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4Tanach is the Jewish Bible Or Jewish Canon. It is not Old Covenant or Old Teatament. In fact the5

Greek translations like Septuagint[LXX],Version of Auuilla,Version ofTheodotion,Version Of6

Symmachus etc. Were never called as Old Covenant or Old Testament. It was fairly late that post7

Iesous Cannon was established and after it was compiled it still took a long period to Tanach or8

its Greek versions as OLD COVENANT OR OLD TESTAMENT.It may be interesting to note that9

even Syriac [Aramaic ] Verson was not known as Old or New Testament or Covenant.10

The Hebrew word for Covenant is Brit [tirB]No where in Hebrew Tanach it is called OLD11

Covenant Or Old Testament.In is very interesting to note down that even in the books of New12Testament ,the word Old Testament or Old Covenant is mensioned for

HEBRAIC TANACH.

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Even Iesous Himself never called the books of Hebraic Tanach as OLD COVENANT or

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OLD TESTAMENT.That is why a number of people in Christianity are compelled to

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think that the post esous Scriptures and Ante Iesous SCRIPTURES ARE TWO BOOKS

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and not a single book of two parts namely OC or OT and NC or NT. So if the word

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Bible may be used for each of them them then there are two Bibles .If the word Bible

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is confined to Tanach and Its Translations then there tre two Holy Books in

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Christianity namely Bible and NT.[ If Iesous The ultimate Founder Of Christianity

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did not call Hebraic Books Of Hebraic Cannon as old Testament or Old Covenant

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only Iesous but non of his disciples ever call tis Non Biblical Term s of OT or OC. So

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it is cincorrect to use this term even according to New - Testamental standard.]

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Words of timeless GOD never grow old and are perpetually not old.

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Other wise the New Testament may be termed as TWO THOUSAND YEARS OLD

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TESTAMENT or some 1700 years old but still new testament.

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Athanasian Christianity believes that the belief of Athanasian Trinity is found in

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Hebraic Bible. It is constantly attempted to prove Athanasian Trinity from the text of

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DISCUSION

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THE TEXT

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Tanach and Lxx. A n example is Isaiah 9 where the word FATHER is used to apply on

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Iesous who is not father even from the standard of Athanasian Christianity.

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An other example is of the Proper Noun Ammanuel which was not a noun of

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Iesous.There is no rule that the literal meanking of a proper noun may be used to

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apply aProper Noun On a Person.Yet it is do so. Genesis is also used to shew that

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God is a trinity.

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There are three most misused verses in Genesis which are constantly being misused by37

A thenasianism in an attempt to prove the Dogma Of Trinity Of God.38

These verse do not prove trinity. It is discussed in some detain since Athanasianism rejects all39

the Jewish Commentaries in a single stroke. In this section there will be a critical study of40

The book [ tiSarB ] Read from right to left/41

AND THE GOD SAID , >[Genesis -26]43

The Hebraic TEXT in PURE LATIN ALPHABETS and Letters is as44

follow:45

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vN tvmD C vN mlsS C mdA hsNmihvlA48

rmaI V49


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letter of each word is a Capital Letter and rest of57

the letters of each word are in Small letters. Letter58

A for Aleph,V for Vau, for AinsS for Sde etc.]59

ATTENTION. Any error is writing Hebraic Text in60

Pure Latin Alphabets is purely accidental. For more61

accuracy one is advised to consult a Tanach in62

Hebrew.63

This is the most problematic verse Of Genesis Of Torah [ PETENTIUCH ] ofJewish Tanch and64

Christian OLD COVENENT [OC/ OT]. Athenisian Christianstry to provr the Dogma Of Trinity Of65Triune God From this verse.66

But this verse does not prove this Dogma in the least sense .67

There are some obvious mistakes in its translations in different languages.68

They are discussed in several priliminaries.69

FIRST PRE MILINARY70

The following are the most obvious mistakes in a number of translations.71

A] The word said is an incorrect translation. It should be Ordered or Commanded.Since the72

Hebrew wordIAMR

means Command or Order.73

Why this is translated as SAID instead of ORDERED or COMMANDEDis very obvious. GOD CAN74

NOT BE COMMANDED AND THIS EXPLODES arguments in favour of Dogma Of Trinity.75

B] The word MANis once again most fatal mistake in the alleged translations. The Hebrew Text76

contains the word ADAM, and not the Word MAN. Why Athanasian Christianity has77rejected the Proper Noun ADAM in these translations and subtituted the Common Noun MAN in78

place of It. The answer is once again quite simple.[1]79

Adam is an Individual Human Person , and is not a Human Trinity. If God is a Divine Trinity then80

Adam Must be a Human Trinity. Thus to hide this problem the The Proper Knoun Adam is81

changed by a Common Noun MAN.82

C] INOUR IMAGEis once again an incorrect translation. First the Hebrew word S-L-Mmeans83

SHADOW OR PROJECTION.84

It does not mean IMAGE. To translate SHADOWas IMAGE is just to force Genesis to be in85

Harmony with the ATHANASIAN COMMENTARIES OF YOHONNON OF NT/NC.86

So once more one must neglect this and take the original meaning OF SHADOW.87


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Also the preposition IN is an incorrect TRANSLATION. The most appropriate translation is88

FROM and Not In.89

This means ADAM WAS MADE FROM SHADOW OF GOD, ADAM WAS NOT MADE IN THE IMAGE90

OF GOD/G-D./91

As the word Shadow explodes trinitical interpretations of this verse of Genesis Of Torah Of92

