Motivational Interviewing Gary U. Behrman, PhD, MSW, M.Div., LCSW 111 Prospect Ave. Suite 201 D Kirkwood, MO 63122 [email protected] 314 456 1017
Motivational Interviewing
Gary U. Behrman, PhD, MSW, M.Div., LCSW111 Prospect Ave. Suite 201 D
Kirkwood, MO [email protected]
314 456 1017
Fenelon: Spiritual Letters“Speak little, listen much. Think far more of
understanding hearts and of adapting yourself to their needs than of saying clever things to them. Show that you have an open mind and let everyone see by experience that there is safety and consolation in opening their story to you. Avoid extreme severity, and reprove, when necessary, with caution and gentleness. Never say more than what is needed but let whatever you say be said with entire frankness and kindness.”
•http://housechurch.org/spirituality/fenelon_letters.html
OBJECTIVESParticipants will Apply knowledge of the bio-psycho-social-
spiritual motivational model Observe the impact of cultural differences
when applying skills Practice motivational skills with variety of
clients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1EG_4IBzbA
What is your most valuable tool to motivate clients?
BUILDING RAPPORT
The most important tool for helping a client thru crisis is the “Strategic Use of Self
NOT: Do you care for this person?BUT: Why do you care?
“Are you motivated for change?”
How will you measure this?Will you give the client space to define
this?
Definition of Motivational Interviewing
‘A directive, patient-centered counseling style for eliciting behavior change by helping patients to explore and resolve ambivalence.’ (Rollnick and Miller, 1995)
Patients may be hesitant to trust us We need to demonstrate our knowledge,
skills, kindness & empathy
Motivational Interviewing Evidence based: what are the facts?
Directive: you are a source of authority
Client Centered: client is also source of authority
Culturally Sensitive: what are the barriers facing this client?
6 Principles of Motivational Interviewing
Don’t tell clients what to do Listen Let the client tell you what she needs to
do to change Cognitive dissonance: what she knows she
must do & what she is hesitant to try Instill confidence Ambivalence is normal and needs to be
discussed
Motivational InterviewingThe practice to adopt when giving any piece
of information to the client is to: 1. Understand what the client already
knows, and what they would like to know, by asking him/her
2. Provide information in as clear a way as possible that is culturally sensitive
3. Check client’s understanding of what you have just said - “repeat to me the information I just provided”
5 A’s Protocol Address the issue: name the problem Assess the Problem: identify strengths &
barriers Advise the Client: educating client Assist the Client: create care plan w/
measureable goals Arrange for f/u: review progress
Motivating Clients “I’m finding that when I begin each session by asking my
clients how they are doing and how they are handling stressors in their lives, I see an enormous improvement in therapy results” Social Work Student
How do we motivate clients to follow tx. plans?• Patient must have a desire to achieve goals• Must claim ownership of tx. plan• Have resources to follow tx. plan• The tx plan must be meaningful to client• The client must have a reason to be healthy
Change Plan Worksheet
The changes I want to make are: The reasons why I want to make these
changes are: The steps I plan to take in changing are: The ways other people can help me are: I will know that my plan is working if: Some things that could interfere with my
plan are: What I will do if the plan isn’t working: http://www.motivationalinterviewing.org/sites/default/files/changeplan
Communication Techniques Generate a list of possibilities with client
(You may add some suggestions, such as what other clients have tried)
Encourage client to evaluate the list
Client picks best option that is empirically sound and supported by best practices
Communication Approaches Get a conversation going - express
empathy through reflective listening
Develop discrepancy between clients' goals or values and their current behavior
Avoid argument & confrontation & adjust to resistance rather than opposing directly
Sample Questions
“So, are you saying that you’re thinking of changing soon, what may be stopping you today?
“Are you saying that this is not the best time for you to make these health changes? Why?”
What is motivating you to change your behavior?
Avoid Questions w/ Binary Responses
“Would you like to quit smoking pot?”rather “What might be the benefits if you quit
smoking pot?” “What are the benefits of continuing
smoking pot?”
Using Scales 1 = not at all 10= immensely “On a scale of 1 to 10, how important is it
for you to follow this care plan? “How confident are you that you can stay
the course?”
“Why did you answer this way?” “Where do you expect yourself to be on
this scale in 1 week? 1 month? 1 year?”
Open Ended QuestionsBIO: “Where do you experience the most pain?”PSYCHO: “What do you worry most about regarding
your situation?”SOCIAL: “Who are your main support systems?”SPIRITUAL: “What should I be aware of regarding your
religious or spiritual beliefs?”
