Donovan Cavers' texts and emails4

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Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... 2015-09-29, 9:27 AM

Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

From: To:

Arjun Singh <[email protected]> Donovan Cavers<[email protected]>

CC: Peter Milobar<[email protected]>; David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

Date: Sunday - August 30, 2015 3:42 PM Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

I'm incredibly saddened and shocked by Donovan's response below and feel compelled to express a desire to see some strong formal censure for th is behaviour. Arjun

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE PACIFIC WAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!

... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now ... imagine moving on to something else?

Donovan Cavers Kamloops City Counci llor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264

Our public service mission is ... MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE

On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Peter Milobar <[email protected]> wrote:

Donovan,

Your email is beyond unprofessional. It is one thing to question yet again SLR as the consultant.

However I can not believe, or sit quiet, as you not only question Mr. Trawin's professionalism but also his choice of investments and where he may or may not choose to live. The topper is a not so subtle and totally crass comment trying to direct him to divest of stocks of his choosing for his private investment reasons.

Your comments and add on's in this email and many others ( using an asterisk doesn't make the swearing better) are in my opinion continually treading a fine line. I would suggest we meet to go over what appropriate communications are .

You can choose not to but I would point out that other cities Counci ls have had to wind up putting members under censure and I would frankly not be opposed to looking into this if these types of comments and email tones continue.

Peter Milobar Mayor, City of Kamloops

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Jen and David,

For context the quote I posted in the original email is apparently pulled directly off of the SLR website ... doesn't bode well for their ability to look in-depth at the probable city wide negatives associated with the project being approved. And I say negatives because the company wi ll without a doubt cover off the 'positives' in the 'lovely' docomements that they submit to the BCEAO .

.. . I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?

Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .

.. . the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?

David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange

... At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your investment choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".

Donovan

On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

I will leave it to Jen to comment

David Trawin Chief Administrative Officer City of Kamloops

On Aug 29, 2015, at 1 :52 AM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi David,

Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top comment' posted on the new online publication?

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"News Kamloops"

... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News Kam loops"

thanks,

Donovan Cavers Kamloops City Councillor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264

Our public setvice mission is ... MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE

Our corporate mission is ...

MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE

2015-09-29, 9:27 AM

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From: To:

Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Peter Milobar<[email protected]>

CC: Date:

David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]> Sunday-August 30, 2015 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE PACIFIC WAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL! !!

... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now .. .imagine moving on to something else?




Donovan,



Your comments and add on's in this email and many others ( using an asterisk doesn't make the swearing better) are in my opinion continually treading a fine line. I would suggest we meet to go over what appropriate communications are.

You can choose not to but I would point out that other cities Councils have had to wind up putting members under censure and I would frankly not be opposed to looking into this if these types of comments and email tones continue.



Jen and David,

For context the quote I posted in the original email is apparently pulled directly off of the SLR website ... doesn't bode well for their ability to look in-depth at the probable city wide negatives associated with the project being approved. And I say negatives because the company will without a doubt cover off the 'positives' in the 'lovely' docomements that they submit to the BCEAO .

... I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to

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"satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?


... the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?

David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oi l, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange


Donovan





Hi David,

Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top comment' posted on the new on line publication?

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"News Kamloops"

... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News Kamloops"

thanks,



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From: To: Date:

Peter Milobar <[email protected]> Arjun Singh<[email protected]> Saturday - August 29, 2015 2:03 PM


Good to know. I didn't realize. I thought it had just been be cd to me


On Aug 29, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Arjun Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

Think it was good to include council as we were also bcced on the original email.

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Peter Milobar <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks I debated including council into the reply but I do really have concerns especially when it went into his investments and depending how you want to look at it direction to sell his stocks or else. Wanted to make sure you were all aware.


On Aug 29, 2015, at 1 :43 PM, Arjun Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

Totally agree with you Peter. Thanks for trying to get this very disrespectful behaviour back into line.

Sent from my iPhone


Donovan ,




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Jen and David,


... I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?



David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil , gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange


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Donovan





Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,





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From: To: Date: Subject:

Peter Milobar <[email protected]> Arjun Singh<[email protected]> Saturday - August 29, 2015 1 :58 PM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

Thanks I debated including council into the reply but I do really have concerns especially when it went into his investments and depending how you want to look at it direction to sell his stocks or else. Wanted to make sure you were all aware.



Totally agree with you Peter. Thanks for trying to get this very disrespectful behaviour back into line.

Sent from my iPhone


Donovan,







Jen and David,


... I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the

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Re: (not urgen t) Ajax ...

post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?



David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]) because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange


Donovan


I wi ll leave it to Jen to comment



Hi David ,


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"News Kamloops"

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thanks,

Donovan Cavers Kamloops City Counci llor [email protected]

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@donovancavers 250.852.2264




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From: To: CC: Date:

Peter Milobar <[email protected]> Donovan Cavers<dcaversx@city. kamloops. be.ca> David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

Saturday - August 29, 2015 9:39 AM


Donovan ,







Jen and David,




... the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?

David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavi ly weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange

.. . At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your investment choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".

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Re: (not urgent) Ajax .. .