Tanach, ATHANASIAN CHRISTIANS TRIED TO TRANSLATE IT BY THE WORD image, and instead93

of using the word FROM as the most appropriate Preposition in the translation deliberately94

used the preposition IN.95

D] One of the worst translations is the translation # IN OUR LIKENESS#.96

The Hebrew word is DUMUS which means FIGURE,SHAPE, FORM etc.97

The word Cu preceeds it. So the word become Cu-Dumus.98

It means LIKE OUR FIGUREor Like Our Shape, Or Like Our Form , Or In likeness of [Our] Figure99

etc..100

NOW THE TRANSATION BECOMES AS FOLLOW:101

AND GOD COMMANDED, LET US MAKE ADAM FROM OUR SHADOW ,LIKE OUR FIGURE/FORM.102

Second premilinary.103

THERE ARE MORE PROBLEMS IN THE hEBREW Non Bebrew translations.104

They maybe discussed below.105

A]The problem of self imperative sentences.106

In a large number of languages an IMPERATIVE SENTENCE or an Imperative Verb107

is used for the second Person and not for the first person and the third person.108

But in Hebrew an imperative sentence may be for the first or third persons as109

well.110

This generates a problem in translation and makes translations misguiding.111

The Hebrew word N--S-H

It is a self imperative VERB in the Hebraic112

sentence. That is a Peson orders Hnself.A thing which is not found in most of the113

languages. So they are forced to translate as Les Us [In the case of First Person114

Imperative sentence] or LET HIM OR LET THEM [In the case of third person115

imperative sentences]. But hese attempts make ambiguities which are used by116

ATHANASIANISM.117

In order to convey the actual meaning one may take some liberty from interliner118

translations.119


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A more accurate translation in regard to sense of the Original Hebraic Text is as120

follow.121

AND THE GOD COMMANDED [ HIMSELF] MAKE ADAM FROM OUR SHADOW LIKE [122

OUR] FIGURE/FORM. N--S-H is a self commanding verb in plural. But As GOD CAN123

NOT BE COMMANDED IT IS JUST A METAPHOR and not a word in real meaning of124

the word. [ This is perhaps the best way to convey the Idea of a Self IMPERATIVE125

SENTENCE, YET IT IS NOT AN INTERLINER TRANSLATION.] A more accurate126

literal meaning may be conveyed by the following translation.127

AND THE GODS COMMANDED [ THEMSELVES] MAKE ADAM FROM OUR SHADOW128

LIKE [ OUR] FIGURE/FORM,129

But although the word Alohem literally means GODS [] PLURAL[], IT IT MEANS A130

SINGLE GOD AS A PLURAL IN FORM OF WORD AND SINGULAR IN MEANING131

KNOWN AS PLURAL OF MAJESTY MAJESTY, OR A MAJESTIC SINGULAR.132

SIMILARLY THE WORD NAS H IS A PLURAL OF MAJESTY . THE ONLY133

DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE FORMER WORD IS A NOUN AND THE LATTER WORD IS134

A VERB.135

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Even from the trinitical point of view Logos is God and God can not be137

commanded by First or third Hypostases. Even the Trinitical Being cannot138

command any one of the Hypostases residing in its Ousia139

[SUBSTANCE/GODHEAD].140

So even upon the standard of Trinitical Dogmas it is use of a word not in the real141

meaning but in the virtual / unreal meaning.142

But if some one insists that TRIUNE GOD ORDERS ALL THOSE HYPOSTASES143

WHICH RESIDE IN THE OUISA OF THE TRIUNE GOD even then he must have to144

accept that as Each Supreme Hypostasis Is God , None of them can be145

commanded neither by the Trinitical God or Triune God Or God the Trinity Nor by146

any one of the CO-HYPOSTASES dwelling jointly in the Ousia of the Triune God Or147

Trinity. So he must have to confess that this WORD is in a Virtual meaning ,148

instead of the real meaning of the word.149

If virtual then not real and thus the dispute is just upon the two virtual meanings150

of a given word, and if so then at least neither of them can be certain , and if none151

of then are certain then no argument can be made from uncertain alternatives.152

Now translate the original sense as God Ordered themselves or God Order153

Himself, each meaning is just a virtual meaning.154

THIRD PREMILINARY155


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THE WORD ELOHEM AND ITS MEANING156

The Hebraic word Elohem [ mihvlA] [ Read the Holy157

words from right to left]is a plural of words Elah [hlA]or Eloah158

[hvlA].The Word Eloah

or Elah

means God or god or deity.159

Consequently the plural of them means Gods or gods or deities.160

Thus the words Eloah or Elah means God or god, amd the word Elohem means161

Gods or gods.162

In the real and literal meaning the word ELOHEM can not be used for the Supreme163

Being o f Tanakh and the Supreme Being of O.C.164

Since both believe in just One God and not in more then one Gods.165

And the word ELOHEM does not mean God or god but GODS or gods in its literal166

meaning.167

From Jewish point of view GOD is UnoUnity or Mono Unity , that is only One168

Hypostatic Person In Godhead. The same is tue from the point of view of Unitarian169

Christianity and Arian ChristianitFrom Trinitical point of view there is Only One170

God Who is a Triune God and a Trinity.171

Therefore this God cannot be called GODS or gods . The plurality of Hypostases172

in the Divine Ousia [Substance]Of Supreme Being does not allow the words Gods173

and gods for the Supreme Being./ One even can not say Divine hypostases are174

Gods/ gods , according to the Dogma Of Trinity Of God.175

So the word Elohem

can not be used for the Supreme Being or the176

Hypostases in the Ousia Of The Supreme Being [Godhead], and additionally not for177

the collection of them if the word Elohem means Gods or gods.178

If the word Elohem

does not mean Gods or gods, then it means God or179

god [Plural Of Majesty and Singular in meaning].In this case it does not imply any180

plurality of Hypostases in the Ousia Of the Supreme Being. Since it only means181

