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    Vishal Bhatia

    security analyst.. hisviewpoints

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    stories..

    wealth creation

    wealth destruction

    hubris

    magicians

    vandals

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    .. because of demand

    and supply

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    wealth

    economics

    money

    finance

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    what keeps a security

    analyst awake..

    trade should be profitable

    trade profitable if company profitableat least demand should exist

    duhh! Vish..

    Off course!

    have capacity to supply atprofit

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    selling price no max the more the merrier

    minimum selling price = Any greater thanmarginal cost

    What is marginal cost? the cost of produzzzing oneezzzztra unit..zzzzz.zzzzz!!

    Sponge Iron 2200 / Ton

    Ore 1500 / Ton

    Coal 850 / Ton

    Electricity 200 / Ton

    Operators 100 / Ton

    Total Op Cost 2550 / Ton

    Dem Supp

    MP

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    Not Necessarily a company

    Takes positions on produce directly in the market

    Industrial

    Grade

    Food Grade

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    demand rises supply constant => prices rise

    demand constant supply rises => prices fall

    demand rises supply rises => prices steady

    demand falls supply constant => prices fall

    demand constant supply falls => prices rise

    demand falls supply falls => prices steady

    demand rises supply falls => hyper price rise

    demand falls supply rises => prices fall

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    supply

    India + PakistanIndia global

    monopoly (80%)

    total prod = 1.5 mt

    demand

    wealthy American

    oil cos

    weak rupee

    $2,000 Mar 11 -

    $28,000 Mar 12

    1400%

    commodity

    traders +

    bankers/brokers

    90% cornered

    rs. 1000 cr

    loans

    42984439 4365 4576

    3987 42774376

    4263

    5000 5745

    1000011750

    14800

    30125

    27458

    0

    5000

    10000

    15000

    20000

    25000

    30000

    35000

    gaur gum seed

    price/quintal

    Perfect no consumer price resistance

    Long run supply / short run supply

    vultures

    588%

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    hubrisPride, self confidence, arrogance

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    financial crisis or global financial crisis

    what happened?

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    fundamentally amazing or economically mind boggling

    hubris challenged the simple laws of demand and supply

    until 2006 any RE agent in USA would tell

    you that nationwide prices go up

    year qtr shiller

    1995 Q1 77.74

    1996 Q1 79.61

    1997 Q1 81.82

    1998 Q1 85.71

    1999 Q1 98.08

    2000 Q1 1002001 Q1 109.27

    2002 Q1 116

    2003 Q1 130.48

    2004 Q1 146.26

    2005 Q1 169.19

    2006 Q1 186.66

    2007 Q1 185.45

    2007 Q3 180.452007 Q4 170.64

    2004 46%

    2006 86% almost doubled

    since great depression housing

    prices in US have risen @ 1% a year

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    for prices to increase what has to happen?

    demand has to rise faster than the supply

    Possible theories?

    what are demand drivers?

    population

    incomes

    +

    what are supply drivers?

    new homes

    built

    >

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    populati

    on

    incomes

    2000 2004

    Population = ~1.5%

    Incomes = 3%

    ____________________________________

    Money Pool = ~ 1.4%

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    Maybe new homes did not keep pace with population

    increase.. lets check!

    2000 -> ~ 115 million housing units

    In 2000s US was building 1.5 m homes a year

    Then it started accelerating. By 2004 they were building

    roughly 2m homes a year

    On average 1.8m homes a yearSo 1.8 x 4 = 7.2 m new homes

    So 7.2 / 115 = 0.06xxx = ~ 6%

    new homes

    builtHousing stock = ~6%

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    Bizarre !!!!

    demand falls supply rises => prices fall

    basic

    eco

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    Dig Deep

    Mortgage / Lending markets

    1970s

    House Price = $60,000

    Down Payment = 25%Down Payment = $15,000

    Loan = $45,000

    Interest 9% = $4050 / yr

    or $340 /month

    Rent = $900

    Important

    Cash flow -

    Discipline - X

    Steady job ?

    Good Credit score700+

    Rent - X

    Biggest Barrier down payment

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    Cut to - 2000s

    2000s

    Down payment 10%

    Down payment - $6000

    Job is fine (ok if

    unsteady)

    Credit score = 600

    Suddenly a lot of people

    Became eligible to buy a

    house

    2002s

    Down payment0%

    Down payment - $0

    Job you can lie

    Credit score = 500

    Still More people eligible

    2005s

    Down payment 0%

    Down payment - $0

    Job not required. We

    have your house

    Credit score = no credit

    check

    .. And more.. Lot more!

    Absurd standards!!

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    That is someone earning Rs. 20 lakhs a year could buy a Rs. 5 cr house

    Demand came from lowering of standards.

    Poor migrant laborers earning $40,000 a year were able to buy $1,000,000 houses

    Sub primes

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    bonus

    growthHouse loan

    interest

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    House loan

    Fee

    SECURITIZED

    LOANS

    MBS

    CDO

    +

    Fee

    +

    interest

    investors

    +Fee

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    Investor gives 1m for home purchase. In return has claim on interest

    Does not know me. Thousands or millions.

    Then how would investors put up the money

    Rating agencies

    Have to rely on someone.. Who?

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    MBS

    CDO

    Historically there have been low default rates

    We know why ?

