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Conversations to Conversations to Have with Vets: Have with Vets:

Where Did You Get Where Did You Get That Information?That Information?

Terry T. Warren, PhD, JDTerry T. Warren, PhD, JDSteve Dale, CABCSteve Dale, CABC

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The State of the The State of the BloggosphereBloggosphere2011 Survey by Technorati™ Media2011 Survey by Technorati™ Media

Bloggers say their number one influencer on Bloggers say their number one influencer on what to blog about is other bloggers.what to blog about is other bloggers.

More than two-thirds of bloggers believe More than two-thirds of bloggers believe blogs are being taken more seriously.blogs are being taken more seriously.

Only around one-third of bloggers have been Only around one-third of bloggers have been employed by a traditional media outlet.employed by a traditional media outlet.

Blogs out pace other social media and many Blogs out pace other social media and many types of traditional media in consumer trust.types of traditional media in consumer trust.

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The Blogger’s The Blogger’s ResponsibilityResponsibility

Journalistic IntegrityJournalistic IntegrityYour are shaping the conversation on pet Your are shaping the conversation on pet topicstopics

Your blogs are being accepted as factYour blogs are being accepted as fact

Readers have selective perceptionReaders have selective perception

Is the message you intend to send the Is the message you intend to send the message you are actually sending?message you are actually sending?

Legal ConsiderationsLegal Considerations

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The Importance of The Importance of VeterinariansVeterinarians

Questions regarding a specific pet’s health Questions regarding a specific pet’s health should be reserved for a veterinarian.should be reserved for a veterinarian.

Diagnoses cannot be made without seeing Diagnoses cannot be made without seeing the animal.the animal.

However you can and must be prepared. However you can and must be prepared. Reputable animal Reputable animal health resources are health resources are available for you and available for you and your readers!your readers!

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Veterinary Veterinary SpecialtiesSpecialtiesThe American Veterinary Medical Association recognizes several specialty The American Veterinary Medical Association recognizes several specialty

boards. Veterinarians who are diplomates of these boards have boards. Veterinarians who are diplomates of these boards have completed specialized training in their respective fields of medicine.completed specialized training in their respective fields of medicine.

American Board of Veterinary American Board of Veterinary PractitionersPractitioners

American Board of Veterinary American Board of Veterinary ToxicologyToxicology

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary AnesthesiologistsAnesthesiologists

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary BehavioristsBehaviorists

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary Clinical PharmacologyClinical Pharmacology

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary DermatologyDermatology

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary Emergency and Critical CareEmergency and Critical Care

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary Internal MedicineInternal Medicine

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary OphthalmologistsOphthalmologists

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary RadiologyRadiology

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary SurgeonsSurgeons

American College of Veterinary American College of Veterinary Sports Medicine and RehabilitationSports Medicine and Rehabilitation

American Veterinary Dental CollegeAmerican Veterinary Dental College

The Association of Shelter The Association of Shelter Veterinarians Veterinarians

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Preventative CarePreventative CareAAHA-AVMA Preventative Health Care GuidelinesAAHA-AVMA Preventative Health Care Guidelines

AAHA Dental GuidelinesAAHA Dental Guidelines

AAHA Nutritional Assessment GuidelinesAAHA Nutritional Assessment Guidelines

AAHA Senior Care GuidelinesAAHA Senior Care Guidelines

AAFP Guidelines for Indoor CatsAAFP Guidelines for Indoor Cats

AAFP/AAHA Feline Lifestage GuidelinesAAFP/AAHA Feline Lifestage Guidelines

Consumer version: CATegorical Care: An Owner’s Consumer version: CATegorical Care: An Owner’s Guide to America’s #1 Companion @ Guide to America’s #1 Companion @ www.Catalystcouncil.orgwww.Catalystcouncil.org

AAHA Nutritional Assessment Guidelines for Dogs AAHA Nutritional Assessment Guidelines for Dogs and Catsand Cats

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Health TestingHealth TestingOrthopedic Foundation for AnimalsOrthopedic Foundation for Animals