God or god [That is the form of the word is plural yet its meaning is182

singular.Unfortunately there is no analogue in English. It may be understood just183

by a supposed example. Suppose that the word BOOKS which is the plural of the184

word Book is used for a Single Majestic Book.Now the word BOOK does not mean185

its Real meaning , the plural Of the word Book, but it means book, plural in form186

and singular in MEANING.]. The words God and god does not imply plurality of187

Hypostases in the given singular form. The entire discussion in the support of the188

Dogma Of Trinity is based on scriptural verses and not on the singular form of the189

word God or god.190


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So if the word Elohem means God or god it does not imply any plurality of Divine191

Hypostatic Persons in the Divine Ousia [Godhead] Of the Supreme Being [God].192

Thus the word Elohem has just the following possibilities.193

A] The word Elohem means God or god.194

This is the real and primary meaning of the word.[Plural]195

B]The word Elohem means Gods or gods. This is the secondary meaning of the196

word.[Singular]197

C] It means neither of these two meanings[ i.e neither plural nor singular] .198

In the first sense it is not useable to God Of Hebraic Scriptures.199

In the second sense it doesnot imply any plurality of Hypostases in the Divine200Ousia [namely Godhead[ If it still implies some sort of plurality of Hypostases and201

Hypostatic Plurality in the Divine Ousia then it is neither in the first meaning nor202

in the second meaning.203

Assuming that the first is the regular meaning and second is the irregular204

meaning then the third is the unique meaning which is neither regular nor205

irregular but only one of its kind. Word singular in meaning yet implying plurality206

of Supreme Hypostases in the Ousia Of Its Grammatical and literal Subject i.e The207

Supreme Being. How ever such type of word was not known before the foundation208

of Athanasian Christianity.209

Now we render some more possible translation of the verse .210

AND GODS COMMANDED [THEMSELVES] ,


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SIXTH PRIMILINARY226

THE HEBRAIC WORD IAMAR is usually translated is SAID instead of commanded.227

It amy be translated on the demand of context as said. But its actual meaning is228

Commanded.229

It may be the case that more number of places may be translated as SAID,yet thre230

must be a demand of context to translate it as such. It does not depend upon the231

majority or minority of cases but it depend upon the context. If there are more232

number of cases where the word is demanded to mean SAID by the context, and less233

number of cases where there is no such demand by the context, then it may be234

translated as SAID on the demands not because because of the greater number of235

demands. I f there is no such demand from the context then it must be translated236

as COMMANDED OR COMMAND, SINCE A SHIFT IN MEANING FROM REAL TO237

VERTUAL DOES NOT DEPEND UPON THE MAJORITY OF CASES BUT UPON THE238DEMANDS, AND THE INDICATIONS OF CONTEXTS, ANS SOME TIME EXTERNAL239

INDICATIONS AS WELL. The principle and rule of demands and indications are240

independent of majority or minority. This is the key point which must be kept in241

mind. So it is incorrect to argue that a greater number of cases demand that it242

must be translated as SAID, then this means that every thing has become243

TOPSYTERVY , .This is incorrect. The rule is that is thre is only one place where244

there is no demand and thousand of places where there are demands, even then245

the PRINCIPLE is immutable .246

SEVENTH PREMILINARY247

If one delete all the prepositions and try to translate with out prepositions one248

may get a more pure meaning.249

And Ordered Elohem [Himself] Make Adam Like Our Shadow, Like Our250

figure.251

The Hebraic word Dumus may be translates as Form but it can be easily confused252

with the Theological term Form which is Nothing But the Ousia Of Divine Supreme253

Being in theological Discussions about Supreme Being. Hebraic Text are confined to the254

meanings of Hebrew Language whether Real or Virtual.255

8thPreliminary.256

They word Elohem does not prove the Dogma Of Trinity, and does not imply any257

type of Plurality. One of the simplest proof is as follow.258

This proof is directly followed from the word Elohem.259

If the Dogma Of Trinity is true then each and every Hypostasis dwelling in the260

Divine Ousia [Namely Godhead] Is God , say Logos is God.261


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Now the question is.262

Is Logos Elohem.?263

If Logos is NOT then Logos is not GOD. This contradicts the Dogma Of Trinity.264

If Logos is, the Logos is Itself A Trinity and a Triune God. This is against the265

Dogma Of Trinity To believe that Some Hypostases [atleast one]in Triune God are266

Trinities.Thus the dogma of Trinity it self implies that the word Elohemcan not be267

used as a plural word implying plurality of Hypostases in Divine Ousia or in any268

one of the Hypostasis. That is PERHAPS ONE OF THE REASONS ,that a number of269

protestants also agree that the word ELOHEM is just a Plural of Majesty.270

CONCLUSION271

The word Elohem is used as a singular and if it is used as a singular it loses any272

type of plurality. To claim that it still implies a sort of plurality say the plurality of273

Supreme Hypostases in the Divine Ousia Of the Divine Being is a latter invention.274

No Hebraic scholar from the day Hebraic Genesis was written to the advent of275

Athanasian Christianity ever consider this type of strange plural-singular276

amalgam. Even if God is a Trinity and not a unoUnity or MonoUnity , the word277

Elohen when used as a singular loses any implication to the plurality of278

Hypostases in the Ousia Of Supreme Being, and if used as a Plural Implies279

Plurality of Divine Beings ,not just Plurality Of Hypostases. Even if there are280

thousans of Hypostases In Divine Ousia it can not be used in its Plural281

meaningsince in this case it means nothing but Gods or gods ,and these words I.E282

