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Does ECMO Actually Work? Jeffrey DellaVolpe, MD San Antonio Advanced Lung Symposium December 7, 2019 1 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM Does ECMO Actually Work? Jeffrey DellaVolpe Director, Methodist ECMO Program Medical Director, Cardiovascular ICU 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM What is the purpose of ECMO? 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM Does ECMO actually work? 1972 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM Does ECMO actually work? No! 10% survival in both groups! 2019 SAN ANTONIO ADVANCED LUNG SYMPOSIUM What went wrong? 10 days of mechanical ventilation prior to ECMO! High vent pressures/FiO2 in both groups 2L/day of bleeding & 2.5L/day transfusion requirement! Irreversible lung fibrosis at autopsy 1 2 3 4 5 6
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Page 1: Does ECMO Actually Work? - AntidoteCME.com · 2019. 12. 6. · Does ECMO Actually Work? Jeffrey DellaVolpe, MD San Antonio Advanced Lung Symposium December 7, 2019 4 2019SAN ANTONIO

Does ECMO Actually Work?Jeffrey DellaVolpe, MD

San Antonio Advanced Lung SymposiumDecember 7, 2019 1

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Does ECMO Actually Work?Jeffrey DellaVolpe

Director, Methodist ECMO Program

Medical Director, Cardiovascular ICU

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What is the purpose of ECMO?

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Does ECMO actually work?

1972

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Does ECMO actually work?

No!

10% survival in both groups!

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What went wrong?

10 days of mechanical ventilation prior to ECMO!

High vent pressures/FiO2 in both groups

2L/day of bleeding & 2.5L/day transfusion requirement!

Irreversible lung fibrosis at autopsy

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ECMO Trials

• Zapol. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation in severe acute respiratory failure. A randomized prospective study. JAMA 1979

• Gattinoni. Low‐Frequency Positive‐Pressure Ventilation With Extracorporeal CO2 Removal in Severe Acute Respiratory Failure. JAMA 1986

• Morris. Randomized clinical trial of pressure‐controlled inverse ratio ventilation and extracorporeal CO2 removal for adult respiratory distress syndrome. Am J Respir Crit Care Med 1994

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ECMO over the next 20 years….

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ECMO over the next 20 years….

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ECMO Trials

• Zapol. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation in severe acute respiratory failure. A randomized prospective study. JAMA 1979

• Gattinoni. Low‐Frequency Positive‐Pressure Ventilation With Extracorporeal CO2 Removal in Severe Acute Respiratory Failure. JAMA 1986

•Morris. Randomized clinical trial of pressure‐controlled inverse ratio ventilation and extracorporeal CO2 removal for adult respiratory distress syndrome. Am J Respir Crit Care Med 1994

• Peek. Efficacy and economic assessment of conventional ventilatorysupport versus extracorporeal membrane oxygenation for severe adult respiratory failure (CESAR): a multicentre randomisedcontrolled trial. Lancet 2009

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63% v. 47% survival at 6 months without disability 

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Also happening in 2009…

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San Antonio Advanced Lung SymposiumDecember 7, 2019 3

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201 influenza patients68 supported by ECMO

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2009: the debate intensifies…

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2009: the debate intensifies…

• Large, pragamaticstudy

• 63% v. 47% survival

• Cost effective

• 24% of patients transferred to an ECMO center did not receive ECMO

• Higher tidal volumes at non-ECMO centers

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Protocolized ECMO delivery

Protocolized mechanicalventilation

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EOLIA results

Mortality 35% v 46%

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As opposed to 2009, no controversies in 2018…

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EOLIA results – not so simple…

Mortality 35% v 46% 28% crossover

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EOLIA results – not so simple…

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Are we asking the right question?

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Periphery

Pressure

Hydrostatic pressure

Edema

Interstitium

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Asking the right question: what are we treating?

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Asking the right question: what are we treating?

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Asking the right question: should severity be the reason for choosing ECMO?

P:F ratio

Oxygenation index

Refractory hypercapnea

Murray score

PIPER score

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Asking the right question: should severity be the reason for choosing ECMO?

28% crossover

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Does ECMO actually work?

Improper use of technology?

No diagnosis used in selection

Severity necessitated ECMO in all trials

Assumption that ARDS was reason we needed ECMO

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Does ECMO actually work?

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Is ECMO on the decline?

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Is ECMO on the decline?

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Maybe it should be?

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Post cardiotomy shock

“24 studies, 1926 patients, overall survival rate to discharge of 30.8%”

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Are we asking the right question?

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Are we asking the right question?

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Cardiogenic shock

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PERCUTANEOUS

VASOACTIVEDrugs

VA ECMO

MEDICAL Management

IABP Tandem Heart

CentrimagLVAD

Heart Ware

TAH

SURGICAL

HM IIIHeartmateII

CirculiteLVAD

Impella

ECMO as spectrum of mechanical circulatory

support

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Amount of vasopressor support needed

Mortality

Mortality and vasopressor requirement in cardiogenic shock

40%

20%

60%

80%

100%

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ECMO for ventilation support

Mechanical ventilation

Driving pressure

Tidal volumes

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CO2 clearance in ECMO

Gas

Blood

pO2 = 713

PaO2 = 40

pCO2 = 0

PaCO2 = 45

O2

BLOOD FLOW

SvO2

70%SaO2

100%

CO2

PaCO2

45PaCO2

<5

Bottom line:While oxygen increase by ECMO circuit is limited to 30%, CO2 can be decreased by almost 100%!

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New patient populations for ECMO?

ECMO

Mechanical ventilation

Driving pressure

Tidal volumes

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Asthma

Unable to ventilateUnable to oxygenateObstruction with  HD instability

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Failure to intubate?

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Prevention of intubation?

Mechanical ventilation

Delirium/encephalopath

y

Progressive weakness/d

ebility

Vent dependence

Tracheostomy

Long term acute care

Frailty

Death

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Bridge to transplant

ECMO as BTT

Cannulationonce listed to 

reduce vent/sedation

Rescue for patients on ECMO with 

failure to wean

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Bridge to transplant

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Facilitate rehabilitation

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Extracorporeal CPR (ECPR)

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ECPR

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Prehospital identification for ECPR?

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Pulmonary Embolism

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Complex airway

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Complex airway

Elective ECMO use for induction anesthesia or surgery

ECMO use during airway obstruction due to life‐threatening massive hemoptysis

Emergency use for arrest w/ induction/

surgery

Deployment in the setting of life-threatening massive

hemoptysis

Elective ECMO use for induction or surgery

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High risk electrophysiology procedures

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Post transplant

Primary graft dysfunction

Right heart failure

VasodilationIschemic/reperfusion injury

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Right heart failure post VAD

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Regionalized ECMO Care

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What kind of tool is ECMO?

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Questions?

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