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DEBATES OF THE SENATE

1st SESSION • 44th PARLIAMENT • VOLUME 153 • NUMBER 48

OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD)

Wednesday, June 1, 2022

The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker

This issue contains the latest listing of Senators, Officers of the Senate and the Ministry.

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CONTENTS

(Daily index of proceedings appears at back of this issue).

Publications Centre: [email protected]

Published by the SenateAvailable on the Internet: http://www.parl.gc.ca

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The Senate met at 2 p.m., the Speaker in the chair.

Prayers.

[Translation]

SENATORS’ STATEMENTS

ITALIAN HERITAGE MONTH

Hon. Tony Loffreda: Honourable senators, today I rise incelebration of Italian Heritage Month.

Throughout the month of June, Italian communities acrossCanada, from Vancouver to Toronto to Ottawa to Montreal, willbe hosting events to celebrate Italy’s dynamic and impressiveheritage.

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Canadians of all origins will have an opportunity this month toimmerse themselves in all things Italian: food and wine, arts andculture, and good old hospitality and cheer.

Canada is home to one of the largest Italian diasporas in theworld with some 1.5 million Canadians of Italian descent. Ofcourse, the first Italian presence in what is now known as Canadawas 525 years ago, when Giovanni Caboto landed here.

It wasn’t until the mid-17th century that we saw the first Italiansettlement. Some time later, in the late 1800s, an influx ofmigrant workers came to Canada, many of which eventuallychose to stay here permanently. Finally, another important waveoccurred after the Second World War.

At that time, my parents were among those who made thedifficult decision to leave their family and come to Canada, trulya land of hope and opportunity. I know first-hand to what extentItalian immigrants were grateful for the warm welcome theyreceived when they arrived on our shores after leaving a war-torncountry.

Canadians of Italian descent have helped shape Canada inmany ways. They’ve made so many contributions to our culturallandscape, social fabric and economic vitality. They arego‑getters, change-makers, innovators and community-builders,and I am proud to be a member of this community.

Of course, 2022 also marks the seventy-fifth anniversary of theCanada-Italy bilateral relations. Since 1947, the bonds that uniteus have been carefully nurtured, and today we have many reasonsto be proud of our joint efforts to increase cultural, educationaland economic exchanges between our two great nations.

I look forward to working with Italy’s new ambassador toCanada, His Excellency Andrea Ferrari, on various matters tostrengthen this very important trade and diplomatic relationship.

Honourable senators, please join me in extending specialgreetings to all Canadians of Italian descent on the occasion ofItalian Heritage Month. I hope you will have an opportunity totake part in some of the activities hosted by our various Italiancommunities across the country. At the very least, please enjoy agood glass of Italian vino in their honour.

Thank you. Grazie.

IMMIGRATION, REFUGEES AND CITIZENSHIP

Hon. Peter Harder: Honourable senators, “Governmentsmake mistakes.” Those were the words I spoke in this chamberon May 1, 2019, to commemorate the then one-hundredthanniversary of one such mistake, when the following order-in-council was passed by the Government of Canada. It read, inpart:

Whereas the minister of immigration and colonizationreports that owing to conditions prevailing as the result ofthe war, a widespread feeling exists throughout theDominion, and more particularly in western Canada, thatsteps should be taken to prevent the entry to Canada of allpersons who may be regarded as undesirable because owingto their peculiar customs, habits, modes of living andmethods of holding property, they are not likely to becomereadily assimilated or assume the duties and responsibilitiesof Canadian citizenship within a reasonable time; and

Whereas the minister further reports that numerousrepresentations have been received . . . indicating thatpersons commonly known as Doukhobors, Hutterites andMennonites are of the class and character described and thatconsequently it is desirable to prohibit the entry to Canadaof such.

That order prevented my Harder and Tiessen grandparents, myparents and their siblings and thousands of other Mennonites whohad applied to come to Canada from leaving the Soviet Union.They were, therefore, stuck.

I don’t raise this simply to acknowledge the pain and sufferingof those a century ago, but as a lesson in intolerance for todayand as a testament against falsehoods and prejudice in our times.

Jonathan Swift writes, “Falsehood flies, and truth comeslimping after it . . . .”

And so it did. While governments make mistakes, governmentscan also fix mistakes. After 3 years, exactly 100 years agotomorrow, on June 2, 1922, the then newly elected Governmentof Canada rescinded that order, saying in an order-in-council:

His Excellency, the Governor General in Council, on therecommendation of the acting Minister of Immigration andColonization, is pleased to order that the Order-in-Councilof June 9, 1919, prohibited the landing in Canada of any

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immigrant of Doukhobor, Hutterite and Mennonite classesshall be and the same is hereby rescinded as respectsHutterites and Mennonites.

That was signed by Mackenzie King and approved by Byng ofVimy.

As a result, thousands of people left the Soviet Union forCanada in what became known as the Mennonite exodus, theirimmigration facilitated by travel loans from Canadian PacificRail guaranteed by their co-religionists in Canada.

The banner headline of the Kitchener-Waterloo Daily Recordof that day boldly declared, “Mennonites Now Free To ComeInto Canada,” the article saying:

The order-in-council promulgated by the Union Governmentduring the war restricting all Mennonite immigration intoCanada has just been annulled by the Liberal government asa result of the efforts of W. D. Euler M. P., according toinformation received by Record’s press galleryrepresentative at Ottawa. The Mennonites are now as free toenter Canada as the adherents of any other faith. Thisannouncement will be received with considerable pleasureby the thousands of Mennonites in Kitchener . . . .

And so it was.

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I speak today so that we may redouble our efforts to makeCanada an ongoing beacon of protection for refugees, awelcoming centre for immigrants celebrating pluralism and abulwark against falsehoods and other claims of racial, gender orreligious intolerance in our time.

VISITORS IN THE GALLERY

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to drawyour attention to the presence in the gallery of a delegation ofsenators from the Parliament of the Czech Republic. They are ledby Senator Jiří Drahoš and accompanied by His Excellency,Ambassador Bořek Lizec.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to theSenate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

NATIONAL SEAL PRODUCTS DAY

Hon. Dennis Glen Patterson: Honourable senators, yesterdaymarked National Seal Products Day on Parliament Hill,established by Bill S-208, developed by our dear formercolleague and champion of the sealing industry, former senatorCéline Hervieux-Payette. Colleagues, today, in marking NationalSeal Products Day, I want to alert you to what parliamentarysecretary and my good friend Yvonne Jones, MP for Labrador,has described as an ecological disaster in our oceans.

For years, Greenpeace, PETA and their like successfullydemonized the seal hunt, with its long and proud tradition inAtlantic Canada and the Arctic. As a result, the seal population isout of control and decimating our fisheries. I want to commendMinister Joyce Murray for being the first Minister of Fisheries,Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard ever to acknowledge thatseals eat fish. How much fish? According to Fisheries andOceans Canada, the harp seal population in Atlantic Canadaalone eats 1.6 million metric tonnes of fish in the Atlantic region.

Colleagues, Newfoundland and Labrador’s entire commercialfishery amounts to only 220,000 metric tonnes. Harbour sealsand sea lions — or Qasigiaq as we call them in Nunavut — eat30% of Pacific salmon before they can even get to the sea. Theresult is that fisheries are having to be closed. Capelin stocks aredown 70%, and the cod fishery has not been restored 30 yearsafter its closure.

The collateral damage done to the innocent human victims wasalso spiritually devastating. False narratives about the cruelty ofthe seal hunt and the money raised through those narratives wereused to effectively destroy overnight the market for rich,beautiful seal fur when the European Union and many othercountries banned the sale of seal products.

The documentary by acclaimed Inuit filmmaker AletheaArnaquq-Baril called Angry Inuk is a compelling documentaryabout the devastating, dispiriting impact of the seal ban. Thedisappearance of the market for seal skins not only made huntingunaffordable but also deprived the Inuit and the world of a rich,sustainable supply of high-protein food rich in omega-3 fats andvitamins.

Seal skin is also the material used for the very best waterproofand windproof outdoor clothing and footwear, as well as forworld-class high-fashion materials. A seal diet was the mainsource of sustenance which allowed the Inuit to thrive in theharshest climate in the country.

What can we do about this ecological disaster? Let’s look forClifford Small, MP for Coast of Bays–Central–Notre Dame,whose private member’s bill, Bill C-251, aims at restoring ourdecimated fisheries through strategies which will restoreecological balance. Senator Wells may sponsor that in the Senate.

Colleagues, we need to support our fledging seal productsindustry and feed the world while restoring ecological balance inour precious ocean resources. Thank you, honourable senators.Qujannamiik.

VISITORS IN THE GALLERY

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to drawyour attention to the presence in the gallery of members of thewomen’s high school tackle football teams of the OttawaCatholic School Board. They are the guests of the HonourableSenator Deacon (Ontario).

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to theSenate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

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HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II

CONGRATULATIONS ON PLATINUM JUBILEE

Hon. David M. Wells: Honourable senators, I rise today topay tribute to Queen Elizabeth II on the eve of Her Majesty’s70 years on the throne and to celebrate her Platinum Jubilee.

Queen Elizabeth II is only the eighth Queen of England, andher reign is not only a remarkable length of service but anexample of leadership to the Commonwealth and to the world.Queen Elizabeth II has been a living example of stability andstoicism through many difficult global events over her sevendecades as monarch.

Her reign has had no shortage of historic points, starting withher pledge in a speech broadcast on the radio from Cape Town onApril 21, 1947, when she dedicated her life to service. Her reignbegan when she was 25 years old, following the death of herfather, King George VI, on February 6, 1952.

Queen Elizabeth II has made countless trips throughout theworld, including 22 official visits to Canada, the first being in1951 as Princess Elizabeth, where she visited in place of herfather, who was ill, and the most recent being in 2010. She hadan official visit to my home province in 1978, visiting St. John’s,Deer Lake, Corner Brook and Stephenville. There were alsomany stops in Gander, but most were not considered official asthey were simply to refuel. I was in Bonavista when the Queenvisited there in 1997. My eldest son, Luke, who is now 25 —many of you have met him — was three months old and in myarms.

