiloeli mezobeli Cven mi-marT da ra tipis reagireba eqneba amgamowvevebze, rogorc arsebul xe-lisuflebas, ise aqtiur opozicias.
muxran maWavariani sxvadasxva wlebSi iyoJurnal `pioneri~-s mTavari redaqtori, Jur-nal `dilis~ mTavari redaqtori, almanax `sa-unjis~ mTavari redaqtori, saqarTvelos mwe-ralTa kavSiris Tavmjdomare. misi pirvelileqsebi gamoqveynda universitetis litera-turuli wris yovelwliur almanaxSi `pirve-li sxivi~, misi pirveli wigni ki iyo `leqsebi~.poetis ori krebuli `wiTeli mze da mwvanebalaxi~ da `siCume uSenod~ rusulad evgenievtuSenkom Targmna. am krebulisaTvis qarTvelpoets axalgazrdobisa da studentTa VII msof-lio festivalis laureatis wodeba mieniWa.
muxran maWavarianis leqsebi Targmnilia ru-sul, inglisur, germanul, frangul, bulga-rul, Cexur da sxva enebze. muxran maWavariani 4wlis win gardaicvala. is rusTavelis Teat-rSi poet fridon xalvaSis 85-e wlisTavisadmimiZRvnil saRamoze sityviT gamodioda, rode-sac scenaze SeuZlod gaxda, waiqca da gulisSeteviT Teatris did scenaze gardaicvala.eqimebis didi Zalisxmevis miuxedavad misi ga-darCena ver moxerxda. poeti mTawmindis mwe-ralTa da sazogado moRvaweTa panTeonSi no-dar dumbaZisa da iakob nikolaZis saflavebisgverdiT dakrZales.
guram odiSaria, kulturis ministri:_ Zalian bevrma viciT misi leqsebi da
gavizardeT mis Semoqmedebaze, magram ar vi-ciT batoni muxranis meore mxare, amaSi dagvex-mareba is Canawerebi, romelic am krebulSiaSetanili. es meore mxare swored am wignSigamoCndeba. Zalian didi siurprizi elis mkiT-xvels, es iqneba erTgvari dResaswauli. es ga-mocema aris saSualeba imisa, rom sxvanairadgavicnoT es didebuli poeti da sazogado moR-vawe.
nana maWavariani, poetis qaliSvili:_ es wigni Seiqmna muxran maWavarianis
arqivze dayrdnobiT. amovkrifeT misi cxovre-bis sxvadasxva momentis amsaxveli masala, aqam-de gamouqveynebeli werilebi, azrebi leqswyo-bis Taobaze, sxvadasxva cxovrebiseuli movle-nis Taobaze. am wignSi yvelaferi gavaerTia-neT da migvaCnia, rom mamas pirovnebis danaxvaase mkiTxvelisTvis kidev ufro sainteresoiqneba.
_ Tqven warmoidgineT, es mat-Cebi bundesligas ar ukavSirdeba.ori TamaSs gamovyof: pirveli, Sal-kem~ CempionTa ligaze psv-s 3:0 mougoda samive me gavitane. meore ki saqar-Tvelos nakrebma bolo wuTebze xor-vatiis nakrebs 0:1 mougo da maSinacgoli me gavitane.
_ Cveni TamaSi ver viTamaSeTrac unda gveTamaSa da brZolisuna-rianoba gvaklda. iyo darCenili mxo-lod Teoriuli Sansi, romlis gamo-yenebac ver movaxerxeT. saqme ar undamidiodes iqamde, rom Teoriul San-sze viyoT damokidebulebi.
_ ra Tqma unda, gundis jgu-fur etapze gamosvliT kmayofilebiar varT, me piradad ar var kmayofi-li. albaT TavSia problema, mwvrTne-lebSi, xolo danarCenSi gundma vermoaxerxa xasiaTis gamovlena. sadacsaWiro iyo iq ver gamoaCines es xasi-aTi. mesame problema, ra Tqma unda,saTamaSo disciplinis arqona iyo _araerTxel davisajeT amis gamo. ammizezebis gamo, ver SevasruleT is,rac gvqonda dagegmili da es gamoc-da ver CavabareT. am TamaSebiT gamoC-nda albaT Tu ra doneze varT am mo-mentSi.
