AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Fundamentals NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Wednesday, May 22, 2013 Thursday, May 23, 2013 DoubleTree Hotel San Diego Downtown 1646 Front Street San Diego, California 1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order by Chair Chip Carson at 8:00 a.m. on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at the DoubleTree Hotel, San Diego, California. 2. Self-introduction of Committee Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, see pg. 2. 3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Approve the May 23-24, 2012 meeting minutes, pg. 5. 4. The New Process. See handouts from PowerPoint presentation, pg. 8. 5. Definitions Task Group. See pg. 19. 6. Hazardous Materials Task Group. See pg. 20. 7. Multi Hazards Task Group. The task group consisting of Norm Groner – Chair, Amy Cheng, Scott Laramee and Jake Pauls was retained on the agenda. 8. NFPA 101 Chapter 2 Reference to NFPA 400. See pg. 21. 9. NFPA 101 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed before the meeting date. 10. NFPA 5000 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed before the meeting date. 11. Other Business. 12. Adjournment. Enclosures Page 1 of 21
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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Fundamentals
NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Wednesday, May 22, 2013 Thursday, May 23, 2013
DoubleTree Hotel San Diego Downtown 1646 Front Street
San Diego, California
1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order by Chair Chip Carson at 8:00 a.m. on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at the DoubleTree Hotel, San Diego, California.
2. Self-introduction of Committee Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, see pg. 2.
3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Approve the May 23-24, 2012 meeting minutes, pg. 5.
4. The New Process. See handouts from PowerPoint presentation, pg. 8.
5. Definitions Task Group. See pg. 19.
6. Hazardous Materials Task Group. See pg. 20.
7. Multi Hazards Task Group. The task group consisting of Norm Groner – Chair, Amy
Cheng, Scott Laramee and Jake Pauls was retained on the agenda.
8. NFPA 101 Chapter 2 Reference to NFPA 400. See pg. 21.
9. NFPA 101 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed before the meeting date.
10. NFPA 5000 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be
distributed before the meeting date.
11. Other Business.
12. Adjournment.
Enclosures
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Address List No PhoneFundamentals SAF-FUN
Safety to Life
Ron Coté03/27/2013
SAF-FUNWayne G. CarsonChairCarson Associates, Inc.35 Horner Street, Suite 120Warrenton, VA 20186-3415
SE 1/1/1988SAF-FUN
Ron CotéSecretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
1/1/1991
SAF-FUNFarid AlfawakhiriPrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute380 Cottonwood LaneNaperville, IL 60540Alternate: Jonathan Humble
M 7/23/2008SAF-FUN
Andrew BlumPrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715Alternate: Richard T. Long, Jr.
SE 8/2/2010
SAF-FUNAmy Y. ChengPrincipalClark County Department of Development ServicesPlans Examination Division4701 West Russell RoadLas Vegas, NV 89118
E 10/23/2003SAF-FUN
Salvatore DiCristinaPrincipalRutgers, The State University of New Jersey82 Street 1603, Livingston CampusPiscataway, NJ 08854
E 4/15/2004
SAF-FUNHelen DiPietroPrincipalNorth Carolina Department of InsuranceOffice of State Fire MarshalMail Service Center 1202Raleigh, NC 27699-1202Alternate: Robert A. Speed
E 03/05/2012SAF-FUN
Tod DoeblerPrincipalMenomonee Falls Fire DepartmentW140 N7501 Lilly RoadMenomonee Falls, WI 53051International Fire Marshals Association
E 03/05/2012
SAF-FUNRobert J. EugenePrincipalUL LLC121 Woodard RoadNewport, WA 99156
RT 10/6/2000SAF-FUN
David W. FrablePrincipalUS General Services AdministrationPublic Buildings Service665 Green Meadow LaneGeneva, IL 60134
U 10/27/2009
SAF-FUNMarshall J. GaubertPrincipalJefferson Parish Fire Department6005 Ruth StreetMetairie, LA 70003
E 10/20/2010SAF-FUN
Michael O. GencarelliPrincipalUS Department of the NavyNAVFAC HQ: Medical Facilities Design Office (MDFO)1322 Patterson Avenue, Suite 1000Washington, DC 20374
E 10/18/2011
SAF-FUNRalph D. GerdesPrincipalRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227American Institute of Architects
SE 10/28/2008SAF-FUN
Norman E. GronerPrincipalJohn Jay College of Criminal JusticeDepartment of Protection Management445 West 59th Street Rm 3530NNew York, NY 10019
SE 4/16/1999
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Address List No PhoneFundamentals SAF-FUN
Safety to Life
Ron Coté03/27/2013
SAF-FUNMorgan J. HurleyPrincipalSociety of Fire Protection Engineers7315 Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 620EBethesda, MD 20814
U 10/10/1998SAF-FUN
David J. JacobyPrincipalSimpson Gumpertz & Heger19 West 34th Street, Suite 1000New York, NY 10001
SE 7/14/2004
SAF-FUNDavid P. KleinPrincipalUS Department of Veterans Affairs810 Vermont Avenue, NW, Suite 800Mail Code: (10NA8)Washington, DC 20420
U 4/1/1995SAF-FUN
Scott T. LarameePrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation5000 Executive Parkway, Suite 340San Ramon, CA 94583
I 10/27/2009
SAF-FUNJames K. LathropPrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.81 Pennsylvania AvenueNiantic, CT 06357Alternate: Sharon S. Gilyeat
SE 7/1/1995SAF-FUN
Vickie J. LovellPrincipalInterCode Incorporated200 NE 2nd Avenue, Suite 309Delray Beach, FL 33444Alliance for Fire & Smoke Containment & Control, Inc.