Canine Health Information CenterCanine Health Information Center

List of genetic tests (dogs) available on CHF List of genetic tests (dogs) available on CHF website (website (www.akcchf.org))

List of genetic tests (cats) List of genetic tests (cats) www.winnfelinehealth.org

www.yourcatsheart.com

www.yourdogsheart.com

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VaccinesVaccinesWorld Small Animal Veterinary World Small Animal Veterinary Association/UK Kennel Club Canine Association/UK Kennel Club Canine Vaccine GuidelinesVaccine Guidelines

American Animal Hospital Association American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) Canine Vaccination Guidelines(AAHA) Canine Vaccination Guidelines

American Association of Feline American Association of Feline Practitioners (AAFP) Vaccine GuidelinesPractitioners (AAFP) Vaccine Guidelines

What to Expect After Your Pet’s What to Expect After Your Pet’s Vaccination published by Animal Vaccination published by Animal Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)

CHF Podcasts on Vaccination Protocols CHF Podcasts on Vaccination Protocols and Vaccinations & Infectious Diseaseand Vaccinations & Infectious Disease

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Parasite ControlParasite ControlCompanion Animal Parasite CouncilCompanion Animal Parasite Council

American Heartworm Society (American Heartworm Society (www.heatwormsociety.org) )

ACVIM Small Animal Consensus Statement ACVIM Small Animal Consensus Statement on Lyme Disease in Dogs (on Lyme Disease in Dogs (www.acvim.org) )

Advice on the Safe Use of Flea and Tick Advice on the Safe Use of Flea and Tick Products in Pets issued by AVMAProducts in Pets issued by AVMA

Includes AVMA, EPA and FDA resourcesIncludes AVMA, EPA and FDA resources

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NutritionNutritionCHF Podcasts on Canine Nutrition, Life CHF Podcasts on Canine Nutrition, Life Stage Nutrition, Balanced Nutrition, Stage Nutrition, Balanced Nutrition, Nutrigenomics, and Veterinary Nutrition. Nutrigenomics, and Veterinary Nutrition.

Information on how the FDA regulates pet Information on how the FDA regulates pet food as well as any recall information is food as well as any recall information is published in the Animal & Veterinary published in the Animal & Veterinary section of the FDA website.section of the FDA website.

Pet Nutrition AlliancePet Nutrition Alliancewww.petnutritionalliance.orgwww.petnutritionalliance.org

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Clinical TrialsClinical TrialsVeterinary Cancer SocietyVeterinary Cancer Society

National Cancer Institute Canine Clinical National Cancer Institute Canine Clinical TrialsTrials

Veterinary SchoolsVeterinary Schools

Not just for cancer!Not just for cancer!

Links at Links at www.akcchf.org in Participation in Participation Needed sectionNeeded section

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CancerCancerwww.akcchf.org/cancer

Canine Hereditary Cancer Consortium at the Canine Hereditary Cancer Consortium at the Van Andel InstituteVan Andel Institute

Colorado State University Animal Cancer Colorado State University Animal Cancer CenterCenter

Top ten warning signs of cancerTop ten warning signs of cancerTumors by nameTumors by nameTumors and specialized cell typesTumors and specialized cell typesTumors by locationTumors by location

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Pain ManagementPain ManagementAAHA/AAFP Pain Management Guidelines AAHA/AAFP Pain Management Guidelines for Dogs & Catsfor Dogs & Cats

Types of painTypes of pain

Anticipation and early interventionAnticipation and early intervention

Signs of painSigns of pain

• International Veterinary International Veterinary Academy of Pain Management: Academy of Pain Management: http://www.ivapm.org/

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How to sniff out the news: How to sniff out the news: Case Study - Pet Food RecallCase Study - Pet Food Recall

Alerted by Twitter, traditional news Alerted by Twitter, traditional news sources about recall for concerns sources about recall for concerns about salmonellaabout salmonella

- Diamond post on their site, most - Diamond post on their site, most did notdid not

AVMA (not yet listed on their site)AVMA (not yet listed on their site)

I chose to post them one by one (as I I chose to post them one by one (as I could confirm)could confirm)

