1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1375 gentlemen. You can be seated and we're ready to resume. Ms. Corey, your next witness. MS. COREY: Thank you, Your Honor. The state calls Andrew Williams. THE COURT: Andrew Williams, please. Good afternoon, Mr. Williams. If you'll come all the way to the front here for me, please, sir, and if you'll raise your right hand the clerk will administer the oath to you. ANDREW WILLIAMS, having been produced and first duly sworn as a witness on behalf of the State, testified as follows: THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: All right, sir. If you'll come right around here and have a seat for me and be sure to kind of speak directly into that microphone nice and loud so everybody can hear you, all right? THE WITNESS: Yes, sir. THE COURT: Thank you very much. Ms. Corey. MS. COREY: Yes, Your Honor. DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. COREY: Q State your name for the record. A Andrew Williams. Q In which city and county do you reside?
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gentlemen. You can be seated and we're ready to
resume. Ms. Corey, your next witness.
MS. COREY: Thank you, Your Honor. The state
calls Andrew Williams.
THE COURT: Andrew Williams, please. Good
afternoon, Mr. Williams. If you'll come all the
way to the front here for me, please, sir, and if
you'll raise your right hand the clerk will
administer the oath to you.
ANDREW WILLIAMS,
having been produced and first duly sworn as a witness
on behalf of the State, testified as follows:
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT: All right, sir. If you'll come
right around here and have a seat for me and be
sure to kind of speak directly into that microphone
nice and loud so everybody can hear you, all right?
THE WITNESS: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Thank you very much. Ms. Corey.
MS. COREY: Yes, Your Honor.
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. COREY:
Q State your name for the record.
A Andrew Williams.
Q In which city and county do you reside?
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A Jacksonville, Duval County.
Q In November of 2012 where did you reside?
A Jacksonville in Duval County.
Q What was your occupation at that time?
A I was a cabinet installer.
Q I'm sorry?
A A cabinet installer.
Q Yes, sir. Were you married at that time?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q What is your wife's name?
A Melissa Williams.
Q And what specific area, not an address, but
in what specific area of town did you live?
A Baymeadows.
Q And with whom were you living?
A My wife.
Q And anyone else?
A No, ma'am.
Q Let me take your attention to Thanksgiving
weekend of 2012. Were you in town for that
Thanksgiving weekend?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And on the Friday after Thanksgiving were you
off that day?
A Yes, ma'am.
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Q And do you recall in the evening hours
starting around -- let's start around 7:00 o'clock.
What were your plans for that evening?
A To take two teenagers that went to our church
to a -- their first date, the movie and dinner.
Q Were you and your wife the chaperons for
those teenagers?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And where did you intend to go to dinner?
A I want to say I think we were going to go to
the Avenues Mall, I believe, to eat dinner.
Q And which way would you normally drive from
your home to the Avenues Mall?
A Baymeadows to Southside Boulevard down
Southside Boulevard.
Q And were you and Mrs. Williams in the car at
that time?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Did you have the three teenagers with you?
A Two.
Q Two. I'm sorry. Where were they sitting?
A Back seat.
Q And was it your intention to head directly to
dinner?
A Yes, ma'am.
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Q Were you going to make any stops at that
time?
A No, ma'am.
Q And then where would the movies have been
after that?
A Tinseltown.
Q So you would have been -- would you have been
coming back up Southside Boulevard heading north?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Prior to the time when you got to the
intersection of Baymeadows Road and Southside
Boulevard, have you been through that intersection
before?
A Several times.
Q Are you very familiar with that intersection?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Are you familiar with the Gate Gas Station
which sits on the northeast corner?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Okay. And have you pulled into that Gate Gas
Station before?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q All right. At approximately 7:30 or several
minutes thereafter were you near that intersection?
A Yes, ma'am.
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Q And in which direction were you traveling on
Baymeadows Road from your home?
A I think it's west.
Q Okay. And so when you got to the Gate Gas
Station, did you hear or see anything unusual right at
that time?
A Yes.
Q All right. No. I'm talking about when you
first pulled up.
A Oh, no.
Q All right. Which lane were you in to turn to
go to the restaurant?
A The second or the firsthand left turn lane.
Q You would have been heading south then on
Southside Boulevard?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And describe your vehicle.
A Blue Honda CR-V.
Q Where were you sitting?
A Driver's seat.
Q Where was your wife sitting?
A Passenger seat.
Q Where were the teenagers?
A In the back seat.
Q Were your windows up or down?
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A Up.
Q Describe the weather conditions.