M 08/09/2012
SAF-FUNJack McNamaraPrincipalBosch Security Systems130 Perinton ParkwayFairport, NY 14450-9199National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: William P. Adams
M 3/1/2011SAF-FUN
Ricardo MurgaPrincipalUS Department of Health & Human ServicesPhoenix Area Indian Health ServiceTwo Renaissance Square40 North Central Ave., Suite 720Phoenix, AZ 85004
E 8/9/2011
SAF-FUNJake PaulsPrincipalJake Pauls Consulting Services in Building Use & Safety12507 Winexburg Manor Drive, Suite 201Silver Spring, MD 20906American Public Health Association
C 7/12/2001SAF-FUN
Dennis L. PittsPrincipalAmerican Wood Council1721 West Plano Parkway, #224Plano, TX 75075American Forest & Paper AssociationAlternate: Rodney A. McPhee
M 10/27/2009
SAF-FUNMilosh T. PuchovskyPrincipalWorcester Polytechnic InstituteDepartment of Fire Protection Engineering100 Institute RoadWorcester, MA 01609
SE 8/5/2009SAF-FUN
Rodger ReiswigPrincipalTyco/SimplexGrinnell3640 Haddington CourtApopka, FL 32712Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: Thomas P. Hammerberg
M 3/2/2010
SAF-FUNPatrick S. SabaPrincipalHewlett Packard Company1707 Ritchie HighwayAnnapolis, MD 21409
M 3/1/2011SAF-FUN
Victoria B. ValentinePrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563Alternate: Jeffrey M. Hugo
M 10/23/2003
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Address List No PhoneFundamentals SAF-FUN
Safety to Life
Ron Coté03/27/2013
SAF-FUNSteven F. WydeveldPrincipalWydeveld Construction & Consulting, Inc.23541 South Saddle Creek DriveManhattan, IL 60442
SE 10/23/2003SAF-FUN
William P. AdamsAlternateApollo America2479 Peachtree Road NE, Unit 1101Atlanta, GA 30305National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Jack McNamara
M 3/1/2011
SAF-FUNSharon S. GilyeatAlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Principal: James K. Lathrop
SE 10/20/2010SAF-FUN
Thomas P. HammerbergAlternateAutomatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.14 Sammy McGhee Boulevard, #103PO Box 1569Jasper, GA 30143Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Rodger Reiswig
M 3/2/2010
SAF-FUNJeffrey M. HugoAlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.1088 West Borton RoadEssexville, MI 48732National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Victoria B. Valentine
M 03/07/2013SAF-FUN
Jonathan HumbleAlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute45 South Main Street, Suite 312West Hartford, CT 06107-2402American Iron and Steel InstitutePrincipal: Farid Alfawakhiri
M 03/05/2012
SAF-FUNRichard T. Long, Jr.AlternateExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715Principal: Andrew Blum
SE 10/18/2011SAF-FUN
Rodney A. McPheeAlternateCanadian Wood Council99 Bank Street, Suite 400Ottawa, ON K1P 6B9 CanadaAmerican Forest & Paper AssociationPrincipal: Dennis L. Pitts
M 10/6/2000
SAF-FUNRobert A. SpeedAlternateNorth Carolina Office of the State Fire MarshalEngineering Division, Evaluation Services Section322 Chapanoke RoadRaleigh, NC 27603Principal: Helen DiPietro
SAF-FUNSteven OrlowskiNonvoting MemberNational Association of Home Builders1201 15th Street, NWWashington, DC 20005-2800
U 10/18/2011SAF-FUN
Ron CotéStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
1/1/1991
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BLD/SAF‐FUN5‐2012FIRSTDRAFTMeetingMinutes/Page1
NFPA Technical Committee on Fundamentals NFPA 101 and NPFA 5000 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday-Thursday, May 23-24, 2012 Indianapolis Convention Center
Indianapolis, IN
1. Call to Order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Chip Carson at 8:00 a.m. on May 23, 2012 at the Indianapolis Convention Center, Indianapolis, IN.
