Alfredo Cordero: “Every country has its own sovereignty and culture but we are still one…” Gerritdina van Petersen: “Poor education makes me question the vision of equality in the Kingdom….” Gregory Bakhuis: “As a Trans-Atlantic Kingdom we can distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world”. Lucia Martis: “It is of utmost importance to remain united as we are still part of one Kingdom”. Cabinet of the Minister Plenipotentiary of Curaçao Volume 1 – Issue 4 – March 2015 KINGDOM EDITION KINGDOM EDITION
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Alfredo Cordero: “Every country has its own sovereignty and culture but we are still one…”
Gerritdina van Petersen: “Poor education makes me question the vision of equality in the Kingdom….”
Gregory Bakhuis:“As a Trans-Atlantic Kingdom we can distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world”.
Lucia Martis: “It is of utmost importance to remain united as we are still part of one Kingdom”.
Cabinet of the Minister Plenipotentiary of Curaçao Volume 1 – Issue 4 – March 2015
KINGDOM EDITION
KINGDOM EDITION
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Cabinet of the Minister Plenipotentiary of CuraçaoWagenaarweg 132597 LM The Hague+31 (0)70 [email protected]
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SHARIZELLE SCHOOP “I believe that our past has made us who we are and I’m of the opinion that we can be proud of this”. 4
GREGORY BAKHUIS “As a Trans-Atlantic Kingdom we can distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world”. 6
LUCIA MARTIS “It is of utmost importance to remain united as we are still part of one Kingdom”. 8
JOHAN OLDENBOOM “The Statute is the all-important manuscript that exemplifies the unity of the Kingdom – the basis of everything”. 10
GERRITDINA VAN PETERSEN “Poor education makes me question the vision of equality in the Kingdom….” 12
ALFREDO CORDERO “Every country has its own sovereignty and culture but we are still one”. 14
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A WORD FROM THE MINISTER
PLENIPOTENTIARY
The general theme of this
edition of Curaçao Precious:
The Kingdom of the Netherlands.
As a politician and a Curaçaoan,
the diversity of the Kingdom of
the Netherlands never cease to
amaze me: several countries, several
official languages, several people,
several climates, yet one Charter.
When it comes to diversity,
Curaçao epitomizes our Kingdom.
Therefore, in this edition of Curaçao
Precious we will be reading the
opinion of people who were born
in Curaçao, in a different country
within the Kingdom or in a
country outside the Kingdom.
I wish you much enjoyment in reading
the fourth issue of Curaçao Precious!
Marvelyne F. Wiels
Minister Plenipotentiary
of Curaçao to the Netherlands
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“To me the Kingdom represents a sea of infinite possibilities”
As of December 2014 the Char-ter for the Kingdom of the Neth-erlands has existed for 60 year. How did this affect you?“The Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands is a broad concept and as a community we are affected by this from different angles. This differs per person. I don’t believe that every person within the Caribbean community in the Netherlands pays tribute to this as they see this as an obvious matter – but thanks to the Charter we possess the Dutch nationality from birth including all the respective possibilities. In my actual job I experience what non-European students have to go through and have to arrange prior to being admitted on to an educational course. This excludes all the anxiety these students still have to undergo with the local government authorities. This is in contrast to students from the Caribbean parts of the Kingdom that are directly admissible – this saves time and money. Only after I moved to the Netherlands, did I become aware of all of this”.
What does our King-dom mean to you?“To me the Kingdom represents a sea of infinite possibilities, either in the Caribbean parts of the Kingdom, in the Netherlands but also internationally. We have the luxury, without too much hassle, to be mobile either for holidays, educational purposes or business trips. Such is not the case for all countries and their inhabitants. The nationality of some people is to their disadvantage whilst this says nothing about a human being”.
What are the benefits of our Kingdom in your opinion? “In my opinion the biggest advantage is the fact that youngsters are almost always directly permissible to an educational course of their choice in the Netherlands on completion of their secondary school education. In addition to this they can make use of several financial concessions that the Dutch government offers during their studies. Therefore I find it a real
pity when students fool around and do not complete their education, as there are plenty of people originating from other nations longing to go to university but are unable to do so”.
Are there disadvantages to being part of a Kingdom in your opinion?“Some people still associate the Kingdom with the history of slave trading. These people are of the opinion that we are still a colony of the Netherlands whilst this is not the case. This remains a sensitive issue and everybody experiences this differently. I believe that our past has made us who we are and I’m of the opinion that we can be proud of this”.