giorgi niJaraZe, ragbis kavSi-ris prezidenti:
_ es iyo sruli Cavardna _ esnakrebi Cavarda! es aris yvelas bra-li, CemiT dawyebuli da moTamaSee-biT damTavrebuli. Zalian bevri gvaqsafiqrali, raTa mivagnoT im mize-zebs, ris gamoc moxda es! ra komenta-ri unda gavakeTo, rodesac turni-ris mosagebad CamovediT da mexuTeadgilisaTvis gviwevs ukve TamaSi daiqac ras vizamT ar viciT da ese TugavargrZelebT, verc im TamaSs movi-gebT. rac am TamaSs Seexeba _ orma
ramem ganapiroba es Sedegi: pirveli_ dubaeli msajis msajoba, romelmacmokla TamaSi Tavidan, Tumca Cven vaf-rTxilebdiT moTamaSeebs, rom msa-joba cudi iqneboda. meore _ im iSvi-aT momentebSi, rodesac Cven gvqonda
burTi, bevrjer salelove Setevisganxorcieleba SegveZlo, magram xangvivardeboda burTi, xan jarimas vi-kidebdiT da xan autebs vagebdiT. al-baT umTavresad es aris mentaluriproblemebi _ rogorc sCans, fsiqo-logiuri problemebi gvaqvs axalgaz-rda TaobebSi da amaze Zalian serio-zulad unda vifiqroT. mere Cven Tav-Si unda veZeboT Secdomebi. unda dav-sxdeT, vifiqroT, movZebnoT es mize-zebi Tu ratom moxda ase da gamovas-woroT. cxovreba ar mTavrdeba amiT!Cven aravis ar gvaq emociebze ayolisufleba. uaRresad TviTkritikuladunda davsxdeT da vifiqroT. is raze-dac bevri unda vimuSaoT aris moTa-maSeebis fsiqologiuri momzadeba damaTi personaluri pasuxismgeblobisgrZnoba. es aris jer jerobiT udi-desi problema, romelic fsiqolo-giidan gamomdinareobs _ upasuxis-mgebloba da dabali disciplina.
moTamaSeebis fsiqologiurproblemebze ukve giTxariT da teqni-kur mxareebze vimsjelebT. unda ga-varkvioT sad davuSviT Secdomebi daTu rogor unda gamovasworoT es, nam-dvilad viciT: axleburad amuSavde-ba ragbis erovnuli akademia; dageg-milia bevri matCebis gamarTva. 19-wlamdelebi maisSi wavlen inglisSida or Sexvedras gamarTaven sagrafo-ebis 20-wlamdelTa nakrebTan. agvis-tos bolos safrangeTSi, klermonSiCatardeba turniri, sadac Cveni 19-wlamdelebi Sexvdebian klermonis,mansTerisa da lensTeris 20-wlamde-lebis gundebs. oqtomberSi ukve gai-marTeba 19-wlamdelTa evropis Cempi-onati. amiT mTel naxevar weliwadsmovandomebT am TaobasTan, 19-wlam-delebTan seriozul muSaobas. albaTunda avirCioT ara marto is vinc sau-keTeso moTamaSe aris, aramed is visacyvelaze myari fsiqika aqvs da vincmebrZolia, meomaria da piradi pasu-xismgeblobis grZnoba gaaCnia.
da bolos, mTeli Cveni gundissaxeliT, bodiSs vuxdi gulSematkiv-rebs, rom ase gavawbileT!
`deili meilis~ Jurnalistiadriun diurami ori did kapitansada inglisuri fexburTis legendasadarebs _ saubaria stiven jerardsada jon terize... diurami wers: je-rardi Tu teri? erT-erTi maTganiaris kapitani, lideri, suli da gu-li, meore ki jon teri!
_ me araerTxel davwere, Turatom minda ase Zalian mersisaidel-Ta Cempionoba da sxva Tu araferi,`sitisTanac~ daamtkices, rom imsa-xureben. brendan rojersi SesaniS-nav, momxiblav fexburTs aTamaSebsgunds, `enfild droudze~, rogorcyovelTvis, udidesi atmosferoa, su-aresi glijavs, iseT formaSia, je-rardi ki udidesi kapitania! teric,ra Tqma unda, udidesi fexburTelida legendaa, Tumca vfiqrob, iseTiqarizma da suliskveTeba ar aqvs, ro-goric stivi jis!
vinc uyura `liverpulisa~ da`manCester sitis~ (3:2) mSvenier Ta-maSs, naxavdiT, bolos ra gaakeTa je-rardma: jer iyo da, cremli waskda,mere ki gundi Sekra da warmosTqva,axla ki movigeT, magram `norviCTa-nac~ iseTive TamaSi unda vaCvenoTo!