My maternal grandmother from Tottenham in North London,Ruby L. Jewson, joined the Women’s Auxiliary for the war effortand, later, was part of the team that catalogued the gifts to theQueen upon her ascension to the throne. She was so proud of thatand would always show me her scrapbook of those times. I wasproud of her. She’d be humbled to have her name mentioned inthe Senate of Canada.

I met Her Majesty — as we were told to address her; PrincePhilip was to be addressed as Your Royal Highness — a fewyears ago, and I wanted to mention that story about mygrandmother but chickened out in favour of protocol. I regret thatnow.

Over the years, Queen Elizabeth II has met with numerousIndigenous groups, including being greeted by the Chief of theMontagnais and given a pair of beaded moosehide jackets. In1976, the Queen received an Alberta First Nations delegation atBuckingham Palace.

In 2010, Queen Elizabeth II presented Christ Church, HerMajesty’s Royal Chapel of the Mohawks, with handbells tosymbolize the councils and treaties between the IroquoisConfederacy and the Crown.

Queen Elizabeth II is a champion of unity and democracy, andher legacy and remarkable achievements are deserving ofcelebration. I will mark this historic occasion and pay tribute toCanada’s longest-reigning sovereign and the first to celebrate a

platinum jubilee. I will take time and reflect on this historicmoment and reflect on the role of my grandmother, my province,my country, my all-too-brief meeting with her and my oath toHer Majesty over nine years ago.

Thank you, colleagues.

VISITORS IN THE GALLERY

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to drawyour attention to the presence in the gallery of Beau JamesAtkins, of Evolve Family Law, and his son Parker Paul Atkins.They are the guests of the Honourable Senator Cotter.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to theSenate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

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TRIBUTE TO SENATORS GERBA AND COYLE

Hon. René Cormier: Honourable senators, from May 21 to28, I had the tremendous honour, as a vice-chair of the Canada-Africa Parliamentary Association, of participating in a mission inAccra, Ghana, together with the new Senate co-chair of theassociation, our colleague, the Honourable Amina Gerba.

With the support of the amazing High Commission of Canadain Ghana, our delegation of two senators and two MPs met withmany Ghanaian parliamentarians to discuss a number of issues ofimportance to Canada and this West African country.Governance, economic development, peace and security, arts andculture, and human rights — specifically women’s andLGBTQ2+ rights — were among the issues, some of them quitesensitive, that we discussed in a spirit of openness duringmeetings with various parliamentary committees.

Our delegation met with the Speaker of the Ghanaianparliament and the foreign affairs minister, as well as severalcivil society organizations, such as the African DevelopmentBank, the African Continental Free Trade Area, the MediaFoundation for West Africa and the Institute for DemocraticGovernance. It was a rich and intense diplomatic mission thatgave us insight into Ghana’s economic, political, cultural andsocial issues, its role in Africa’s economic integration and howCanada can become one of the country’s key partners.

Colleagues, one of the highlights of this mission was themoving tribute paid to Senator Amina Gerba by the Forum desdiasporas africaines, an organization that aims to support theAfrican Union in representing the African diaspora and itsstrategic engagement in Africa’s continued development. As anative of Cameroon and founder of the Forum AfriqueExpansion, Canada’s largest platform for business partnershipsbetween African and Canadian decision makers, Senator Gerbadedicated her professional life to promoting economic, trade andentrepreneurial ties between Canada and Africa prior to herrecent appointment to the Senate.

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Her distinguished career and outstanding contribution tostrengthening economic ties between the African continent andCanada were recognized last week as she was named anambassador of the African diaspora, alongside famouspersonalities such as Barack Obama.

Thinking of this young Cameroonian woman, who at a veryyoung age began helping to support her family, thinking of thisimmigrant who wholeheartedly embraced her new country bybecoming a dynamic Canadian entrepreneur and, finally, thinkingof her appointment to the Senate of Canada, we cannot help butshare her delight in the distinction she was awarded last week.

Colleagues, we can be proud to call this inspiring citizen oneof our own. She channelled her unique life experiences andimmeasurable love for Africa into tangible actions that havehelped strengthen ties between Canada and that continent.Congratulations, senator. You are a credit to the Senate ofCanada.

Before I conclude, I would be remiss if I did not alsocongratulate our colleague, Senator Mary Coyle, anotherremarkable woman who was also on the African continent at thesame time to receive an honorary doctorate from MeruUniversity of Science and Technology in Kenya.Congratulations, Senator Coyle.

Colleagues, these two deeply committed women are bothadmirable senators whose contributions to Canada deserve ourapplause. Thank you.

Some Hon. Senators: Hear, hear.

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VISITORS IN THE GALLERY

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to drawyour attention to the presence in the gallery of staff from theCardus think tank. They are the guests of the Honourable SenatorPlett.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to theSenate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

THE LATE BRUCE GILCHRIST DUNCAN CAMPBELL, O.C.

Hon. Donald Neil Plett (Leader of the Opposition):Honourable senators, I wish to pay tribute to Bruce GilchristDuncan Campbell, who passed away on May 17, 2022. Born toDuncan and Kathleen Campbell, Bruce grew up on the familyfarm in Chater, Manitoba.

Bruce was a humble man who made significant contributionsto our country, to my home province of Manitoba, to mycommunity of Landmark, to the farming industry and to everyonewho had the privilege of chatting or working with him.

He was a generous man who inspired so many people — a manwho always had sensible words of encouragement supported by atremendous depth of knowledge.

Bruce was a natural businessman and was gifted with a down-to-earth approach and an ability to build strong relationships withpeople, his staff and his community.

My remarks today are a true testament and demonstration ofBruce’s ability and vision to forge strong community bonds.

Bruce started his career as a sales rep who eventually seizedthe opportunity to purchase an interest in a small, rural feedbusiness in Landmark, Manitoba, in 1968. Just nine years later,he successfully became the sole owner. In the 30 years thatfollowed, Bruce built and turned Landmark Feeds Incorporatedinto an innovative, leading company that he profitably sold toMaple Leaf Foods in 1999.

Bruce had great success in leading partners and teams inagribusiness, but his legacy is much bigger than that alone. Hewas a visionary who put people at the forefront of all hisendeavours.

His successes are well documented. The significance of hiscontributions in the agricultural industry in Western Canadaspeak for themselves. His fireplace mantel was filled withawards, recognitions and honourable mentions, the Order ofCanada being one of them. But his best renown was hisreputation of caring for individuals around him.

I wish to share a specific story that will give everyone aglimpse of what kind of person Bruce Campbell was.

In 1991, I helped fundraise for the construction of our newarena in Landmark. At the time, the project was one of about amillion dollars. Bruce was our largest single financialcontributor.

As the plans progressed, I recall sharing with him that theproject was short $50,000 and that we were considering theoption of not immediately going ahead with the ice plant. Well,Bruce didn’t think that was a good idea, so, he turned around andwrote us a cheque for $50,000. His additional donation madesuch a difference. Many would have said, “I’ve already given.”But not Bruce. Bruce encompassed his community withgenerosity.

In small communities, the arena is the centre of so many greatmemories. Bruce and his family not only ensured that Landmarkwas thriving, but, just like in business, he put the people at theforefront. The Landmark Arena is now named after him.

On behalf of Canada’s farming community, the people ofLandmark, Manitoba, and myself personally, I wish to pass onmy condolences to his wife, Lesley; his children Nancy andBrock; and their spouses, grandchildren and all family membersand friends.

I pray that you find solace in knowing that Bruce has left us fora better place, while recognizing that he left our community abetter place.

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Thank you.

VISITOR IN THE GALLERY

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to drawyour attention to the presence in the gallery of OdeliaQuewezance. She is the guest of the Honourable Senator Pate.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to theSenate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

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ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

AUDITOR GENERAL

2022 SPRING REPORTS TABLED

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I have thehonour to table, in both official languages, the 2022 SpringReports of the Auditor General of Canada to the Parliament ofCanada, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, R.S.C. 1985,c. A-17,sbs. 7(5).

ADJOURNMENT

NOTICE OF MOTION

Hon. Raymonde Gagné (Legislative Deputy to theGovernment Representative in the Senate): Honourablesenators, I give notice that, at the next sitting of the Senate, I willmove:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption ofthis motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, June 7,2022, at 2 p.m.

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QUESTION PERIOD

JUSTICE

PAROLE ELIGIBILITY

Hon. Donald Neil Plett (Leader of the Opposition):Honourable senators, my question, again, is for the governmentleader in the Senate.

Leader, a Supreme Court of Canada ruling last week, whichstruck down life without parole for mass murderers, means thatthe man who killed six people in a Quebec mosque in 2017 maybe eligible to apply for parole. His lawyer called the courtdecision a glimmer of hope, yet the families of his victims liveeach and every day with the pain and loss of their loved ones.

On Friday, the Minister of Justice released a statement thatread, “. . . we will respect the court’s decision and carefullyreview its implications and path forward.”

Leader, what does that mean? Why has the NDP-Liberalgovernment completely ruled out a legislative response? What isyour path forward? To just move on and let the victims fall bythe wayside once again?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you for your question, Senator Plett. First, thegovernment wants to acknowledge the hurt and the anger that thisdecision may rekindle amongst all the victims of the horrificattack in Quebec City.

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As you mentioned in your question, the Supreme Court ofCanada ruled that the Criminal Code provision that allows judgesto order consecutive periods of parole ineligibility in cases ofmultiple murders is unconstitutional.

The government’s position was and is clear. The governmentsupported a sentencing judge’s discretion to impose a longerperiod of parole ineligibility where appropriate. However, thegovernment will respect the court’s decision and is, as theminister said, carefully reviewing the implications and what thepath forward may be.