What are your wishes with re-gard to the Kingdom?“Currently not all the countries in the Kingdom are treated as equal participants and not all countries within the Kingdom get the chance to
show all the skills they possess. When given the chance to show our skills we should therefore make use of this opportunity. On 10th October 2010 we took one step in this direction. I furthermore hope that if it should come to the point that the Caribbean parts of the Kingdom cease to be part of the Kingdom, we could at least maintain the good bonds with the Netherlands. It would be a pity to completely dispose of this age-old relationship”.
What is your contribution as a human being and as a pro-fessional to the Kingdom?“As a human being my role is to make sure that I make proper use of the possibilities the Kingdom offers without encouraging abuse of the system. This way future generations can also take full advantage of these opportunities. As a professional I always make use of the various educational and job opportunities in the Netherlands in order to contribute to the development of the Netherlands and my beloved native island. The keyword is awareness – this applies to small and simple things such as possessing Dutch citizenship but also the various opportunities attached to this. If people become more aware of the fact that the advantages of being a Kingdom clearly overshadow the disadvantages, then this will automatically lead to more positive energy”.
“I believe that our past has made us who we are and I’m of the opinion that we can be proud of this”.
Full names: Sharizelle ‘Shari’ Schoop.Date and place of birth: Curaçao, 14 March 1985.Position: Logistics Planner at the Rotterdam University of Applied Sciences and member of the Platform Antillean and Aruban students in Rotterdam (PAAR).
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As of December 2014 the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands has existed for 60 years. How did this affect you?“On 15 December 2014, the Open University in cooperation with the University of Tilburg organized a symposium on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Four experts in the area of constitutional law, under the lead of professor Ernst Hirsch Ballin, were asked to give their view on this commemoration. I had the honor to contribute to this event in the light of the guarantee function of the Kingdom and the respective supervision from The Hague on Curacao, Sint Maarten and
Aruba. It was an interesting afternoon. The Rolzaal in the Inner Court (Binnenhof ) in The Hague was completely full. Among those present were many dignitaries, including Minister Plasterk of the Interior and Kingdom Relations, several members of the House of Representatives, the Chairman of the Second Chamber of Aruba and the Vice President of the Council of State. In addition to this, there were also many lawyers, policy officers, professors, established scientists and interested members of the elder generation in the audience. Many interesting questions and remarks were made especially by this last group. One was able to sense emotions based on pride but also on frustration and old sore”.
“I would love to see us jointly conquering the world”
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What does our King-dom mean to you?“The Kingdom of the Netherlands is in many aspects an extraordinary union of which I’m very proud. From interesting family ties that have come into existence throughout the centuries, to unique constitutional relationships that are laid down in the Charter. I see myself as an example of these historical family ties: my father was born in Curaçao, my mother in Aruba and I myself came into the world in the Netherlands. Furthermore, I also have family links in St. Maarten and Bonaire. The legal and political relationships in the Kingdom are even more interesting. The Charter is a fascinating document worthy of study – in the Preamble one is already able to sense the historical alliance and the peculiar character of this alliance. In my eyes this text is timeless and I look with admiration to the compilers and all involved in its establishment back in those days. From the person who wrote the famous radio broadcast of the late Queen Wilhelmina to the valuable input of the then Dr. Moises da Costa Gomez”.
What are the benefits of our Kingdom in your opinion?“Being constitutionally connected within the Kingdom of the Netherlands has endless benefits for everyone. Geographically we might be situated on two continents, but the connection between our people is important. Citizenship of the Kingdom of the Netherlands is a suitcase full of hidden treasures. All of us have different roots and still we have many common values – we actually possess the best of many worlds”.
What are the disadvantag-es of being part of a King-dom in your opinion?“I do not see disadvantages, there are only chances and development opportunities. Within the Kingdom we tend to sometimes see each other as a burden. For over 150 years there have been disputes on financial issues, interference with each other’s internal affairs or incomprehension based on differences of culture and mentality. In my opinion this negative energy stems from mutual incomprehension. I don’t think this will ever completely disappear, but if we all realize that we speak at least three common languages in the Kingdom, we would be able to listen much better to one another. If we consequently make the step to our common interests: being economic growth, the wellbeing of all citizens in the Kingdom and the sustainable use of our natural resources, we could achieve a lot together”.
