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ferari90 (m) Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense on: August 17, 2010, 10:24 PM

slowly IBB is beginning to make a whole lot of sense.Watched him on AITtoday and i was impressedIMO he is in for the good reasons

if you are with me say Yeaaa

if not say Nayyy

becomrich3

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #1 on: August 17, 2010, 10:31 PM

he cant beat fulani/hausa on thier home ground, it is impossible.

Another factor against IBB is that he is a gwari man, there is NO WAY, I say itagain NOWAY he would beat fulani/hausa on thier Home ground. IMPOSSIBLE.

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only by rigging is that possible. So if you hear he beat fulani/hausa in fulani/hausaland know they rigged that election.

IBB cant win Yorubaland too.This are the obstacle IBB would have in the election. I think he should have position

his son mohammed in niger state than try to come back. age is not on his side too.

IBB should support me to be president,

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ferari90 (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #2 on: August 17, 2010, 10:43 PM

1. Why do you wish to return to power?

It is not unusual for leaders to wish to return; it is common knowledge andcommon practice in democratic countries all over the world. My right to

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contest (to vote and be voted for) is guaranteed by the Constitution. I am freeto exercise this right. (it is simply not right for anybody to use his or herconstitutional right to deny me or abort my own constitutional and democraticright). I also have moral and social rights to contest any elections in thecountry local, state and national elections.

Over the years I have developed a stock of new ideas based on experience,knowledge and deep reflection on the state of the nation.

I am an advocate of new breed politics defined by agenda, program,leadership and mindset, and not necessarily by age.

As a tested hand with experience, grasp and national outreach to confront theimmense challenges facing the nation and to stabilise the ship of state.

I am a member of a political party; we are in a democracy for which I workedhard to build and sustain. No one can fault or doubt my experience; I claim agood level of hindsight, insight and foresight, even national outreach as well asdetermination to build on well known and documented achievements in thepast.

As a national figure to foster the bonds of national unity one of the criticalchallenges of the country.

From across the- country findings, an excellent pool of Nigerians believe inand trust that our knowledge, experience, personal profile and outreach areneeded to reposition and consolidate the countrys economy, social structuresand political processes.

Top2. Dele Giwas assassination

It is unfortunate that it happened, more so under our leadership at the time.However, the Supreme Court heard the case of Chief Gani Fawehinmiapplication to compel a trial of two officials of our administration. The twoofficials who were wrongly accused or suspected of involvement were nevercharged to court, any court for trial because of lack of evidence. IBB was onlyPresident at the time, and was never indicted personally; neither was anymember of his government One of those wrongly accused or suspected hasprovided written accounts of what happened published in a book which isavailable to the general public. A high ranking Police officer and and respectedcrime investigator (now retired) has published his own findings in a book alsoavailable to the general public. We gave full support to the investigation by theNigeria Police Force and other security agencies.Top3. Annulment of June 12 (1993) Election

It was an unfortunate event in our history. As President at the time I take full

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responsibility for the annulment. But I must say, with due moral, constitutionaland social responsibility that the decision was based on what in our estimationwas in the highest national interest. It bears lessons for me and for the nation.Top4. Structural Adjustment Programme and its consequence

This was a programme of fundamental economic and social reform. Thecountry was in a bad economic situation before we came in. Nigerians wouldrecall the traumatic experience of queueing for essential commodities(essence!). Just before the Second Republic was overthrown on December 31,1983, there were negotiations with the countrys major economic and tradingpartners on reopening credit lines which were blocked; these negotiations wereto be facilitated principally by reaching an agreement with IMF on a standbyarrangement on its loan facility and conditionality.

The regime that preceded mine which overthrew the Second Republiccontinued to try to improve the resources for national economic managementthrough various policies,, including more stringent budget measures; use ofcounter-trade arrangements (trade by barter), rearrangement of the countrysoverdue debt obligations and negotiations with the IMF; that regime eventuallydiscontinued the negotiations.The situation clearly posed an impasse for Nigeria as:

The countrys finances were in a parlous state;

Credit lines, essential for commerce and physical imports, remained blocked ascreditors were not ready to reopen them;

Imports from our trading partners (nations) were off cover by the officialexport credit agencies;

The country had lost its international credit worthiness;The country needed to embark upon contingent measures and policies such as:

Privatization and commercialization of public enterprises

Deregulation of banking and other financial institutions, aviation (airlines),telecommunications and broadcasting (radio and TV), etc;

Improved external debt management

Establishment of the National Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC) for thecontrol and oversight of banking and finance.

