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Page 1: Chimney Fundamentals And Operation The Art of Venting Flue Gases Or How Not To Kill Your Client Presenter: Earl Hicks.

Chimney FundamentalsAnd Operation

The Art of Venting Flue GasesOrHow Not To Kill Your Client

Presenter: Earl Hicks

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Objectives Review New York WAP policy regarding venting

systems BPI Standards Review combustion process Define & understand combustion air How does a vent system work Identify venting categories and materials Using venting rules-of-thumb Inspection of existing flues Alternative venting methods

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NYS WAP Policy

Ensure safe elimination of flue gases from the building

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BPI StandardsBuilding Performance Building Performance InstituteInstitute

Any combustion appliance chimney/vent system that is in use must be visually evaluated for defects

A deteriorated chimney should be repaired or relined and causes corrected before reusing.

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Principles Of Combustion

Three essential components for combustion Fuel Oxygen Heat

Fuel – Fossil fuels Oxygen – Air is 20.9% O2

Heat – Pilot, spark, or igniter

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Combustion Principles

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The Chemical Reaction

CH4 + 4O2 + heat = CO2 + 2H2O + heat Complete combustion Natural gas

1 Cu Ft of CH4 + 10 Cu Ft of air for complete combustion

11 Cu Ft of flue gases

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Combustion Air

Must supply sufficient air for complete combustion when all appliances are in operation simultaneously.

Must determine whether CAZ is a confined or unconfined space per NFPA.

Tightening a dwelling too much may result in the need to bring in outside air for combustion regardless of NFPA classification.

Must follow established standards for bringing in combustion air.

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Confined / Unconfined

Confined Space Not enough air in the combustion appliance

zone to provide for complete combustion when all appliances are operating and the building is set in worst case criteria.

Unconfined Space Enough air is present to provide for

complete combustion when all combustion appliances are operating and the house is set for worst case criteria.

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Standard 1/20 Rule

Measure the volume of the CAZ. Add all input Btu ratings of appliance in the CAZ. If dryer is in CAZ

Electric – consider input rate of 100,000 Gas – consider input rate of 125,000

Divide this total Btu by 20. The resulting number is the Cu. Ft. separating

confined from unconfined space. Volume of CAZ below result = confined space Volume of CAZ above result = unconfined space

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Example

CAZ = 10’L X 14’W X 8’H Appliances• Gas furnace – 75,000 Btu input• Hot water heater – 40,000 Btu input• Gas dryer - 125,000 Btu input

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Solution

CAZ = 10’L X 14’W X 8’H Volume = 1120 Cu’

Total appliance input Btu 240,000 Btu

1/20 240,000 ÷ 20 = 12,000 cu ft. Actual volume is below 12,000 cu ft CAZ is a confined space

Results: Additional combustion air must be brought into the CAZ

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Other Than Standard:

IMPORTANT! The above standard is based on a known infiltration rate of less than .4 air changes per hour

When the ACH is known For appliances other than fan-assisted,

consult NFPA 54 8.3.2.2(1) For fan-assisted appliances, consult

NFPA 54 8.3.2.2(2)

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Table9.3.2.2(a)NaturalDraftAppliances

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Table 9.3.2.2(b)Fan Assisted Appliances

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Methods of Bringing In Combustion Air

Within the dwelling, from other zones Ducted in horizontally from OD Directly from OD above and or below

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What is Draft

Negative pressure within a flue that pulls products of combustion out from the dwelling.

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Factors That Affect Draft Pressure

Delta T, Indoors to Outdoors Height of Vent Interior Volume Restrictions Atmospheric Conditions Pressure Imbalances in the CAZ

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How Does A VentingSystem Work?

Combustion Gases

Air Flow

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What is Considered Adequate Draft?

OD temp >800F, >-1 Pa or - .005”WC OD temp 300 – 800F, >-2.5 Pa or -.01”WC OD temp below 300F, >-5 Pa or -.02”WC

(250 pascal = 1”W.C.)

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Most Common Poor Draft Factors Found in the Field

Return air leaks in the basement Long horizontal vent connectors Blocked vents

Deteriorated flue Bird nests

Outside masonry flues with fan assisted heating appliances

Fireplaces with no outside combustion air and without front enclosures.