What are your wishes with regard to the Kingdom? “I would love to see us jointly conquering the world. By this I mean that we should make use of our people and knowledge as export products. By way of example I mention the team that won the Baseball World Championships two years ago. If you look at the composition of that team and its technical staff, you have to recognize that together we can achieve a lot with our Kingdom relationships. My ultimate goal is to make everyone see that it is actually profitable to invest in education and research. If we shift the focus of the so called hub-function of the Caribbean parts of the Kingdom,
from the trade in goods to the export of knowledge, as a Trans-Atlantic Kingdom we can distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world. The opportunities are endless. Build infrastructures that attract students, scholars, innovative young entrepreneurs and investors from all over the world. Sharing knowledge is the key”.
What is your contribution as a human being and as a pro-fessional to the Kingdom?“I’m constantly seeking connections between different people and ideas. Opportunities arise in the heads of human beings, all they need to do is just intercept them. As a professional I try to share, to inform and to look for common grounds when it comes to cooperation within the Kingdom. I’m an advocate for laying down clear agreements, delivering on those agreements and dealing respectfully with one another. I hope to make a positive contribution to the future of the Kingdom by placing the emphasis on the chances that we have at our disposal to jointly create a sound prosperous future. This might sound idealistic, but it is more practical than it might appear to be the case at first sight. All one has to do is keep your eyes, ears and mind open....”.
“As a Trans-Atlantic Kingdom we can
distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world”.
Full names: Gregory Aubrich Haëzer Bakhuis.Date and place of birth: Apeldoorn (the Netherlands), 28 October 1981.Position: PhD Candidate at the Erasmus University Rotterdam.
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As of December 2014 the Charter for
the Kingdom of the Netherlands has
existed for 60 years. How did this
affect you?
“I honestly have to say that I wasn’t
aware of this. I received an invitation to
participate in a respective celebration
which I humbly accepted. The
foundation I represent, however,
epitomizes our Kingdom. ProFor stands
for ‘Bureau of Community Development
within the Dutch Kingdom’. The
foundation has been operating since
1994 from the borough of Amsterdam-
Zuidoost. 173 different cultures living
in a small area leads to enrichment
but also to challenges. Through
theater, training, workshops and
coaching, ProFor remains in contact
with hundreds of people on a yearly
basis. Our focus is on those segments
where there is little interaction with
society and where there is talk of
large backlogs. We reach our goals by
working with contributors who have
been in similar situations but who have
caught up in this context. These people
serve as bridges between their own
ethnic group and Dutch society and as
a result bring both parties together”.
What does our Kingdom mean to
you?
“To me the Kingdom is an institute
which is very rich in history and
information. This brings me back to
my childhood. In school one had
to learn about history of the (then)
Netherlands Antilles and Aruba –
Suriname did also make part of this
autonomous country. The Dutch
Kingdom has had black periods –
slavery is an infamous example of this.
While walking along the Amsterdam
canals one can still sense this”.
What are the benefits of our
Kingdom in your opinion?
“To me the Kingdom represents several
communities and their respective
religions living peacefully side by side”.
Are there disadvantages to being
part of a Kingdom in your opinion?
“The fact that many youngsters,
both in the Netherlands as in the
Caribbean parts of the Kingdom, know
so little of this constellation is pitiful.
This shall be incorporated in a more
predominant way in history lessons”.
What are your wishes with regard to
the Kingdom?
“Many things have changed in the
Kingdom in the past 60 years. In 1975
Suriname became an independent
republic, in 1986 Aruba seceded
from the Netherlands Antilles and
in 2010 the Netherlands Antilles
was dissolved. It is of utmost
importance, however, to remain
united as we are still one Kingdom”.
What is your contribution as a
human being and as a professional
to our Kingdom?
“Approximately 2 years ago the
Dutch government introduced a
law which makes care based on
ethnicity redundant. Regardless
of all these budget, ProFor is still
one of the few organizations in the
Netherlands still operating effectively
for the benefit of all Dutchmen with
a Caribbean background. Though I
say so myself, this is something to
be applauded and we will continue
our efforts to help our Caribbean
countrymen who are in need! ”.
Full names: Lucia Elizabeth Martis.Date and place of birth: Curaçao, 12 August 1956.Position: Founder ProFor Foundation.
“To me the Kingdom represents several communities and their respective religions living peacefully side by side”
“It is of utmost importance to remain united as we are still part of one Kingdom”.
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As of December 2014 the
Charter for the Kingdom of the
Netherlands has existed for 60
year. How did this affect you?
“I was indirectly affected by this.
Previously I was employed as a policy
advisor by the Police Force in
Rotterdam. In this function I was
entrusted with the portfolio concerning
Caribbean Dutchman in Rotterdam.