Senator Plett: Leader, the end of Minister Lametti’s statementin response to the Supreme Court ruling said, “We will continueto stand with those affected by this terrible crime and supportthem.”

Leader, how does leaving the position of Federal Ombudsmanfor Victims of Crime vacant since October 1 of last year showsupport for victims and their families? And how does letting thereview of the Canadian Victims Bill of Rights go two yearsoverdue show support for victims and their families?

Senator Gold: Thank you for your question. The governmentis engaged on both of these issues. When decisions are made withregard to the position and the bill of rights to which you referred,they will be communicated.

HEALTH

FUNDING FOR PRIMARY HEALTH CARE

Hon. Yonah Martin (Deputy Leader of the Opposition):Honourable senators, my question is for the government leader.I’m going to return to the issue that I didn’t get to fully articulateyesterday regarding the government’s broken promise to provide$3.2 billion to the provinces and territories for the hiring of7,500 new family doctors, nurses and nurse practitioners.

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According to the B.C. College of Family Physicians, almostone million people in my province alone do not have a familydoctor and are unable to get one — one million. Earlier thismonth, the Canadian Medical Association said the lack of accessto family doctors is a growing crisis, and it urged all levels ofgovernment to address the issues that are “decimating primarycare across the country.”

Leader, I will try again to ask, why did the NDP-Liberalbudget fail to include this specific promise to fund 7,500 newdoctors and nurses starting this fiscal year?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): I don’t have a specific answer to your question and Iwon’t repeat the more general answer that I gave. We mustremember not only that health is a provincial jurisdiction, but thefederal government has played a critical role in financing andhelping provinces develop and fund their own health caresystems.

It is up to a province to organize how it wants to use theresources from its own taxpayers and as provided by Canada, andto prioritize within the medical schools and the licencingorganizations how that will work. There are market forces also atplay in terms of the penury of family physicians. It is not only inyour province; it’s a problem in my own and everywhere.Provincial governments have done good and not-so-good jobs inrationalizing their resources with consequences sometimesunforeseen.

I will make inquiries about your particular question, but itremains the case that the Government of Canada remains a strongfinancial partner to all provinces to help them shoulder theincreasing costs and challenges of health care.

Senator Martin: As I’m sure you know, some Canadians whodon’t have access to a family doctor will ultimately seek care at ahospital emergency room. This past weekend, three hospitals thatserve smaller communities in different parts of B.C. closed theiremergency rooms due to staff shortages. These types of closuresare becoming a common occurrence.

On Monday, the mayor of Clearwater told CTV that their localhospital emergency room has been closed so many times inrecent months that he can’t even keep track of the number oftimes this has happened.

Leader, does the NDP-Liberal government have any timelinefor when it intends to fulfill its promise of 7,500 new doctors,nurses and nurse practitioners in Canada? And how did youdetermine that 7,500 was an adequate number?

Senator Gold: Again, I don’t have the answer to the specificquestion and I will make inquiries. Most provinces, in theirdemands for additional support for financing, insist that it bedone with no conditions whatsoever. We know from reviewingthe ongoing discussions between the provinces and federalgovernment, whether it is in the area of funding for physical ormental health, that there is an ongoing tension between theGovernment of Canada’s desire to target the money to addresspressing needs that we can all identify, whether long-term care

homes or mental health support, and the province’s desire is tosay, “This is our jurisdiction, give us the money and we’ll spendit as we wish.”

Without speculating as to why agreements have not yet beenreached — in this particular case, between your province and thefederal government — I assure this chamber that I will makeinquiries, but I think we all must remain sensible and sensitive tothe actual realities of federal-provincial financial negotiationsaround health care.

NATIONAL DEFENCE

INDEPENDENT EXTERNAL COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW

Hon. Mary Coyle: Honourable senators, my question is forthe Government Representative in the Senate.

Senator Gold, in April of last year, the government announcedthat former Justice Louise Arbour would lead a review lookinginto sexual misconduct and sexual harassment in the Departmentof National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces.

This week, the final report of this review was released. A keyrecommendation from Justice Arbour’s report is that civilianauthorities have exclusive jurisdiction over Criminal Code sexualoffences against Canadian Armed Forces members. Thisrecommendation was built on former Justice Fish’s and formerJustice Deschamps’s reports’ findings and recommendations in2021 and 2015, respectively, where they both recommendedsexual offences be referred to civilian authorities.

Senator Gold, we know that the military justice system hasbeen ineffective in dealing with matters related to sexualmisconduct and sexual harassment. Senator Gold, I’m sure youwill agree that all Canadians deserve equal access to justice, bethey civilian or military.

Senator Gold, will the government commit to implementingthese centrally important recommendations?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you for your question, senator. I am advised thatMinister Anand released and accepted Justice Arbour’s report inits entirety. She welcomed all of the recommendations andcommitted to implementing 17 of them immediately.

With regard to your specific question, as you would know, inthe last year, the government has been laying the foundation formeaningful cultural change, including by implementing MadamJustice Arbour’s interim recommendation for transferring theinvestigation and prosecution of Criminal Code sexual offencesfrom the military justice system to the civilian justice system.This work continues in earnest.

As you mentioned in your question, the fifth recommendationin Justice Arbour’s report is that sexual offences should beentirely removed from the jurisdiction of the military justicesystem, and they should be prosecuted in civilian criminal courts.This is a thoughtful and system-transforming recommendation.The minister is examining it in earnest. I am advised that the

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minister will be writing to her provincial and territorial justicepartners in the coming days and she will be consulting withsurvivors and victims’ groups to determine the best path forward.

To smooth the case transfer process, Department of NationalDefence officials will collaborate even more closely withprovincial and territorial authorities. The government is makingplans to establish a formal intergovernmental table to builddurable transfer processes that will serve Canadian Armed Forcesmembers well in the long term.

Senator Coyle: Thank you, Senator Gold. I look forward tohearing further updates on that process, as you have described it.

Senator Gold, another important recommendation made byformer Justice Arbour was that the civilian human rightsorganizations have adequate access and resources to assess andaddress these complaints from military personnel.

Senator Gold, will the government take action on thisrecommendation as well?

Senator Gold: Thank you for your question, again. Withrespect to recommendations numbers 7 to 9 to which you madereference, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal is a body outsidethe chain of command, and I have been advised that thegovernment is examining this and is consulting acrossgovernments and with stakeholders to determine the path forwardin the coming months.

I’m also advised that this is a rather complex recommendation.It requires some detailed analysis, and the government iscommitted to undertake the study required to develop anappropriate response.

CANADA MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION

NATIONAL HOUSING STRATEGY

Hon. Rosemary Moodie: Honourable senators, my question isfor the Government Representative in the Senate.

Senator Gold, on May 18 and May 19, Canada underwent areview by the United Nations Committee on the Rights of theChild. During the review, Canada was asked about what it isdoing to protect children from homelessness and housinginsecurity. In response, our delegation spoke about the NationalHousing Strategy. However, stakeholders such as UNICEF andthe Women’s National Housing & Homelessness Network havepointed to concerning gaps that exist within this program.Specifically, the National Housing Strategy has a target of25% of its resources to be designated for women and children, atarget that is perplexing as it is seen to be out of sync with thedemonstrated data that we already have, data that has establishedthat women, gender-diverse people and children make up a largerportion than 25%.

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My question is this: What equity targets are embedded in theNational Housing Strategy to ensure that sufficient resources areallocated to protect children experiencing eviction andhomelessness in Canada? Can you share the details of how thesetargets are being monitored?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you. It is an important question on an importantissue. I don’t have the answer, but I will seek to get it and share itwith the chamber as soon as I can.

This government, more than any other government, dare I say,is committed to addressing the gaps and the inequalities that wehave come to recognize plague our country with regard tothose — whether women, Indigenous communities, children andothers — who find themselves in vulnerable positions. Thegovernment will continue to use its efforts to redress theseinequalities in this area as in others.

Senator Moodie: I’m wondering, Senator Gold, does thegovernment have a plan to review targets and measures forsignificant social policies as they move forward in makingprogress on revamping our data collection processes?

Senator Gold: Again, senator, I cannot give you thespecific answer to your question. As this chamber will know, thisgovernment has taken major steps to disaggregate data andensure that the impact of programs — we saw this in the contextof the pandemic — that it goes beyond that and to understand thereal-world and disparate impacts that will inevitably be the caseto some degree in the implementation of social programs. Again,I will seek the answers to your question and endeavour to havean answer as quickly as I can.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE

BUSINESS OF THE COMMITTEE

Hon. Patricia Bovey: Honourable senators, this question is forthe chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairsand International Trade.

Senator Boehm, in June 2019 the Foreign Affairs andInternational Trade Committee tabled its report CulturalDiplomacy at the Front Stage of Canada’s Foreign Policy. Werose, and there was an election before it was voted on. However,I’m well aware that staff in Global Affairs and Canada Councilfor the Arts have taken it on and both have establisheddepartments for its implementation. I’m also aware that a yearago Canadian Heritage was finishing their report, an update on it.I am not aware of anything since.

Has the Senate’s Foreign Affairs and International TradeCommittee received those updates, implementation strategies andactions? If not, when are you expecting them? And will thecommittee meet with the ministers involved to move theserecommendations along?

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Hon. Peter M. Boehm: Thank you, Senator Bovey, for thequestion and indeed for notifying me in advance that you wouldbe asking it. I think I’m among many in this chamber whorecognize your devotion and interest in cultural diplomacy andcertainly its facility abroad. I know this from my own experiencein my previous career having attempted to practise culturaldiplomacy in various postings.

I was delighted to participate in the committee’s study underthe leadership of former chair Senator Andreychuk, which alsofeatured important contributions from you. My interest inparticular at that time was to recommend that Canadian studiesprograms in particular be reinstated in one form or another.