2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests. TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT
NAME COMPANY Wayne Chip Carson, Chair Carson Associates, Inc. Ron Cote, Secretary – Nonvoting National Fire Protection Association William Adams Alt. to Jack McNamara
Apollo America Rep: National Electrical Manufacturers Assn.
Andrew Blum, Principal Exponent, Inc. Amy Cheng, Principal Clark County Department of Development
Services Salvatore DiCristina, Principal Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Tod Doebler, Voting Alternate to IFMA Rep.
Menomonsee Falls Fire Department Rep: International Fire Marshals Association
Helen DiPietro, Principal North Carolina Department of Insurance Joshua Elvove, Principal US General Services Administration Robert Eugene, Principal UL LLC Ralph Gerdes, Principal Ralph Gerdes Consultants, LLC
Rep: American Institute of Architects Norman Groner, Principal John Jay College of Criminal Justice Jonathan Humble Alt. to Farid Alfawakhiri
American Iron and Steel Institute
Morgan Hurley, Principal Society of Fire Protection Engineers David Klein, Principal US Department of Veterans Affairs Scott Laramee, Principal Aon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation James Lathrop, Principal Koffel Associates, Inc. Jack McNamara, Principal Bosch Security Systems
Rep: National Electrical Manufacturers Assn. Ricardo Murga, Principal US Department of Health & Human Services
Steven Orlowski, Nonvoting Member National Association of Home Builders
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Jake Pauls, Principal Jake Pauls Consulting Services in Building Use & Safety Rep: American Public Health Association
Dennis Pitts, Principal American Wood Council Rep: American Forest & Paper Association
Milosh Puchovsky, Principal Worcester Polytechnic Institute Rodger Reiswig, Principal Tyco/SimplexGrinnell
Rep: Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. GUESTS
NAME COMPANY Allan Fraser NFPA Tracy Golinveaux NFPA Robert Harmeyer NFPA TC on Health Care Occupancies Jonathan Hart NFPA Jeff Hugo National Fire Sprinkler Association Shelley Siegel, FASID American Society of Interior Designers Robert Solomon NFPA Robert A. Speed NC Department of Insurance
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
NAME COMPANY
Michael Ashley, Voting Alternate to AFSCC Rep.
Alliance for Fire & Smoke Containment & Control
Marshall Gaubert, Principal Jefferson Parish Fire Department Michael Gencarelli, Principal US Department of the Navy Patrick Saba, Principal Hewlett Packard Company Stephen Skalko, Principal Portland Cement Association Victoria Valentine, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association Inc. Steven Wydeveld, Principal Wydeveid Construction & Consulting Inc.
3. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes. The October 6, 2010 meeting minutes were approved as written and distributed.
4. The New Process Review. The new process was reviewed and then used throughout the
meeting to address Public Input and generate First Revisions.
5. Multi Hazards (other than fire) Task Group Report. The task group reported. Task group to be retained on agenda. [Norm Groner – Chair, Amy Cheng, Scott Laramee and Jake Pauls].
6. Correlating Committee Wish List for 2015 Editions. The list, as received from the Correlating Committees, was reviewed. First revisions were created relative to updating annex text and permitting an occupancy separation to be created by an atrium.
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7. NFPA 5000 Changes Needed for Correlation with NFPA 101. Needed First revisions created.
8. NFPA 101 First Draft (formerly ROP) Preparation. First Draft preparation done with Public Inputs answered and First Revisions created.
9. NFPA 5000 First Draft (formerly ROP) Preparation. First Draft preparation done with Public Inputs answered and First Revisions created.
10. Other Business. Norm Groner agreed to draft requests, for Chair Carson’s consideration and official submittal, to Fire Protection Research Foundation for research on people movement and multi-hazards issues.
11. Future Meeting. The committee’s Second Draft preparation meeting is tentatively
scheduled for the week of May 20-23, 2013.
12. Adjournment. On Wednesday, May 23 the meeting was recessed at 5:00 p.m. On Thursday, May 24 the meeting was reconvened at 8:00 a.m. and adjourned at 12:00 p.m.