A Dark and I believe it was a bit chilly.
Q Okay. Was it raining at all?
A Not that I remember.
Q Was there any thunder or any other weather
noise to obstruct your hearing?
A Not that I remember, no, ma'am.
Q Describe the flow of traffic at that
intersection. Have you been through that intersection
at various times?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And does the traffic flow vary with different
times of the day?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q On this particular holiday or this particular
afternoon on Friday evening what was it like?
A Dead, nothing going on.
Q Outside of normal traffic noise was there any
other loud noise such as a car alarm, store alarm or
anything else while you were at that intersection?
A No, ma'am.
Q Were you the first car waiting to turn left
on that inside lane?
A Yes, ma'am.
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Q What was the noise level inside of your own
car?
A Talking, just conversation between me and the
teenagers.
Q What did you hear while you were at that red
light?
A Noises, sounded like -- one of the teenagers
actually said is that fireworks and I was like, no,
that's gunfire.
Q You called it gunfire?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Did you recognize it at such -- as such when
you heard it?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q How many shots did you hear fire?
A Several, more than five, less than ten.
Q Okay. And what did you do when you heard
those shots?
A Turned around.
Q And how did you make that turn?
A Made a left-hand turn like as if I was going
to be going towards the Avenues Mall and made a U-turn
to go back up Southside Boulevard.
Q On your monitor the state will show you
state's exhibit 3 in evidence and I want to ask you,
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sir, is that a picture that you can use to show the
jurors where you were?
A Yeah.
Q All right. If you touch that screen a mark
should come up and can you just show them approximately
where you were at the intersection?
A Right there.
Q Okay. And go ahead and draw the U-turn that
you did.
A (Marks photograph.)
Q And then what did you do after that to get
into the Gate Gas Station?
A Draw it?
Q You can draw it, yes.
A (Marks photograph.)
Q How did you know the shots had come from that
direction?
A Just heard it. It sounded like it come from
that direction.
Q Why did you go back to the Gate Gas Station?
A I don't know. Something inside me told me to
go.
Q Were you going to try to help if you were
needed?
A Yes.
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Q Where did you pull in at the Gate Gas
Station?
A I pulled into the first gas pump to the left
in the gas station.
Q All right. Just show the jurors. Just touch
that photo as to where you first pulled in.
A (Marks photograph.)
Q Was it dark outside? Was it nighttime?
A Yes.
Q Were the Gate Gas Station lights on?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Was it fairly well lit?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And when you pulled in, where did you
specifically park your car?
A Right there where that dot is there's a pump
right under it. I don't remember what pump it was or
anything.
Q Sir, did you see anything obvious that could
be connected to the shooting when you stopped your car?
A When I was pulling in a car was pulling out
pretty quickly.
Q Describe that car.
A It was a small car. I don't know exactly the
make and model or color. I wasn't really paying
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attention to it. Just kind of pulled out very quickly
and I pulled in.
Q All right. Did you ever see that car again
that evening?
A No, ma'am.
Q All right. Then after that what took your
attention to anything else going on at the Gate Gas
Station?
A There was a red vehicle, SUV, backing up from
the vicinity of the other shops, pulled into a spot in
front of the gas station and there was a young man that
got out and was very upset.
Q All right. First let me ask you to show the
jurors what you mean by the vicinity of the other
shops. Point to that and then draw an arrow.
A (Marks photograph.)
Q Okay. And in which direction did the car --
you say it was in reverse backing up?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. And where did it back to?
A (Marks photograph.) Parking spot right
there.
Q And were you out of your vehicle at this
time?
A No. I was in my vehicle. I just put it into
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park and I saw it backing out.
Q What did you see next?
A I pulled in forward into the parking spot. A
young man got out very upset.
Q Do you recall which side of the car the young
man got out?
A I believe it was the driver.
Q Did you see any type of weapon in that young
man's hands at all?
A No.
Q Did you see any weapons coming out of that
vehicle being thrown anywhere?
A No.
Q Did you have a clear view of the driver when
he got out of the red vehicle?
A His side, no. I mean I saw the door open and
I saw his head but I was on the opposite side of the
vehicle.
Q Did you see him make any throwing noise --
noises -- throwing gestures towards the bushes near his
vehicle?
A No, ma'am.
Q Did you hear or see any other occupants of
the vehicle at that particular time?
A I heard them.
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Q What did you hear?
A Upsetness. One of the young men was yelling
he's not moving.
Q I'm sorry. You're going to need to speak up.