With respect to updates from Global Affairs Canada, HeritageCanada and the Canadian Council for the Arts that youmentioned in your question, the committee has yet to receive anyformal notifications and is currently not expecting any. However,as chair I did receive some assurances that work was under wayfrom discussions between deputy ministers on the margins of theFrankfurt Book Fair in October 2021, where Canada was theguest of honour.

I suspect the pandemic has slowed things down in manydepartments, as it has for our own committee and others beingreduced to one meeting per week. Of course, there have beenother major preoccupations over at Global Affairs Canada interms of their leadership as well, most recently, the war inUkraine.

I have informally raised the issue of the importance of culturaldiplomacy programming with both the Minister of ForeignAffairs and the Minister of Canadian Heritage. I’m hopeful thattheir respective departments are working together to advance thisparticular file.

Senator Bovey: Senator Boehm, Global Affairs Canada isabout to launch a diplomatic modernization exercise, the firstsince 1980. Do you have confidence that cultural diplomacy willbe reinstated as one of the four pillars of our foreign policy,especially now, given the world’s crises, where the need, Ibelieve, to understand cultures and each other is becoming evermore apparent?

Senator Boehm: Senator Bovey, the announcement onMonday by Minister Joly with respect to the launch of theinternal modernization exercise was encouraging. I don’t know ifit was stimulated by our push from this place or not. Like the “fitfor purpose” study of Canada’s foreign service and themodernization of Global Affairs, which the committee iscurrently working on, I think it’s too early to say how muchcultural diplomacy will factor into the deliberation. We’ve juststarted the study and we are moving along.

For Global Affairs Canada’s own review specifically, I want topoint out that from what I have seen, much of its focus will be oninternal processes such as hiring and staffing. That said — and I,of course, can’t speak for that department — as you know,senator, I have very similar views to your own. In fact, we havebeen dealing with the cultural and arts community in Canada forsome time on this question. I would want to assure you that as

chair of the committee I will look at all ways and means in thefuture of our work to support these common objectives andespecially the bolstering of cultural diplomacy.

VETERANS AFFAIRS

BUSINESS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE

Hon. Robert Black: Honourable senators, as you know, onWednesdays, the Canadian Senators Group directs our questionto committee chairs. It’s great to see another group doing that.

As we approach the seventy-eighth anniversary of D-Day withour minds on the many veterans who have supported Canadiansthrough peace and conflict, my question today is for myhonourable colleague Senator Richards in his role as Chair of theSubcommittee on Veterans Affairs.

Senator Richards, yesterday the Auditor General of Canadareleased Report 2 — Processing Disability Benefits for Veterans.The audit found that despite Veterans Affairs Canada initiativesto speed up processing times, veterans from the Canadian ArmedForces and RCMP are waiting far too long to receivecompensation for injuries sustained in their service to Canada.

More specifically, the audit found that veterans applying fordisability benefits for the first time waited almost 10 months fora decision, compared to their service standard of 4 months.

Honourable colleague, I believe you and all my colleagueshere in this chamber would agree that this is absolutelyunacceptable.

Senator Richards, as Chair of the Veterans AffairsSubcommittee, can you please share what your committee hasbeen working on, what you have been hearing from witnessesand veterans across the country, and how your committee canhelp the government to better reach these vulnerable veterans inan expeditious manner?

The Hon. the Speaker: Before calling upon Senator Richards,I should point out to honourable colleagues that pursuant torule 4-8(1), questions can be asked of chairs of committees butnot of chairs of subcommittees. There have been a number ofrulings in the past with respect to that. Since the question hasbeen asked, I’ll leave it to Senator Richards whether or not hewants to answer it for now, but I would ask colleagues to bearthat in mind in the future.

Hon. David Richards: I’ll answer very quickly. I’m glad forthe Auditor General’s report. We have been saying the samething since I went into Veterans Affairs five years ago. Theproblems of wait times can kill a veteran in one way or another.The problems of homelessness and the dependence on drugs arealso real.

I think there should be programs in every province to alleviatewait times. Also, I think there should be occupational trainingand psychiatric availability long before they leave the service.Our Canadian public should be aware of this. If we do not thinkour men and women in uniform are important, try doing withoutthem.

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Senator, you mentioned our veterans in the First and SecondWorld Wars. I, as a young boy, used to see the First World Warveterans drinking themselves to death on the banks of my river.They had no one except us kids of eight and nine who were theirfriends. We used to pick up their hats, get them to their feet andtry to take them home.

I wrote a poem about that a long time ago called For Such MenWho Fought in Battles when I described how our country hadneglected them. I hope we don’t fall into the same morass.

I think the Auditor General’s report on the disinterest of ourgovernment is not disheartening if our government finally takes itto heart. I’ll leave it at that, senator.

The Hon. the Speaker: Senator Black, since we have started,we’ll go along with a supplementary question.

Senator Black: I apologize for not knowing that rule.

The Hon. the Speaker: That’s fine, Senator Black. No need toapologize.

[Translation]

PUBLIC SAFETY

PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO PORTAPIQUE SHOOTING

Hon. Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu: My question is for theGovernment Representative in the Senate. Last week, we learnedthat the families of victims of the Portapique shooting areboycotting the public inquiry because the commissioners arerefusing to allow the victims’ lawyers to cross-examine twoRCMP officers who were on duty at the time of the tragedy.Those two officers were in charge of the operation to find thekiller.

I would remind you that the public inquiry was establishedspecifically to probe the police response and to inform thefamilies, as required by the Canadian Victims Bill of Rights. It isnot right for these officers to be questioned remotely behindclosed doors when they are key witnesses, and for the victims’lawyers not to be able to question or cross-examine them.

The commission provided no reason for allowing in camerainterviews or denying cross-examination. The order-in-counciladopted by the government makes it a party to the inquiry, so itcan’t use its independence as an excuse for not intervening.

Why isn’t Minister Mendicino stepping up to publiclydenounce this injustice toward the victims’ families?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you for this question, honourable colleague.

The tragedy in Nova Scotia devastated families, friends and thecommunity and left many unanswered questions. With the publichearings now under way, our thoughts are with the community ofPortapique.

All Canadians should know that this will be an in-depth andimpartial inquiry that will be conducted with compassion. I don’tknow why the minister has not intervened publicly, but I willfollow up and attempt to get an answer.

Senator Boisvenu: I would like to go back to a question Iasked on May 5, 2022.

An interim report from the public inquiry mentioned that thevictims’ families and the broader Portapique community have notreceived any mental health or financial support from the federalgovernment.

Over the past two years, the federal government has donenothing to help victims’ families and the community deal withtheir post-traumatic stress. I’m sure you can imagine how themurders of 22 people would scar a community.

You didn’t answer my question, and I haven’t received anyinformation from you about this. Will the Prime Minister honourthe promise he made at the start of the public inquiry and supportthe victims and the community?

Senator Gold: Thank you for the question and for followingup.

The government is aware of your question, but I haven’t gottena response, unfortunately. I will try again to get an answer andwill get back to you soon.

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ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE

PAN-CANADIAN FRAMEWORK ON CLEAN GROWTH AND CLIMATE CHANGE

Hon. Larry W. Smith: Honourable senators, my question isfor Senator Gold.

In 2016, then-minister of the environment Catherine McKennacommitted that government operations, including military bases,would be fully powered by renewable energy by 2025. In a recentresponse to an Order Paper question on this very topic, thegovernment reiterated its commitment to purchase 100% cleanelectricity by 2025 to power government facilities. In the sameresponse, the government conceded variances across provinceswith respect to clean-energy use on Department of NationalDefence bases and facilities. For example, less than 28% ofelectricity on three DND facilities in Nova Scotia comes fromclean energy, and less than 9% of electricity powering four DNDfacilities in Nunavut comes from clean energy.

Senator Gold, is the government on track to maintain thiscommitment by year 2025? If so, what plans are in place forjurisdictions where military bases are operating well below100% renewable energy?

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Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you for your question. I will have to makeinquiries; I won’t speculate.

We can all appreciate the differences between providing cleanenergy in our home provinces, blessed as we are with abundanthydro power, and those in the North whose lives revolve arounddiesel delivered by barges and tankers once or twice a year.

So I’ll make inquiries and try to report back.

Senator Smith: I would appreciate that information.

The government also maintains its commitment to transition itsfleet of light-duty vehicles to 100% zero-emission vehicles by2030. As of March 31, 2022, the government’s light-duty fleetcontained approximately 18,000 vehicles but less than3% accounted for zero-emission vehicles, or ZEVs for short.

Senator Gold, given market constraints for electric vehicles,including the fact that, in many cases, there are no suitablevehicles that meet the operational requirements of thegovernment, is this commitment feasible?

Senator Gold: I’ll certainly add those to the inquiries I willmake.

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PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE

ADOPTION OF SECRET ORDERS-IN-COUNCIL

Hon. Claude Carignan: My question is for the GovernmentRepresentative in the Senate, because the government isaccountable to this chamber. My question has to do withtransparency.

This morning, CBC reported that this government has adopted72 secret orders-in-council since 2015. That is a record number,significantly surpassing the number adopted by all primeministers of Canada. How does the government explain these72 secret orders-in-council?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in theSenate): Thank you for the question. The government hasconsistently stressed the importance of being transparent withCanadians and has made that a priority. The government alsoensures that its activities are in keeping with national securityneeds.

As you know, honourable senator, despite the number that youmentioned, this really is nothing new. The government isrequired, often by law, as is the case with the Investment CanadaAct, to protect information on certain subjects, such as nationalsecurity and the confidentiality of investments.

I cannot presume the exact reasons, but I want to reassure thischamber that the government takes its responsibilities seriouslywhen it comes to striking a balance between transparency, theprotection of national security and other relevant issues.