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NFPA 101/5000FUNDAMENTALS
COMMITTEE
May 22-23, 2013
San Diego, CA
COMMITTEE
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At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with your safety
If the fire alarm sounds, pleaseIf the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit
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Members, please verify/update your contact information
Use of tape recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatimcapable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this meeting is not permitted
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GuestsAll guests are asked to sign in and
identify their affiliations
Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee
Other participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair
Guest seating is located around the room
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Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category must declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting, both in the meeting and on the ballot item
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General ProceduresFollow Robert’s Rules of Order
Di i i tiDiscussion requires a motion
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Motions for Ending Debate - Move Previous Question or “Call the Question”Not in order when another has the floor
Requires a second
This motion is not debatable and does not automatically stop debate
A 2/3 affirmative vote immediately closes debate and returns to the original motion on the floor
Less then 2/3 allows debate to continue
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Committee member actions:
Member addresses the chair Receives recognition from the chair I t d th ti Introduces the motion Another member seconds the
motion
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Committee chair actions:
States the motionCalls for discussionEnsures all issues have been heardTakes the voteAnnounces the result of the vote
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Technical Committee on FundamentalsConsumer, 1 Member: 4%
Enforcer, 7 Members: 25%
Insurance, 1 Member: 4%
Manufacturer, 7 Members: 25%
Research & Testing, 1 Member: 4%
Special Expert, 8 Members: 29%
User, 3 Members: 11%
Installer/Maintainer, 0 Members: 0%
Labor, 0 Members: 0%
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Timeline
Comment Stage (Second Draft):Public Comment Closing Date: 05/03/2013Second Draft Meeting: TodayPosting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 01/03/2014
Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Documents with CAM: 08/14/2014 edition date
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Changes in Terms:New Term Old Term
Comment Stage ROC Stage
Public Comment Public Comment
Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting
Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted
Public Comment
Committee Comment(a Second Revision that failed
ballot)
(a Comment reported as Rejected due to failed ballot)
Second Draft Report ROC
Second Draft ROC Draft
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• Technical Committee Actions:
Resolving Public CommentsResolving Public Comments Committee Action and Committee Statement
Creating Second Revisions
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• Resolving Public Comments (See Regs §4.4.8.1)Committee develops a Committee Action Accept
Reject but see…
Reject
Reject but Hold
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• Committee StatementsCommittee must clearly indicate reasons for not
accepting the recommendation and/or point to a relevant Second RevisionAll Public Comments Actions must have a
Committee StatementCommittee StatementMust include a valid technical reasonNo vague references to “intent”Explain how the submitter’s substantiation is
inadequateNeither Public Comment Actions nor Committee
Statements get balloted
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• Create a Second Revision (SR)Committee wants to make a change (to
add, delete or modify) the First Draft
Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change
Each SR gets balloted
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No “new material” after the Public Input Stage since it hasn’t had the benefit of public review
What constitutes new material is decided by th T h i l C itt C l tithe Technical Committee or Correlating Committee
Adding “new material” at the Comment Stage could successfully be challenged through appeal to the Standards Council
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Formal voting Voting during meeting is used to
establish a sense of agreement (simple majority)(simple majority)
Secured by letter ballot (2/3 agreement)Only the results of the formal ballot
determine the official position of the committee on the Second Draft
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Ballots are on the Second Revisions (SR) ONLYPublic Comment Actions and Committee
Statements not ballotedReference materials are available - Second Draft, Public Comments, First Draft Report
Ballot form allows you to vote: Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all SRAffirmative on all SR with exceptions specifically
noted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative
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Initial ballot
Circulation of negatives and comments
Members may change votes during circulationcirculation
Second Revision that fails letter ballot is designated as a Committee Comment (in the 2nd Draft Report), marked as “Reject” and deleted from the Second Draft.