    So there is a high likelihood that you will be paid

    AAA

    PBOC

    Hedge funds

    Pension funds

    7%

    Still no

    defaults

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    Vicious cycle

    Housing prices go up

    Lower defaults

    Lower standardsEasier financing

    Perceived lending risk low

    More people willing to lend

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    Phata poster nikla vulture

    1000 borrowers

    1m each

    Total borrowing = 1b1b

    100m

    1b

    SPV1m shares

    100m

    Share entitlement

    $100 yearly$1000 repayment

    High IPO Demand

    Price rises to 1100

    1.1b

    100m

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    Ideal

    -None defaults

    - no prepayment

    Everyone knows-It will not going to be exactly

    10%

    -Some will default some will

    prepay

    How much lower?

    Computer models

    Historical data

    populationState

    history

    Recovery

    patterns

    Real return?

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    1000 borrowers @ 1m = 1b asset

    Simplified model

    20% or 200

    default50% recovery

    10% overall losses

    Real return = 10 (10% of 10)

    = 9%1980s

    Down payment

    25%

    Steady Job

    Credit score =

    700+

    VAR

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    wealth destruction

    1995

    2005

    2008

    2009

    100k 100k 100k 100k 100k

    E 20 L 80

    1m

    Bubble peak

    E 0 L 1m

    1m300

    k

    Bubble

    burst

    1m

    1m

    1m 1m500k 8%

    580k 580k 580k580k

    600k??

    Honest effort

    Short sale?250

    k

    Audi

    Macau

    hettich

    250k 250k 250k

    Wealth wiped off:

    Bank = 500k - 250k = 250k

    Borrower = 250k 80k = 170k

    Total = 420kboom!! Kaput!

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    Plagiarist!

    Salman Khan videos

    Khanacademy.org

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    magician

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    Post mba 7 to 20 lakhs / year

    10 years into management job 40-60lakhs / year

    Ceos 4cr $70m $300m

    How much did george soros earn in a day?

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    INDIA

    RBI

    $

    Stock

    Currency

    Market

    $ga

    tekeepers

    Peg to USD

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    Black Wednesday 16 sept 1992

    EERM European Exchange rate mechanism

    Predecessor of euro

    Commitment to ERM required that BOE doctor interest

    rates higher

    Economy demanded lower rates

    Soros flooded markets with pound how?

    Shorting the pound

    Pegged to deutsche mark. Band 6% movement

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    Mind Numbing$ 1B

    Rs. 5,000 cr.

    The Man Who Broke the Bank of England

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    Buys for Rs. 5 an apple

    Sells for rs. 3 an apple

    Millionaire?

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    33%1500 x

    1920

    = 28.8 L

    Operating costs

    pilots

    Ground staff Maintenance crew

    airhostesses

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    1 plane =

    $200m

    Or

    Rs. 1000 cr.

    4% of 28.8 L

    = 1.15 L

    100,000

    days

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    Kingfisher

    66 planes

    Cost per available seat mile

    Marginal cost concept will not work. DGCA will ground

    the airlines if scheduled altered

    Or if the airline is kingfisher

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    to his shareholders

    the worst sort of business is one that grows

    rapidly, requires significant capital to engender

    growth and then earns little or no money. think

    airlines

    .. Another magician

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    Evolution theory?

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    Evolution theory?

    Natural process

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    hardnosed

    Single mindedfocus

    cost cutting

    1 configuration

    1 type

    38

    years

    of

    profit

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    Vandal

    How much money destroyed?

    .. Jala kar rakh kar doonga..! Saara paisa!

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    Kya kareen..?

    Thyan thyan!!

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    "The Century's Greatest Sports Photos"

    Phantom punch

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    Inflection point

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    Disruptive innovation

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    Mechanical engg from imperial college London

    Frustrating attempts at making metal furniture in Calcutta.

    1980s

    Sensed opportunity in storage media business

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    Sensed opportunity in storage media business

    2000 - 2004

    Second largest in the world

    357 cr

    3 billion discs a year

    17% global share

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    Vishal the procastinator

    Ran out of time..

    Number digging stops

    Stories continue..

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    Tried increasing capacity

    Idea was to kill the competition from Taiwan

    Prices fell from $1.2 to $0.2 per disc

    US Europe Antidumping against India and china

    Puri got india to apply anti dumping

    Taiwan manufacturers moved to china

    Dumping no dumping china kicks indias ass

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    cmu

    Dresses impeccably

    No hobbies

    workaholic

    Finishes project before time

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    Sensed inflection point

    Started Moser Baer power pvt ltd

    PE Funded

    Raised debt

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    What happened?

    Vandal?

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    Industry

    ..on crutches!

    Govt funded

    Green power

    Renewable

    Clean air.. Leave better earth to our children

    How much we pay for 1 unit of electricity in india?

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    Rs. 3.5 to 4.25 depending on state

    How much does solar electricity cost per unit

    rs. 7

    Babaji kya aap hari bijli ke liye jyada

    paisa denge..?

    Beta hari ko ni.., lal ya peeli.. Ek

    paisa bhi nahi doonga!!

    vote doonga..

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    If babaji will not pay.. Who will?

    In form of?

    Subsidy / grants / carbon credit / tax offsets

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    Grants / subsidy

    1. Security2. Food

    3. Fuel

    4. Investments

    5. NREGA

    6.

    7. 8. Renewable!

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    Will u do this business?

    3 yrs for asset turnover

    Demand erratic..

    Must service any demand that arises.. However high it is..

    If not you shall be penalized..

    If you continue.. Govt will nationalize or sell you as

    going concern..

    Govt will regulate you heavily..

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    Which business is it?

    Power

    ..

    No storage.. Consume while generated..

    Such poor economics

    then why did people put $3b or $13000 cr.. In

    power - 2008

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    Monopoly

    Assured take off

    Supreme court ruling..

    Per unit price should be regulated suchthat the return on asset should be

    equivalent to similar businesses in India

    having a similar risk profile and

    investment requirements

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