Donovan





Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,





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Re: (not urgent) Ajax . .. 2015-09-29, 9:28 AM


From: To:

Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Arjun Singh<[email protected]>

CC: David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; Peter Milobar<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

Date: Sunday-August 30, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

??? Based on the conversation we just had that is your way of playing judge and jury ???

#unreal



On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Arjun Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm incredibly saddened and shocked by Donovan's response below and feel compelled to express a desire to see some strong formal censure for this behaviour. Arjun

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE PACIFIC WAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!

... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now .. .imagine moving on to something else?




Donovan,

Your email is beyond unprofessional. It is one thing to question yet again SLR as the

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consultant.






Jen and David ,



Despite the way I might come across .. . you are the director of the most challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .

. . . the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?

David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!! !! #climatechange


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Re: (not urgent) Ajax . ..

Donovan





Hi David ,


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big 'Freud ian Sl ip' if you jump the vid eo forward to the " 11 :43' mark ...

big "Freudian Slip" if you jump the video forward to the "11 :43" mark ...

From: Date: Subject:

Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Monday - August 31 , 2015 8:42 PM big "Freudian Slip" if you jump the video forward to the "11 :43" mark ...

http://www.ajaxmine.ca/ajax-project-press-conference-2013-08-02

2015-09-29, 10:32 AM

Schleiermacher wanted me to circulate this video to you ... media must be holding this "under their hats" or something because it wasn't well reported ...

Donovan

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Re: Hi Donovan ... 2015-09-29, 10:46 AM

Re: Hi Donovan ...

From: To: CC: Date:

Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Arjun Singh<[email protected]> Donovan Cavers<[email protected]> Sunday - August 30, 2015 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: Hi Donovan ...

#PublicRepresentative

.. .funnel what I feel through to CAO and staff ...


Our public service mission is .. . MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE


I am starting as Ajax comes to a head.

As Peter, I was totally shocked to read your email to David and Jen. And I support his email back to you. You may feel like you are representing the people who elected you to oppose Ajax on council but you are drastically diminishing your effectiveness to be a good representative of their views.

I'm here to help if you want to try to get back on a good footing, if you feel I could be of help. I know you want to do what is good and right. But holy moly, another email like that, and I got little hope for a third chance for you. I am pretty sure you know that.

A

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(not urgent) Re: A commercial establishment ? 2015-09-29, 10:47 AM

(not urgent) Re: A commercial establishment ?

From: To: CC: Date: Subject:

David,

Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> <[email protected]><[email protected]> Donovan Cavers<[email protected]> Monday - August 31, 2015 12:52 AM (not urgent) Re: A commercial establishment?

I'm sorry for my email mentioning your annual finance disclosure. and I was operating on almost no sleep. Please let me know if you've had a chance to receive my apology.

Thank you for the good work you do every day at City Hall and for the good people you find and hire to do the same!

Donovan




It was a property up in knutsford across Peterson Creek



I don't get it???



On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, David Trawin <[email protected]> wrote:

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(not urgent) Re: A commerc ial estab lishment ?

based upon a previous inquiry by you ... giving you an update

David Trawin, MCIP Chief Administrative Officer CITY OF KAMLOOPS 250-828-3497 [email protected]


MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE »> Randy Lambright 28/08/2015 2:30 PM >» Hi Dave .... sorry for the delay in providing an update on your question regarding this property. Dave J has visited the site and has had discussions with both the property owner and the Ministry of Energy, Mines and Resources. For the most part, the activities occurring on the site are in keeping with resource extraction/gravel pit operations. Reclamation of the site is also occurring, as seen in the photo, and has been verified by Dave. The owner is aware that the storage of equipment and materials unrelated to a gravel pit operation is prohibited. Dave will be monitoring the site on a regular basis to ensure compliance. Further, Dave will be following up with Acres Enterprise as they are leasing the site and working the approved gravel pit. I trust this helps. Randy


MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE »> David Trawin <[email protected]> 6/9/2015 12:43 PM»> Any update on this


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From: "Donovan Cavers" <[email protected]> To : "David Trawin" <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: A commercial establishment?

Hi David,

Could you have someone look into this? (see email below)

Thanks, Donovan

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From: To: "Donovan Cavers" <[email protected]> Subject: A commercial establishment ?

Hi Donavan,

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(not urgent) Re: A commercial establishment ?


I have a question for you if you can help it would be appreciated. I live on and across my very peaceful back yard facing Peterson creek is this new development you see in the picture between the two trees. It is being built on an old unused gravel pit. There has been reclamation done as you can see but here is my worry. The reclamation started last year and at the same time a very slow construction period which this year has been at basically a standstill. I don't know what will be built and how quiet this operation will be but I am starting to think that the pause is connected to the mine which is not far from this place. Is this operation connected to the proposed mine? If yes it could imply that this beautiful area might be destroyed and converted to industrial usage ... l hope I am wrong but all this recent inactivity seems a little strange. if the project gets the green light will this operate to serve the mine ? Right in the heart of a beautiful residential area? And if this goes ahead who is to stop more commercial and industrial development in the surrounding area. Again I might be paranoid but if you can provide some information about this site it would be very much appreciated.

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