I don't know if it's the microphone. I'm having a hard
time. Just -- go ahead. What did you hear him say
next or what did you hear the young man say?
A One of the young men was saying he's not
moving.
Q He's not moving?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Did you know at that point in time to whom
they were referring?
A No.
Q What did you do then?
A Walked up to the car to see what was going
on.
Q All right. Did you have any concerns at all
that someone inside that car was going to hurt you?
A No.
Q What happened?
A I pulled up to the car. There was a young
man that had been hit. I checked for a pulse. There
was another young man that was crying saying he wasn't
moving and --
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Q Can you describe in a little more detail how
the young man who you said wasn't moving, where was he
in relation to the other young man and in which seat in
the car were they?
A I believe it was the passenger side or the
driver's side rear and the young man was holding him
and just saying he's not moving.
Q Rear seat?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And on the driver's side. Did you know the
young man that was sitting there?
A No, ma'am.
Q And where was the other young man in relation
to that young man?
A The passenger side.
Q Okay. Was he sitting upright?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q The person on the passenger side?
A They were kind of stuck together. I mean I
don't know if he was straight up.
Q Humped together?
A Yeah.
Q And what did you do at that point?
A I checked for a pulse. I didn't feel one. I
looked over my shoulder and there was an officer that
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had pulled up.
Q Okay. Were you coming in through the
driver's side of the vehicle to try to give aid?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q What was your training that made you believe
you could give at least some aid initially?
A I was a junior lifeguard growing up and just
done different things. I was actually at the time
looking into doing E.M.T..
Q Short of basic C.P.R. did you know any other
lifesaving techniques?
A Other than, you know, put pressure on it, no,
ma'am.
Q Okay. Now did you help try to render any
further aid to the young man that was not moving?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And how did you do that?
A I went up to the officer that had pulled on
to the scene. I asked for gloves so I could assess the
situation. I walked over. I again felt for a pulse.
Didn't feel one. Asked the officer to come over and
help me pull him out to where we could get him on the
ground to start C.P.R. or start trying to put pressure
on the wounds until the paramedics got there.
Q All right. So the paramedics were not there
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yet, is that correct?
A No, ma'am.
Q And did that officer assist you?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And did you attempt some sort of lifesaving
efforts while that young man was on the ground?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q And did you know that young man?
A No, ma'am.
Q Did you know any of the young man in that --
in that red vehicle, any of the young men in that red
vehicle?
A No, ma'am.
Q Did you know the officer who pulled up?
A No, ma'am.
Q And at what point did Jax Fire and Rescue
arrive?
A After we pulled him out probably about maybe
five minutes.
Q Is that your estimate of the time?
A Yes, ma'am. I'm not positive the exact time.
Q Did you ever see any signs of life in the
young man that you had pulled out of that red car?
A No, ma'am.
Q Did you ever hear him utter anything?
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A No, ma'am.
Q Could you tell whether or not he was even
breathing when you pulled -- you and the officer pulled
him out of the car?
A He had no pulse and he was not -- and it did
not look like he was breathing.
Q And the other young man who was in the back
seat with him, did you know his name?
A No, ma'am.
Q And what did he do when you all pulled the
gentleman out of the car? What did that other young
man do?
A Just kind of stood to the side and watched.
Q What was his demeanor at that time?
A Very shook up.
Q I'm sorry?
A Very shook up.
Q Did you see any tears on any of those young
men?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q On how many of them?
A All of them.
Q Okay. Did you ever hear them express any
anger towards anyone, much less the person who had shot
their friend?
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A No, ma'am.
Q Did you ever hear them use any curse words
towards anyone?
A Not that I recall.
Q Did you hear any curse words towards the
shooter?
A No, ma'am.
Q Did you ever even know who the shooter was at
that time?
A No, ma'am.
Q We're going to show you one last picture
which is in evidence as state's exhibit 8, and I would
just like for you to show the jurors -- just ignore the
tagging. That's a composite exhibit for later, but
does this picture sort of depict where the car was when
you walked up to it?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Do you recall if the driver's doors were open
or closed?
A As I said I think when the driver door opened
when he got out.
Q All right. Can you show the jurors the area
where you and the officer laid this young man on the
ground?
A (Marks photograph.)
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Q All right. Did you leave anything of your
own there at the scene?
A No, ma'am.
Q And then once rescue arrived, did you back
away and let them and law enforcement take over the
scene?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Did you stay at the Gate Gas Station to tell
police just what you knew of what happened?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Now, sir, there is a sidewalk with what
appears to be some hedges right behind the yellow post.