Motivating Phrases “This is important. Please tell me more.” “I care about you and your family. Tell me
how I can help you with your care plan.” “You are very courageous to be facing
this. But you don’t have to face this alone” “You’ve accomplished a lot in a short time.
I am proud of you and privileged to be your P.A.”
“I can understand why you stopped taking your meds.”
Helping Client Own the Tx Plan
Problem recognition: “What can you do to help your recovery? “What can I do?” “What can others do?”
Values Clarification: “What is most important to you at this time?” “How has this changed during past year?”
Recommended Questions1. Tell me about you and what is most important
in your life?2. How does your condition affect you (bio-
psycho-socially-spiritually?3. What about your situation troubles you most?4. How will you handle this? Do you have the
resources?5. “This will be very demanding of you, but I am
here to help.” This technique is identified by the acronym BATHE
(background, affect, trouble, handling & empathy).http://www.aafp.org/dam/AAFP/documents/medical_education_residency/fmig/tips_relationships.pdf
Closing the Conversation “Here is what is most important to
remember.” “Can you repeat what I just said about
your care plan?” “We covered a lot of ground today. Do you
have any more questions or concerns?” “I am emailing you resources for your care
plan and I want you to visit these sites.” “How do you want me to communicate
with you outside of our sessions?”
Role of Provider your job is to ensure that there is an
honest discussion about the consequences of changing and not changing behaviors that impact health outcomes• Importance of motivation• Instilling confidence• Motivating the client
to adhere to tx.
ComplianceThe degree to which clients follow a tx plan Five factors to adherence:
1. Client baseline health2. SES & available resources3. Type of therapy/intervention4. Resources/Insurance coverage5. Providers communicating w/ each
other
Keys to Compliance If clients believe they can ultimately
succeed in their efforts How clients judge their abilities which
affect their compliance Level of compliance is correlated w/ their
self identity How do we instill confidence with
resources?
RESISTENT CLIENT There is no such person as a RESISTANT
CLIENT Often, we are missing what is most
important to our client OR We think we know what is best for our
client
Identity Theory
To the degree that a client’s identity is threatened, this will be the degree of trauma
Identity What roles do I assume responsibility for? What is most meaningful to me? How do I identify myself?
• Mother, nurse, wife, daughter, Muslim? What do I believe about myself? Life?
Trauma Trauma happens when our primary
beliefs about life, self and others are shattered and disrupted.
We reconstruct our schemas, seeking either to restore or create new beliefs
Trauma How we respond to a crisis event
depends upon our belief system• Consonance = Information and
experience matches our schema (beliefs)
• Dissonance = When we experience a crisis event and receive information that does not match our beliefs and we cannot make sense out of it
Assimilating & Accommodating
Assimilating the event: twisting the experience and the information to fit my schema (beliefs); distorting the event to fit my beliefs
Accommodating the event: try to create a new schema (belief system) to make meaning out of the experience
Dissonance Dissonance takes the form of dis-ease:
• Bio-somatic: physical ailments, (migraines, backaches, gastro-intestinal, cardiac disease)
• Psychological: anxiety attacks, depression; developmental digression
• Social: isolation, destructive and harmful behavior towards others
• Spiritual: lack of purpose and meaning with previous fulfilling roles, substance abuse & addictions
Strengths Based Approach
Identify and optimize client’s strengths What’s working for him/her today? Emphasize capacity building Take note of how he/she interacts with his/her
environment
Avoid looking only for what is wrong
Strengths-based definition:“All people must be seen in light of their capacities, talents, competencies, possibilities, vision, values and hope, however dashed and distorted these may have become through circumstance, oppression or trauma” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oag1Dfa1e_E
Looking into Client Hx.for Strengths
“What difficult goals have you achieved in the past?”
“What helped you get through this?”
“What might you draw upon at this time in your life that worked in the past?”
Client Resistancekey principles behind rolling with resistance
are: Don’t respond to resistance with
confrontation - no matter how frustrated you are!
Use empathy and reflective listening Reframe statements Acknowledge ambivalence as normal
Risk Factors Hx. of mental illness Substance abuse Poverty & lack of insurance Low social capital Lack of transportation
PROTECTIVE FACTORS:
Helping client achieve desired goals by modifying the environment
Gaining personal control by maximizing internal strengths
PIE
Which environment is HEALTHY for my client?
Asking or expecting a squirrel to excel in water does not produce great results
Partnering in Care
How do we motivate for change?How much change is Healthy?
Which environment builds Strengths?