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Pet Food recalls:Pet Food recalls:

FDA Recall, Withdrawals and Safety AlertsFDA Recall, Withdrawals and Safety Alerts

http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/recallswithdrawals/default.htmsafetyhealth/recallswithdrawals/default.htm

Food Recall Product List:Food Recall Product List:

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/newpetfoodrecalls/newpetfoodrecalls/

Dog Food Advisor: Dog Food Advisor:

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-recall/diamond-another-dog-food-recall/recall/diamond-another-dog-food-recall/

blog: www.chicagonow.com/stevedaleblog: www.chicagonow.com/stevedale

How to sniff out the news: How to sniff out the news: Case Study - Pet Food RecallCase Study - Pet Food Recall

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Fervor began with InternetFervor began with Internet

Related to human vaccination issue, autismRelated to human vaccination issue, autism

- regardless of how you feel personally about - regardless of how you feel personally about affects on autism no studies on pets affects on autism no studies on pets

- vaccine guidelines – truth of those - vaccine guidelines – truth of those guidelinesguidelines

- herd immunity- herd immunity

- are you willing to take on the law, re: rabies - are you willing to take on the law, re: rabies

Case Study – The Vaccine Debate

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Sourcing……Trusted Sourcing……Trusted or Notor Not

Bloggers do get information from other Bloggers do get information from other blogs…but does that always mean that blogs…but does that always mean that information is correct? information is correct?

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“I have been encouraging my clients to not vaccinate or vaccinate less for the past 30 years. All of the cases of Distemper and Kennel cough I have seen over these many years were all vaccinated at some point in their lives. All Parvo cases I have treated post 1978 s Parvo ′epidemic had all been vaccinated. My reason for making this statement is that I want you to all be aware there are no guarantees whether you vaccinate or not.

The majority of my patients are unvaccinated or have only had their initial vaccines as puppies or kittens and have not vaccinated since. 95+ of all my new patients have still been vaccinated annually even though this had not been recommended in the veterinary profession for over 10 years.”

http://homeopathtyler.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/pets-to-vaccinate-or-not/

There’s Truth Here And aVersionOf theTruth

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Believe it or Not?Believe it or Not?Use “natural” flea products, like Brewer’s Use “natural” flea products, like Brewer’s yeast yeast

75% of dogs over 16 are affected by heart 75% of dogs over 16 are affected by heart disease.disease.

A surprising number of cats are arthritic, A surprising number of cats are arthritic, but using a NSAID in a drug is deadly.but using a NSAID in a drug is deadly.

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Believe it or Not?Believe it or Not?Use “natural” flea products, like Use “natural” flea products, like Brewer’s yeast Brewer’s yeast

Sources:Sources:Michael Dryden, DVM, PhD, a University Michael Dryden, DVM, PhD, a University Distinguished Professor of Veterinary Parasitology, Distinguished Professor of Veterinary Parasitology, in the Department of Diagnostic Medicine and in the Department of Diagnostic Medicine and Pathobiology at Kansas State University. He is the Pathobiology at Kansas State University. He is the author or co-author of over 100 journal articles and author or co-author of over 100 journal articles and book chapters. He has lectured in 21 countries, book chapters. He has lectured in 21 countries, presenting over 750 invited seminars at national presenting over 750 invited seminars at national and international meetings.and international meetings.Brewer’s Yeast actually helps to ‘grow’ fleasBrewer’s Yeast actually helps to ‘grow’ fleasPersonal interview Personal interview Companion Animal Parasite Council Companion Animal Parasite Council

www.petsandparasites.orgwww.petsandparasites.org

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Believe it or Not?Believe it or Not?75% of dogs over 16 are affected by heart 75% of dogs over 16 are affected by heart diseasedisease

That is the stat! Also, about 10% of dogs That is the stat! Also, about 10% of dogs between 5 to 8 yrs.; 20-25% of dogs between between 5 to 8 yrs.; 20-25% of dogs between the 9 to 12 yrs.; and 30-35% of dogs over 13 the 9 to 12 yrs.; and 30-35% of dogs over 13 yrs are affected.yrs are affected.