Gods and gods can not be used for The Supreme Being even if there are283

thousands of mutually distinct and incommunicable Divine hypostases in the284

Divine Ousia Of Divine Being. Thus this verse does not proves trinity in the least285

meaning.286

Objection1.287

Use of plural of Majesty isan irregular case of Hebrew language. It is incorrect to288

prefer an irregular case when it is possible to take a word regular case.289

Answer .290

A] It is incorrect to reject a case just because it is irregular , since irregulars also291

exist. How ever the uses of some irregulars are regulars for certain grammatical292

things. Elohem has been a regular case for a God Of Judaism since ages.293

No one ever claimed to be irregular for GOD.294

It is very strange to claim that all he Hebraic Prophets and all the authors of295

Hebraic Scriptures used this irregular word with out knowing that it implies296plurality of Hypostases in the Ousia Of Elohem.If they had the slightest doubt297


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they would have never used this word for the GOD OF JUDAISM since they did not298

believed in the hypostatic plurality in the Ousia Of Elohem Of Judaism 299

B] If this is an Irregular case then the Christological use of A SINGULAR300

IMPLYING THE PLURALITY IN THE OUSIA IS THE UNIQUE CASE OR A PLURAL301

ONLY IMPLYING THE HYPOSTATIC PLURALITY IN THE OUSIA302

Is the Unique case of Hebrew language. It is then neither regular nor irregular but303

purely unique . And if so then even an irregular case is far more preferable then304

the alleged this case .305

C] It is strange to see that if it is a real plural and not a plural of Majesty then it306

does not mean GODS . IF ELOHEM DOES NOT MEANS gods TRHEN IT IS NOT A307

PLUTRAL AT ALL, irrespective of the alleged implication of Hyposatatic Plurality308

in the Ousia Of the Subject of the word ELOHEM.309

OBJECTION 2310

There is a plurality in singularity and if so then the plural form of a word is311

useable.312

Answer.313

If so then one can use the word GODS for this plurality but The Dogma Of Trinity314

Does not allow to do so even for this case. Are we to assume that there are a315

number of GODS in regared to the alleged plurality and only one GOD in regard to316

singularity.One is not allowed to claim that there are more then one GOD in317

regard to hypostatic plurality and only one GOD in regard to Osiaic Singularity.318

If not then then the word ELOHEM does not make any exception.319

Since it either means GOD if it is a Plural Of Majesty, and it means GODS if it320

means A real Plural.321

One Elohem means One God since the word Elohem means God or godif it is322

singular in meaning [Plural Of Majesty].323

One Elohem means One Gods, if it is a Real Plura [Plural Of Number ] 324

But this meaning is incorrect even if the Dogma Of Trinity is correct.If325

Dogma Of Trinity Does not allow the use Of the plural Of God or god for the326

Trinitical Plurality Of Hypostases, the same is true for the WORD ELOHEM if it327

means GODS.328

If this does not mean Gods or gods then it only means God or god with out any329

Implication to the stated above Plurality.[2]330


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FOOT NOTES;333

[1] THERE FORE THE TRANSLATRIONS AND THE GOD SAID , > IS A BETTER TRANSLATION THAN ,, AND THE GOD SAID , > .It must be noted than the noun ADM Must be taken as a proper noun336

unless and otherwise it becomes imperative to take it as a common noun in its literal337

meaning.To translate is as as Man is incorrect unless and other wise three is some338

impossibilities [atleast one]in the text.339

[2]The root of the word Elohem is Elah,[ ] and ELOAH is a derivative of Elah. The340

word ELOHEM [ELOAHEM] is a plural of the word Eloah.341

This word is used in Hebraic Tanach for Angels ,Kings, Judges, Chiefs and even false Gods./gods.342

In Exodus,it is used for Moshe [Moses]. This is sufficient to that the word when used as a343

singular implies only one person as in the case of Moses [hsM].This word does not imply any344

sort of plurality if it is used as a singular.If the author of Genesis ever comes to know what345

arguments are made from his simple texs which he has authored he would be the most346

surprised person in the entire history of authors of religious scriptures.347

Notes@ Pure Latin Alphabets are: ABCDEFGHILMNOPQRSTVX348

All the other Alphabets are Latin Extended Alphabetswith subdivisions.349

Hemi Latin Alphabets are: KUY, K and Y were geneally used to write Greek word with KAPPA or350

Upsilon.351

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Non Latin Alphabets are: JW353

Special Non Latin Alphabet Z354

Note. It is very likely that the famous space research centre NASA is the Aericanized form of355

Hebraic Ns-h stated above. That is the words are so selected that there abbreviation356

becomes Amaricanized form of Genesic N-S-H

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END OF PART ONE.358

PART TWO:359

And the LORD GOD Said, the man has become one of us , ...360

The Hebraic TEXT in PURE LATIN ALPHABETS and Letters is as361follow:362


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...vnmM dhaC hiH mdA H mihlA HVHI rmI V367


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FIRST PREMILINARY386

The word said is once again a mistranslation. It should be Ordered or387

Commanded.388

And Lord GOD Commanded is a better rather correct translation of Hebraic389

words. Similarly the word in Hebrew Text is

Hv ADAM [mdA vH] and not390

man [rsB]. God knows why the noun ADAN is changed by the word Man and what391

are the motives behind this manupolation. We do suggest a number of reasons but392

a detail discussion is beyond the scope of present topic.He ADAM doemphasise393

ADAM.If GOD Hd used the word

it would be correct to translate it by the word394

MAN, but,God Has Used the word ADAM

and this is a Proper Noun . It395

must be adopted in translation as ADAM.