As with most reform policies of any government, there were unintendedhardships resulting from genuine measures to salvage the economy.Government did a lot to cushion some of the effects through a number of

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institutions and programmes such as settlement of outstanding debts tocontractors and salary arrears, prompt payment of salaries, introduction of theDirectorate of Food, Roads and Rural Infrastructure (DFRRI), Peoples Bank,community banks, NERFUND, National Directorate for Emloyment (NDE),Better Life Programme for Rural Women, Urban Mass Transit Programme,

etc.

It should be noted that before SAP, the country was at the edge of an economicprecipice with dire political and social consequences. Oil, our major exportcommodity, was then being sold for as low as $11.00 per barrel, and even thenit was difficult to find buyers.We organized a national debate on the IMF loan. SAP was agreed on by theexperts we consulted. Consequently, we introduced an economic reform whosekey elements were:

budget reforms

abolition of import licences

liberalisation of access to foreign exchange through introduction of the Secondtier Foreign Exchange Market (SFEM)

financial and banking system reform including liberalization of access tocredit, and of many credible new generation banks

abolition of commodity marketing boards.

It should be noted that the economic reform programme (SAP) inaugurated a

paradigm shift in the economic management and economic history of ourcountry from government dominated and controlled economy to theexpansion and deepening of the private sector economy. Our foresight onSAP prepared the national economy and society for the new paradigm ofglobalization and primacy of market-driven economies, and for acquisition ofnew management skills, etc.Top5. Corruption and its sociology

Corruption in government or by officials in government has been longstanding problem in Nigeria. It was there during the First Republic. The firstmilitary coup d etat was largely justified on the basis of allegations ofcorruption among past political leaders and public officials in that era.Regrettably, corruption is still very much with us and we need to curb it.

Specifically on our last government, we inherited a system in which corruptionwas rife. The perception that our government was corrupt or that itinstitutionalized corruption, whatever the phrase means, is grossly incorrect.First institutions and measures were established or under-taken by our

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Administration to fight corruption such as NDLEA, an anti- economicsabotage unit in the SSS, an economic intelligence unit in the DefenceIntelligence Agency. We also strengthened the Police Force Special FraudUnit. Second, any member of our government who was indicted or foundguilty of corruption was brought to book. Finally, on the issue of my personal

wealth, I want to state for the record that I am one of the most investigatedformer leaders of this country, and 17 years after leaving office I have not beenindicted for corruption or misappropriation of public funds.Top6. Maradonna, Evil Genius; Issue of Trust or Trustworthiness; Transition(agenda) without end; Credibility

These issues and appellations were ascribed to me by others, especially myrelentless critics. I have never described myself or our Administration in anyof those terms.

When people make reference to drawn- out programmes of socio-economictransformation and political transition which we embarked on, theydeliberately ignore the lesson of our determination to establish a stablepolitical system; the transition agenda was based on expert advice, had to begradual to ensure some experience and learning, and with measures toestablish best practices. Yes it took long. Yes, there were changes. However,because it was geared towards far-reaching transformation of social, economicand political processes and attitudes, the programme needed appropriateadjustments from time to time. Yet, the focus remained the same. (in fact, itwas only twice that the date of handover was formally adjusted- fromOctober, 1990 , as the original date to October, 1992 as advised by thePolitical Bureau and accepted by the Armed Forces Ruling Council (AFRC) ,

and to January, 1993. It was the confusion arising from the conduct of partyprimaries for presidential aspirants in late 1992 to February 1993 that led tothe election being held by June 12, 1993. Above all, it was a military regime atthe time. Today we have a democratic regime based on rules and regulations,as well as codes and norms to which I fully subscribe.Top7. Failure to appear before Oputa Panel

First, my lawyers appeared before the panel on my behalf and made definiterequests to enable me to appear personally, including assurances about securityand confidentiality. Unfortunately, these guarantees were not given and I hadno option than to turn down personal appearance.