Tumca, ar unda dagvaviwydes`manCester siti~, romelsac ori mat-CiT naklebis aqvs Catarebuli da me-toqeTa fexis dacdenas elodeba, ra-Ta Cempionis titulisken gawios.
diuramis ra mogaxsenoT, mag-ram sadReisod yvelaze realuri San-si jer `liverpuls~ aqvs, Semdeg _`sitis~ da bolos _ `Celsis~. Tumca,yvelaferi Tavad gundebzea damoki-debuli.
sainteresoa, rom saqarTvelos erov-nuli gundis mwvrTneli maka CaxnaSvili-ran-cingeria, romelsac saTamaSo kariera jeracar dausrulebia. ana tatiSvilis mier ameri-kis moqalaqeobis Semdeg, nakrebis pirveliCogani ki SafaTava gaxlavT, visac ganaxle-bul reitingSi me-200 adgili ukavia.
me-2 jgufis gundebis warmomadgenel-Ta Soris saukeTeso maCveneblebi Cernogori-el danka koviniCs (140-e) da lixtenSatinelStefani vogts (152-e) gaaCniaT. Cernogorie-lebi da lixtenStainelebi a jgufSi maspin-Zel litvasTan da fineTTan erTad iTamaSe-ben.
SegaxsenebT, rom turniris formatisTanaxmad, jgufebis pirvel-meore adgilos-nebi jvaredini sistemiT naxevarfinalebSidawyvildebian, finalistebi ki 2015 wlis-Tvis pirvel jgufSi TamaSis uflebas moipo-veben. 8 nakrebidan 2 uaresi ki, sagaisod me-3jgufSi daqveiTdeba.
misi TqmiT, registracia ganxorcieldeba sam etapad.pirveli etapi daiwyeba 23 aprils da dasruldeba 2 maiss. esetapi ganxorcieldeba mxolod zogadsaganmanaTleblo sko-lebSi da daregistrirdebian is moswavleebi, romlis da an Zmaswavlobs am skolaSi; romlis mSobelic skolis TanamSromeliada romlis ojaxidanac ori an orze meti bavSvi Sedis pirvelklasSi.
moxdeba am organos SenarCu-neba iseTi saxiT, rogoric arisdRes Tu marTlac Seicvleba raimedevnili mosaxleobis moTxovnis Se-sabamisad, es momavalSi gairkveva.
_ batono roin, zog devnilsmiaCnia, rom unda moxdes afxazeTislegitimuri xelisuflebis reor-ganizacia. maTi azriT, deputate-bis nawili aralegitimuradaa Sey-vanili umaRlesi sabWos Semadgen-lobaSi. maT surT umaRlesi sabWosSevseba devnilTa yrilobis mier ar-Ceuli deputatebiT. Tqvenc ase fiq-robT?
uwyves da sabolood afxazeTidangamogvaZeves. mas Semdeg 23 weli ga-vida, ras akeTeben xelfasis aRebisgarda.
_ bolo periodSi afxazeTisumaRles sabWoSi Sida arCevnebi Ca-tarda.
_ afxazeTis umaRles sabWo-Si bolo periodSi raRac arCevnebiCatarda. devnilebi saerTod ararian informirebuli, am organo-Si arCevnebi Catarda Tu ara. saer-Tod Catarda Tu ara arCevnebi, isicar vici. iq arc qvorumia, arc ara-vin midis.
_ ara mgonia, qvorumi ar iyos.ubralod, zogs miaCnia, rom iq de-putatTa nawili, romelic dResumaRles sabWoSia, kanonierad araris Seyvanili.
_ SeiZleba, magram 23 weliaiq sxedan. maT ar aqvT legitimacia.arCevnebi unda Catardes. es orga-no aris yvelanairad aralegitimu-ri. afxazeTis umaRlesi sabWo arismkvdari da ar gvaZleven dasafla-vebis uflebas. SevardnaZes eseniawyobda, saakaSvilsac awyobda daSeiZleba am xelisuflebasac awyobs.
_ batono roin, erT dros mecmimaCnda, rom politikuri mizanSe-wonilobidan da im viTarebidan ga-momdinare, rac dRemde aris omisSemdeg afxazeTSi, afxazeTidan dev-nili legitimuri xelisufleba un-da yofiliyo, radgan ver xerxdeba,realurad, axali legitimuri ar-Cevnebis Catareba am teritoriaze.kanonier arCevnebzea saubari, ro-melSic afxazeTis mTeli mosaxle-oba (omamdeli demografiulimdgomareobis aRdgeniT) miiRebsmonawileobas. amitomac unda yo-filiyo aqeTac devnili legitimu-ri organo. Tqven es argumentad armigaCniaT?