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The word is used in Genesis eg Gen-6-3.It may be noted that the word397

ASAM may only be translated as man WHEN taking it as Adam contradicteth398

Hebraic Tanach. Only in this condition one can argue that the word ADAM is399

used as a Petaphorical Symbol Of Mankind. Once again it is independent of400

majority or minority of cases.401

Please Keep it in mind once for all times that if the condition is present in a greater402

number of cases and the very same condition is absent in less number of cases, this403

does not changes the principle or rule..404

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Second PRIMILINARY:

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The Hebraic word MIMMANU is translated as One Of Us. This is the Grammatical408First Person Translation. It should be translated as a Grammatical Third Person409

Translation. Eg Like One Of Them Or One Among them, Or Unparrallel among410

them etc.There are atleast 27 places in Hebraic Bible where this word is411

translated as a Third Person translation instead of First Person translation.In such412

places it is not allowed to translate it is the first person translation. One or two413

places are such that there is a possibility of both types of translation. But neither414

of them are certain. Even the Most probable is certainly Not Certain. In matter of415

believes a certain translation is required not an uncertain translation.416


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So this verse can neither prove trinity nor this prove trinity on the basis of choice417

of translations. since even the most probable translation is not certain,and418

necessary condition to prove a Dogma whether the Dogma OF UNITARIANITY419

[Mono-Unity/UNI-UNITY] or Trinity] is certainiity which is not420

fulfiied and not satisfied.421

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THIRD PREMILINARY:423

The word

MIMMANUis a compound word formed by the combination of424

two words a]Mn els are omited]425[nM]. B]H. [Vow

If vovels are inserted then the word may be read as is Min and Hu respectively.426

Mn and Hv 427

If joined they become MINHU [MNH]. [[HnM [[FROM RIGHT TO LFT]428

A NUN nun was added to join them. It became Min-nahu [Mnnhv].429

[vhnnM][[FROM RIGHT TO LFT]430

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Ha or h was changed by n so it become MIN-NA-NU

[Mnnnv].432

[nvnnM][[FROM RIGHT TO LFT]433

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First two Nuns were then changed by mem with a DAGISH.435

So it changed into MIMMANU

[Mmnv].436

[nvnM][[FROM RIGHT TO LFT]437

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From the very origin it is a Grammatical Third Person Pronoun.439

So the better and more accurate translation is as follow>440

I] And the LORD GOD Said, HEADAMhas become one of THEM , to know good441

and [Evil].442

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Ii[And the LORD GOD Commanded,Now [behold]Adam has become one among445

them , to know good and [Evil].446

III]AND IHVH GOD COMMANDED HE ADAM BECAME ONE OF THEM............ 447

IV] AND IHVH GOD [ GOD IHVH] COMMANDED , HE ADAM BECAME [DID BECOME]448

UNIQUE AMONG THEM......449

FOR THOSE WHO LIKE TO RECIEVE MORE HEBRAIC MEANING THE FOLLOWING450

LESS ENGLISH TRANSLATION ARE PRESENTED.451

V] AND IHVH GOD [ GOD IHVH] COMMANDED , HE ADAM BECAME DID BEONE452

OUT OF THOSE/ ONE OUT OF THAT...............453

The word Behold is not present in HEBRAIC SENTENCE OF GENESIS. Yet one is454

supposed to suppose it in sense while reading the text, or to add it in mind while455

reading the text. How ever if some one does not it is equally correct sinse it is456

optional, cont a compulsion..457

It may be noted that there are several plases in Tanach where this word is458

used as third person pronoun.459

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FORTH PRIMILINARY461

The Hebrew word Cahud[dhC] may be translated as Unique, One with462

out Parrall,with out a partner, unparralle only one [among them ] , With Out A463

Compeer.etc.464

So a still better translation is as follow;465

Lord Lord God Commanded [Some one].Now behold Adam is become with out a466

compeer among them by having the Knowledge of Good and Bad [Evil].467

Onkelos explains it as IAHIDI. [ idihaI]

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Fifth Premilinary.471


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If God is talking and conversing in a company of angels, supermundales, spiritual472

and heavenly beings, cherubs, etc God can say One Of Us.473

To claim that God can not include himself among heavenly Suppositums is like474

the claim that God can not incarnate in Iesous to live among people.475

God cansome how manifest among angles, and other heavenly rational476

suppostums with or with out assuming their natures if He can incarnate in human477

beings by assuming human nature to live among human beings.478

So there may be some created and made persons and hypostases not in Divine479

Ousia but out of Divine Ousia.Thus this cannot prove any type of plurality in Divine480

Ousia.481

To Claim that God cannot include Himself among Heavenly Rational Suppositums482

sayAngelic Beings, Supermundales,Spiritual Beings,Spirits, cherubs etc.a claim483

like .S uch a claim that God Cannot484

Assume Angelic Nature but can Assume human nature is like the claim that God485

Cannot Assume Femail human Nature but Can Only Assume Male human Nature.486

Obviously only a dogmatic mind can accept such strange claims. But a Rational487

mind cannot accept such claims. What form of Christology is this that if it is488

claimed


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vhR ptS siA vmsI aL dsA mtpS mS hlbN V hrdN bhH506


