1. Doorkeeper: HAttention Members of the House of Representativesy the House will convene in fifteen minutes. Attentfon Members of the House of Representatives, the House will convene fn five minutea. Al1 persons not entitled to the House floor please retire to the gallery.'l k Speaker Redmond: HThe House will come to order. Members please be in 1 , their seats, be 1ed in prayer by the Reverend Krueger, the House Chaplainw'' Rev. Krueger: MIn the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Amen. 0 Lord: bless this House to Thy service this day. Amen. Charles Kingsley said: 'The men whom I have seen succeed have always been cheerful and hopeful,who went about their bustness with a smile on their faces, and took the changes and chances of this mortal ltfe like menwl Let us pray. Almfghty Cod, with Ilom tizere is no variableness,we beseech Thee to lcok upon the Members of this Illinois House of Representatfves with Thy favour. As they perform their duties to effect such legislation that is ' in harmony with Thy Divfne Law, grant them special grace to pur- sue cheerfully that which they believe. Temper them when they succeed and provide thèm with charity when they fail. And, 0 Lord, in a11 tbings may they be kindly affectioned one to another. Through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen/' Speaker Redmond: 'fRo11 Call for attendance. Representative Nalsh is fn the chamber. Representative Ryan, do you have any excused absences? Representative Ryan.'' Ryan: îfYes,Mr. Speakery Representative Keats fs absent due to illness. That's the only one I got.'' speaker Redmond: ''May the record so show. A11 unauthorized persons leave the floor. Representative Madigan, do you have any ex- cused absences? Representative Ryanof' Ryan: MAdd Representative Kucharski to the absent... excused absence list because of illness.'' Speaker Redmond: HThere any objections? HearingnoneyRepresentative ' Kucharski's name will be added to the excused absences. Messagespe' Clerk O'Brien: ''I received a message f rom the Secretary of State f or- warding a Total Veto Message to House Bi11 9, Specfal Session 1; -i;-suy 4 y:% . - es G ENE RAL A SSEM BLY a- 1- 7 8 / , ( 't fl ' . . û s'rxvxoeluulaols l . :* k . '' . P=' # pouslo'I'/PPEIENTATIV'E/ x .v . x x. zae,. 0%
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Doorkeeper: HAttention Members of the House of Representativesy the
House will convene in fifteen minutes. Attentfon Members of the
House of Representatives, the House will convene fn five minutea.
Al1 persons not entitled to the House floor please retire to
the gallery.'lk
Speaker Redmond: HThe House will come to order. Members please be in 1,
their seats, be 1ed in prayer by the Reverend Krueger, the House
Chaplainw''
Rev. Krueger: MIn the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Amen. 0 Lord: bless this House to Thy service this day. Amen.
Charles Kingsley said: 'The men whom I have seen succeed have
always been cheerful and hopeful, who went about their bustness
with a smile on their faces, and took the changes and chances of
this mortal ltfe like menwl Let us pray. Almfghty Cod, with
Ilom tizere is no variableness, we beseech Thee to lcok upon the
Members of this Illinois House of Representatfves with Thy favour.
As they perform their duties to effect such legislation that is
' in harmony with Thy Divfne Law, grant them special grace to pur-
sue cheerfully that which they believe. Temper them when they
succeed and provide thèm with charity when they fail. And, 0
Lord, in a11 tbings may they be kindly affectioned one to another.
Through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen/'
Speaker Redmond: 'fRo11 Call for attendance. Representative Nalsh is
fn the chamber. Representative Ryan, do you have any excused
absences? Representative Ryan.''
Ryan: îfYes, Mr. Speakery Representative Keats fs absent due to illness.
That's the only one I got.''
speaker Redmond: ''May the record so show. A11 unauthorized persons
leave the floor. Representative Madigan, do you have any ex-
cused absences? Representative Ryanof'
Ryan: MAdd Representative Kucharski to the absent... excused absence
list because of illness.''
Speaker Redmond: HThere any objections? Hearing noney Representative' Kucharski's name will be added to the excused absences. Messagespe'
Clerk O'Brien: ''I received a message f rom the Secretary of State f or-
warding a Total Veto Message to House Bi11 9 , Specfal Session 1;
-i;-suy4y:%. - es G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y a - 1- 7 8/ , ( 'tfl ' . . û s'rxvx oe luulaolsl . :*k
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an Amendatory Veto Message from the Governor on House Bi11 24359
Speaker Redmond: ''The Gentleman from Depaul, Representative Leinenweber.î'
Leinenweber: 'Yr. Speaker, I'm looking at today's Calendary House Cal-
endar, Wednesday, March 1. I don't see l-isted anywhere the
order of sports scores. Is tbat an oversight on the part of
the Clerk?''
Speaker Redmond: ''The order of wbat?''
Leinenweber: ''Sports scores.''
Speaker Redmond: ''The Gentleman from Depaul fs basking in his glory.
You dfdn't go to that meeting of the thirty people did you?''
Leinenweber: ''Go to the meeting? I was the meetlng.''
Speaker Redmond: Mloint Resolutions.fî
Clerk O'Brien: l'House Joint Resolution 68. Resolved by the House of
Representatives of the 80th General Assembly, the State of Il-
linois, the Senate concurring herein, that the tuo Houses meet
in Joint Session in the hall of the House of Representatives
on Wednesday, March 1, 1978, at the hour of three o'clock p.m.
for tbe purpose of hearing the Governor deltver bis special mes-
sage on the budget for the year beginning July 1y 1978.1'
Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Madigano''
Madigan: HMr. Speaker. I move for the adoptfon of Bouse Joint Resolu- '
tion 68..'
Speaker Redmond: ''Is there any discussion? Representative Ryano'?
Ryan: ''Wkat is House Joint Resolution 68?'1
speaker Redmond: 'fWt11 you read it again?''
Clerk O'Brien: 'lResolved by the House of Representatives of the 80th
General Assembly: the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring
hereins that the two Houses meet in Joint Session fn the hall
of the House of Representatives on Wednesday, March 1s 1978. at
three o'clock p-m. for the purpose of hearing the Governor de-
liver his specfal message on the budget for the year beginning
July 1. 1978.'.
speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ryan.î'
Ryan: ''Thank you. Mr. Speaker. ' That fs at three o'clocky is that..w''
Speake'r Redmond: î'That is three orclockw'?
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Ryan : f'Was that the Governor' s request , three o ê clock?''