SourcesSourcesPersonal interviews: Personal interviews:

Michael Luethy, DVM, Diplomate ACVIM; Michael Luethy, DVM, Diplomate ACVIM;

Sonya G. Gordon, DVM, DVSc, Diplomate ACVIM, Sonya G. Gordon, DVM, DVSc, Diplomate ACVIM, Associate Professor of Cardiology, Texas A&M University; Associate Professor of Cardiology, Texas A&M University;

www.yourdogsheart.comwww.yourdogsheart.com

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Believe it or Not?Believe it or Not?A surprising number of cats are arthritic, but using a NSAID A surprising number of cats are arthritic, but using a NSAID drug drug is deadly.is deadly.

Sources:Sources:

““Ninety percent of cats over 12 had evidence of degenerative Ninety percent of cats over 12 had evidence of degenerative joint disease.” joint disease.”

(Hardie et al, 2002) FAB: (Hardie et al, 2002) FAB: http://www.fabcats.org/owners/arthritis/info.htmlhttp://www.fabcats.org/owners/arthritis/info.html

““NSAID’s like meloxicam (Metacam) are metabolized via oxidation NSAID’s like meloxicam (Metacam) are metabolized via oxidation which is efficient in cats.” which is efficient in cats.”

Tacke S., PhD; Norsworthy G., DVM, DABVP (feline) “The Feline Tacke S., PhD; Norsworthy G., DVM, DABVP (feline) “The Feline Patient, Patient, 44thth Edition,” (Wiley Blackwell, Ames, IA), Edition,” (Wiley Blackwell, Ames, IA), 2011. 2011.

“ “One study showed a Cox-1 sparring effect in cats ” One study showed a Cox-1 sparring effect in cats ” Little S. Little S. CVM, DABVP (feline), “The Cat: Clinical Medicine and CVM, DABVP (feline), “The Cat: Clinical Medicine and Management,” Elsevier, St. Louis, MO), 2012.Management,” Elsevier, St. Louis, MO), 2012.

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Make A DifferenceMake A DifferenceSad news for our pets was announced at a press Sad news for our pets was announced at a press conference entitled, "Houston, We Have a Problem," conference entitled, "Houston, We Have a Problem," during the 2011 American Veterinary Medical during the 2011 American Veterinary Medical Association Convention. Association Convention.

23.9% of pet owning households spent $0 at a 23.9% of pet owning households spent $0 at a veterinarian’s (2006). Experts suggest that number is veterinarian’s (2006). Experts suggest that number is higher today. higher today. AVMAAVMA

71% of veterinary professionals surveyed have cats 71% of veterinary professionals surveyed have cats living in their home, but more than a third of them do living in their home, but more than a third of them do not bring their cats in for an annual wellness exam (let not bring their cats in for an annual wellness exam (let alone 2X annual visits).alone 2X annual visits).  CATalyst Council, DVM News MagazineCATalyst Council, DVM News Magazine

The problem has been a steady decline in our pets' The problem has been a steady decline in our pets' health. For example, more flea infestations; internal health. For example, more flea infestations; internal parasites up 13 percent in cats and 30 percent in dogs parasites up 13 percent in cats and 30 percent in dogs since 2006, according to the Banfield Pet Hospital since 2006, according to the Banfield Pet Hospital State of Pet Health 2011 report. Potentially, this is a State of Pet Health 2011 report. Potentially, this is a public health issue since some of these parasites can public health issue since some of these parasites can also affect people. Diabetes is up 16 percent in cats also affect people. Diabetes is up 16 percent in cats and 32 percent in dogs. and 32 percent in dogs.

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Ricky FundRicky Fund

www.winnfelinehealth.org

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How You Can Make a How You Can Make a Difference For GoodDifference For Good

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Steve Dale Terry Warren

Blog:www.chicagonow.com/stevedale

Website:www.akcchf.org

FB /akccaninehealthfoundation

Twitter @caninehealthfnd

Twitter @stevedalepets

www.stevedale.tv

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Questions?