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Hebrew wordHabaa is derived from Hebrew word Yihib.This means to Give, to put,530

to place, to depart.531

It is some times used as an Auxilry verb in order to shew motivation or it is used532

to motivate for an act which is to be done.533

It does not imply plurality of Hypostases in Divine Ousia Of Supreme Being. It may534

be the case that God shew his Motivation by using this word and plural form is535

just a Plural Of Majesty. So it only means Let Me Go or Let me Give Or Let me536

Depart etc537

Second Pemilinary.538

If the word Haba conveys the sense of a Self Imperative Verb , then it must be539

known thatno one can commoand God to do an Act. A self command is not a real540

command in particular not a command for God. Thus this implies that the541

sentence cannot be taken literally but figuratively or metaphorically.If even such542

places of Jewish Tanach cannot be taken in Vertual sense then this means that543

there is no Versr intire Bible which can be taken not Literally i.e figuratively or544

metaphorically.545

Athanasians become Literalist when they see literal approach supporst the546

Dogma Of Trinity and Figuratists and Metaphorists if they find547

figurative or metaphorical approach suppors their DOGMA.548

THIRD PREMILINARY.549

This interpretation does not matches with the Dogma which is suppposed to be550

proved from this verse. A very strange case indeed.551

There are only two possible cases if the Dogma Of Tinity is Assumed To Be True.552

EITHER The TRIUNE GOD or GOD THE TRINITY is commanding all the Hypostases553

Existing in the Divine Ousia Of The Triune Trinity or Any One Of The Hypostasis554

living in the Divine Ousia Of TRIUNE GOD is commanding to the rest of neighbour555

Hypostases dwelling in the same Ousia.556

Dogma Of Trinity asserts that these Hypostases can talk and can converse with557

each other and listen to each other if they will so.558

But as each Hypostasis in the Divine Ousia Is God then no one can order or559

command God. In both cases this verse can not be translated literally.560

Thus this is not in real sense or meaning , but in vertual sense or meaning.So in561

either case whether there is a Trinity or Uni-Unity the words of the verse are not562

in the primery meaning.563


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If the word of the verse are not in their real meanings then the verse cannot be564

used to disprove or to prove the Dogma Of Trinity.565

Forth Premilinary.566

It may be the case that God in the company of Angels and Super mundales567wanted to come down . That is he wanted to come down with them and not with568

out them . If it ias argued that it is outb of Angelic and Supermundalic Powers to569

change human minds and to delete their former languagess from their memories570

and to write new languages in the memory of their minds and brains, it can ot571

disprove this rendering of the verse.572

Since it is one of the weak objections of polymics.573

1] If God Is So Omnipotent then Gd Can Give Powers To Angels etc. to do so.574

2] If this Omnipotent God Does not have Omnipotence to to Grant this sort of575

power to Angels and Supermundfales, even then there are certain solutions to576

this problem not necessarilyb the trinitical one.577

1] It is evident from Hebraic Tanach renamed as Hebraic Bible and Grrek578

Septuagint renamed as Old Covenant that Miracles are the WORKS and ACTS of579

GOD EVEN IF THEY ARE SHOWN BY humaqn beings. So the act of changing the580

language was actually the Act of GOD but was shown by Angels accomanying581

GOD during his comming mensioned above. The word let us does shew and only582

shew the Miracles performed by Angels and Supermundales who accompanied583

GOD during the Descension Of GOD AND HEAVENLY BEINGS on the planet earth..584

2] This is some what theological interpretation of the verse.585

In ATHANASIAN Christology it is said that the Human Nature Of Christ is not a586

Person.This Human Nature is almost like a HUMAN PERSON yet it lacks some587

thing so that it fails to be a Person.588

Now Athanasian Christologists have debated since long what is the actual589

difference between a Human Person and the Human Natrure Of Christr which falls590short of being a person. Ifnot a human person then this Human Nature stated591

above is NOT a HUMAN BEING. IUt is still undecided what is the actual difference592

between these two, and Athanasian Theologists anf Christologists are still593

disputing . Yet one thing is certain if the Hypostatic Union ceases then the Human594

Nature Of Christ will immediately upgrade to a human person consequently to a595

human being.596

bUT IF the Hypostatic Union is some how RESTORED the immediate597

consequence is that the Upgraded human person shall immediately revert to the598

Original Human Nature.599


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Ousia.How ever I personally Opine thatr there can be NO HYPOSTASIS IF THERE636

IS NO OUSIA. in the case if there is ONLY ONE HYPOSTASIS in the DIVINE OUSIA637

[Renamed as Godhead for convinence] Then the Ousia is not Distinct From the638

Only Hypostsis which is in it or in which it is or both, and Ousia is Highly639

communicable to the Only Hypostasis. But Ousia is not the Hypostasis since it640is so communicable to the Only Hypiostasis that it does not exist apart from the641

Hypopstasis even if it is Per se subsistent.642

Any how Trinity can not be proved. This interpretation nullify the arguments in643

supoprt of trinity.644

Even the minutest possibility of this interpretation breaks all the arguments from645

this verse in support of trinity ones for all.646

647

648

Notes.There are a number of places in Genesis where the Hebrew text says God649

Commanded, and it is translated as GOD SAID.650

tHE FAMOUS VERSE . And THE GOD SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT MAY ALSO BE651

TRANSLATED AS652

653

654

rvA ihI V rvA ihI mihlA rmaI V655

WARNING. DO NOT TRY TO READ THE HOLY TEXT FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. OTHER WISE IT WILL BE A DISGRACE TO656