Speaker Redmond : ''It was at the Covernor' s acquiescence .''
R an : ''Tlzank you.''Y
Speaker Redmond : ''Any further questions? 'I'he questioa' s on the adop-
tion of the Resolution. Those in f avor say yes y ' ayeg , opposed
'nor. The 'ayes' have it, motion carries, Resolution's adopted.
Lucco: 'fYes, th:nk youy Mr. Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.
It's py prfvflege to introduce a group of fine citizens from
Granite City, Illinois, the 56th District which is represented
by Representative Mcpike and Representative Everett Steele and
myself. Tbey're up here in the Speaker's gallery.l'
Speaker Redmond: MProceed, Mr. Clerkall
Clerk OvBrfen: ''There shall be no fee officers in the ludicial sys-
tem. Schedule. This Amendment takes effect fmmedfately upon
approval by the electors. First Reading of tbe Constitutfonal
Amendclenc.î'
Speaker Redmond: Hlatroduction and First Reading.''
Clerk O'Brien: î'House Bill 2616, McGrew. A Bill for an Act making
appropriations to the ordinary and contingent expense of the
Capftal Development Board. First Reading of the Bi11. House
Bf1l 2617, Robinson. A Bfll for an Act providing for the dfs-
trlbution of County and Municfpal Retailor's Occupatfon Tax oa
coal fn accordance with geographical locatioas of the real pro-
perty from whtch the coal is removed. First Reading of t:e Bill.
House Bill 2618, Huskey. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections
' of the Illinofs Marriage and Dfssolutfon of Marriage Act. First
Readfng of the B11l. House Bill 2619. Emfl Jones. A Bi11 for
an Act to amend Sectfons of the School Code. Ffrst Readfng of
tbe Bill. House Bfll 2620, Rich Brummer-Matfjevich. A Bill
for an Act to amend Sectioas of the Revenue Aet. Eirst Reading
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of the Bi11. House Bill 2621, Ebbesen. A Bill for an Aet to
amend Sections of the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act. First
Reading of the Bill. House B111 2622, Ebbesen. A Bill for an
Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Covernmental Ethics Act.
First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2623, Ebbesen. A Bill
for an Act making an appropriation to the Ethics Review Board.
First Reading of the Bi1l. House B111 2624. Ebbesen. A Bill
for an Act to amend Sections of an Act authorizing certain counties
to fncur fndebtedness and to fssue bonds for the constructfon
of county Jails and sheriff residences. First Reading of the
Bi11. House Bill 2625, Ebbesen. A Bf11 for an Act concerning
the use of cannabis.in the treatment of glaucoma. First Reading
of the Bill. House Bi11 2626, Ebbesen. A Bi11 for an Act to
regulate the advertisingo... A Bill for aa Act to regulate the
advertising of ophthalmic material. First Reading uf the Bi11.
House Bill 2627, Jacobs. A Bill for an Act permitting raffles
and chance games to be conducted by not-for-profit organizations.
First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2628. Kelly. A Bill for
an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Abortion Law. First
Readfng of the Bi11. House Bill 2629, Kelly. A Bill for an
Act to exempt from taxation receipts from the sale of gas and
electricfty or transmission of messages to units of local govern-
ment and school distrfcts. First Reading of the Bi11. House
Bfll 2630, Kelly. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the
Unified Code of Correctfons. Ffrst Reading of the Bi11. House
Bi11 2631, Kelly. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an
Act in relation to construction. operation, regulation aad main-
tenance of a system of toll hfghways. First Readfng of the Bi1l.
House Bill 2632, Hanahan-Bradley. A Bill for an Act to provide
for the ordinary and contingent expense for the State Board of
Education. Ffrst Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2633. Gaines.''
Speaker Redmond: MRepresentative McBroom, for what purpose do you rfse?
Please give the Gentleman order.'ê
McBroom: ''Yes: Mr. Speaker, Members of the House: I arise for the pur-
pose of a very brief introduction. Behind me, the students from
Melvin Sfbley Junior High School with their fnstructory Mrs. Ames.
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Representative Ryan, Representative Christensen in my districty
tbeylre behind us up here, Ray. Stand and be acknowledged please.
Thank you.''
Speaker Redmond: ''Proceedy Mr. Clerksî'
' Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2633, Gaines. A Bill for an Act to amead
the School Code. Ffrst Reading of the Bf1l. House Bill 2634,I
Chapman. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections and tbe title of 1Crimfnal Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education Act. ;
First Readfng of the Bi11. House Bill 2635, Tuerk. A Bill forI
an Act makfng approprfation to the State Board of Education. 1iFirst Reading of the Bill. House Bi11 2636. Birchler. A Bill
!for aa Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading
of the Bi11. House Bill 2637, Boucek. A Bi11 for an Act in
relation to making of unsolicited commercial telephone ealls
xith automatfc equipment. First Reading of the Bf1.3.. House
Bill 2638, Robinson. A Bf11 for an Act relating to Meabers of
the General Assembly. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill
2639. Ryan et a1. A Bill for an Act relatfng to testimony of
witnesses at legislatfon hearings. First Reading of the Bi11.
House B111 2640, Skinner. A Bf11 for an Act to amend Sections
of the Illinois Publfc Demonstrations Law. Fïrst Reading of
the Bill. House Bfll 2641, Skinner. A Bill for an Act to amend
Sectfons of the Illinois Public Demonstratfons Law. First Readtng
of the Bi11. House Bill 2642, Mudd-Tuerk. A Bill for an Act
to make an appropriatfon to Department of Transportatioa. First
Reading of the Bfl1. House Bfll 2643, Lechowfcz. A Bill for
an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. First Reading of
the Bi11. House Bfll 2644. Yourell. A Bill for an Act to amend
Sections of the Unemployment Insurance Act. First Reading of the
Bill. House Bill 2646. Yourell. A Bill for an Act to amend
Sections of an Act in relation to Comprehensfve County Hospi-i
ta1 Covernfng Commission. First Reading of the Bi11. House
Bfll 2647, Yourell. A Bfll for an Act to amend Sections of the ;1I
School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2648... j' no Sponsor. House Bill 20... we#ll come back to House Bill 2648.
House Bfll 2649, Yourell. A Bi11 for an Act to amend the School
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Code. First Reading of the Bi11. Mouse Bilt 2648, Yourell.
A Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Ffrst Reading of
the Bi11. House Bill 2650, Katz. A Bill for an Act in relation!
to police protection for exposition facilities in tbe Metro- !!Ipolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority. First Reading of the
Bi11. House Bill 2651, Schneider. A Bill for an Act to amend
the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2652, !
Polk. A Bfll for an Act permitting raffles and drawings for :i!prizes to be conducted for not-for-profit organizations. First
Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2653, Polk. A Bf1l for an Act Ei
to amend Sections of the Illinois Farm Labor Contractor's Cer-
tification Act. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2654.
Mahar. A Bi11 for an Act to provide for funding for the estab- i
lishment of an emergency telephone number system in Illinois.
First Reading of the Bi11.. House Bi11 2655, Katz. A Bill for
an Act to increase tbe message tax to provide funding for es-
tablishment of the 911 emergency telephone number system ia I1- . ilinois. Ffrst Reading of tbe Bi11. House 3i11 2656, Mahar.
A Bill for an Act to amend Sectfons of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
First Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2657, Kozubowski-Lechowicz.
A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Bingo License and
Tax Act. First Reading of tbe Bi11. House Bfll 2658: Jaffe-
Kane-Lucco. A Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First
. Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2659, Tim Sfmms. A Bill for
an Act to repeal Sections of the Civil Administrative Code. I
Ffrst Reading of the Bf11. House Bill 2660, Gaines. A Bill
for an Act to amend Sections of the Illfnois Public Aid Code.
Fïrst Readfng of the Bi11. House Bill 2661, Chapman. A Bill
for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revlse the 1aw in re-
lation to private employment agencies. Ffrst Reading of the
Bi1l. House Bi11 2662, Bradley. A Bi11 for an Act to amend
Sections of the Metropolitan Cfvic Center Support Act. First
Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2663, Bradley. A Bi11 for an
Act creatfng the Bloomington Civic Center Authority and deter-
mining its powers and duties. First Reading of the Bi11. House
Bill 2664, Lynn Martin. A Bi11 for an Act to amend the titles
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2 - D>,r t' svxv. oe Iz-ud,4o's. , t.t ..1. . .3 e Hotllt OF REPRKIK-TATIVRI.x . ?:'
tion. (a) Whenever three-fffths of the Members elected to each
House of the Ceneral Assembly so directs the question of whether
a Constitutional Convention should be called shall be submftted
to the electors at the general election next occurting at least
six months after such legfslatfve direction- (b) If the ques-. l
tion of whether a Conventfon should be called fs not submitfed
during any twenty-year period, the Secretary of State shall submit
such question at the general election in the twentieth year fol-I
lowing tne last submission. (c) 1he vote oa whetl.er to call
a Convention shall be on a separate ballot. A Conventïon shall
! be called if approved by three-fifths of those votfng on the
question or a majority of those voting in the election. (d)
The General Assembly, at the Session following approval by the
electors, by 1aw shall provide for the Convention and for the
election of two delegates from each Senatorfal District; designate
the time and place - .''
speaker Redmond: ''Representative Robinson, for what purpose do you
Y i S Ql î î 1
Robinson: 'Yr. Speakery 1 think the Xembership ought to know that
Peggy Smfth Martin is now a grandmother- She doesa't look lfke
a grandmother in the least, but her daughter had a child yeseiterday. '' I
speaker Redmond: ''Very good. How is the grandmother holding up?
ze-WAro. ' vo .. A G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y :$ . 1 - 7 81' - tx- %.%Lt.>.
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Proceed, Mr. Clerk.'l
Clerk Ha11: ''(d) The General Assembly, at the Session following ap-
proval by the electors, by 1aw shall provide for the Conveation
aad for the election of tvo delegates from each Senatorial
District; desfgnate the time and place on the Conventfonfs
first meeting whfch shall be within three moaths after the
election of delegates; fix and provide for the pay of delegates
and officers; and provide for expenses necessarily incurred by
the Convention. (e) To be eligible to be a delegate a person
must oeet the same eligibility requirements as a Member of the
General Assembly. Vaeancies shall be filled as provided by law.
(f) The Convention s>all prepare such revision of or Amend-
ments to the Constitution as it deems necessary. Any proposed
revision or Amendments approved by a majority of the delegates
elected shall be submïtted to' the electors in such manner as
the Convention determines, at an election designated or called
by the Conventfon occurring not less than two nor more than six
months after the Convention's adjournment. Any revision or
Amendments proposed by the Convention shall be published wfth
explanations, as the Convention provides, at least one month
preceding tîe electfon. (g) The vote on the proposed revisfon
or Amendments shall be on a separate ballot. Any proposed re-
vision or Amendments shall become effectivey as the Convention
provides, if approved by a majority of those votfng.v.''
Speaker Redmond: 'fRepresentative Bradley, youVre wanted on the phonee''
Clerk Ha11: HSchedule. The changes made by thfs Amendment sball apply
to and govern the legislative redistricting of 1981 and sub-
sequent redistrictfngs and to the election of Senators and Rep-
resentatives ïn 1982 and thereafter. First Reading of the Con-
stitutfonal Amendment.î'
Speaker Redmond: fllt's the plaa to... at two o'clock to take about
a half an hour recess for the purpose of a Leadershlpy Jolnt
Leadetship meeting. So anybody that's contemplating sending
out for some food or somethingy you might take that into coa-
sideration. It'll only be a half aa hour, however. Introduc-
tion ànd Firsr Reading/l .zif e
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clerk Hall: nHouse Bill 2708. A Bill for an Act to amend the Grade
Crossing Act. First Reading of the Bi11. Eouse Bilt 2709, Bennett.
A Bill for an Act to amead an Act concerning public utilities.
First Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2710, Leinenweber. A
3ill for an Act to amend the Civil Practiyes Act. First Reading i
of the Bf11. House Bi11 2711, Deuster. A Bill for an Act to
amead the Vehicle Code. First Readfng of the Bi11. Eouse Bill
2712, Dyer. A Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Iasurance
Act. Ffrst Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2713, Brxrmer. A
Bill for an Act to amend the Tllinois Municipal Code. Ffrst
Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2714, Peters. A Bill for an
Act to amend the Court of Claims Act. First Reading of 'the Bi11.