Second, I got the intimation that the government at the time was trying to usethe white paper on it to intimidate opponents and cast aspersions on myperson. We were constrained to go to court to restrain this political andpotentially partisan use of the report. The court upheld our prayers andprotected my constitutional right, freedom and liberty.Top

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8. Oil Windfall Okigbo Report

All sorts of figures have been mentioned. Strictly speaking, the so-called oilwindfall receipt in the Okigbo Panel Report was barely $2 billion in theStabilization Account, not $12.4 billion. As a person and as a President, I was

not indicted in any way; in fact, IBB was never personally inferred in thereport. The report only said that the fund could have been applied to moreproductive or regenerative uses like agriculture, more debt repayment, etc. butin our judgement as the government of the day, it was also important tosupport some worthy causes of national interest such as ECOMOG;development of Abuja, the new FCT; provide more appropriate support forNigerian embassies abroad; and meet certain defence and security imperatives.(see the IBB Centres advertorial on this matter in several newspapers, e.g.This Day, Thursday, June 10, 2010; Vanguard, Thursday, June 10, 2010).Top9. The Insinuation to Back out of

Solomon227(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #3 on: August 17, 2010, 11:05 PM

If IBB is making sense to were probably not old enough to see what hapenedbtw 1985 and 1993. I will give u a brief summary of events connected to d evilgenius. IBB murder his bossom frend Vatsa even after the whole world wasbegging him 4 mercy, IBB annulled MKO victory and led to the death ofMKO and his wife, IBB killed military officers by planting bumb on their

plane, IBB killed Dele Giwa in cold blood by letter bomb, IBB stole 12 billiondollars, IBB annuled Yaradua Snr election and barred some politicians fromcontesting election, universities were shut for months while students werebeing killed at every opportunity, he unilatterally took Nigeria to a globalIslamic organization without consulting other senior people, My problem isdat GEJ is giving this gap-toothed carnibal the freedom he denied millions ofpeople during his ignoble years. I am not unaware d present-day politicians arenot saints either but IBB is a worse carnage dat should be avoided at all cost, Ifdiz generation allow IBB to come back again God knows we are truoble, hedoesnt 4give, (ask Vatsa widow), he doesnt listen to youth neither does hebelieve in them (ask Sowore), be warned of the Demon

Sharon_f(f) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #4 on: August 17, 2010, 11:13 PM

Poster actually meant to write

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Babangida is quite DENSE

You will know that 100000 Interviews cannot change 1985-1993.

Besides, this guy is almost 70. When he kpai, you go hear wen

youngmonie Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #5 on: August 17, 2010, 11:18 PM

Quote from: Solomon227 on August 17, 2010, 11:05 PMIf IBB is making sense to were probably not old enough to see what hapened

btw 1985 and 1993. I will give u a brief summary of events connected to d evilgenius. IBB murder his bossom frend Vatsa even after the whole world wasbegging him 4 mercy, IBB annulled MKO victory and led to the death ofMKO and his wife, IBB killed military officers by planting bumb on theirplane, IBB killed Dele Giwa in cold blood by letter bomb, IBB stole 12 billiondollars, IBB annuled Yaradua Snr election and barred some politicians fromcontesting election, universities were shut for months while students werebeing killed at every opportunity, he unilatterally took Nigeria to a globalIslamic organization without consulting other senior people, My problem isdat GEJ is giving this gap-toothed carnibal the freedom he denied millions ofpeople during his ignoble years. I am not unaware d present-day politicians arenot saints either but IBB is a worse carnage dat should be avoided at all cost, If

diz generation allow IBB to come back again God knows we are truoble, hedoesnt 4give, (ask Vatsa widow), he doesnt listen to youth neither does hebelieve in them (ask Sowore), be warned of the Demon

I jus want to ask a questionn, was dat all IBB did in his 8 yrs of government??If u sai yes, u have a biased mind or u dnt evn kno wht your talking bout oryour jus talking out of mare same old things if u sai no, we wud like to knowmore

Oba234 Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #6 on: August 17, 2010, 11:22 PM

making sense to who? please, he is only making sense to you? This guy reallyneed to get a life. He is 70 yrs old and he already became president once, haba,

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let it go. Stop being selfish and let other people compete.