THE HOLY TEXT.657

658

AND THE GOD COMMANDED ,' LET THERE BE LIGHT';.659

Or more simply and more correctly660

And God Commanded. Be [ O] Light, AND LIGHT BECAME.661

The sense of the sentence may be manifested in English as follow.662

And God commanded, EXIST [O] LIGHT AND LIGHT EXISTED.663


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The word O in translation does not exit in HEBRAIC TEXT. One must omit it if he wants664

to be more Hebraic. That is why they are written in squire brackets. Omitting them gives665

translations like these given below:666

And God commanded, EXIST ,LIGHT AND LIGHT EXISTED667

OR668

And God commanded, BE , LIGHT AND LIGHT DID BE 669

OR670

And God commanded, BE , LIGHT AND LIGHT BECAME.671

672

673

674

675

676

One may see that such a constant distortion of Hebraic senses and meanings can677

not be unintentionally.678

There must be some motive and some mission behind it. Even if it can be679translated as said instead of commanded, even then it is never informed that an680

other translation is possible.681

The translation Let There be light is according to Trinitical Approach, that is GOD682

is saying to some one that he may let the light to become [or to exist.]But there is683

no Let there be but Be ,Avery direct command , with out the letting of any one684

else, ruling out any possibility of saying to any hypothetical Hypostasis in the685

Ousia Of the Sayer.686

A similar game is played in Yohanon when no translator informs in general that687the Greek word LOGOS may also be translated as Reason.688

Since to translate as In the bigening was the Reason, and Reason Was With the689

God, AND The Reason was [the] God, DOES SHAKES THE OLD CONCEPT690

conceived in minds by translations like In the Begging was the word.691

END OF PART THREE692

Part four.693


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AND EARTH WAS WITOUT FORM AND VOID< AND DARKNESS WAS UPON THA FACE OF DEEP694

[WATER]695

. AND SPIRIT OF GOD WAS MOVING/ BLOWINGTO AND FRO.696

[GENESIS -1-2]697

This verse is deliberately translated incorrect in order to shew that the698

Mentioned Spirit is the Third Hypostasis in the Ousia of Triune GOD of Trinity.]699

THE HEBRAIC TEXT IN HEBREW AND PURE LATIN ALPHABETS AND LETTERS IS700

AS FOLLOW..701

............................................ 702

703

704

705

Mim H inP lA tphrM mihlA hVR V mvhT inP lA xshH V vhB V vhS htiH ssrA.H V706


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A]722

B]One may see the word by word comparesion of the most mistranslated723

part of the verse. See that to translate Spirit Of God Or Wind Or Air Of God724

was moving to and fro is an in correct translation for all times and725

eternities.. What so ever it was -= it was sitting like a bird on the face of726

water not moving at all.[whether it be spirit or wind or air]727

Mim H inP lA tphrM mihlA hvR V728

WARNING. DO NOT TRY TO READ THE HOLY TEXT FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. OTHER729

WISE IT WILL BE A DISGRACE TO THE HOLY TEXT730

V = And V731

Ruhh[Ruh]= wind, air,spirit.ghost,soul hvR 732

Alhim=God mihlA

733

Mrhhpt=To Sit on somelike like a bird sits on its eggs to get them hatch734

tphrM

735

Al= on,upon lA736

Pni= face inP737

H=the H.738

739

Mim= water Mim

740

The construction Ruhh Alhim implies Ruh OfAlohim./Alhim.741

Thus the meaning is as follow.742

Thus the meaning is as follow.743


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[ Like a bird which sits on eggs to get749

them HATCHED] Since there is no750

continuous tense in Hebrew Neither Past751

continuous nor Present Continous. [Itmay not be752

reminded that Future continuous is beyond all753

Hebraic thoughts,since it is the most obvious fact754

of Hebrew language.]and the only possibilities are755

indefinite tense [sit, sat] or active particibles [not756

present participles like sitting, but sitter, or one757

that sits, or one that does sit.It may however be758

noted that Past Participles are in close759

approximation to Passive Participles]760

The Hebraic word Ruh is deliberately kept conserved in the translation since the point is to761

shew the static nature of Ruh, and not the Dynamic nature of It irrespective of the proper762alternative of it.763

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FIRST PRIMILINARY769

770

HOSHIX [XSH] means Darrkess . This means that there was no light771

but there was water etc. The may contemplate that there was no light and the772

Earth was inhabitant. No biological living thing was on Earth.773

No thing could be seen since there was no light to see. Every thing was in774

darkness. But there was earth in its actual form. No thing shews that there was775

no form of Earth. Such a translation is misleading.776

This also shews that there was liquid water [not ice].777

Second preliminary778

The verse does not say that earth was formless and void. In does say it was779

INHABITANT and EMPTY.780

Once again one may sense some trinitical conspiracy behind this sort of781

translation.782

This is to induce the concept of Philosophical Form and Voidness [CHOAS] in783

Genesis which can be used for supporting the DOGMA of Trinity Of GOD.784

Third preliminary.785

The word TUHUM [mvhT] means Water . May be translates as deposits of786

water.But this is less verbal and Water is relatively and comparatively a better787

translation .788

FORTH PRIMILINARY789

The word RUH is translated as Spirit. But it may be translated as AIR or Wind. A790

spirit is neither solid nor liquid nor gas. Even Human Spirits [ghosts] are neither791

solid nor liquid nor gas. But the wind or air does shew gaseous form of matter.792