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ORDERS OF THE DAY

THE ESTIMATES, 2022-23

NATIONAL FINANCE COMMITTEE AUTHORIZED TO STUDYSUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (A)

Hon. Raymonde Gagné (Legislative Deputy to theGovernment Representative in the Senate), pursuant to noticeof May 31, 2022, moved:

That the Standing Senate Committee on National Financebe authorized to examine and report upon the expendituresset out in the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscalyear ending March 31, 2023;

That, for the purpose of this study, the committee have thepower to meet, even though the Senate may then be sittingor adjourned, and that rules 12-18(1) and 12-18(2) besuspended in relation thereto; and

That the committee be permitted, notwithstanding usualpractices, to deposit its report with the Clerk of the Senate, ifthe Senate is not then sitting, and that the report be deemedto have been tabled in the Senate.

The Hon. the Speaker: Is it your pleasure, honourablesenators, to adopt the motion?

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

(Motion agreed to.)

(At 3:01 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate onMay 5, 2022, the Senate adjourned until 2 p.m., tomorrow.)

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APPENDIX

DELAYED ANSWERS TO ORAL QUESTIONS

IMMIGRATION, REFUGEES AND CITIZENSHIP

AFGHAN REFUGEES

(Response to question raised by the Honourable RatnaOmidvar on February 8, 2022)

Insofar as Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada(IRCC) is concerned:

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and otherimplicated government departments and agencies havecollectively implemented a whole-of-government response,meeting regularly to ensure we are working collaborativelyand proactively responding to issues. Since August 21, 2021,our collaboration has resulted in the arrival of over8,000 Afghans to Canada, and more arrive every week.

The majority of Afghans wanting to resettle in Canada,and meeting the criteria of the Special ImmigrationMeasures, are still located in Afghanistan. As a result of theTaliban’s control of Afghanistan, its status as a terroristorganization and the safety concerns for both clients andemployees, IRCC does not have a physical presence inAfghanistan. For Afghans seeking to come to Canada,leaving Afghanistan can be extremely dangerous anddifficult. The preponderance of issues impeding theirimmigration to Canada relate to securing safe transit out ofAfghanistan.

IRCC is working with partners and neighbouring countrieson how best to facilitate the safe movement of Afghannationals out of Afghanistan so that the processing of theirapplications can continue. You may rest assured that theGovernment of Canada is working tirelessly and devotingthe necessary resources to resettle these vulnerable personssafely to Canada as quickly as possible.

AFGHAN REFUGEES

(Response to question raised by the Honourable Mobina S. B.Jaffer on February 21, 2022)

Insofar as Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada(IRCC) is concerned:

Canada is working to bring as many vulnerable Afghansas possible to safety in Canada, as quickly as is practicable.IRCC has already brought 8,580 new Afghans to Canada asof March 1, 2022, as part of the government’s multi-yearcommitment to resettle at least 40,000 Afghan nationals. As

of February 21, 2022, IRCC has approved over10,000 applications for Afghan nationals who assisted theGovernment of Canada (e.g., locally engaged staff,interpreters), along with their family members. Of these,4,880 Afghans have since begun their new lives in Canada.Another 3,700 have been resettled to Canada through ourhumanitarian program, which focuses on women, LGBTQ2people, human rights defenders, journalists and members ofreligious and ethnic minorities.

IRCC has streamlined the application process for Afghanapplicants, and continues to prioritize and process thesecases as quickly as possible for those inside and outside ofAfghanistan. Depending on an individual’s circumstances,however, every step of the process can bring uniquechallenges. Full admissibility assessments, includingsecurity screening, must be completed before a decision canbe reached on any application. Some cases are complex, andthus the screening aspect of the process can take additionaltime to ensure rigorous assessment.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS

UKRAINE—RUSSIA’S ACTIONS

(Response to question raised by the Honourable MarilouMcPhedran on February 24, 2022)

Global Affairs Canada (GAC)

All international assistance provided by Global AffairsCanada in response to the illegal invasion of Ukraine,including $245 million in humanitarian assistance, is guidedby Canada’s Feminist International Assistance Policy andrequires gender-based analysis.

Canada is providing assistance through United Nationsorganizations, the Red Cross Movement and tonon‑governmental organizations to address the needs ofwomen and girls related to gender-based violence. Thisincludes lifesaving services such as crisis rooms;counselling; distribution of cash and dignity kits; and accessto sexual and reproductive health services.

Other support includes programming provided throughUN Women and Justice Rapid Response for assessments ofthe needs of women and girls in Ukraine and neighbouringcountries, as well as the deployment of specializedinvestigators with sexual violence and criminal investigationexpertise. Canada is contributing to the Women’s Peace andHumanitarian Fund to support women’s organizations toprovide protection and psychological support, whileensuring that women are supported to work towards conflictresolution.

Canada is also pursuing accountability through theInternational Criminal Court, whose statute expresslyproscribes various forms of sexual violence as underlyingacts of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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IMMIGRATION, REFUGEES AND CITIZENSHIP

UKRAINIAN REFUGEES

(Response to question raised by the Honourable RatnaOmidvar on March 1, 2022)

Insofar as Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada(IRCC) is concerned:

The Government of Canada is committed to helpingUkrainians and has announced a number of new measures tohelp people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.When consulting with the Ukrainian community, we heardthat a number of Ukrainians may want to come to Canadatemporarily and then return home when it is safe to do so.Therefore, a new temporary residence pathway was neededto urgently bring Ukrainians seeking temporary refuge intoCanada. Having the Canada-Ukraine Authorization forEmergency Travel (CUAET) available, in addition topermanent residence pathways (including familysponsorship), will allow Canada to welcome moreUkrainians fleeing violence.

The CUAET is open to an unlimited number ofUkrainians. These measures allow clients to stay for up tothree years, with the option to work or study while here.This is the fastest, safest and most efficient way forUkrainians and their immediate family members to come toCanada and eliminates many of the normal visarequirements. IRCC has already received more than50,000 applications under this program. Further, inrecognition that many Canadians and permanent residentshave family in Ukraine, IRCC is quickly implementing aspecial family reunification sponsorship pathway.

JUSTICE

CONVERSION THERAPY

(Response to question raised by the Honourable Mary Coyleon March 22, 2022)

Department of Justice

Department of Justice officials continue to monitor bothCanadian and international developments on conversiontherapy, as well as any relevant jurisprudence, and willcontinue to work through existing federal, provincial andterritorial fora to facilitate collaboration and monitor theirexperiences with conversion therapy cases. Additionally,Statistics Canada tracks police-reported incidents of crime,as well as charges laid and convictions entered underCriminal Code offences.

As a general rule, Canadian courts have jurisdiction overcrimes committed within Canada. However, Canadian courtsalso have jurisdiction to prosecute where there is a real andsubstantial link between Canada and the offence. Such a link

may be established in cases where conversion therapy isprovided online to Canadians by persons residing in anothercountry.

To enhance our understanding of the impact of conversiontherapy on those subjected to it, the Department of Justicehas contracted with the Community-Based Research CentreSociety to undertake qualitative, in-depth interviews withsurvivors of conversion therapy from across the country.Also, in January 2022, the Department of Justice made$1 million available through the Victims Fund to support thedevelopment of public legal education and information(PLEI) resources and materials regarding the newconversion therapy-related offences.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS

GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE UNITED NATIONS

(Response to question raised by the Honourable MarilouMcPhedran on March 22, 2022)

Global Affairs Canada (GAC)

Canada is coordinating efforts with allies and partners tosupport Ukraine and to pressure Russia to end its war onUkraine. Canada calls on Russia to immediately cease allhostile and provocative actions against Ukraine, withdrawall military and proxy forces from the country and turn togood-faith diplomacy. Canada also supports ongoingnegotiations between Ukraine and Russia.

Canada played a key role in the eleventh emergencyspecial session of the United Nations General Assembly andthe adoption of resolutions on Russia’s aggression againstUkraine, humanitarian consequences and suspending Russiafrom the Human Rights Council.

Canada continues to work at the United Nations onoptions to support Ukraine and promote international peaceand security.

VETERANS AFFAIRS

SETTLEMENT OF CLAIMS

(Response to question raised by the Honourable Donald NeilPlett on May 18, 2022)

Veterans Affairs Canada

Veterans Affairs Canada is subject to the provisions of thePrivacy Act and the Access to Information Act related to thedisclosure of personal information and, as such, cannotrespond to questions about individual clients.

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Veterans Affairs Canada acknowledges the significantcontributions that veterans and Canadian Armed Forcesmembers have made, and continue to make, in protectingCanadians and their peace and security at home and aroundthe world. These men and women deserve the greatestrecognition and respect for their service. Veterans Affairs

Canada maintains an open-door policy for communicationand collaboration on their issues and priorities.

This case deals with issues that are being addressed byVeterans Affairs Canada.