Overly tight houses

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VENTING CATEGORIES

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Venting Categories

NFPA 54 and 58 criteria Standardized

Category I• Negative pressure, non-

condensing Category II

• Negative Pressure, condensing• No longer produced

Category III• Positive pressure, non-condensing

Category IV• Positive pressure, condensing

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Non-

Condensing

Condensing

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Category I

What we normally think of when we think chimney

Negative pressure sucks products of combustion from the appliance breech and deposits them outdoors

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Category II

No longer manufactured Negative pressure vent with combustion

gases at or below the dew point Heavy gases at the dew point are not buoyant

enough to vent with a negative pressure flue

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Category III Direct sidewall vented without additional

apparatus. Positive pressure requires joints in flue material

to be sealed Because these 80% appliance flue gases are

close to the dew point, and the vent material is single wall, corrosion resistant materials must be used

Drains are typically incorporated to remove flue condensation before it enters the heat exchanger

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Category III

Has been used to solve installation problems where no appropriate flue is available

Positive pressure requires joints in flue material to be sealed

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Category IV Positive pressure condensing

appliances, joints must be sealed 90%+ AFUE Appliances are designed to dispose

of flue condensate as well as condensate formed within the secondary heat exchanger

May be able to sidewall vent at reduced distances to openings in the building than NFPA suggests Sealed combustion Combustion air intake in same pressure

plane

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Category I Vent MaterialsFound With Older Heating Appliances

Category I Vent MaterialsFound With Older Heating Appliances

Single wall galvanized pipe, 26 gauge Only as a connector on 70% AFUE and

lower gas appliances and all oil appliances Connector for oil appliances

Masonry Vitreous clay liner Oil appliances

Transite Rated as single wall Asbestos Does not meet any venting requirements

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“B” Vent – double wall Galvanized steel outside, aluminum

inner pipe Rated only for gas appliances Used as a vent connector for all 78%

and 80% AFUE appliances May not be run outside of the building Used as a liner in an existing flue chase

Category I Vent Materials

cont.

Category I Vent Materials

cont.

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Flexible liner Aluminum – gas appliances Stainless Steel – gas and oil appliances Used to retrofit existing flue passages to meet code or a

specific application “L” Vent – double wall

Inner and outer pipes are stainless steel Oil appliances

All Fuel, double wall insulated Oil Solid Fuels

Category I Vent Materials

cont.

Category I Vent Materials

cont.

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Category III Flue Materials

Aluminum No longer recommended because of corrosion problems

Stainless Steel Use type specified by manufacturers to reduce corrosion

issues High temperature plastic

Was the most common material specified by manufacturers Have been involved in recall Manufacturer specific installation protocol

• Sealed joints, High temperature sealant• Hanger spacing• Pitch back to appliance ¼” per Ft.

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Category IV Flue Materials

PVC Low cost Sealed joints Must be provided with

adequate hanging support Pitch – back to appliance ¼”

per Ft. CPVC

Higher operating temperatures than PVC

Follow manufacturer instructions Manufacturer specific Sealed Joints

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Water In The Flue

Water is a byproduct of combustion Key for category I appliances is to

maintain water in a gaseous state within the flue so that it exits to the outdoors.

Category IV appliances are engineered to remove liquid water from within the secondary heat exchanger and flue.

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• 93#(lbs) ~ 10 gallons

•Million Btu = 100,000 Btu @ 10 Hrs run time

•10 Hr run time for natural gas = 10 gallons of water that must be removed from the flue.

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70% AFUE Gas Furnace Overview

21 Cu Ft flue gases for every 1 Cu Ft of natural gas burned Draft diverter mixes the extra ~10 Cu Ft of air

with the flue gases before entering the flue Reduced efficiency means more heat going

up the chimney, hot flue gases (4500 – 6000F) Dilution gases reduce the relative humidity

and increases the dew point

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Draft Hood Appliances

1 Cu Ft CH4 + 10 Cu Ft air + 10 Cu Ft of dilution air mixed at draft hood

21 Cu Ft of flue gases up chimney under maximized conditions

Draft hood aids in minimizing

fluctuation of draft Prevents backdraft from

affecting burner

Spill Switch

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78% & 80% AFUE Furnace Venting Overview

Draft induced fan does not force flue gasses into the vent.

A category I flue of adequate design must be used

More heat in the building and less up the chimney yields a colder chimney

Cycle time is longer than older furnaces to adequately warm the flue and keep moisture in a gaseous state.

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TO WARM UP A CHIMNEY If firing rate = 100,000 Btu/hr and SSE = 75%, then 75,000

Btu/hr go to the distribution system and 25,000 Btu/hr go through the vent.