Eouse Bill 2715, Hudson. A Bill for an Act to appropriate the
Illinofs Commlssion oa Atomic Energy. Ffrst Reading of the Bill.
llouse Eil?. 2716, Farley. A Bill for an âct to amend the Chicage
Park Dfstrict Act. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2717:
Farley. A Bi11 for an Act to prohibit any stadium with a seating
. capacity over five thousand. First Readfng of the Bil1-''
Speaker Bradley: ''Representative Tipswordy do you wish to ca11... Al1
rfght. 0n page 3 under Amendatory Veto Motfons appears House
Bi11 2435. The Gentleman from Christiaa, Mr. Tfpsword. Pardon
me. Mr. Madigan, Mr. Madigan. IYe Gentleman from Cook, for
what purpose do you rfse, Sir?''
Madfgan: ''The purposes of a motion, Mr. Speaker; to move that we
suspend the appropriate rule which requires that the motions
to override the Governor's veto lie on the desk for one day.
And the purpose of the motion wfll be to allow for considera-
tion of motfons to override the Governor's vetoes. Todayy'l
understand that the Parliamentarian has talked to Mr. Ryan and
I hope that he would concur in my motioa to suspend this rule
at thfs time-o
Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman from Kankaee... Is there any discussfon?
The Gentleman from Kankakee, Mr. Ryan.'' 1I
Ryan: l'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I understand it, that's just for iiI
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Madigan: 'Yo. Mr. Ryan, it would apply to all veto motions on the
Calendar todayof'
Ryan: ''ue11 1'm going to have to oppose this, Mr. Speaker. I'm going
to have to oppose the motionv''
Speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Madlgan..e'' -
Madfgan: I'If the Gentleman wfshes to oppose the motion, why then I
would witbdraw it-''
Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Cbristian, Mr. Tipsword.f'
lipsword: 'Yr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemeny I would hope that
the Minority Leader would be able to support this. Otherwise:
these motions... wèll, if they have to 1ay on the desk for a
day would requfre us being here tomorrow I would presume or some-
time within the fifteen day period. Otherwise, it cannot be
acted onau
Speaker Bradley: HMr. Ryany if we took these as one at a time... on
that motfon?''
Ryan: ''uell, I have no objectfons to tbe motion on 2435. Mr. Speaker.'l
speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Christiany Mr. Tipsword.''
Tipsword: 'Nr. Speaker, tben I would move to suspend House Rule 44/(b)
for the purpose of hearing of the motion to... on the amendatory
veto on nouse Bill 2435 only.'î
Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman moves the suspension of 44/(b) for .
one day, was thaty Mr. Tfpscord?''
Tipsword: HJust for the purpose of hearfng this one Bi11J'
Speaker Bradley: HJust for the purpose of hearing House Bill 2435.
A11 in favor of the Gentleman's motioa sigaify by saying 'aye'.
Al1 right, let's have a Roll Call on it. Every... al1 those
in favor of the Gentleman's motfon vote 'aye' opposed vote 'no'.. *
The Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Schlickman. For what purpose do
you rise sir?''
Schlickmaa: ''I was wondering... 11m wondering if the movant would I
yield to one question.''
Speaker Bradley: ''He indfcates that he will.'?
Scblickman: f'Wf11 you be movfng to accept the Governor's specffic i
recommendation for changeS''
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Tipsword: ''That is the motion that's on files yesw''
Schlickman: HOkay, thank you.''
Speaker Bradley: ''Have a11 voted who wished? Have a11 voted who
wished? Take the record. On this questfon there are 127 'ayes',I
no 'nays'. 50 voting... 50 absent and the Gentleman's motion
prevails. Now we will be at the posftfon of the amendatory
veto motfon on House Bill 2435. The Gentleman from Christian,
Mr. Tipsvord.''
Tipsword: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Centlemen: this is a motion to
sustain the Governorls amendatory veto or to adopt hfs amenda-
tory veto and hts suggestions tberein for Amendment to House
Bfll 2435. This clears up some problems , some technical prob-
lems fn the drafting of House Bill 2435 which as you may recall
relates to the legislatfon wbich we passed to provide for stag-
gered registration of automobiles in the State of Illinoiss so
they'll be applying for them during nfne different months of'
the ycar instead of having them a11 come in during approximately
one three-month period. There is a technfcal problem in the
Bf11. Although the amendatory veto, if you read it, hits a num-
ber of different areas in which therels one or two words changed,
the general effect of the total amendatory veto and its sug-
gestions are to eliminate an inEquity iu the Bill 'Dhat would pru-
vide that a vehicle newly acquired fn Decembery January and
Februarys they would had to have paid nine mônths in registra-
tion fees for a ten-month period while othersy who bought in
other months of the year, uight have had to have paid eleven
months for a ten-month period. So this just simply eliminates
that inequity and provides the same kind of treatment for each
and every purchaser of automobiles during that entire year peri-
od and they would only be payfng for exactly the same length
of tfme. There would be no penalty, therefore, upon... on any
autonobile purcbaser during that time, nor would any automobile
purchaser receive any advantage over anyone elseoo
Speaker Bradley: ''Discussfon? The question fs, shall the House ac-
cept the Covernorês speciffc recommendation for change wfth re-
spect to House Bi11 2435 by adoption of the Amendment? A11 in
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favor signify by voting 'ayel, opposed by voting fno'. Have
a11 voted who wished? Have a11 voted who wished? The Clerk
wi11 take the record. On this question there are 139 Iayes',' j
' Ino 'nays' none voting 'present'. This motion having received
tbe Constitutional Majority jrevails and the House accepts thei
Governor's specific recommendation for change regarding House
Bi11 2435 by the adoption of this Amendment. Mr. Winchester on
the floor? Representative Mudd: what purpose do you risey Sir?''
Mudd: ''Yes, l4r. Speakery for the purpose of an introduction. Today
we have a state office candidate with us who served with the
Chicago Saaitary Distriot, one of the wonders of the world. Me's
done a fantàstic Job and I thfnk that weere very lucky to have
these kfnd of management people run for state office and I'd
like to introduce to the Pouse today. He's standing back by
Representatfve Lechowicz: Jerry Cosentino, who is a candfdate
for State Treasurer of Illfnois.''