Building Partnerships
From Care-Giving to Partnering in Care • Focusing & building on Strengths in your
client• Framing partnering as collaborating with
many sources of Strengths in his/her Environment
• Building relationships with family, teachers, work, coaches, pastors, classmates
Partnering in Care
• We cannot motivate alone• If we are lucky, we see our client for 50
minutes a week• Thus partnering in care is crucial• Providing Resources to build Strengths in
his/her Environment helps to motivate
Partnering in Care
Partnering in care is essential As partnering increases, motivation
increases As motivation increases, health increases
Creating Barriers w/ Client
Barriers:• Not relinquishing some power in the
relationship• Always knowing what is best for client• Not providing opportunities for client to
participate in tx. plan• Superficial assessment of client’s
emotional, social, spiritual contexts• Ignoring cultural differences
Enhancing Collaboration• Define client role and your role,• Acknowledge what client knows about
the problem & solution,• Identify client values & health habits• Surface resources to achieve goals• Create tx. plan with client
Remember:
This is a strength’s approach, not just fixing a problem
Be aware of our assumptions about healing and client’s capacity for change
We are NOT fixing their problems but assisting them in creating new meaning
Search for new ways to carry their trauma
Remember:
Motivation is a strength’s approach, not just fixing a problem
Be aware of our assumptions about healing and client’s capacity for change
We are NOT fixing their problems but assisting them in creating new meaning
Search for new ways to carry their trauma
How do we measure motivation?
That they listened to us?That they achieved their goals?Think about it…
Strategic Use of Self • How much to disclose about your own
hx of trauma• How to express genuine care• How to comfort & ease the pain thru
emotional cues• How to connect with client in meaningful
ways
Motivational Interviewing https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=motivational+inter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3MCJZ7OGRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjZ0KbJcav0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skj-ALA1HFE
Role Play
Get in pairs of four Assign client & practitioner & observers Read scenarios Perform role play Observers give feedback –
• what went well; • what could be done differently?
Reflection
Client:What did practitioner do well?
Practitioner:What did you find challenging?What do you need to work on?
Everyone:How do you see the motivational approach working with your clients?
RESOURCES
Helpful Websites
Motivational interviewing• http://www.motivationalinterview.org/
Case Western U. Center for Evidence Based Practices• http://www.centerforebp.case.edu/practices/mi
You Tube• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3MCJZ7OGRk
Guide to Motivational Interviewing
http://www.psychmap.org/uploads/Motivational%20Interviewing%20brief%20guide.pdf
Research indicates that 30%–50% of patients do not follow treatment plan
How do we understand actual and perceived obstacles?
Respect the dignity and autonomy of each client
How do we LISTEN to our clients?
Therapist AID Tools
Valuable Resources for treating trauma in adolescents Worksheets, interactive tools, interventions
• http://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-worksheet/thought-record/depression/adolescents
RESOURCES FOR MOTIVATION
Resilience Tools http://valueoptionsmarketing.com/resilience/site/tools/
Bounce Resiliencehttps://www.bounce-resilience-tools.eu/en
Roads to Resilience http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/road-resilience.aspx
Build Resiliencehttps://www.informationvine.com/index?qsrc=999&qo=semQuery&ad=semD&o=603071&l=sem&askid=eebb7a7d-6b12-4b75-a285-4568bef4870c-0-iv_gsb&q=build%20resilience&dqi=&am=broad&an=google_s
Complementary Approaches
NATIONAL CENTER for COMPLEMENTARY & INTEGRATIVE HEALTH
https://nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/depression
MeditationModerate evidence suggests that meditation is useful for symptoms of anxiety and depression.
https://nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/meditation-science
MOBILE APPS for Meditation http://mindfulnessforteens.com/resources/
Music & Aromatherapy https://www.adaa.org/finding-help/treatment/complementary-
alternative-treatment
Medications Before recommending medication, we
must determine the presence of any physical symptoms that may be related to medical problems.
APP for medications for social workers https://online.epocrates.com/drugs
APPS for Mental Health https://www.adaa.org/finding-help/mobile-apps http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/top-10-mental-health-
apps/slideshow/2608/ http://www.refinery29.com/mental-health-apps http://blog.capterra.com/10-best-mental-health-apps-medical-
professionals/
Treating DepressionBest Practices CBT, DBT, IPT http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/adhd/treating-adolescent-
depression-psychotherapy-three-ts
Evidence based outcomes for CBT https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1540388/
Worksheets for treating depression http://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-
worksheets/depression/adolescents
Depression treatment options https://www.uptodate.com/contents/depression-treatment-
options-for-children-and-adolescents-beyond-the-basics http://effectivechildtherapy.fiu.edu/
WEBSITES https://motivationalinterviewing.org/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/motivational-interviewing
https://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-guide/motivational-interviewing
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=motivational+interviewing&hvadid=77996716818570&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_xvanr2vny_e