Do you see that area?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Do you recall seeing any weapons anywhere in
that area?
A No, ma'am.
Q And at any point when you looked into the car
or reached into the red car did you ever see or feel
anything that you felt could be a weapon?
A No, ma'am.
MS. COREY: May I have just a moment with
co-counsel?
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am.
MS. COREY: That's all I have for this
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witness, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
Mr. Strolla, cross.
MR. STROLLA: Thank you, Your Honor.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. STROLLA:
Q Mr. Williams, while you were giving C.P.R. to
Jordan Davis, what was Tommie Stornes doing?
A Walking around with his hands on his head.
Q Well, how could you be watching Tommie
Stornes if your mouth is on Jordan Davis's mouth and
your hands are on Jordan Davis's chest?
MS. COREY: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained.
BY MR. STROLLA:
Q Did you give Jordan Davis C.P.R.?
A Yes, but it wasn't mouth-to-mouth C.P.R..
Q All right. What did you do?
A I put my hands on his chest trying to produce
a heartbeat.
Q Okay. And let me ask you this: You were a
junior lifeguard at 16 years old, correct?
A Yes.
Q How old are you today?
A 22.
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Q And how old were you in 2012 when this
happened?
A 21.
Q Okay. So from 16 to 21 any other C.P.R.,
lifesaving, any type of medical training at all other
than at 16 to be a junior lifeguard?
A No. No, sir.
Q Okay. And when you're giving C.P.R. to
Mr. Jordan Davis, are you focused on what you're doing?
A Pretty much.
Q You would agree that this was a very
traumatic event for you because this is the first time
you ever gave C.P.R., correct?
A Yes.
Q Okay. But you're telling this jury that as
you're giving Jordan Davis C.P.R. you're watching what
other people are doing around you?
A I can pay attention, yeah.
Q Okay. And again you have no medical
training, correct?
A No, sir.
Q No law enforcement training?
A No, sir.
Q No first responder training?
A No, sir.
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Q The only thing you testified today is you
were thinking about a career at that time, correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q Have you pursued that career? Are you an
E.M.T. right now?
A Nope.
Q Have you taken any type of medical training
or law enforcement as of today?
A No.
Q Okay. Isn't it true you used to own a
firearm?
A Yes.
Q And you got rid of that firearm --
MS. COREY: Objection. Outside the scope.
THE COURT: Sustained.
BY MR. STROLLA:
Q Mr. Williams, it took you about a
minute-and-a-half to two minutes before that light
turned green, made a U-turn, went all the way down the
street, another U-turn and pulled in, correct?
A How long did you say, sir?
Q About a minute-and-a-half, two minutes, is
that fair?
A Probably.
Q Well, I don't want to put words in your
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mouth. Do you think that's a fair representation of
your time?
A I didn't have a stop clock on me. I don't
know. It's just a minute -- probably about a minute to
turn around and everything. The light was green.
Q Okay. And at that point you waited a minute
for it to turn green, correct?
A No. It had turned green when we heard the
gunshots and that's when I made the U-turn.
Q All right. And then you went all the way
down and made another U-turn and came in?
A Yes, sir.
Q Okay. You testified that you saw a car
leaving the parking lot, is that correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q Okay. But you have no idea whose car that
is, correct?
A No, sir.
Q Is it a possibility that could have been
somebody else also leaving the gas station after shots
were fired?
A Yeah.
Q Okay. So you're not here to testify that
that was Mr. Dunn's vehicle, correct?
A I don't know whose vehicle it was.
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Q All right. So the relevance is almost
nothing because you're not sure who it is, correct?
A I don't know whose vehicle it was, yeah.
Q Now you're on scene for about another minute
before that SUV backs up, correct?
A No. It was backing up as I was pulling into
my parking spot.
Q Okay. And can you tell me what the people
did in the SUV when it was in the other parking lot?
A Nothing. They were backing up.
Q Well, you didn't even see it stop, correct?
A It was in backing up motion.
Q Right. So when you saw it it was already
backing up, correct?
A Correct.
Q And how close to the Gate parking lot was it
when you saw it?
A I mean probably 40 to 60 feet.
Q Okay. And that's from the parking lot,
correct?
A Uh-huh.
Q You have to say it out loud.
A Yes, sir.
Q All right. Now the picture you just saw with
the state's evidence, you're talking about 40 to
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60 feet from where that red Durango parked, correct?
A Correct.
Q Okay. How many first responders, meaning law
enforcement officers, were on scene when you got there?