Speaker Bradley: HI understand that the Amendment to the rules are
on the way to the floor of the Eouse. We wilt address that ques-
tion as soon as they arrive and are distrfbuted. In tbe mean-
tfme, Introductfon and First Readiag.'î
Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2718, Friedland. A 3i1l for an Act to amend
Sections of the Retailer's Occupation Tax Act. First Readfng
of the Bf11. House Bi11 2719, Pullen-Macdonald. A Bill for
an Act to amend Sections of the Chfld Care Act of 1969. Ffrst
' Reading of the Bi11.H
Speaker Bradley: ''The House will be in order. Committee Reports.'ê
Clerk o'Brien; llRepresentative Redmondy Chairman of the Committee on
Rulesy to which the followtng Resolution was referred; actîon
taken March 1y 1978. Reported the same back witb the following
recommendation: be adopted House Resolution 642.''
Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan.n
Madfgan: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladfes and Centlemen of the House, this Reso-'
lutfon would amend the rules of the House to structure the Sprfng
' Session. And the rule would provide às follows: Number ones
' Interfm Study Bflls would be required to obtain an exemption from
the Rules Committee unless they had had a publfc hearfng beeueen
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will also be required to obtain an exemption from the Rules Com-
mittee unless they are iatroduced prior to April 14, 1978.1:
Speaker Bradley: HCould we give the Centleman some order because this
is a rule change and youRre a11 going to be interested fn ft.
It's going to affect the way we operate tbe House this Springy
Ko give him some order. Proceed: Mr. Madigan/l
Madigan: HAnd lastlyy a series of deadlines is established.'î
Speaker Bradley: HFor what purpose the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlïckman,
arise?''
Schlickman: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House: I apologize to
the Malority Leadery but 1 don't find this House Resolution on
the Calendar. And furthermore, I don't have a copy of it oa
mx desk/î
Speaker Bradley: HMr...H
Madfgan: ''They are distributed, I understand.'f
Schltckman: ''Where? How do I get a copy?''
Speaker Bradley: ''Consult your Page.''
Schlickman: l'And shouldn't it be on the Calendar?'t
Speaker Bradley: ''We lust read the Committee Report, Mr. Schlickmaa.
Do you have a copy now, Sir?''
Schlickman: ''Wel1, does reading the Committee Report give the basis
for a vote on this proposed rule change?''
speaker Bradley: ''Are you objecting, Sir, or do you just waat a ruling
from the Chair?''
Schlickman: HWe11, I just wanted to know ff ft's in order at thfs time
to consider a motion to adopt an Amendment to the rules wfthout
tbere befng appearing on t:e Calendar House Resolution 642. Now,
I do see under the Order of Committee Hearfngs a scheduling for
this morning of a Rules Committee related to dfscussion on rules
governing Sprfng Session. But that doesn't put House Resolution
642 on the Calendar for consideration at this timey so I do ob-
1 e C t . :1
Speaker Bradley: ''You are objecting?''
Schlfckman: ''Ifve 'got tô.'l
Speaker Bradley: HWe11, on the basfs of what rulep Mr. Schlickman?''
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Schlickman: ''House Resolution 642 does not appear on the Calendar;
and the rules do provide, I belfeve, that any natter to be con-
sidered by this House must appear on the Calendar; or in thei
alternative: there must be a motion to suspend the rules for
immediate consideratton.'' %
Speaker Bradley: 'llt would be helpful to the Chafr, could you state
the rule numbqr Lf you have ft bandyr'f
Schlickman: ''We11 I would refer in the matter.gm''
Speaker Bradley: HCould you hold off just a minute? We'll get the
rule. It would appear in probably Rule //8. The daily Calendar
shall be printed showing Billsy Resolutions... The Gentleman
from Cook, Mr. Houliîan.''
Houlihan: ''Mr. Speakery I would move the suspension of Rule 8 so that
we may consider tbis matter fmmediately.'f
Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman moves the suspension of Rule /18. Is
there discussion on the Gentleman's motion? Hearing noney a11
in favor... is there leave to use the Attendance Rolt Call?
Hearfng no objectionsy the Attendance Roll Ca1l... there are ob-
Jections? A11 right. A11 in favor of the Gentleman's motion
to suspend the rule signify by voting 'aye' and opposed by voting
gno'. Have a11 voted who wfshed? Have a11 voted who wished?
The Clerk will take the record. 0n thts question we have l04
'ayes'y 24 'nays'. For what purpose does the Geatleman from
Cook, Mr. Jaffe, arise?''
Jaffe: ''Could the... could the Speaker tell me how many votes this
motion takes?''
Speaker Bradley: :189 Sir, to suspend the rule. On this questfon there
are 104 'ayes' 24 rnays' and the Gentleman's motion prevails.9
So now werre back to t:e Gentleman from Cook. Mr. Madigan/'
Ffadigan: f'Mr. Speaker: I've already explained the provisions of the
proposed rule change relative to Interim Study.Bills and also
to Commt'ttee Bills. The Appropriation Bills will be exempt from
the deadline schedule which is establféhed in the rule for a11
other Bflls. Andy Mr. Speaker, that concludes my explanation/ï
Speaker Bradley : ê'Discussfon? The Gentleman 'f rom Christiany Mr. Ttpsword.''
. Tipsword: 'Ylr. speaker, this llas Just been laid on our desks some short
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time ago without an opportunity to really look this over by the
Membership and it appears to me from just a cursory exnm4nation
of tbis House Resolution 642 it makes liars out of the Chairmen
of various Committees who have indicated to people that Lf'Bills i
were placed fn Interim Study Committee: they would be heard or
have an opportunity to be heard and to bh reported back out ontol
the floor of the House fn those Comm4ttees. I know I have so 11
reported under the rules as they existed and have existed in
this House during this Session. And if thfs passesy ft appears 1
to me that I would have to turn to everybody who has a Bill ïn
Interfm Study Commfttee and the Insurance Committee and say to
. them, 'I'm sorry, but the rules have been changed in the middle
of the game and what I told you fs absolutely not true. Your
Bill's not going to get out and not be reported.'''