If the burner on-cycle is 12 minutes (.2 hrs), then during one cycle the vent receives: .2 hr x 25,000 Btu/hr = 5,000 Btu/cycle MASONRY CHIMNEY:A masonry chimney (block or brick + tile liner) requires about 4570 Btu/.ft. to go from 0o to 120o. So, on a very cold day, about one foot of chimney will be warmed in one burner cycle: 5,000 Btu/cycle @4,570Btu/ft = 1 ft/cycle TYPE B-VENT CHIMNEY:A 6" B-vent chimney requires about 90 Btu/.ft. to go from 0o to 120o. So,5,000 Btu/cycle @ 90Btu/ft = 55 ft/cycle

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After Weatherization with aNew Furnace:

If firing rate = 75,000 Btu/hr and SSE =82%, then 61,500 Btu/hr go to the distribution system and 13,500 Btu/hr go through the vent.

If the burner on-cycle is 6 minutes (.1hrs), then during one cycle the vent receives:

.1hr x 13,500 Btu/hr =1,350 Btu/cycle

EXISTING MASONRY CHIMNEY:

About four inches of the existing masonry chimney will be warmed during one burner cycle:

1,350 Btu/cycle @ 4,570Btu/ft = .3 ft/cycle

TYPE B-VENT CHIMNEY:

During each burner on cycle, enough heat to warm 15feet of B vent goes into the chimney:

1,350 Btu/cycle @ 90Btu/ft = 15 ft/cycle

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Draft Induced Category I Venting GuidelinesDraft Induced Category I Venting Guidelines

No exterior masonry chimneys without a properly sized metal liner. Flex or “B”

No interior masonry chimneys over 2 stories

No transite chimneys No unlined masonry chimneys No masonry chimneys unless common

vented with a draft hood type appliance without a vent damper

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Draft Induced Category I Venting Guidelines (cont.)

Must have double wall “B” vent connector Furnace must be properly sized Furnace must be set up correctly

Temperature rise Gas input Heat anticipator or cycle rate set @ 3 cycles per hour

Vent sizing should be in accordance with tables supplied with the furnace or NFPA

When sidewall venting a power vent kit must be used unless the manufacturer specifies otherwise.

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New Category I Venting Rules-Of-Thumb

Use “B” vent as connector from the appliance to the flue Reduce heat loss in the

connector Pitch connector down

toward appliance ¼” per Ft. Warm air rises

Maximum horizontal distance (Table 13.2.2) 1 ½ times the diameter of

the connector in feet 4” connector = 6’

maximum horizontal distance

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Rule-Of-Thumb Continued

Follow NFPA 54 sizing charts Never used unlined masonry flue Don’t use outside masonry flue Never use Transite If you take the heating appliance out of the

flue and leave the water heater in, you are responsible to ensure the water heater will vent properly Line the flue

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Oil Appliance Venting

NFPA 31 sizing guidelines Masonry Type “L”

stainless steel All fuel

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What We Should See In The Field

“L” Vent“L” Vent

“B” Vent“B” Vent

Outside MasonryOutside Masonry

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Barometric damper (“swinging door”) in an oil-fired warm air furnace vent.

Drill test hole between the breech and the barometric damper

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Why The Fuss About Venting Fan Assisted Gas Appliances?

11 Cu Ft flue gas for every 1 Cu Ft natural gas (Vs. 21 Cu Ft for 70% AFUE)

Lower flue gas temperatures, (3500F)

No dilution air (no draft hood) so gases are close to the dew point

Water must stay in gaseous state to be removed from the building KEEP FLUE GAS AS WARM AS

POSSIBLE

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Tools & Equipment Used for Vent Inspection & Sizing

NFPA manual 54, Natural Gas 58, LP Gas 31, Oil 211, Solid Fuels

Tape measure Flashlight Mirror Combustion

Analyzer Pressure Probe Temperature Probe

Boroscope Digital Cameral

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Safety Inspection of the Venting System

Inside visual inspection General Safety Inspection Vent connections Internal flue inspection

Outside visual inspection CAZ Test

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Flue Safety Flue Safety Clearance to combustibles

6” single wall pipe, gas 9” single wall pipe, oil 1” “B” vent, gas Single wall connectors must

not pass through walls. Spill switches Flue blockage Condition of flue materials Draft under worst case

conditions

Combustible?

Fire stop?

1” Clearance?

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Vent Connections

Corrosion

Pitch

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Inspecting An Existing Application

Remove vent connector Inspect with mirror & light

Is the vent straight or is there an offset Is there a liner present Are tiles cracked allowing flue gas to escape Blockage

Examine termination from outside Cap Condition of flue

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An appliance that produces soot is a cause for concern.

Auditor should call for clean and service.

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Evidence of backdrafting

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Unsafe vent

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Check the chimney for accumulated debris.

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Oil-fired boiler before cleaning – plugged with soot after several years without service.