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THE SPEAKER

The Honourable George J. Furey

THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE IN THE SENATE

The Honourable Marc Gold

THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION

The Honourable Donald Neil Plett

FACILITATOR OF THE INDEPENDENT SENATORS GROUP

The Honourable Raymonde Saint-Germain

THE LEADER OF THE CANADIAN SENATORS GROUP

The Honourable Scott Tannas

THE LEADER OF THE PROGRESSIVE SENATE GROUP

The Honourable Jane Cordy

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OFFICERS OF THE SENATE

INTERIM CLERK OF THE SENATE AND CLERK OF THE PARLIAMENTS

Gérald Lafrenière

LAW CLERK AND PARLIAMENTARY COUNSEL

Philippe Hallée

USHER OF THE BLACK ROD

J. Greg Peters

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THE MINISTRY

(In order of precedence)

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(June 1, 2022)

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The Right Hon. Justin Trudeau

The Hon. Chrystia Freeland

The Hon. Lawrence MacAulay

The Hon. Carolyn Bennett

The Hon. Dominic LeBlanc

The Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos

The Hon. Marie-Claude Bibeau

The Hon. Mélanie Joly

The Hon. Diane Lebouthillier

The Hon. Harjit S. Sajjan

The Hon. Carla Qualtrough

The Hon. Patty Hajdu

The Hon. François-Philippe Champagne

The Hon. Karina Gould

The Hon. Ahmed Hussen

The Hon. Ginette Petitpas Taylor

The Hon. Seamus O’Regan

The Hon. Pablo Rodriguez

The Hon. Bill Blair

The Hon. Mary Ng

The Hon. Filomena Tassi

The Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson

The Hon. David Lametti

The Hon. Joyce Murray

The Hon. Anita Anand

The Hon. Mona Fortier

The Hon. Steven Guilbeault

The Hon. Marco Mendicino

The Hon. Marc Miller

The Hon. Dan Vandal

The Hon. Omar Alghabra

The Hon. Randy Boissonnault

The Hon. Sean Fraser

The Hon. Mark Holland

The Hon. Gudie Hutchings

The Hon. Marci Ien

The Hon. Helena Jaczek

The Hon. Kamal Khera

The Hon. Pascale St-Onge

Prime Minister

Minister of Finance

Deputy Prime Minister

Minister of Veterans Affairs

Associate Minister of National Defence

Minister of Mental Health and Addictions

Associate Minister of Health

Minister of Infrastructure and Communities

Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs

Minister of Health

Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Minister of Foreign Affairs

Minister of National Revenue

Minister of International Development

Minister responsible for the Pacific Economic Development Agency of

Canada

Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and

Disability Inclusion

Minister of Indigenous Services

Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for

Northern Ontario

Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry

Minister of Families, Children and Social Development

Minister of Housing and Diversity and Inclusion

Minister of Official Languages

Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Minister of Labour

Minister of Canadian Heritage

President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada

Minister of Emergency Preparedness

Minister of Economic Development

Minister of International Trade

Minister of Small Business and Export Promotion

Minister of Public Services and Procurement

Minister of National Resources

Minister of Justice

Attorney General of Canada

Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard

Minister of National Defence

President of the Treasury Board

Minister of Environment and Climate Change

Minister of Public Safety

Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations

Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada

Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development

Agency

Minister of Northern Affairs

Minister of Transport

Minister of Tourism

Associate Minister of Finance

Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship

Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Minister of Rural Economic Development

Minister of Women and Gender Equality and Youth

Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Agency for Southern Ontario

Minister of Seniors

Minister of Sport

Minister responsible for the Economic Development Agency of Canada for

the Regions of Quebec

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SENATORS OF CANADA

ACCORDING TO SENIORITY

(June 1, 2022)

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

George J. Furey, Speaker ..................................

Jane Cordy .........................................................

Mobina S. B. Jaffer ...........................................

Pierrette Ringuette .............................................

Percy E. Downe .................................................

Paul J. Massicotte ..............................................

Larry W. Campbell ............................................

Dennis Dawson .................................................

Sandra M. Lovelace Nicholas ...........................

Stephen Greene .................................................

Michael L. MacDonald .....................................

Percy Mockler ...................................................

Pamela Wallin ...................................................

Yonah Martin ....................................................

Patrick Brazeau .................................................

Leo Housakos ....................................................

Donald Neil Plett ...............................................

Claude Carignan, P.C. .......................................

Dennis Glen Patterson .......................................

Elizabeth Marshall.............................................

Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu ....................................

Judith G. Seidman .............................................

Rose-May Poirier ..............................................

Salma Ataullahjan .............................................

Fabian Manning ................................................

Larry W. Smith ..................................................

Josée Verner, P.C. .............................................

Jean-Guy Dagenais ............................................

Vernon White ....................................................

Diane Bellemare ................................................

David M. Wells .................................................

Victor Oh ...........................................................

Denise Batters ...................................................

Scott Tannas ......................................................

Peter Harder, P.C. ..............................................

Raymonde Gagné ..............................................

Frances Lankin, P.C. .........................................

Ratna Omidvar ..................................................

Chantal Petitclerc ..............................................

Yuen Pau Woo ..................................................

Patricia Bovey ...................................................

René Cormier ....................................................

Nancy J. Hartling ..............................................

Kim Pate ............................................................

Tony Dean .......................................................

Wanda Elaine Thomas Bernard .......................

Sabi Marwah .....................................................

Howard Wetston ................................................

Lucie Moncion ..................................................

Renée Dupuis ....................................................

Marilou McPhedran...........................................

Newfoundland and Labrador ..................................

Nova Scotia ............................................................

British Columbia ....................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Charlottetown .........................................................

De Lanaudière ........................................................

British Columbia ....................................................

Lauzon ....................................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Halifax - The Citadel ..............................................

Cape Breton ............................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Saskatchewan .........................................................

British Columbia ....................................................

Repentigny .............................................................

Wellington ..............................................................

Landmark ...............................................................

Mille Isles ...............................................................

Nunavut ..................................................................

Newfoundland and Labrador ..................................

La Salle ..................................................................

De la Durantaye ......................................................

New Brunswick—Saint-Louis-de-Kent .................

Ontario (Toronto) ...................................................

Newfoundland and Labrador ..................................

Saurel .....................................................................

Montarville .............................................................

Victoria ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Alma .......................................................................

Newfoundland and Labrador ..................................

Mississauga ............................................................

Saskatchewan .........................................................

Alberta ....................................................................

Ottawa ....................................................................

Manitoba ................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Grandville ...............................................................

British Columbia ....................................................

Manitoba ................................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Nova Scotia (East Preston) .....................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

The Laurentides ......................................................

Manitoba ................................................................

St. John’s, Nfld. & Lab.

Dartmouth, N.S.

North Vancouver, B.C.

Edmundston, N.B.

Charlottetown, P.E.I.

Mont-Saint-Hilaire, Que.

Vancouver, B.C.

Sainte-Foy, Que.

Tobique First Nations, N.B.

Halifax, N.S.

Dartmouth, N.S.

St. Leonard, N.B.

Wadena, Sask.

Vancouver, B.C.

Maniwaki, Que.

Laval, Que.

Landmark, Man.

Saint-Eustache, Que.

Iqaluit, Nunavut

Paradise, Nfld. & Lab.

Sherbrooke, Que.

Saint-Raphaël, Que.

Saint-Louis-de-Kent, N.B.

Toronto, Ont.

St. Bride’s, Nfld. & Lab.

Hudson, Que.

Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, Que.

Blainville, Que.

Ottawa, Ont.

Outremont, Que.

St. John’s, Nfld. & Lab.

Mississauga, Ont.

Regina, Sask.

High River, Alta.

Manotick, Ont.

Winnipeg, Man.

Restoule, Ont.

Toronto, Ont.

Montreal, Que.

North Vancouver, B.C.

Winnipeg, Man.

Caraquet, N.B.

Riverview, N.B.

Ottawa, Ont.

Toronto, Ont.

East Preston, N.S.

Toronto, Ont.

Toronto, Ont.

North Bay, Ont.

Sainte-Pétronille, Que.

Winnipeg, Man.

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Senator Designation Post Office Address

Gwen Boniface ..................................................

Éric Forest .........................................................

Marc Gold .........................................................

Marie-Françoise Mégie .....................................

Raymonde Saint-Germain .................................

Dan Christmas ...................................................

Rosa Galvez ......................................................

David Richards ..................................................

Mary Coyle........................................................

Mary Jane McCallum ........................................

Robert Black......................................................

Marty Deacon ....................................................

Yvonne Boyer ...................................................

Mohamed-Iqbal Ravalia ....................................

Pierre J. Dalphond .............................................

Donna Dasko .....................................................

Colin Deacon .....................................................

Julie Miville-Dechêne .......................................

Bev Busson .......................................................

Marty Klyne ......................................................

Patti LaBoucane-Benson ...................................

Paula Simons .....................................................

Peter M. Boehm ................................................

Brian Francis .....................................................

Margaret Dawn Anderson .................................

Pat Duncan ........................................................

Rosemary Moodie .............................................

Stan Kutcher ......................................................

Tony Loffreda ...................................................

Brent Cotter .......................................................

Hassan Yussuff ..................................................

Bernadette Clement ...........................................

Jim Quinn ..........................................................

Karen Sorensen .................................................

Amina Gerba .....................................................

Clément Gignac .................................................

Michèle Audette ................................................

David Arnot .......................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Gulf ........................................................................

Stadacona ...............................................................

Rougemont .............................................................

De la Vallière .........................................................

Nova Scotia ............................................................

Bedford ...................................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Nova Scotia ............................................................

Manitoba ................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Waterloo Region ....................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Newfoundland and Labrador ..................................

De Lorimier ............................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Nova Scotia ............................................................

Inkerman ................................................................

British Columbia ....................................................

Saskatchewan .........................................................

Alberta ....................................................................

Alberta ....................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Prince Edward Island .............................................

Northwest Territories .............................................

Yukon .....................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Nova Scotia ............................................................

Shawinegan ............................................................

Saskatchewan .........................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

Ontario ...................................................................

New Brunswick ......................................................

Alberta ....................................................................

Rigaud ....................................................................

Kennebec ................................................................

De Salaberry ...........................................................

Saskatchewan .........................................................

Orillia, Ont.

Rimouski, Que.

Westmount, Que.

Montreal, Que.

Quebec City, Que

Membertou, N.S.

Lévis, Que.

Fredericton, N.B.

Antigonish, N.S.

Winnipeg, Man.

Centre Wellington, Ont.

Waterloo, Ont.

Merrickville-Wolford, Ont.

Twillingate, Nfld. & Lab.

Montreal, Que.

Toronto, Ont.

Halifax, N.S.

Mont-Royal, Que.

North Okanagan Region, B.C.

White City, Sask.

Spruce Grove, Alta.

Edmonton, Alta.

Ottawa, Ont.

Rocky Point, P.E.I.

Yellowknife, N.W.T.

Whitehorse, Yukon

Toronto, Ont.

Halifax, N.S.

Montreal, Que.

Saskatoon, Sask.

Toronto, Ont.

Cornwall, Ont.

Saint John, N.B.

Banff, Alta.

Blainville, Que.

Lac Saint-Joseph, Que.

Quebec City, Que.