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If a Second Revision fails ballot and the subject text was a result of a First Draft change, a Supplementary Ballot is conducted
Ballot asks TC if it still favors the First Revision change reported in the First DraftIf Y h S d If Yes, same change appears as Second Revision and is shown in the Second Draft
If No, the change appears as a Committee Comment (rejected) and the Second Draft text reverts to previous edition
See Regs §4.4.10.2.1
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Electronic Balloting Electronic Balloting • Ballots will be an online format• Alternates are strongly encouraged
to return ballots
• Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes
• Use “submit” to save your work
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Click link on the ballot email received
Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password
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Select either Affirmative on All or Affirmative with Exception(s)
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Use “See FR/SR - #” link to review all First/Second Revisions
Use “Edit election” to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot
Choosing AFFIRMATIVE ON ALL
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Make selection: Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain
No selection made-defaults to affirmative Must include comment on each vote
Choosing AFFIRMATIVE WITH EXCEPTION(S)
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To complete ballot click Participant Consent and Submit
Return and edit any votes before ballot due date
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Code Fund Lends a Hand
• TC rep and/or staff liaison submits a C d F d
Research Project Carried Out
• Funding for project is provided by th C d F demerging
issue• Two opposing
views on an issue with no real data
• Data presented is not trusted by committee
Code Fund Request
• Requests are reviewed by a Panel and chosen based on need / feasibility
the Code Fund and/or industry sponsors
• Project is completed and data is available to TC
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Antitrust: the single most important provision- Federal law prohibits contracts, combinations, or conspiracies which unreasonably restrain trade or commerce Section 1 of the Sherman Act
Patent: Disclosures of essential patent claims should be made by the patent holder, but others may also notify NFPA if they believe that a proposed or existing NFPA standard includes an essential patent claim
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Hiding commercial interest throwing the committees out of balance
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Document Information
• Document scope• Current/Previous
Edition information• Issued TIAs, FIs and
Errata
Next Edition
• Submit Public Input/Comments via Electronic Submission System.
• Meetings and Ballots
Technical Committee
• Committee name, responsibility and scope
• Staff liaison• Committee list
• Archived revision information
• Standard Council Decisions
• Articles and Reports• Read only document
• ROP/ROC or First Draft Report and Second Draft Report
• NITMAM and Standard Council Decisions
• Private TC info• Ballot circulations,
informational ballots and other committee info
• Private committee contact information
• Current committee documents in PDF format
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Cote, Ron
From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:33 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: SAF Agenda Item for Second Draft Meetings
Please add the subject of Definitions to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the definitions task group. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:
Definitions. The committee agreed to have each defined term assigned to a specific technical committee so that committee would have responsibility for the maintenance and revision of such term. A task group is to be formed after the Second Draft meetings of the current revision cycle. The task group will report to the Correlating Committee (CC) its recommendations for the definitions assignments in time for the CC to review the recommendations at its first meeting of the 2018 revision cycle. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the task group.
Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA
Please add the subject of Hazardous Areas to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee is asked to decide whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:
Hazardous Materials. Jeff Tubbs raised the issue of whether NFPA 101 should address hazardous materials (as done in NFPA 5000 Chapter 34). The committee noted that health hazards are not within the scope of NFPA 101. Conflicts exist among the NFPA codes. It was agreed to:
o Add the subject of hazardous materials to the agenda for all NFPA 101 technical committee Second Draft meetings
o Gather comments from each technical committee including whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials
o Report results to the Correlating Committee at its Second Draft review meeting o Ask the Standards Council, after the Correlating Committee’s Second Draft meeting, to
establish a task group from the membership of the NFPA 1, 30, 101, 400 and 5000 committees to address conflicts and overlapping requirements related to hazardous materials
Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA
Editorial error. I’ll make a note to get the NFPA 400 reference added to Chapter 2 via the new Terra system during the 2nd draft meetings so the same mistake doesn’t happen for the 2015 edition. Relative to the 2012 edition, it’s easy to explain that it is NFPA policy to cite the NFPA referenced publication edition as the most current available when NFPA 101‐2012 went to press. That means that NFPA 400‐2010 is what is intended. Luckily NFPA 400’s full title, and not just the number, appears in 36/37.4.5.3. Thanks for reporting the error. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA
From: Dolan, James Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:16 PM To: Cote, Ron Subject: NFPA 101 2012 Hi Ron, We reference NFPA 400 in chapter 36—see below, but the document is not listed in chapter 2. 36.4.5.3 Storage, Arrangement, Protection, and Quantities of Hazardous Commodities. The storage, arrangement, protection, and quantities of hazardous commodities shall be in accordance with the applicable provisions of the following: (1) The fire code (see 3.3.94) (2) NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems (3) NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code (4) NFPA 30B, Code for the Manufacture and Storage of Aerosol Products (5) NFPA 400, Hazardous Materials Code, Chapter 14, for organic peroxide formulations (6) NFPA 400, Hazardous Materials Code, Chapter 15, for oxidizer solids and liquids (7) NFPA 400, Hazardous Materials Code, various chapters, depending on characteristics of a particular pesticide (8) NFPA1124, Code for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage, and Retail Sales of Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles 36.4.5.4 Detection, Alarm, and Communications Systems. Thanks. Jim Dolan NFPA 732.492.8397