When compare to Water the liquid form , it is suggested that it is air or wind and793

not the spirit of or souls or ghost.794

So This Air of GOD, OR WIND OF GOD only means that Air5 or wind what so ever it795

might be was not a Suppostum in general and a rational Suppositum in particular796

and certainly Not a Hypostasis residing in the Ouasia Of Triune God with797

neighbouring Hypostases.798

But we shall see that air is more correct translation then wind since Wind is799

blowing air in a particular direction, and it moves from one place to another place800

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just air even if one may translate it as Wind [BLOWING/MOVING AIR IN A802

PATRTICULAR DIRECTION.]803

FIFTH PRIMILINARY804

The Hebrew word MARAPHAT means hatching.805

It is the position of a [female] Bird sitting on her eggs to hatch them. A bird some806

times even swells her body to cover her eggs.807

So Hatcher bird is the true representative of Ruh hence it is some what808

condensed air with some pressure on water since a bird does press her eggs by809

her own weight.810

This is the static Ruh of Hebraic Genesis and the Ruh of translations is dynamic811

since it blows or moves to and fro.812

This is deliberately done just to reject the concept of a Created Ruh [AIR]. The813

concept of Hypostatic Spirit moving to and fro on the face of wather may814

correspond to the movement of Hypostatic Spirit or Ghost when it incarnated in a815

dove by assuming the nature of the bird dove.816

But Ruh is air which has some pressure on the face or surface of Water[s].But817

this air is pressing water and this air is reffered to God. This means that God was818

the creator of this Ruh. The reference of the RUH to God is of creative nature and819

not of hypostatic nature.820

SIXTH PRIMILINARY.821

The word face may be taken as SURFANCE like SUFACE of water instead of face822

of water but if the Hebraic words are concern Face Of Water is preferred over823

Surface of water even if the word surface is more easy to conceive in minds for a824

student of Chemistry or Physics yet Laxitonically FACE IS THE CORRECT825

TRANSLATION.826

Seventh Preliminary827

828

A more close translation close in meaning is as follow,.829

830

AND THE EARTH [ARS] WAS NOT -HABITENT AND831

EMPTY ,AND DARKNESS WAS UPON THE FACE OF832

WATER. AND RUH OF GOD WAS SITTING LIKE A833


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BIRD WHICH HATCHES [HER EGGS]ON THE FACE834

[SURFACE]OF WATER[S]835

Or more Hebraically as:836

AND THE EARTH [ARS] WAS NOT IN-HABITENT837

AND EMPTY ,AND DARKNESS WAS UPON THE838

FACE OF WATER. AND RUH OF GOD SAT LIKE A839

BIRD WHICH HATCHES [HER EGGS]ON THE FACE840

[SURFACE]OF WATER[S].841

IT MAY BE NOTED THAT THERE IS NO842

GRAMMATICAL CONTINOUS TENSE OR VERB IN843

HEBREW. THERE FORE THE BEST ENGLISH844

ALTERNATIVE IS THE INDEFINITE TENSE AND845

MEANING. WHETHER IT BE PAST OR PRESENT OR846

FUTURE.It may be noted that GOD never required a847

continuous tense to Express His Sentences.848

Seventh Preliminary.849

A moving Spirit is more close to trinitical Spirit850

rather than a not moving spirit , that is why the851

dynamic translation is made rejecting the original852

Hebraic word.853

Athanasianism believes that Spirit is a Divine854

Hypostatic Suppoitum . Unitarianisms are divided855

over the issue of the spirit. Some believe that it is856

a created Suppositum, some believe that it is a857


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As it is clear that in trinitical Christology No883

Hypostasis inDivine Ousia Of Triune God has884

power to assume the nature OF AIR OR WIND OR885

WATHER, AND HAS ONLY POWER TO BECOME886

MALE HUMAN BEING By assuming [MALE] human887

nature, AND PERHAPS [MALE]DOVES AS WELL By888

assuming [MALE] Dove Nature .IT IS TRIED TO889

SKIP THE CONSEQUENCES WHICH DOES NOT890

CONCORDM WITH TRINITY AND RELATED891TRNITICAL DOGMAS, THEY HAVE892

MISTRANSLATED THE STATIC RUH OF HEBRAIC893

TEXTY IN FEVOR OF DYNAMIC RUH OF894

TRANSLATIONS. ONCE AGAIN KEEP IN MIND895

ONCE FOR ALL TIMES THAT THE HEBRAIC WORD896

897does not mean To Move To And Fro.898

899

900

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iT MAY BE TRANSLATED AS PLURAL OR SINGULAR DEPENDING UPON THE902

CONTEXT.903

904

,905

.The words SPIRIT and GHOST were once used in almost same sense. But906now a Spirit may be Good or Bad or Neutral. But a ghost is always bad except in907


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the case the word Holy is before it, Such a distinction has made a problem .Since908

it may not be objectionable to a number of persons to call Holy Spirit As Spirit Of909

God, But It may be objectionable to many of them to call HOLY GHOST as Ghost910

Of God.911

It is very interesting to note once for all that even then Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit912

are two English terms used for the one and the same Trinitical Hypostasis as913

according to English believers of Dogma Of Trinity. This is the reason that the914

incorrect translation And Spirit Of God Was Moving To And Fro is never translated915

as And Ghost Of God Was Moving To And Fro.916

But fortunately the word ghost when refers to the founder of Christianity Yeshua917

or Isu still convey a good meaning. One still find about Yeshua /Iesus that He gave918

up the Ghost, instead of he gave up the Spirit. But once again the reason to keep919

this word is to save believers in the Trinitical Dogma from believing that Issus920gave up the Ruh Of Elohem OR The Pnuma Of Theos mensioned in their921

translation of Genesis.922

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