STACYM(f)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #7 on: August 17, 2010, 11:23 PM

@poster I say nayyyyyyyyyyyy, are u his Nairaland campaign manager? Plsdon't be decieve by what u hear, its all a ploy to get back to our nationaltreasury. Be a patrotic nigeria. Don't sell your vote!!

Sky Blue Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense

#8 on: August 17, 2010, 11:29 PM

Quote from: youngmonie on August 17, 2010, 11:18 PM

I jus want to ask a questionn, was dat all IBB did in his 8 yrs of government??If u sai yes, u have a biased mind or u dnt evn kno wht your talking bout oryour jus talking out of mare same old things if u sai no, we wud like to knowmore

Why don't you spare us the rant and list some of the IBB achievements you

want us to focus on instead? Let us forget Structural Adjustment programme,or the death of industrialisation in Nigeria during his tenure, or the continuousshifting of goal post and handover dates and all the things that earned him thename 'maradona', why don't you lavish us with his achievments? We curiouslyawait. . .

Big B1 (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #9 on: August 17, 2010, 11:32 PM

Quoteslowly IBB is beginning to make a whole lot of sense.Watched him on AITtoday and i was impressedIMO he is in for the good reasons

@poster:IBB is always making sense, in fact, I have never seen someone who has so

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much wisdom and ability to put smile on one's face. FYI: His thinking is sobroad that it's almost unbelievable.I can assure you people that in the next few months many haters willexperience a change of heart; yes, he is that magnificent.

STACYM(f)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #10 on: August 17, 2010, 11:32 PM

@poster I say nayyyyyyyyyyyy, are u his Nairaland campaign manager? Plsdon't be decieve by what u hear, its all a ploy to get back to our nationaltreasury. Be a patrotic nigeria. Don't sell your vote!!

Solomon227(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #11 on: August 17, 2010, 11:37 PM

I surely say NO to the dullest, d most wicked, most heartless, dumbest rulerNigeria has ever had,

youngmonie Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #12 on: August 17, 2010, 11:50 PM

Quote from: Sky Blue on August 17, 2010, 11:29 PMWhy don't you spare us the rant and list some of the IBB achievements youwant us to focus on instead? Let us forget Structural Adjustment programme,or the death of industrialisation in Nigeria during his tenure, or the continuousshifting of goal post and handover dates and all the things that earned him thename 'maradona', why don't you lavish us with his achievments? We curiouslyawait. . .The establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja..The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal Operation Areas.The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes and vocationalskills..Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER).A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. .The creation of AkwaIbom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun, Yobe and

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Taraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas with take off grants.Direct funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government tomake them autonomous.National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the Mass

Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery(MAMSER).. National Directorate of Employment (NDE).Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. . The 1991 National PopulationCensus (NPC).. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads and RuralInfrastructure (DIFRRI).. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).. National Housing Fund.. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,. National Electoral Commission (. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. I

This may not make sense to u , buh take a look at how this country is nowcompareds to what it was den, Ibbs regime was far better than dat of objs

regimee, we din have all dis 9je delta issues, standard of living was muchbetter den than now

koruji (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #13 on: August 18, 2010, 12:00 AM

Quote from: Big B1 on August 17, 2010, 11:32 PM

@poster:IBB is always making sense, in fact, I have never seen someone who has somuch wisdom and ability to put smile on one's face. FYI: His thinking is sobroad that it's almost unbelievable.I can assure you people that in the next few months many haters willexperience a change of heart; yes, he is that magnificent.He he he -- "Jesus of Minna" - savior of the world not just Nigeria!

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Haven't you read or heard the description of Lucifer in the Holy Bible. Ormaybe you missed the shrewed twisting of the Bible that devil performed as hemade an to tamper with the faith of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

bidemi12(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #14 on: August 18, 2010, 12:00 AM

IBB making sense? either that or you are going crazy!!! Only a crazy person

would IBB make sense to.

Big B1 (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #15 on: August 18, 2010, 12:09 AM

There is nothing left, but the best of the best of IBB; do not let us miss thegreat opportunity to bring our country back.He has the experience because he has been there before, he has the uniquewisdom because he's older and had a few years to clearly watch andunderstand what needs to be done, he has unique stamina because he is still themost respected politician in Nigeria today, he completely understands unitybecause he thinks broadly it's almost unbelievable, and more than anythingelse he has the uncompromising support of the group of the biggest fish inNigeria; hence, accomplishing his goals effectively and efficiently as ourpresident is very much feasible.