Saskatoon, Sask.

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ALPHABETICAL LIST

(June 1, 2022)

Senator Designation Post Office Address Political Affiliation

The Honourable

Anderson, Margaret Dawn ..............

Arnot, David ....................................

Ataullahjan, Salma ..........................

Audette, Michèle .............................

Batters, Denise ................................

Bellemare, Diane .............................

Bernard, Wanda Elaine Thomas ......

Black, Robert...................................

Boehm, Peter M. .............................

Boisvenu, Pierre-Hugues .................

Boniface, Gwen ...............................

Bovey, Patricia ................................

Boyer, Yvonne ................................

Brazeau, Patrick ..............................

Busson, Bev.....................................

Campbell, Larry W. .........................

Carignan, Claude, P.C. ....................

Christmas, Dan ................................

Clement, Bernadette ........................

Cordy, Jane ......................................

Cormier, René .................................

Cotter, Brent ....................................

Coyle, Mary.....................................

Dagenais, Jean-Guy .........................

Dalphond, Pierre J. ..........................

Dasko, Donna ..................................

Dawson, Dennis ..............................

Deacon, Colin ..................................

Deacon, Marty .................................

Dean, Tony ......................................

Downe, Percy E. ..............................

Duncan, Pat .....................................

Dupuis, Renée .................................

Forest, Éric ......................................

Francis, Brian ..................................

Furey, George J., Speaker ...............

Gagné, Raymonde ...........................

Galvez, Rosa ...................................

Gerba, Amina ..................................

Gignac, Clément ..............................

Gold, Marc ......................................

Greene, Stephen ..............................

Harder, Peter, P.C. ...........................

Hartling, Nancy J.............................

Housakos, Leo .................................

Jaffer, Mobina S. B. ........................

Klyne, Marty ...................................

Kutcher, Stan ...................................

LaBoucane-Benson, Patti ................

Lankin, Frances, P.C. ......................

Northwest Territories ..........................

Saskatchewan ......................................

Ontario (Toronto) ................................

De Salaberry ........................................

Saskatchewan ......................................

Alma ....................................................

Nova Scotia (East Preston) ..................

Ontario ................................................

Ontario ................................................

La Salle ...............................................

Ontario ................................................

Manitoba .............................................

Ontario ................................................

Repentigny ..........................................

British Columbia .................................

British Columbia .................................

Mille Isles ............................................

Nova Scotia .........................................

Ontario ................................................

Nova Scotia .........................................

New Brunswick ...................................

Saskatchewan ......................................

Nova Scotia .........................................

Victoria ................................................

De Lorimier .........................................

Ontario ................................................

Lauzon .................................................

Nova Scotia .........................................

Waterloo Region .................................

Ontario ................................................

Charlottetown ......................................

Yukon ..................................................

The Laurentides ...................................

Gulf .....................................................

Prince Edward Island ..........................

Newfoundland and Labrador ...............

Manitoba .............................................

Bedford ................................................

Rigaud .................................................

Kennebec .............................................

Stadacona ............................................

Halifax - The Citadel ...........................

Ottawa .................................................

New Brunswick ...................................

Wellington ...........................................

British Columbia .................................

Saskatchewan ......................................

Nova Scotia .........................................

Alberta .................................................

Ontario ................................................

Yellowknife, N.W.T. ........................

Saskatoon, Sask. ...............................

Toronto, Ont. ....................................

Quebec City, Que. ............................

Regina, Sask. ....................................

Outremont, Que. ...............................

East Preston, N.S. .............................

Centre Wellington, Ont. ...................

Ottawa, Ont. .....................................

Sherbrooke, Que. ..............................

Orillia, Ont. ......................................

Winnipeg, Man. ................................

Merrickville-Wolford, Ont. ..............

Maniwaki, Que. ................................

North Okanagan Region, B.C. ..........

Vancouver, B.C. ...............................

Saint-Eustache, Que. ........................

Membertou, N.S. ..............................

Cornwall, Ont. ..................................

Dartmouth, N.S. ...............................

Caraquet, N.B. ..................................

Saskatoon, Sask. ...............................

Antigonish, N.S. ...............................

Blainville, Que. ................................

Montreal, Que. .................................

Toronto, Ont. ....................................

Ste-Foy, Que. ...................................

Halifax, N.S. .....................................

Waterloo, Ont. ..................................

Toronto, Ont. ....................................

Charlottetown, P.E.I. ........................

Whitehorse, Yukon...........................

Sainte-Pétronille, Que. .....................

Rimouski, Que. .................................

Rocky Point, P.E.I. ...........................

St. John’s, Nfld. & Lab. ...................

Winnipeg, Man. ................................

Lévis, Que. .......................................

Blainville, Que. ................................

Lac Saint-Joseph, Que. .....................

Westmount, Que. ..............................

Halifax, N.S. .....................................

Manotick, Ont. .................................

Riverview, N.B. ................................

Laval, Que. .......................................

North Vancouver, B.C. .....................

White City, Sask. ..............................

Halifax, N.S. .....................................

Spruce Grove, Alta. ..........................

Restoule, Ont. ...................................

Progressive Senate Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Canadian Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Independent Senators Group

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Independent Senators Group

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Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Canadian Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Canadian Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

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Non-affiliated

Non-affiliated

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Progressive Senate Group

Non-affiliated

Canadian Senators Group

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Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

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Loffreda, Tony ...............................

Lovelace Nicholas, Sandra M. .......

MacDonald, Michael L. .................

Manning, Fabian ............................

Marshall, Elizabeth.........................

Martin, Yonah ................................

Marwah, Sabi .................................

Massicotte, Paul J. ..........................

McCallum, Mary Jane ....................

McPhedran, Marilou.......................

Mégie, Marie-Françoise .................

Miville-Dechêne, Julie ...................

Mockler, Percy ...............................

Moncion, Lucie ..............................

Moodie, Rosemary .........................

Oh, Victor .......................................

Omidvar, Ratna ..............................

Pate, Kim ........................................

Patterson, Dennis Glen ...................

Petitclerc, Chantal ..........................

Plett, Donald Neil ...........................

Poirier, Rose-May ..........................

Quinn, Jim ......................................

Ravalia, Mohamed-Iqbal ................

Richards, David ..............................

Ringuette, Pierrette .........................

Saint-Germain, Raymonde .............

Seidman, Judith G. .........................

Simons, Paula .................................

Smith, Larry W. ..............................

Sorensen, Karen .............................

Tannas, Scott ..................................

Verner, Josée, P.C. .........................

Wallin, Pamela ...............................

Wells, David M. .............................

Wetston, Howard ............................

White, Vernon ................................

Woo, Yuen Pau ..............................

Yussuff, Hassan ..............................

Shawinegan ...........................................

New Brunswick .....................................

Cape Breton ...........................................

Newfoundland and Labrador .................

Newfoundland and Labrador .................

British Columbia ...................................

Ontario ..................................................

De Lanaudière .......................................

Manitoba ...............................................

Manitoba ...............................................

Rougemont ............................................

Inkerman ...............................................

New Brunswick .....................................

Ontario ..................................................

Ontario ..................................................

Mississauga ...........................................

Ontario ..................................................

Ontario ..................................................

Nunavut .................................................

Grandville ..............................................

Landmark ..............................................

New Brunswick—Saint-Louis-de-Kent

New Brunswick .....................................

Newfoundland and Labrador .................

New Brunswick .....................................

New Brunswick .....................................

De la Vallière ........................................

De la Durantaye .....................................

Alberta ...................................................

Saurel ....................................................

Alberta ...................................................

Alberta ...................................................

Montarville ............................................

Saskatchewan ........................................

Newfoundland and Labrador .................

Ontario ..................................................

Ontario ..................................................

British Columbia ...................................

Ontario ..................................................

Montreal, Que. ......................................

Tobique First Nations, N.B. ..................

Dartmouth, N.S. ....................................

St. Bride’s, Nfld. & Lab. .......................

Paradise, Nfld. & Lab. ...........................

Vancouver, B.C. ....................................

Toronto, Ont. .........................................

Mont-Saint-Hilaire, Que. .......................

Winnipeg, Man. .....................................

Winnipeg, Man. .....................................

Montreal, Que. ......................................

Mont-Royal, Que. ..................................

St. Leonard, N.B. ...................................

North Bay, Ont. .....................................

Toronto, Ont. .........................................

Mississauga, Ont. ..................................

Toronto, Ont. .........................................

Ottawa, Ont. ..........................................

Iqaluit, Nunavut .....................................

Montreal, Que. ......................................

Landmark, Man. ....................................

Saint-Louis-de-Kent, N.B......................

Saint John, N.B. ....................................

Twillingate, Nfld. & Lab. ......................

Fredericton, N.B. ...................................

Edmundston, N.B. .................................

Quebec City, Que. .................................

Saint-Raphaël, Que................................

Edmonton, Alta. ....................................

Hudson, Que. .........................................

Banff, Alta. ............................................

High River, Alta. ...................................

Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, Que. .....

Wadena, Sask. .......................................

St. John’s, Nfld. & Lab. ........................

Toronto, Ont. .........................................

Ottawa, Ont. ..........................................

North Vancouver, B.C. ..........................

Toronto, Ont. .........................................

Independent Senators Group

Progressive Senate Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Conservative Party of Canada

Conservative Party of Canada

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Non-affiliated

Non-affiliated

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Canadian Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Conservative Party of Canada

Canadian Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Canadian Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Independent Senators Group

Conservative Party of Canada

Independent Senators Group

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Independent Senators Group

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SENATORS OF CANADA

BY PROVINCE AND TERRITORY

(June 1, 2022)

ONTARIO—24

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Salma Ataullahjan ....................................