Due to the large influx of inhabitants in
this city originating from the Caribbean
part of the Kingdom, the local police
force has appointed community police
officers that can identify themselves
with this target group – i.e. knowledge
and understanding of the local
language and culture amongst other
things. In my capacity as a member of
the monitoring committee of the
Ministry of Security and Justice I had
access to the evaluation study of the
equipment of the police force on the
islands of Bonaire, Statia and Saba. Both
functions have interfaces with the
Kingdom as I was working for the
benefit of all inhabitants of the
Kingdom. The Charter is the all-
important manuscript that exemplifies
the unity of the Kingdom – the basis of
everything”.
What does our Kingdom mean
to you?
“To me the Kingdom stands for
unconditional respect regardless of the
size of a nation, skin-color or language.
Respect is of utmost importance within
the Kingdom as every single person is a
citizen of the Kingdom”.
What are the benefits of our
Kingdom in your opinion?
“In my opinion, benefits are obtained
when everyone benefits. There are
plenty of wholesome benefits. On
the one hand the Caribbean part
of the Kingdom is a springboard to
Latin America – on the other hand
the Netherlands is a springboard to
Europe. In this light, we can benefit
from each other in the area of sport,
science, technology and culture”.
Are there disadvantages to being
part of the Kingdom in your opinion?
“In my opinion there is one very large
disadvantage: the large geographical
distance between our countries. It’s
particularly unfortunate that this
distance is also found back in our
systems – we don’t know each other”.
What are your wishes with regard to
the Kingdom?
“I have several wishes. Firstly I wish
for the inhabitants of our countries
to start respecting one another.
Respect starts by getting to know
each other. How wonderful would it
be if Papiamentu could be taught at
schools in the Netherlands and that
pupils, by means of excursions, could
get to know the many countries within
the Kingdom. How nice would it be
if King Willem-Alexander could start
addressing himself to all his ‘subjects’
in the official 4 languages of the
Kingdom. In addition to this, my wish is
that inhabitants of the Kingdom could
start moving easily and most of all in
a cheaper way within the Kingdom”.
What is your contribution as a
human being and as a professional
to the Kingdom?
“By talking about the matter I
contribute to the notion which is to
safeguard the fact we should all make
sure that it remains pleasant to live
in our Kingdom. As a professional
I strive to get into several ancillary
positions in order to contribute to the
Kingdom – considering my background
I believe that in these positions I
can make a better difference”.
“Respect starts by getting to know each other”
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Full names: Johan Frederik Willem Oldenboom.
Date and place of birth: Curaçao, 20 January 1981.
Position: Scientific staff member and lecturer at
the University of Curaçao (UoC).
“The Charter is the all-important manuscript that exemplifies the unity of the Kingdom –
the basis of everything”.
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As of December 2014 the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands has existed for 60 years. How did this affect you?
“Because of this interview I started reading up on this
subject. One of the objectives of the Charter is equality
within the Kingdom. Based on what I have seen, heard
and experienced in my life I sadly have to conclude that
this is not the case. I give you the following example:
My late father, George J. van Petersen, a Dutchman by birth,
was able to choose in the 50’s to serve as in the military in
the Dutch East Indies or the Dutch West Indies. I’m pleased
that he chose the West Indies and that he eventually
ended up in Curaçao. My father worked in the military at
the government palace. This is where he met my mother
who was working as a civil servant here. They fell in love
and wanted to get married. Consequently everything was
triggered from above to boycott this relationship. Even
so, my parents got married and remained happily married
for 54 years until the death of my father. My father got
a job at Royal Dutch Shell. In this function he was told
by his countrymen that, as he was married to a woman
of color, he could not get a bonus or premium…
Despite all of this we were brought up with a love for
the island and for our fellow Curaçaoans. My father fell
in love with the island and the inhabitants the moment
he arrived here. He spoke the language fluently and he
instilled his love for the island to us. I was taught to go
to the local shops to support the ‘ordinary’ businessman
and to reach out to those in need. Still I sometimes
wonder what the motives of the people who tried to
frustrate the marriage between my parents could have
been and why my father was not given a promotion in
his job just for being married to a black woman”…
What does our Kingdom mean to you?
“To me the Kingdom is its people. My focus is on
the youngsters in the Kingdom – that is youngsters
that are in need. Based on my upbringing I get a
plenty of energy while helping people. Through
my foundation I’m devoted to this cause”.
Are there disadvantages to being part of a Kingdom in your opinion?
“Poor education. Through my foundation I come across
plenty of youngsters that have to make use of outdated
textbooks in Dutch, a language they logically do not grasp.