_ es aranairi argumenti araris. 23 weli gavida. maSin 15 wlismozardi rom iyo, axla 38-40 wli-saa. man, saerTod, ar icis umaRlesisabWos arseboba. romel legitimu-robazea laparaki. vis axsovs, saer-Tod, romel raionSi iyo arCevnebi,sad airCies es xalxi. konstitucia-Si weria, rom 3 wliT irCeva. eseniki 23 welia sxedan am organoSi.
_ es organo TqvenTvis samar-Talmemkvidreobisa da legitimaci-is matarebeli ar aris, Tu mTlia-nad aralegitimurad migaCniaT? ma-Ti nawili mainc xom Tavis droze iqnamdvilad iyo arCeuli da namdvi-lad gamodevnilia afxazeTidanomis dros?
_ afxazeTis ministrTa sabWosxva organoa. axla maT umaRlesisabWos wevri daniSnes Tavmjdoma-red. sxva daeniSnaT. amis win sulaxalgazrda kaci iyo. ministrTasabWos Tavmjdomare Tu monawile-obs Jenevis molaparakebebSi, amasumaRles sabWosTan araferi kavSi-ri ar aqvs. me vlaparakob arCeviTorganoze. vaxtang yolbaia Tu mo-nawileobs Jenevis molaparakebeb-Si, es arafers ar niSnavs. iq axal-gazrda unda gauSvan. axalgazrde-bi unda Sexvdnen erTmaneTs. es or-gano saWiro ar aris. arCeuli undaiyos axalgazrdebis jgufi, romel-sac vendobiT da davavalebT gar-kveuli funqciis Sesrulebas. afxa-zeTSi axalgazrdebi unda dabrun-dnen da iq maT unda icxovron. afxa-zeTis umaRles sabWoSi 75-80 welsmiaxloebuli xalxi hyavT, romel-sac aravin icnobs devnili mosax-leobidan.
_ migaCniaT, rom afxazeTisumaRlesi sabWo mTlianad unda ga-uqmdes, Tu reorganizacia unda mox-des. Sedegad, nawili, vinc kanonie-radaa umaRles sabWoSi, darCeba,xolo danarCeni adgilebi devnil-Tagan arCeuli kontingentiT Seiv-seba?
_ es aris ukanono organiza-cia. Tqven ambobT, rom iq airCies daimaTi samarTalmemkvidrea. aranai-ri samarTalmemkvidreoba ar arse-bobs. umaRlesi sabWo arCeviTi or-ganoa da unda airCes ramdenimewliT. es organo arCeuli iyo ram-denime wliT da didi xania vada ga-uvida.
_ mogexsenebaT, arCevnebi arCatarda imis gamo, rom moxda Zala-dobrivad am nawilis gamoZeveba af-xazeTidan. rogor moqmedebdnen, ra-ime brali miuZRviT Tu ara maT af-
xazeTSi ganviTarebul procesebSida mis SeqmnaSi, es sxva sakiTxia,magram faqtia, rom isini gamoZeve-buli arian da Zaladobrivad Se-Cerda am organos moqmedeba.
Tavis mxriv, natos genera-luri mdivani anders fog rasmu-seni acxadebs, rom aliansi ar ga-nixilavs ukrainisaTvis samxed-ro ZaliT daxmarebis sakiTxs,Tumca aRniSnavs, rom mas imediaqvs, rom ukrainaSi Seqmnili kri-zisi diplomatiuri gziT mog-vardeba.
`samxedro variantebs arganvixilavT. gvjera, rom sworigza win aris politikuri da dip-lomatiuri gadawyvetilebispovna~,_ ganacxada man luqsembur-gSi.
misive TqmiT, ukrainis mo-mavali mxolod da mxolod ukra-inelma xalxma unda gadawyvitos.
`putini evropis uZlure-basa da ukrainis sisusteze Tama-Sobs. Zaladobis winaSe, oridanerT-erTi unda amoirCio: kapi-tulacia, an winaaRmdegoba, imisgaTvaliswinebiT, rom dalurje-bebi ar agcdeba~, _ wers gazeTi.
wmindanad Seracxul gri-gol feraZeze filmi msaxiobisqaliSvilma maka burdulma ga-daiRo, romelsac Tavisi stiliaqvs da filmebs fotoefeqtiTawyobs. misi filmebi monawile-obdnen sxvadasxva saerTaSori-
so kinofestivalebSi damTavar prizebs imsaxureb-dnen.