Speaker Bradley: 'slurther discussion? 'fhe Centleman from Dupage,
Mr. Schneider/'
Schneider: f'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House. I share '
Reprçsentative Tipsword's concern about the frankness of our
attftude toward Interim Study a couple of months ago. What
this Amendment does in relationship to those Bills fs to pretty
much simply say, #We presumed that everybody would have %ad
their Interim Study Bill heard by the date stated in this
Resolution.' Thar presumptfon fs erroneous ohviously, and now
we're being squeezed into a period of time that limits us not
only by the boundaries of the natural process that we are fa-
miliar wfth fn the Legfslature, but also now we're distorting
what was the orfginal concern about Interim Study. Those Mem-
bers that wanted to hear their Bills had the opportunity cer-
tainly since July of last year to deal with it but for some#
reason could not. But ncg that we are downstate and nearing
a full-blown Session, what weRre really sayfng to tbem is ft's
getting kind of late for that. We won't be able to hear the
Interim Bills and we're going to be very selective about what I!1we hear. I think ït again does exactly as Representative Tfpsword i
Isaysy changes the rules in the mfddle of the game: and I tbink
that says very little about our abilfty to be candid and out
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front to the Mesbers as well as to the publicy and I would op-
pose the ResoluLiong''
Speaker Bradley: R'The Gentleman fron Cook, Mr. llahar/'
Mabar: 'îThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.
I rise in support of this... tules and particularly in respect
to the Interim Study B111s. It just seems to me that ff you had
an Interim Study Bill that went to Interfm Study last July l I
or before July 1, you'd have adequate tfme to ask the Comm#ttee
Chairman to appofnt a Subcommittee to hear that particular Bi11.
And those people who are serious about thefr Bills, I'm sure
are... either have tbe... have hearings scheduled at thfs point
or have had them in the past. And 1 think they show that therefs
a process in which they want to move with the Bill and have it
moved out. Those people of the six huadred aad some Bills tNat
are on the Calendar fn the varfous Committees that have had no
action, ft seems to me at thfs late date to come along and want
to have soue Committee hearings is a little bit late and they
aren't really that serious about the Bflls. And for that reasona
I don't think they should be considered.''
Speaker Bradley: uThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Jaffe.n
Jaffe: ''Would the Sponsor yield to a question?''
Speaker Bradkey: HHe indicates he w111.''
Jaffe: ''Would yov explain Item C under House Resolutfon 642 to us?''
Speaker Bradley: îfWelre waiting for Mr. Madfgan to reply.ov''
Madigan: ''And the answer fs that this language is simply implementa-
tfon of tbe concept proposed by the Resolution. That ff the
B111y in fact, is exempt under the proposed ruley why theny
the Commi-ttee c'an proceed to consider the Bill when we retura
oa April 5. On the other handy if under the proposed rule the
Billy fn fact, fs not exempt, then we are providing that t*e
Bi1l must appear before rhe Rules Comma*ttee and obtain an exemp-
tion from the Rules Committee from the ruleso''
Speaker Bradley: îtr. Jaffe-''
Jaffe: ''Let me say, Ifd like a lfttle attention. Mr. Speaker-''
Speaker Bradley: ''Give the Gentleman some order please.''i
Jaffe: ''It would seem to me as I read Rule 60... Rule C there. it seems
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to me that anything in Interim Study, anything really that is
in a Comma*ttee way cannot be discharged from Committee until
after July 1. Isn't that correct?ê'(
Madigan: ''That fs correct. The avenue for consideration would be
through the..'''
Jaffe: 9'We1l, if I may just address the motion.n
Speaker Bradley: ''You certainty may, Sirsll
Jaffe: 'fYeah, I think that House Resolution 642 is really an atrocity,
I must tell you that. Basically what we're saying fs weVre saying
to the people of this state that weere not gofng to be studyfng
school finance anymorey we're not going to be studytng problems
in our mental health institutions. A11 weVre going to do is
welre going to cut off everything and make ft impossible. really
impossible for everybody to dfscharge a Committee or for any-
body to get a Bi1l out that we ltave to really discuss. You knalz,
I think that we have some hard decisions to make in the coming
year. I think we have bard decisions to make wtth regard to
Chfldren and Family Services. I think we have hard decisions
to make on school finance. I think we bave hard decisions to
make with regard to the mental instftutions. And if we adopt
thfs Resolutfon, I think what wefre really saying to the people
of ïllinois is we don't really care to adopt anytning. We really
don't want to address those problems. We want to have potttics
as usual.. We want to give tbe Governor a free ride and I think
if any Democrat votes for House Resolution 642, he ought to quft
the Democratic Party/'
Speaker Bradley: ''The Centleman from Cook, Mr. Telcser/'
Telcser: fNr. Speaker and Members of the House, ever since we went
to annual Sessfons some years ago, weVve always been faced with
the dflemma as to how to conduct our business in the even num-
bered years. There's been no real opposition to tryfng to have
an orderly procedure whenever this Assembly meets, particularly
with the appropriation process. And most of the people who have
been fntimately fnvolved with the process agree thad the even
numbered year ought to have as much as possible the princfpalI
amount of fts attention paid to that reveaue and appropriation
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process. Wefve always been facèd with the conflict and dilèmmn
of how expanded or how much of a Sessfon we ought to have in
the even numbered year. Nowy I think that the... thfs Resolu-
tion strikes a good balance. That is that if you had a Btll E
. in Interim Study Committee at tbe time of adjournment and it iwas heard, that Bill fs alfve and that Bill is exenpt from the ë
rule of having your Bill gofng to the Rules Commzettee in order
to see kf it could be exempted. So I think we should be looking
at a ' broad program, ra ' broad pfcture of how to conduct the
business of this Legislature. It has absolutely nothing wbatever
to do with politicsy no matter who may or may not be the Gov-
ernor or no matter who may or may not be the Majority Party or
the Speaker of tbis House. It sfmply... it simply fs about time
that we did everythfng possfble to bring an orderlyy deliberative
procedure to what we do in the General Assembly. The more weVre
fn Sessiony the more days we spend fn Sessfony the easier it is
for us to fall into the... into the pattern of considering al1
kinds of Bills, no matter when we come into Session. I don't
think there's a Member of tbis General Assembly who does not
admit privately, ff not publicly, that the amount of time we
can spend or the attention we give to the appropriatfon process
whfch afzer a11 fs the heart of what werre doing is adequate.
It is totally inadequate. And one of the reasons weVre faced
witb shortcomfngs and inadequate time and inadequate attentfon
we can pay to that process is because we'll always have substan-
tive legislation to consider. So again I repeaty in my judg-
ment, I think we have struck a reasonably good balance betweea
substantive legislationywhich could be considered in this year;
and yet, we are able to devote the majority of our time and at-
tention to those matters dealing with appropriations and revenue.
And so, I really think in a11 due respect to the people who area
in a sense, talking about a full-blown Session, which by the
way fs where I have always in the past been: I think wefve re-
speeted their wishes and yet have... and yet We're setting the
. precedent to leave most of the time available to us to the revenue!
appropriation process.. And Is for one. am going to support House
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Resolutfon 642.''