In a few more months it will become more clearer to Nigerians in general thatnobody else can quickly take us to the promise land like our one and onlyincredible IBB.

He is completely focused, committed and his skin is thicker than the skin ofcrocodile, therefore, haters can continue to cry till the moon shines, IBB willnot stop till he is elected as the number 1 man of the Rep of Nigeria.

egift (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #16 on: August 18, 2010, 12:11 AM

@ youngmonie:That's a great list , Oya can someone post that of GEJ and others make we

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compare. Abi?

Sharon_f(f) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #17 on: August 18, 2010, 12:12 AM

Quote from: Big B1 on August 18, 2010, 12:09 AMThere is nothing left, IBB will not stop till he is elected as the number 1 manof the Rep of Nigeria.

Does that mean that he is ready to rig his way into office?

Quote from: egift on August 18, 2010, 12:11 AM@ youngmonie:

That's a great list , Oya can someone post that of GEJ and others make wecompare. Abi?

Is there anyone here campaigning for Johnathan? Certainly not me!

Quote from: youngmonie on August 17, 2010, 11:50 PMThe establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja..The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal OperationAreas.The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes andvocational skills.

.Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER).A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. .The creation ofAkwa Ibom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun,Yobe and Taraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas withtake off grants. - What did these achieve during his 8 years??

Direct funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government tomake them autonomous.National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the Mass

Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery(MAMSER).. National Directorate of Employment (NDE).Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA). - You have highlightedthe carefully created channels of his corruption. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. . The 1991 NationalPopulation Census (NPC).

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. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads andRural Infrastructure (DIFRRI).. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).. National Housing Fund.

. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.

. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.

. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,

. National Electoral Commission (. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. - NONE of which wereeffective during his time! They made NO impact on the lives of Nigerians!

This may not make sense to u , buh take a look at how this country is nowcompareds to what it was den, Ibbs regime was far better than dat of objsregimee, we din have all dis 9je delta issues, standard of living was muchbetter den than now

Despite all these, the 1985 Naira which was N1 to $2, slipped to 1992 to N20to $1. Explain this in terms of your messiah, Sirs.

Solomon227(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #18 on: August 18, 2010, 12:17 AM

Youngmonie=Big1. U know I was almost hoodwinked into believing u guysdont know u are selling poisons. But I just realise u know exactly what u arepeddling. Sory we aint buying yoh pooo, check the hatred for 1 man (even anequally evil OBJ never elicited this much hatred and emotion). But as u guysare trying to earn your living I cannot blame u but dont put pooh on our facebad telling us d good tins he has done, IBB is an epidemic we all must avoid.Thank God all odds her surely against him. Buhari is more popular than him inthe north, the south and mid-belt are rooting for GEJ and GEJ surely controlsthe PDP machinery even if he didnt want to contest he can easily make sureIBB didnt pick the PDP ticket,

koruji (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #19 on: August 18, 2010, 12:20 AM

You either playing the ostrich or ignorant. Either way the overall question to

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you is what became of all of these programs, when you single-handedly threwthe entire nation into turmoil. Let me tell you IBB's hope has always been thatthis turmoil will lead him back to Aso Rock. Think about it. What is a 70-yearold looking to do for Nigeria that cannot be continued through his proteges?No, IBB has nobody's interest at heart other than his own. See some specifics

below:

Quote from: youngmonie on August 17, 2010, 11:50 PMThe establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics ===> You mean byclosing down universities and causing the nations university workforce toleave our shores enmass.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja ===> So what? OBJstarted it. You don't build a capital city in one year.The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal Operation Areas.===> Again so what? The only things that change is which zone you get to

lose your N50

The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes and vocationalskills..Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER). ===> You mean the jamboree that had nohead or no tail, and was designed to make him president for life . A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. . ===> The constitutionwas so good, Abacha/Abdusalami got rid of it. The creation of Akwa Ibom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi,Kogi, Osun, Yobe and Taraba States and over 136 new Local .GovernmentAreas with take off grantsDirect funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government to

make them autonomous. National Agricultural Land Development Authority(NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the MassMobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery(MAMSER). ===> You are shamelessly double-counting - Typical IBB style. National Directorate of Employment (NDE)..Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. ..The 1991 National Population Census (NPC).. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads and RuralInfrastructure (DIFRRI).

. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).

. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).

. National Housing Fund.

. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.

. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.

. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,

. National Electoral Commission

. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.

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Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. I

This may not make sense to u , buh take a look at how this country is nowcompareds to what it was den, Ibbs regime was far better than dat of objsregimee, we din have all dis 9je delta issues, standard of living was muchbetter den than now

Sky Blue Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #20 on: August 18, 2010, 12:23 AM

Quote from: youngmonie on August 17, 2010, 11:50 PMThe establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja..The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal Operation Areas.The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes and vocationalskills..Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER).A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. .The creation of AkwaIbom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun, Yobe andTaraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas with take off grants.Direct funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government to

make them autonomous.National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the MassMobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery(MAMSER).. National Directorate of Employment (NDE).Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. . The 1991 National PopulationCensus (NPC).. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads and Rural

Infrastructure (DIFRRI).. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).. National Housing Fund.. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,. National Electoral Commission (. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.

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Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. I

This may not make sense to u , buh take a look at how this country is nowcompareds to what it was den, Ibbs regime was far better than dat of objsregimee, we din have all dis 9je delta issues, standard of living was muchbetter den than now

Sorry but a lot of the items on your list are quite predictable and I expected it, Imean, when did creation of more states (many which can't even supportthemselves) become an achievement? Why was the federal capital moved toAbuja (don't play naive)? MAMSER/NOA, NDE, FREC, NHIS, NHF, pleasewhat have their achievements been? Is creation of government agencies (andmore bureaucracy) now the benchmark of effective leadership? Is this not thesame IBB that is apparently now talking about the need for small government?The same man that seems to be trying to distance himself from what youespouse as his achievements?

I would like you to put things in context instead of trying to rewrite thebabangida era. Babangida ruled for eight solid years in a military regime.During this time he didn't really have to deal with the slow processes andprocedures that have become synonymous with presidential democracies, whathe said pretty much went, hence putting him in a better position to actuallybring about real changes in Nigeria IF he wanted to. What happened instead?He kept putting off handing over and eventually led us to Abacha. Of courselife in the IBB years might seem better when you compare it to now

considering there was some order before he entered accelerated the downwardspiral of the country. Why don't you make a more useful comparison and tellus how life was before IBB entered and how it was after he left? How was theeconomy? We keep shouting corruption this corruption that, which regimeturned 'chop I chop' into a political culture? People might argue that the Buhariregime was strict but compare the order during that era and what wasobtainable during the IBB regime. What about education? IBB is not the onlyPresident to build Universities and polytechnics but why don't we again makemore substantial comparisons with regards to education during the IBB regimewhen I might add Universities were shut for months? Is education to yousimply building of new schools buildings? This whole culture of ASUU goingon strike, please what era did it really start? SAP, what benefit did it bring tothe economy? I could go on but it would be pointless because I believe youknow all of the issues but just chose to go on some campaign website and copyand paste, thinking I would be intimidated by all those abbreviations fordefunct and failed government agencies which during his tenure were a meansof siphoning money.

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Solomon227(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #21 on: August 18, 2010, 12:24 AM

QuoteThe establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja..The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal Operation Areas.The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes and vocationalskills..Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER).A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. .The creation of AkwaIbom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun, Yobe andTaraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas with take off grants.

Direct funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government tomake them autonomous.National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the MassMobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery(MAMSER).. National Directorate of Employment (NDE).Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. . The 1991 National PopulationCensus (NPC).

. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads and RuralInfrastructure (DIFRRI).

. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).

. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).

. National Housing Fund.

. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.

. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.

. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,

. National Electoral Commission (. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;

Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. IU still dont get it. Ask OBJ what he did in 8 years he will come with a list 10times your own and we are all living witness to how beter we fair during andafter OBJ, according to your low standar IBB is a performer by stealingbillions and giving peanuts to frends and cronies, anyway we are not voting theonly place we want him to be is Kirikiri and so shall it be

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koruji (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #22 on: August 18, 2010, 12:26 AM

Quote from: egift on August 18, 2010, 12:11 AM@ youngmonie:That's a great list , Oya can someone post that of GEJ and others make wecompare. Abi?