2 Vernon White ...........................................

3 Victor Oh .................................................

4 Peter Harder, P.C. ....................................

5 Frances Lankin, P.C. ................................

6 Ratna Omidvar .........................................

7 Kim Pate ..................................................

8 Tony Dean ...............................................

9 Sabi Marwah ............................................

10 Howard Wetston ......................................

11 Lucie Moncion .........................................

12 Gwen Boniface ........................................

13 Robert Black ............................................

14 Marty Deacon ..........................................

15 Yvonne Boyer ..........................................

16 Donna Dasko ...........................................

17 Peter M. Boehm .......................................

18 Rosemary Moodie ....................................

19 Hassan Yussuff ........................................

20 Bernadette Clement ..................................

21 . ................................................................

22 . ................................................................

23 . ................................................................

24 . ................................................................

Ontario (Toronto) ..............................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Mississauga .......................................................

Ottawa ...............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Waterloo Region ...............................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

Ontario ..............................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

Toronto

Ottawa

Mississauga

Manotick

Restoule

Toronto

Ottawa

Toronto

Toronto

Toronto

North Bay

Orillia

Centre Wellington

Waterloo

Merrickville-Wolford

Toronto

Ottawa

Toronto

Toronto

Cornwall

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SENATORS BY PROVINCE AND TERRITORY

QUEBEC—24

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Paul J. Massicotte ....................................

2 Dennis Dawson ........................................

3 Patrick Brazeau ........................................

4 Leo Housakos ..........................................

5 Claude Carignan, P.C. ..............................

6 Judith G. Seidman ....................................

7 Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu ..........................

8 Larry W. Smith ........................................

9 Josée Verner, P.C. ....................................

10 Jean-Guy Dagenais ..................................

11 Diane Bellemare ......................................

12 Chantal Petitclerc .....................................

13 Renée Dupuis ...........................................

14 Éric Forest ................................................

15 Marc Gold ................................................

16 Marie-Françoise Mégie ............................

17 Raymonde Saint-Germain ........................

18 Rosa Galvez .............................................

19 Pierre J. Dalphond ....................................

20 Julie Miville-Dechêne ..............................

21 Tony Loffreda ..........................................

22 Amina Gerba ............................................

23 Clément Gignac .......................................

24 Michèle Audette .......................................

De Lanaudière ...................................................

Lauzon ...............................................................

Repentigny ........................................................

Wellington .........................................................

Mille Isles ..........................................................

De la Durantaye .................................................

La Salle .............................................................

Saurel ................................................................

Montarville ........................................................

Victoria ..............................................................

Alma ..................................................................

Grandville ..........................................................

The Laurentides .................................................

Gulf ...................................................................

Stadacona ..........................................................

Rougemont ........................................................

De la Vallière ....................................................

Bedford ..............................................................

De Lorimier .......................................................

Inkerman ...........................................................

Shawinegan .......................................................

Rigaud ...............................................................

Kennebec ...........................................................

De Salaberry ......................................................

Mont-Saint-Hilaire

Ste-Foy

Maniwaki

Laval

Saint-Eustache

Saint-Raphaël

Sherbrooke

Hudson

Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures

Blainville

Outremont

Montreal

Saint-Pétronille

Rimouski

Westmount

Montreal

Quebec City

Lévis

Montreal

Mont-Royal

Montreal

Blainville

Lac Saint-Joseph

Quebec City

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NOVA SCOTIA—10

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Jane Cordy ...............................................

2 Stephen Greene ........................................

3 Michael L. MacDonald ............................

4 Wanda Elaine Thomas Bernard ...............

5 Dan Christmas .........................................

6 Mary Coyle ..............................................

7 Colin Deacon ...........................................

8 Stan Kutcher ............................................

9 .................................................................

10 . ................................................................

Nova Scotia .......................................................

Halifax - The Citadel .........................................

Cape Breton .......................................................

Nova Scotia (East Preston) ................................

Nova Scotia .......................................................

Nova Scotia .......................................................

Nova Scotia .......................................................

Nova Scotia .......................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

Dartmouth

Halifax

Dartmouth

East Preston

Membertou

Antigonish

Halifax

Halifax

NEW BRUNSWICK—10

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Pierrette Ringuette ...................................

2 Sandra M. Lovelace Nicholas ..................

3 Percy Mockler ..........................................

4 Rose-May Poirier .....................................

5 René Cormier ...........................................

6 Nancy J. Hartling .....................................

7 David Richards ........................................

8 Jim Quinn.................................................

9 . ................................................................

10 . ................................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick—Saint-Louis-de-Kent ............

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

New Brunswick .................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

Edmundston

Tobique First Nations

St. Leonard

Saint-Louis-de-Kent

Caraquet

Riverview

Fredericton

Saint John

PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND—4

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Percy E. Downe .......................................

2 Brian Francis ............................................

3 . ................................................................

4 . ................................................................

Charlottetown ....................................................

Prince Edward Island ........................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

Charlottetown

Rocky Point

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MANITOBA—6

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Donald Neil Plett .....................................

2 Raymonde Gagné .....................................

3 Patricia Bovey ..........................................

4 Marilou McPhedran .................................

5 Mary Jane McCallum ...............................

6 . ................................................................

Landmark ..........................................................

Manitoba ...........................................................

Manitoba ...........................................................

Manitoba ...........................................................

Manitoba ...........................................................

...........................................................................

Landmark

Winnipeg

Winnipeg

Winnipeg

Winnipeg

BRITISH COLUMBIA—6

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Mobina S. B. Jaffer ..................................

2 Larry W. Campbell ..................................

3 Yonah Martin ...........................................

4 Yuen Pau Woo .........................................

5 Bev Busson ..............................................

6 . ................................................................

British Columbia ...............................................

British Columbia ...............................................

British Columbia ...............................................

British Columbia ...............................................

British Columbia ...............................................

...........................................................................

North Vancouver

Vancouver

Vancouver

North Vancouver

North Okanagan Region

SASKATCHEWAN—6

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Pamela Wallin ..........................................

2 Denise Batters ..........................................

3 Marty Klyne .............................................

4 Brent Cotter .............................................

5 David Arnot .............................................

6 . ................................................................

Saskatchewan ....................................................

Saskatchewan ....................................................

Saskatchewan ....................................................

Saskatchewan ....................................................

Saskatchewan ....................................................

...........................................................................

Wadena

Regina

White City

Saskatoon

Saskatoon

ALBERTA—6

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Scott Tannas .............................................

2 Patti LaBoucane-Benson ..........................

3 Paula Simons ...........................................

4 Karen Sorensen ........................................

5 . ................................................................

6 . ................................................................

Alberta ...............................................................

Alberta ...............................................................

Alberta ...............................................................

Alberta ...............................................................

...........................................................................

...........................................................................

High River

Spruce Grove

Edmonton

Banff

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NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR—6

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 George J. Furey, Speaker .........................

2 Elizabeth Marshall ...................................

3 Fabian Manning .......................................

4 David M. Wells ........................................

5 Mohamed-Iqbal Ravalia...........................

6 . ................................................................

Newfoundland and Labrador .............................

Newfoundland and Labrador .............................

Newfoundland and Labrador .............................

Newfoundland and Labrador .............................

Newfoundland and Labrador .............................

...........................................................................

St. John’s

Paradise

St. Bride’s

St. John’s

Twillingate

NORTHWEST TERRITORIES—1

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Margaret Dawn Anderson ........................

Northwest Territories ........................................

Yellowknife

NUNAVUT—1

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Dennis Glen Patterson..............................

Nunavut .............................................................

Iqaluit

YUKON—1

Senator Designation Post Office Address

The Honourable

1 Pat Duncan ...............................................

Yukon ................................................................

Whitehorse

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SENATORS’ STATEMENTS

Italian Heritage MonthHon. Tony Loffreda . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1507

Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipHon. Peter Harder . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1507

Visitors in the GalleryThe Hon. the Speaker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1508

National Seal Products DayHon. Dennis Glen Patterson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1508

Visitors in the GalleryThe Hon. the Speaker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1508

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth IICongratulations on Platinum JubileeHon. David M. Wells . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1509

Visitors in the GalleryThe Hon. the Speaker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1509

Tribute to Senators Gerba and CoyleHon. René Cormier . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1509

Visitors in the GalleryThe Hon. the Speaker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1510

The Late Bruce Gilchrist Duncan Campbell, O.C.Hon. Donald Neil Plett . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1510

Visitor in the GalleryThe Hon. the Speaker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Auditor General2022 Spring Reports Tabled . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511

AdjournmentNotice of MotionHon. Raymonde Gagné . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511

QUESTION PERIOD

JusticeParole EligibilityHon. Donald Neil Plett . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511

HealthFunding for Primary Health CareHon. Yonah Martin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1511Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1512

National DefenceIndependent External Comprehensive ReviewHon. Mary Coyle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1512Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1512

Canada Mortgage and Housing CorporationNational Housing StrategyHon. Rosemary Moodie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1513Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1513

Foreign Affairs and International TradeBusiness of the CommitteeHon. Patricia Bovey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1513Hon. Peter M. Boehm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1514

Veterans AffairsBusiness of the SubcommitteeHon. Robert Black . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1514Hon. David Richards . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1514

Public SafetyPublic Inquiry into Portapique ShootingHon. Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1515Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1515

Environment and Climate ChangePan-Canadian Framework on Clean Growth and Climate

ChangeHon. Larry W. Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1515Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1516

Privy Council OfficeAdoption of Secret Orders-in-CouncilHon. Claude Carignan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1516Hon. Marc Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1516

Delayed Answers to Oral Questions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1516

ORDERS OF THE DAY

The Estimates, 2022-23National Finance Committee Authorized to Study

Supplementary Estimates (A)Hon. Raymonde Gagné . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1516

APPENDIX

DELAYED ANSWERS TO ORAL QUESTIONS

Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipAfghan Refugees . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1517Afghan Refugees . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1517

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Foreign AffairsUkraine—Russia’s Actions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1517

Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipUkrainian Refugees . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1518

JusticeConversion Therapy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1518

Foreign AffairsGeneral Assembly of the United Nations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1518

Veterans AffairsSettlement of Claims . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1518

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