Speaker Bradley: OThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Barnes. Would those I
people surrounding Mr. Barnes...''I
E. Barnes: f'Thank you very much.eo'' lSpeaker Bradley: 'fsit down and give him a littlg room.''
E. Barnes: ''We11, Mr. Speaker and Members of tbe House, my problem
wit: this as has been indicated early on is that we just got
it on tbe desks. Now, tbere is some confusfoa here. Fart of
the... two things that I1m concerned about. 0ne fs relative
to Bflls in Interim Study that would require a change now ia
the midstream because some of us have legislation there. 1:
for one, have legislation there. And they have not been heard
because of certain extenuatfng cfrcùmstances relatfve te t:e
piece of legtslation I have there that was a governmental Com-
uission upon it dealing with that subject matter and thaz's the
onty reason that that Bill has not been heard. Now, under these
rules if that Bill is not heard by April 5, it's going to require
me to go back through a process that was noty did not exist when
tbat legislation was introduced. I think that what veVte doing
here is we're changing borses in midstream and werre going to
make ft extremely hard for us to follow legfslatioa that we have
worked on for some time. I think agafn, also, new legfslation
that would be involved fn making certain klnds of chanses other
than approprfations and finance would have... would create a
real hardship on the proposal of the language as now embodied
fn this rule change. I vould solicft that we either or be given
some time to look at the wording in this change or othérwise I would
have to solicit opposition of this particular rule change at
this point.''
Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Mahar, for what purpose
do you rfse, Sir?''
Mabar: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the purpose of an introductioao''
Speaker Bradley: ''Give the Gentleman some order. Proceed, Sirol'
Mahar: ''Ladies and centlemen of the House, ft's my privilege to intro-
duce to the Mouse a colleague. â former colleague of ours, one
I'm sure many of you know from the... my area of the south Cook
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County who is running for Congress in the 3rd Congressional Dis-
trfcts Bob Dunn.'' Ispeaker Bradley: ''Further discussion on the Resolution? The Gentle-
man from Sangamons Mr. Kane.''(
Kane: ''Would the Sponsor yield to a question?''
speaker Bradley: ''He indicates that he wi11.1'i
Kane: ''subsection 6 of this rule says that Subsection B and C may hot i
,, 1be suspended at a11 even with 107 votes. Is that correct? I
Madigan: ''Thatls correct.''
Kane: ''Does that mean then that for a B111 to be considered it has '
to be... have either the approval of the... a majority of the
Rules Committee or be a Committee Bill evea if an extraordinary
majority of the Mouse decided that it was an important Bill and
should be heard?'î
Nadigan: HI didu't bear the Gentleman's questicno''
speaker Bradley: ''Would you repeat the question. Mr. Kane?''
Kane: î'Does that mean that a Bill in order to be heard bas to either
have a majority of the Committee to which it's assigned or talk
some Comma-ttee into sponsoring the Bfll or have a majority of
the Rules Committee approve it even though a majority of... an
extraordinary majority of the House may think that it's an im-
portant Bi11, it stfll could not be heard?'î
Madigan: nSo far the centlemanls questlon states the rule, Mr. Speakeroê'
Kane: HI mean, is there any reason why l07 Members should not be able
to suspend Subsection B and C?''
speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Kane, are you asking another question of the...n
Kane: ''YesJ1
speaker Bradley: HHe was... Hr. Madigan: there was anotber question
by Mr. Kane.''
Kane: 'îl'm wondering why youfre saying that Subsections B and C can-
not be suspended even with the vote of 107 Members. That seems
to be putting an extremely tight straitlacket on the Houseo''
Madigan: ''The intent ôf this Amendment is to establish the type of
Session that we have always had in the even numbered year Ses-
sfons since Ifve been a Member of the House beginning in 1971.
Never in my memory have we considered the even numbered years
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Sesstons to be anything close to t:e odd numbered years Sessioni
where we would consider a11 leglslation. Traditionally, wefve 5t
always treated the even numbered Sessfons as primarily concerned l
with budgetary matters and also with items considered to be of !
an emergency nature or of a substantial importance to government. iAnd therefore, the focus of this proposed Amendment fs to struc-
ture what has become the traditional even numbered year Session.n
Kane: HMr. Speaker, Ladfes and Centlemen of the House.î'
' Speaker Bradley: ''Proceedy Sfr-''
Kane: NGiven the tremendously strict limitatfons that this proposed
rùle gives us, remfnds me ef the last time thàt we had this kind
of rule that could not be suspended whieh was the last time that
we had a jotnt rule of the House and Senate for whfch tbere was
no provision for suspension of those rules. And I remember the
kind of frustration that we had fn the House at that time be-
cause tbere were Bills that a majority of the Meabers of the
' House thought should be handled and there was no way of getting
' to that because the joint rules could not be suspended. And ff
we had thfs provisfon in these House rules, that Subsections
5 and C cannot be suspended even wftb an affirmative vote of
107 Members, I think tbat that's putting us in a straitjacket
that h'e Jannot remove. And I woulf urge. the defeat of this Re-
solutfon at this time with this kind of provisioa in 1tJ'
Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from McRearyy Mr. Skinner-''
Skfnner: eYr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this Amendment to the rules.
The preceding speaker from Sangamon County has, as usual, under-
stated the enormity of the theft from the Menbership of power
that this rule wi1l... will result fn. Representative Jaffe
has told us what welre talling the people of the State of I1-
lfnofs. Well, basfcally you#re telling the people of the State
of Illfnois that Lf you have a problem, you'd better have the '
problem in an odd numbered year because any crisfs that comes
fn even numbered years, unless the power brokers on the Rules
Committee agree wfth that crists, is not gofng to get coasfdered.
So what webre saying is if we pass this Resolution is that we!
are in favor of concentratfng power in the Rules Committee. 0ae
items and items of an emergency nature or of substantfal impor-
tance to government. This proposal by recognizing that Interfm
Study Bills where the Sponsor has demonstrated an interest in
that Bi11 over the summer by conducting a publfc hearing ought
to be exempt. And secoidly, it recognizes that Committee Bills
where the primary Sponsor of the Committee Bill has worked with
the Committee over the summer and now is fn a position to cause
that Committee to introduce its Committee Bills ought to be exempt
also. Given tbose two exemptionsy I believe that we have struck
a good compromise between these two extreme views and that we
ought to adopt this Amendment to the ruleso'f
Speaker Bradley: HThe question is: the adoption of the House Resolu-
tion 642. A11 in favor of the adoption of the Resolution will
signify by voting 'aye', opposed by votfng 'nog. The Gentle-
man from Lake, Mr. Griesheimer, and I apologize, Sir. The light
is not flashfng up here. Is your light flashing?''