They are overloaded with homework which is drilled into
their systems. These kids get frustrated and appear to be
dumb. I have got news: no child is dumb. Place any Dutch
child in Curaçao and make them take a lesson in Papiamentu.
It is likely that they will face difficulty, but this is irrespective of
their level of intelligence. When it comes to similar situations
I question the vision of equality in the Kingdom….”.
What is your contribution as a human being and as a professional to the Kingdom?
“Our foundation works with passionate people that work
with a purpose in mind and in a preventive way. Our
priorities are amongst others: reading, communication,
character building, self-confidence and restoration and
amplification of family relationships. We are constantly
looking for renewal and to get the best out of the youngsters.
It is a big challenge to find the funds and people who
are similarly passionate and committed to improve the
chances of these youngsters and of everyone in their close
surroundings. We will proceed with our action as long as
this is possible. Personally I’m currently following a study
in didactics and pedagogy in order to develop myself and
mostly to acquire more skills in order to support these
youngsters. This is my contribution to the Kingdom….”.
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“To me the Kingdom is its people”
Full names: Gerritdina Marie van Petersen.Date and place of birth: Curaçao, 11 March 1958.Position: Founder Foundation F.E.L.I.S. Curaçao.
“Poor education makes me question the vision of equality in the
Kingdom….”
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As of December 2014 the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands has existed for 60 years. How did this affect you?“In my field of study, I’m obliged to know rather a lot about the Charter. For over 60 years we have been in partnership with the Netherlands and others countries within the Kingdom. I believe that this is a very special relationship. I was born in Venezuela, but I can barely recall my years in Venezuela. When I was 1 year old my mother made the decision to emigrate to Curaçao. My family is half Venezuelan and half Curaçaoan. I may have been born in Venezuela, but I’m a true “Yu di Kòrsou!”
What does our Kingdom mean to you?“Unity and working together is important wherever you go. The Kingdom of the Netherlands is an example of this. Every country has its own sovereignty and culture but we are still one… I sometimes have my doubts as to whether we are united. We might be living in 4 different countries but we should not forget that we all have the same passport. I always compare the Kingdom with a supranational organization. You have a central government entrusted with the Kingdom and you have several countries in this constellation. The opportunities as a Dutchman are endless, that’s why I have chosen to study in the Netherlands in order to develop myself and to eventually return to Curaçao to contribute to the development of my nation”.
What are the benefits of our Kingdom in your opinion?“The benefits are that we are able to work together, that we have a parliamentary system and that we have the opportunity to choose our representatives directly and via a democratic system of rules. Matters such as division of power, independent judges and fundamental rights are also of the utmost importance. In addition to this one has free access to the rest of the European Union. In other words, many benefits and possibilities for growth within the Kingdom”.
What are the disadvantages of being part of a Kingdom in your opinion?“Cultural differences may lead to misunderstandings in decision making. Many people in the Netherlands are of the opinion that Curaçaoans are lazy. It’s not better or worse, it’s
just different. It is unfair to implicitly use the term Curaçaoans when referring to negative situations and to use the term Dutchman while talking about positive situations. Aren’t we all Dutchman? It is important for us to realize that positive discrimination is discrimination as well. We should learn to embrace the various differences that exist in the Kingdom”.
What are your wishes with regard to the Kingdom? “My wishes with regard to the Kingdom is good cooperation. We should consider the fact that our Kingdom consists of several cultures. Every nation should evaluate itself and try to come up with a solution to improve on our relationships. This doesn’t mean that there are many things going wrong, but there is surely room for improvement. I’m of the opinion that, regardless of having a freedom of expression, we should rule out discriminatory expressions. When we realize that discrimination is harmful for the relations within the Kingdom, scope will be created for positive cooperation. Debate stimulates positivism but insults are counterproductive”.
What is your contribution as a human be-ing and as a professional to the Kingdom?“As a young professional I would like to improve on the cooperation between the various countries in the Kingdom. I was born in Venezuela but raised in Curaçao. People like to categorize and stereotype, but to make a difference one should have a strong foundation on which to stand to uphold one´s rights. This is difficult but not impossible. That’s the way things should be: one Kingdom and one Charter”.
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“Every country has its own sovereignty and culture
but we are still one…”
Full names: Alfredo ‘Aldjo’ Jose Rodriguez Cordero.Date and place of birth: Valencia (Venezuela), 28 December 1991.Position: Student (Bachelor of Social Legal Services) at the InHolland University in Rotterdam.
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