A When I got there I believe one police officer
was pulling in.
Q Okay. So you pull in the same time as law
enforcement, correct?
A No. I'm sorry. I was sitting -- when I was
sitting there and saw the car pull in an officer had
pulled up.
Q And -- because you keep saying the word car
lot. Are you talking about when the red Durango pulls
in there's no law enforcement on scene, correct?
A Correct. It pulled in. I looked around.
Law enforcement officer was pulling on scene.
Q Okay. And you saw -- I believe you said you
saw the back window shot out, is that correct?
A I believe the back was shot, yeah.
Q Okay. And that's just based on your
recollection today?
A If I remember, yeah.
Q Okay. And would you agree was this a very
traumatic experience for you? Have you ever been
involved in anything like this before?
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A Not to this degree, no.
Q Okay. And you have no training to deal with
anything like this, is that correct?
A No.
Q Now -- and I don't want to put words in your
mouth. Did I hear you asked law enforcement first
responders for a pair of gloves?
A I asked the officer for gloves, yes.
Q Okay. And -- well, would you agree that
officers are first responders and trained in first
response techniques?
A I would guess that they have C.P.R. training,
yeah.
Q Okay.
A I don't -- like I don't know that. I mean I
would guess. I would assume it.
Q Okay. And by the time you asked for those
gloves how many officers were on scene?
A One.
Q Just the one?
A (Nods head affirmatively.)
Q Okay. And is that the -- let me ask you
this: When you checked for his pulse, do you have any
type of medical training to check for a pulse?
A C.P.R..
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Q And that's when you were 16?
A Uh-huh.
Q Okay. And at that point you then asked the
officer to help you get Mr. Davis out of the vehicle?
A Yes.
Q Still only one officer on scene?
A At that time other officers had come on
scene.
Q All right. And you --
A I don't remember how many.
Q Okay. And at that point you asked them, is
that correct?
A There was one officer on scene when I asked
for gloves.
Q Yes.
A When I got gloves I went over and checked for
a pulse again. I went back to an officer and said,
hey, there's no pulse. He's not moving. We probably
need to go ahead and pull him out and try to see if
he's okay.
Q Now did you tell these officers the only
medical training I have is when I was 16 as a junior
lifeguard?
A No.
Q Did they ask you?
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A No.
Q They just handed you a pair of gloves and
said, okay, go ahead and do it?
A I said I'd like to check on the young man in
there and they said, okay.
Q All right. And then when you asked them to
help you pull them out, at that point did they ask for
any type of medical training you had?
A No.
Q They just agreed, okay, we'll help you pull
him out?
A Yes.
Q Now since this has happened, have you seen
anything about this on T.V.?
A Not really. I do my best to kind of not do
much attention to it.
Q Even when it first happened?
A I remember my wife telling me that something
had come on.
Q And do you recall going on Facebook to seek
out the Davis family?
A Yes.
Q Okay. And you did that, correct?
A Yes.
Q Okay. And as a matter of fact when you went
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to the memorial you sought out Tevin Thompson and
Leland Brunson, correct?
A Yes.
Q And I believe if I recall you said Tommie
Stornes was not there?
A I don't remember if he was or not. I don't
remember. I didn't personally see him like I didn't
personally talk to him or interact with him that I
recall.
Q Would you have recognized him if you did see
him?
A I would have recognized him if I -- like I
mean I don't know if he could have been somewhere else.
Q Okay. And again when you're asking for
gloves, checking a pulse, pulling Mr. Davis out of the
car and administering C.P.R., are you telling this jury
that you were still cognizant of where everybody was
outside of that Gate Gas Station?
A I had a pretty decent idea. I was kind of
looking around because I was hoping that rescue would
show up soon.
Q And you said rescue took about five minutes?
A Right about that, yeah.
MR. STROLLA: Nothing further, Judge.
THE COURT: Ms. Corey.
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MS. COREY: Very briefly.
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am.
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. COREY:
Q Mr. Williams, is it particularly complicated
to feel for someone's pulse?
A No, ma'am.
Q And did you do that through the young man's
wrist?
A No, ma'am. I did it through his neck.
Q Through his neck.
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Did you ever feel for a pulse on his neck? I
mean did you ever find any evidence of a pulse on his
neck?
A No.
Q And were you there just to help?
A Yes.
MS. COREY: No further questions, Your Honor.
THE COURT: May he be excused?
MS. COREY: He may.
THE COURT: Mr. Strolla?
MR. STROLLA: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, sir.
Appreciate you being here.
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