Why don't you first list for us how many years Jonathan has ruled thiscountry?

While you are it I need a list of the people that died under direct orders ofIBB?

You will also need to get paper long enough to collect the signature of themillions of Nigerians whose vote IBB annulled without regard to their welfare

Don't forget to reach into the beyond, preferable with IBB in your company, toseek the forgiveness of Abiola and Vatsa.

We'll be waiting!

Sky Blue Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #23 on: August 18, 2010, 12:29 AM

Quote from: Solomon227 on August 18, 2010, 12:24 AMU still dont get it. Ask OBJ what he did in 8 years he will come with a list10 times your own and we are all living witness to how beter we fair duringand after OBJ, according to your low standar IBB is a performer by stealingbillions and giving peanuts to frends and cronies, anyway we are not voting theonly place we want him to be is Kirikiri and so shall it be

That is the thing, these lists are not that difficult to compile and unfortunatelymany would fall for it thinking it reads as a list of sucessful achievements, justask Peter Odilli. Peter Odilli was probably the worst governor Rivers Stateever saw, yet he had a long list of achievemtns made up of mundane tritedisplayed as achievements for Nigerians to read. He was corrupt, pretty muchran down his state, indicted by EFCC of stealing 100billion naira (and that isonly the one Nigerians know of) etc, but hey, he did win some 'best governor'award in the country so it just goes to show that people can fall for anything.

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Big B1 (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #24 on: August 18, 2010, 12:33 AM

No need to throw sucker punch, please respect yourselvesYou're not my father; please don't attempt to prescribe who I shouldn't votefor, just state your point and move on.

koruji (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #25 on: August 18, 2010, 12:43 AM

No you got it wrong. At ~70, IBB is an orange whose juice is gone. The onlything left is for him to dry up and shrivel.

Quote from: Big B1 on August 18, 2010, 12:09 AMThere is nothing left, but the best of the best of IBB; do not let us miss thegreat opportunity to bring our country back.

He has the experience because he has been there before = He he, your wifecan't get pregnant, but hey here is her previous abusivehusband to the rescue. Great logic from IBB folks as always.

He has the unique wisdom because he's older (Ageism, another diseasethat holds back Nigeria is the reason we must give IBB thepresidency) and had a few years to clearly watch and understand what needsto be doneAnd all these years he was keeping it under wrapsuntil Yar'adua dies? - great wisdom right there, he has unique

stamina Yeah - the unique stamina of a 70 year old because he isstill the most respected politician in Nigeria today Speak for yourself andyour buldging bank account, he completely understands unity because

he thinks broadly it's almost unbelievableWake up you are in a trance,and more than anything else he has the uncompromising support of the groupof the biggest fish in NigeriaNow you are revealing your strategy, bitby bit - biggest fish, how about antelope?; hence, accomplishing hisgoals effectively and efficiently as our president is very much feasible.

In a few more months it will become more clearer to Nigerians in general that

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nobody else can quickly take us to the promise land like our one and only

incredible IBB.This does it for me - you are into IBB's religion ofprice is right. Listen, NOBODY is going to take Nigeria intothe promised land, but Nigerians - we 'll start by making sure

nobody sends us back the wrong way another several yearslike he did from 1985 - 1999

He is completely focused, committed and his skin is thicker than the skin ofcrocodile, therefore, haters can continue to cry till the moon shines, IBB will

not stop till he is elected as the number 1 man of the Rep of Nigeria.This isnot about hating - this is about preserving whatever is left ofthe future of our childern, by making sure that this bloodsuckerdoesn't get his fangs into our necks one more time

doyin13 (m) Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #26 on: August 18, 2010, 01:10 AM

Who is the comparing Obj to Babangida. What the bleep does Obj have to dowith the issue at hand.Is Obj running for the presidency?

Comparing one failed regime with another.

Bloody fucktard. . . .

ondo_boi(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #27 on: August 18, 2010, 02:30 AM

Quote from: youngmonie on August 17, 2010, 11:50 PMThe establishment of new Universities and Polytechnics.The movement of Federal Capital from Lagos to Abuja..The reorganization of the Nigeria Police into seven Zonal Operation Areas.The unemployment grant to States for agricultural programmes and vocationalskills..Establishment of Mass Mobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice andEconomic Recovery (MAMSER).A 46-member Panel to review the 1979 Constitution. .The creation of AkwaIbom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun, Yobe andTaraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas with take off grants.