Griesheimer: Hily light is flashing, Mr. Speaker. I'd appreciate it
if somebody would check thato''
Speaker Bradley: f'Weîl1 check it betweea now and April 5. The Gentle-
man from Lake: Mr. Griesheimers to explafn his vote.''
Grfeshefmer: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. I did want to have the oppor-
tunfty when this Bf11 was being debated to ask the Sponsor of
the measu're as the Majorityieader why they would suggest this proce-
dure. In actuality, there's no doubt why thèylre suggestfag
thfs procedure. The Committee which is charged with making the
rules wants to break the rules. And that's just the sqay it's
been down here for about the last four or five years. Those
people who have tbe authority want to have the authority to their
best interests but not to the interests of the people of the
State of Illinois. It's been my experience that ln the second
year down here, we handled three types of Bills - approprfation.
revenue and emergency matters. It's also been my experience that
the only thing thatls an emergeacy matter are those Bills spon-
sored by the Leadershlp. Now thatîs just not the case. The
Leadership of this Legislature has not done the job ln the last
four or five years as fs pretty evident by the problems the State
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of Illinois faces. There are a number of good Bills languishing
fn Subcommq'ttees and on lnterim Study Committees tbat we were
promïsed last year would be givea a full opportunity for hearing
in the spring. We were told that there would be no new Bills
allowed to be fntroduced in the spring, but these Bills were
a11 introduced this last year. I think ft would be very inap-
propriate at this time to turn over any more power to the people
who have already abused that power. I think thfs Bill should
be soundly killed and this rule should not be cbanged.l'
Speaker Bradley: 'lThe Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Jaffe, to explaia hisi
vote . '' i
IJaffe: 'Mr. Speakery 1 have already spoken on the subject, sokl'don'tthfnk I can explafn my vote, but I would lfke to be recognized i
for a verification of the Roll Call if this does receive 89 votes/'' 1
Speaker Bradley: ''You wfll be so recognfzed, Sbr. Have a11 voted who
wfshed? Have a11 voted who wished? The Clerk will take the
record. 0n this question we have 97 'ayes', 39 'nays', and 8
voting 'present'. And the Centleman requests verification of
the Roll. Representatfve Madigany do you wish to have a poll
of the absenteesy Sir? Mr. èhdfgan requests a poll of the ab-
sentees and the Clerk w11l call the absentees. For what pur-
pose the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowiczy ariseq''
Lechowicz: HHas there been a request to poll the absentees?'f
Speaker Bradley: 'lThere's been a request to do that, yes.''
Lechowfcz: ''A11 right, thank you-''
Clerk O'Brien: ''Jane Barnes.''
Speaker Bradley: HJust a minute. What purpose the Gentleman from Cooky
Mr. Schlickman, arise?''
Schlickman: 'Yr. Speaker, dîd you indicate 89 votes would be required
for the adoptfon of thls Resolution?''
Speaker Bradley: HNobody's asked that yet, Sir.''I
Schlickman: RlHow many Votes are requfred?f'
Speaker Bradley: 1189.11iISchlickman: ''And that's on the baéis of what? If three-fifths of the
' Membersbfp of the Rules Commfttee vote in support of tbis or a'
d tion to adopty'' 'recommen a
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Speaker Bradley: NIfm informed the answer to your question is 'yes',
but fs irrelevant.''
Schlfckman: ''We11, I don't think it fs. 1 think it ought to be in
the record to support the ruling of 89 votes.''
Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lecbowicz.'' l
Lechowfcz: HTo answer the question there, Representative Schlickman, j'it was unanimous by the Rules Commn'ttee. Unaninous-''
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3. iPage Time speaker Information
Madigan Motfon to suspend rules
Speaker Bradley
Ryan Question
20 Madigan Discussion
Ryan Oppose
Madigan Kithdraws motion
Speaker Bradley
Tipsword
Speaker Bradleyl .
Ryan
Speaker Bradley
' Tipsword Move to suspend rules onH.B. 2435
Speaker Bradley
Schlickman Questfon '
21 Tfpsword Dfscussion
Speaker Bradley Motfon carries
Tfpsword H.B. 2435. motion
1:12 Speaker Bradley House accepts Gov. recommendatl n
22 Mudd Introductlon
Speaker Bradley
Clerk Hall Introduction and 1st Reading
Speaker Bradley House fn order
' 1:30 Clerk o'Brfen Committee Reports
Speaker Bradley
Madfgan H.R. 642, motion
23 Speaker Bradley
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4. IPage Ttme Speaker lnformaLion
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Madigan
Speaker Bradley
24 Scblickman
Speaker Aradley
D. Houlihan Move to suspend rule #8
. Speaker Bradley Any objections?
Jaffe Parliamentary inquiry
Speaker Bradley Motion prevafls
Madigan
Speaker Bradley
Tipsword
25 Speaker Bradley
1:38 Schneider
26 Speaker Bradley
Mahar
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Madigan
27 ' Speaker Bradley
Jaffe Yfeld?
. Madfgan Discusston
Speaker Bradley
28 Telcser
29 Speaker Bradley
Barnes
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6.Paqe Time Speaker lnformation
Speaker Bradley
Clerk OfBrien Proceeds with absentees
Speaker Bradley
Katz Leave to be verified
Speaker Bradley
Clerk OfBrien Proceeds
2:10 Speaker Bradley
Adams Wishes to be verified
Speaker Bradley
Simms
Speaker Bradley
38 Clerk O'Brien Proceeds%
Speaker Bradley
l Clerk O'Brien Reads Affirmative vote
Speaker Bradley
Cunningham Leave to be verified
Speaker Bradley
39 Houlihan Waht's the count?
Speaker Bradley 114 'ayes' 39 'naysf. >
Jaffe Withdraws verification
Speaker Bradley Resolution adopted
Madigan Requests stand at ease
Speaker Bradley
Ewell H.B. 2481: motion
Speaker Bradley
Ryan Objects
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