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Same boiler after cleaning

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TransiteTransite

Connector

Must be Supported at Base

Must be Supported at Base

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Termination Failure

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B-vent exposed to the outdoors & not properly supported

Does not meet code (13.2.20) Sizing tables 13.6

through 13.10 are not to be used for “B” vent exposed to the outdoors below the roofline.

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Condensation bleed through

Draft assisted furnace, or only water heater left in flue?

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Condensation Damage

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CAZ Test Place building in winter mode Place all combustion appliances in pilot mode, or

turn off Energize all exhaust fans Measure pressure difference between CAZ in

relation to outdoors Open and close interior doors until the worst case draft

condition is reached Must have draft to continue

OD temp >800F, >-1 Pa or - .005”WC OD temp 300 – 800F, >-2.5 Pa or -.01”WC OD temp below 300F, >-5 Pa or -.02”WC

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Vent Dampers

Used to reduce off cycle losses

Motorized End switch safety

Thermal

Spill Switch

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Thermal Vent DamperThermal Vent Damper

Bimetal petals warp open when heated

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Vent Terminations Follow

manufacturer instructions

Use NFPA guidelines if manufacturer instructions are not available

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Category I Chimney termination:

A chimney shall extend at least 3 ft. above the highest point where it passes through a roof of a building and at least 2 ft. higher than any portion of a building within a horizontal distance of 10 ft.

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Sealed Combustion

Category IV

Sealed Combustion

Category IV

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Concentric Vent Category IVConcentric Vent Category IV

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Alternative Venting

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Look for conditions that may affect health or safety of the occupants, the weatherization crew, and YOU.

Dangerous vent, fire hazards, CO, fuel leaks, etc.

Complete a Health and Safety Warning form if necessary.

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Scary, home-made distribution system

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REALLY scary homemade vent connector

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Sizing Category I Vents Use the appropriate NFPA manual

54 for Natural gas 58 for LP for Oil 211 for Solid fuels

Find the appropriate chart One or more appliances? “B” Vent or masonry? “B” Connector or single wall?

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Using NFPA Sizing Charts

Height of flue From top of tallest appliance to the top of the flue

termination Increasing the height increases the draw

Horizontal distance to flue Used with single appliance application Increased horizontal run decreases draw

Vertical connector height From the appliance breech to the point where flue gases

combine Used with multiple appliances

Elbows – Charts are listed with up to (2) 900 elbows in the vent

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Problem #1

Single draft assisted appliance

50,000 BTU input rate Total chimney height = 17’ Lateral distance = 3’ “B” vent and connector

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Problem #2

2 category I appliances 50,000 BTU fan assisted furnace• Connector rise = 2’

30,000 BTU water heater• Connector rise = 3’

“B” vent with “B” connectors Chimney height = 18’

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Flexible Flue Liner Follow manufacturer sizing

tables Use NFPA sizing tables, but

reduce capacity by 20% The masonry or original

flue is used as a chase for the liner If a liner is installed, the

remaining space around the liner can not be used to vent other appliances.

More than one liner may be installed in the masonry chase

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Other Liner Materials

“B” vent may be used as a liner Drop down an

inadequate or improperly sized flue

Original flue must be straight.

SS flexible liner

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1. The height of a chimney is identified as:2. If the chimney height falls between two

columns in the NFPA chart, do you round up or down?

3. For a single category I appliance installation, if the lateral distance falls between two value on the chart, do you round up or down?

4. Can you use NFPA charts to size a flexible chimney liner?

5. What is one advantage of using a flexible liner over “B” vent?

ReviewReview

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Vent Free Heaters

NYS WAP Policy Operational Requirements Oxygen Depletion Sensor

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NYS WAP Policy

WAP funds cannot be used to purchase or install any type of unvented or ventless combustion appliance including but not limited to unvented kerosene space heaters, unvented natural gas space heaters, unvented propane space heaters, unvented gas fireplaces, and unvented gas fireplace logs.

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IAQ / Health & Safety Tests

Unvented Space Heaters: Educate the client about the potential danger of CO and fire from unvented space heaters. Explain that significant amounts of combustion products including water vapor and CO2 are produced.

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Combustion Air

Must supply combustion air while operating Open window while operating Tucson instructions require defining the space as

confined / unconfined

Products of combustion remain in the conditioned space

Must provide some measure of safety for oxygen depletion

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Fresh Air Requirements

Tucson Heater

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Oxygen Depletion Sensor

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If You Take Away Nothing Else

KEEP THE WATER IN A GASEOUS STATE WHILE IN THE FLUE

Use “B”vent connectors on any new category I gas appliance installation

Most masonry chimney’s will need a liner Never leave a water heater in a flue alone

without ensuring it will vent