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Direct funding of Local Government Areas from the Federal Government tomake them autonomous.National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA).. National Orientation Agency (NOA) formerly known as the MassMobilization for Self-Reliance Social Justice and Economic Recovery

(MAMSER).. National Directorate of Employment (NDE).Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).. Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.. Federal Urban Mass Transit programme. . The 1991 National PopulationCensus (NPC).. National Women Commission. . The Directorate of Food, Roads and RuralInfrastructure (DIFRRI).. Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC).. National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS).. National Housing Fund.. Commission of the Onne Fertilizer Plant in Rivers State.. The 260 million dollars Petrol Chemical Plant in Kaduna.. NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,. National Electoral Commission (. Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.Children Trust Fund.. Resumed diplomatic relations with IsraelCentral Bank Autonomy Decree, . Others were: NAFDAC; Ecomog;Reduction of import duties on newsprint, etc. I

This may not make sense to u , buh take a look at how this country is nowcompareds to what it was den, Ibbs regime was far better than dat of objsregimee, we din have all dis 9je delta issues, standard of living was much

better den than now

Quote from: Sharon_f on August 18, 2010, 12:12 AMDoes that mean that he is ready to rig his way into office?

Is there anyone here campaigning for Johnathan? Certainly not me!

Despite all these, the 1985 Naira which was N1 to $2, slipped to 1992 to N20to $1. Explain this in terms of your messiah, Sirs.

Quote from: Sharon_f on August 18, 2010, 12:12 AMDoes that mean that he is ready to rig his way into office?

Is there anyone here campaigning for Johnathan? Certainly not me!

Despite all these, the 1985 Naira which was N1 to $2, slipped to 1992 to N20to $1. Explain this in terms of your messiah, Sirs.

From 1993 till date- 1$ to N150. is that also IBB's fault?

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paddy_lo

(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #28 on: August 18, 2010, 02:45 AM

Oh u want to know how ibb did when he was in power?

very simple. . .

in 1985 when ibb came in our GDP was $28.4billion

and in 1993 when he stepped aside, our GDP had fallen to $21.4billion dollars

so lets see that means our GDP shrank by 25% in those 8yrs. . .

that alone should mean he is a failure. . .do u understand what it means for an

economy to shrink 25% in 8yrs

If that happened in america there will be riots and anarchy in the streets(oh yeathere were riots in naija sha)

u dont wanna live through that trust me. . .

PLS see link for details. . .

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:NGA&tstart=-315619200000&tunit=Y&tlen=48&hl=en&dl=en

bidemi12(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #29 on: August 18, 2010, 02:45 AM

my head is still reeling from the responses on this thread. By the special grace

of God IBB will be president. I swear you'all deserve him. Can you imagine?amnesia is a serious problem in that country. A nation deserves the leaders itgets. IBB for president ke. Its like asking the devil to take countrol of one'slife. wish you'all good luck. You'll definitely need it.

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paddy_lo(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #30 on: August 18, 2010, 02:51 AM

Quotethinking I would be intimidated by all those abbreviations for defunct and

failed government agencies which during his tenure were a means of siphoningmoney.

lol. . i am baffled that someone could actually point to that long list ofGOVT failed projects as achievement. . .

what was so hard in setting up and nurturing car assembly plants. .that hecouldnt do

having an industrial policy

what about the failed promise of turning aba into a technology village

truth be told IBB squandered his 8yrs in power,chasing shadows

how can someone in their right mind tell me that setting up MAMSER is

an achievement. . is it a joke. .

ondo_boi(m)

Re: Babangida Is Begining To Make Sense #31 on: August 18, 2010, 02:53 AM

Quote from: bidemi12 on August 18, 2010, 02:45 AMmy head is still reeling from the responses on this thread. By the special graceof God IBB will be president. I swear you'all deserve him. Can you imagine?amnesia is a serious problem in that country. A nation deserves the leaders itgets. IBB for president ke. Its like asking the devil to take countrol of one'slife. wish you'all good luck. You'll definitely need it.AMEN

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