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Dealing with Difficult People

•Ithra Session — March 2004

•Master Gareth Tancred Wilfrith

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Class Scope

•People within our SCA groups (NOT marriage

or family therapy!)

•From an organizational/communicative •From an organizational/communicative

position (I am NOT a clinical psychologist!)

•Talking about people who are relatively

healthy, who act lawfully (I am NOT an

attorney, law enforcement official, or judge!)

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Why do we need

to deal with them at all?

•Part of our groups•Part of our groups

•SCA culture, open to all—who we are

•Diversity—experiences, perspectives

•Better decisions

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What do we mean by “difficult”?

•The coarse, difficult truth is often: “They •The coarse, difficult truth is often: “They

don’t agree with me, and they don’t give up

easily”

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Three categories of “difficult”

•Lacking social skills to effectively

communicate

•Large variance in backgrounds, subcultures, •Large variance in backgrounds, subcultures,

philosophies

•History of hurt, mistrust

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Who are difficult people?

•Usually, much like us, but are not now in

power (or now out of power)

•Sometimes, people who lack social or •Sometimes, people who lack social or

communicative skills

•Often, our past (or future) leaders

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Assumptions

•People are not difficult, but they may do

difficult things

•Our motives are complex, and often hidden

to all, including to usto all, including to us

•People won’t continue to participate in an

activity without some reason

•They get something from participating, for

they come, even if it is unpleasant for them

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No magic answers today, but

some possibilities to considersome possibilities to consider

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“We can’t seem to

grow”

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Potential Problem #1—

Group barriers to new peopleGroup barriers to new people

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“We–ness” or

“in–group/out–group”

•Built with norms, vocabulary,

•History, titles, etiquette•History, titles, etiquette

•Inside jokes

•Can lead others to feel left out

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Serves important functions—not

inherently undesirable

•Powerful tool to form “group”

•Any group must exclude some people•Any group must exclude some people

•Yields cohesiveness

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Particularly common in SCA

•Characteristics of SCA: “no shit” stories,

“secret” meetings of peers, etc.

•We are prone to exclusive communicative •We are prone to exclusive communicative

behaviors—special ways of speaking (even

saying “hi!”

•Consider our use of “mundane”

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Potential Solution—Inclusion

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Role of Chatelaine

•Honor your Chatalaine—make office

attractive to competent people

•By the way, birds of a feather. . . (what do •By the way, birds of a feather. . . (what do

you want your group to look like in three

years?)

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…and,

form structures to:form structures to:

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Ensure people are informed—

avoid embarrassment

•Forms of address

•Unwritten rules•Unwritten rules

•Feasts

•Courts

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Ensure people are involved—

avoid boredom

•Feasts

•Contests•Contests

•Courts

•Post revels

•Long periods of dead time at events

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Potential Solution—Review

physical barriers

•Informal “get togethers”

•Meeting place accessible?•Meeting place accessible?

•Meeting time consistent? convenient?

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Potential Problem #2—

We won’t allow our group We won’t allow our group

to grow

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Symptoms

•Does your group seem to grow to a certain

level, then die back?

•Do you seem to retain a core group, with new •Do you seem to retain a core group, with new

people drifting in and out?

•Existing group may see new people as

threatening their existing “good thing”

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Potential Solution—Make growth

less threatening

•Involve threatened people in recruitment

effortsefforts

•Provide adequate communication about all

new things

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Look for opportunities to honor

long–time members

•“History of SCA”, “court etiquette” lectures

•Point them out as sources of information•Point them out as sources of information

•Push for quick integration of new people

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Avoid too many new things

all at once

•If lots of new people recently, use existing

activities to involve themactivities to involve them

•If (you predict) lots of new people are

coming, then start new activities well in

advance so your group can handle new people

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Factionalism,

Intra–group power strugglesIntra–group power struggles

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Potential Problem #3—

Unbalanced level of social skillsUnbalanced level of social skills

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Why SCA Groups Aren’t Stable

•We tend to attract people who do not interact

well—and those who are excellent

•In SCA, different social rules apply,

everyone is at same level at beginning

•Any social group gains stability with middle–

skilled people

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Potential Solution—Checking

manipulation within groupmanipulation within group

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is someone “having fun”

with the group?

•Usually they are not too involved, but attend•Usually they are not too involved, but attend

•Seem to be “underemployed” in group

•Apparently enjoy manipulation of people

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If so, then confront them - give

them tough responsibilitythem tough responsibility

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Potential Solution—Education

•Remind everyone of norm of acceptance

•Seek out intimidated people for extra •Seek out intimidated people for extra

assistance

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find those with excellent skills

and rely upon them

•Help mend fences

•Prevent misunderstandings

•Increase communication

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Potential Solution—Structuring.

Ambiguity–reductionAmbiguity–reduction

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Structure mixing activities

(e.g. fighting, dance, music

groups)

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Provide more structure

for those who need it

•Be sensitive

•Be adaptable•Be adaptable

•Remember why you started these activities

•Mix more – and less–structured activities

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Potential Problem #4—

Just Plain PettinessJust Plain Pettiness

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SCA’ers tend to place all their

social eggs in one basket

•Therefore, their entire social life is at stake

•Every little problem risks entire social life

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Potential Solution—Lessening

the social risks

•Encourage people to travel, become involved

on regional/kingdom levels (competitions, on regional/kingdom levels (competitions,

guilds, fighting, etc.) or even other

organizations

•Encourage people to make lots of friends

outside of local group

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Potential Problem #5—

Attribution of motivesAttribution of motives

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We’re only human. . .

•We tend to think in terms of why someone

does somethingdoes something

•Of course, we do not know why, so we

attribute motives

•If we expect the worst, we attribute the worst

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Fundamental Attribution Error

If I’m responsible and

something good happens,

it’s because I deserved it—

If I’m responsible and

something bad happens, it’s

because I’m unlucky (or it’s because I deserved it—

I’m a good person.

because I’m unlucky (or

you’re out to get me).

If you’re responsible and

something bad happens,

it’s because you deserve

it—you’re a bad person.

If you’re responsible and

something good happens,

it’s because you’re lucky

(or you benefitted from

my help).

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We easily arrive at a situation

where every act

is seen as an attack

•“Never attribute to malice what can be

explained through incompetence”

—Hilary of Serendip

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Potential Solution—

Monitored communication

•More effective communication without

changing perceptions is likely to worsen the

situation

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provide mediation

•At first, individually, then together

•Stick up for whoever is being attacked

•Relentlessly point towards possible good

motivations

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Find someone who will take care

of you afterwards, because you of you afterwards, because you

will need it!

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Allow lots of time to heal

woundswounds

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Potential Problem #6—

“Cliques”“Cliques”

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Cliques in the SCA

•Entrenched mutually exclusive social circles

(e.g. fighters/artisans, households, gamers, (e.g. fighters/artisans, households, gamers,

students )

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Some characteristics of Cliques

•Communication between groups of people is

difficult

•Doesn’t seem that whole group has anything •Doesn’t seem that whole group has anything

in common

•Ubiquitous mistrust

•“We” talk—not referring to entire group

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Potential Solution—Structured

activities

•Encourage mixing around other criteria

(geography, interests, time in SCA, etc.)(geography, interests, time in SCA, etc.)

•Encourage different people to travel together

•Form new cross–clique interest groups

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Potential Problem #7—

DisenfranchisementDisenfranchisement

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Yes, it does happen here. . .

•Occurs when groups feel they lack power to

guide themselves

•May be “real” or “perceived”—same effect

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Warning signs

●Many officers come from one sub–group

●When someone asks a question, there is an

uneasy silence

● Decision makers boast about no dissent on ● Decision makers boast about no dissent on

important decisions

●Most “business” at meetings involves

“past”— reports about completed activities

● Appeals for help are always for cleaning up,

not planning

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May be evidenced in:

•Withdrawal

•Constant sniping

•Unofficial meetings•Unofficial meetings

•Reluctance to help with group’s tasks

•Physical separation at meetings

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Have you heard these?

•“We gave them the opportunity but they

didn’t take it”

•“Don’t we have a right to spend time with •“Don’t we have a right to spend time with

our friends?”

•“They don’t come to the business meetings”

•“We are doing the dirty work so they can

have fun”

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This is one of the most dangerous

problems a group can face—it

can quickly destroy a group

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Potential Solution—

Trust–building

•Listen carefully

•Encourage open discussion of major

decisions (before the decision)decisions (before the decision)

•Specifically ask for advice from group

members

•Purposely incorporate competent people

from group in group tasks

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Potential Problem #8—

Apparent inaccessibility of

decision–making processesdecision–making processes

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SCA is explicitly not a

democracy, in a culture that

prizes democracy

•Difficult for many to accept•Difficult for many to accept

•Seems inaccessible

•Note that there are actually few real

democracies, but few groups flaunt it!

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Certain individuals

may seem to be tyrants

•We lack “normal” checks and balances on

power, so we substitute other less visible

checks, such as social constraintschecks, such as social constraints

•Awards for appropriate behavior include

rank, decision-making access

•“Word of the Crown”

•We tolerate tyrants

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Potential Solution—

Increase base of decision–makersIncrease base of decision–makers

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Use business meetings to discuss

problem, not to simply announce

decisions

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Purposely invite specific people

to offer opinionsto offer opinions

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Step on those who step on others

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Discourage decision making

outside of group meetingsoutside of group meetings

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Keep meetings on–track and

moving

•You can get much more done•You can get much more done

•Keep peoples’ attention for entire meeting

•Engender sense of accomplishment

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Meet more frequently, make

smaller decisions more oftensmaller decisions more often

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Consider a local event to discuss

future of group

•Priorities

•Events•Events

•Goals (more members, or more activities, or

more awards, not everything)