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A spin foam model for general Lorentzian 4–geometries Florian Conrady Perimeter Institute Zakopane, Poland February 28, 2010 FC, Jeff Hnybida, arXiv:1002.1959 [gr-qc] Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 1 / 42
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Page 1: A spin foam model for general Lorentzian 4 …jpa/qgqg3/FlorianConrady.pdfA spin foam model for general Lorentzian 4–geometries Florian Conrady Perimeter Institute Zakopane, Poland

A spin foam model for general Lorentzian 4–geometries

Florian Conrady

Perimeter Institute

Zakopane, PolandFebruary 28, 2010

FC, Jeff Hnybida, arXiv:1002.1959 [gr-qc]

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 1 / 42

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Outline

1 Motivation

2 Quantum simplicity constraints for general Lorentzian geometries

3 Spin foam model

4 Summary

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 2 / 42

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Motivation

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 3 / 42

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Main innovations of the last years

EPRL Engle, Livine, Pereira, Rovelli, Nucl.Phys.B799,2008

master constraint

→ EPRL model

correct coupling between 4–simplices

relation to canonical LQG

Coherent states Livine, Speziale, Phys.Rev.D76:084028,2007

simplicity constraints on expectation values

geometric understanding of intertwiners

→ FK model Freidel, Krasnov, Class.Quant.Grav.25:125018,2008

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Motivation 1

It has been shown by explicit comparison that EPRL and FK model arevery similar, but . . .

Question

How exactly are the master constraint andcoherent state approach related?

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Motivation 2

There is a Lorentzian EPRL model, but . . .

Geometries are restricted

In the Lorentzian EPRL model all trianglesare spacelike.

3d analogy

3d triangulation, where all linksare spacelike.

Coupling to Maxwell field

There is always a local frame inwhich the field is purely magnetic!

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What we found

1 Simplicity constraints of EPRL can beequivalently understood in terms ofconditions on coherent states.

2 Using this method we extended the EPRLmodel to general Lorentzian 4–geometries.

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Quantum simplicity constraints for general Lorentziangeometries

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Transition from BF theory to gravity

Action of BF theory:

S =

J ∧ F =

∫ (

B ∧ F +1

γ⋆ B ∧ F

)

Impose simplicity constraints such that B becomes

B = ⋆(E ∧ E ) .

Convenient to call the total bivector J, since it corresponds to thegenerator of SO(1,3) in the spin foam model.

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Classical simplicity constraints

Simplicity constraint: ∃ unit four–vector U such that

U · ⋆B = 0 .

From this it follows that

⋆B = E1 ∧ E2 , U · E1 = U · E2 = 0 ,

or equivalently

B = A U ∧ N , |N2| = 1 , U · N = N · E1 = N · E2 = 0 .

A is the area of the parallelogram spanned by E1 and E2.

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Classical simplicity constraints

In a discrete setting, these quantities assume the following meaning:

⋆B area bivector of triangle

E1, E2 edges of triangle

N unit normal vector of triangle

U unit normal vector of tetrahedron

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Classical simplicity constraints

Express B in terms of the total bivector J:

B =γ2

γ2 + 1

(

J − 1

γ⋆ J

)

Starting point for quantization:

U ·(

J − 1

γ⋆ J

)

= 0

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 13 / 42

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 13 / 42

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

coherent states coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 13 / 42

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint master constraint

coherent states coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

Florian Conrady (PI) SF model for general Lorentzian geometries Zakopane 2010 13 / 42

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint master constraint master constraint

coherent states coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

gauge–fix U = (1, 0, 0, 0) U = (0, 0, 0, 1) U = (0, 0, 0, 1)

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

gauge–fix U = (1, 0, 0, 0) U = (0, 0, 0, 1) U = (0, 0, 0, 1)

littlegroup

SO(3) SO(1,2) SO(1,2)

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Different cases

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

gauge–fix U = (1, 0, 0, 0) U = (0, 0, 0, 1) U = (0, 0, 0, 1)

littlegroup

SU(2) SU(1,1) SU(1,1)

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Representation theory

SL(2, C) SU(2)

generators J i , K i J1, J2, J3

Casimirs C1 = ~J2 − ~K 2

C2 = −4~J · ~K

~J2

unitaryirreps

H(ρ,n) Dj

ρ ∈ R, n ∈ Z+ j ∈ Z+/2

C1 = 12 (n2 − ρ2 − 4)

C2 = ρn

~J2 = j(j + 1)

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Representation theory

SU(2) SU(1,1)

generators J1, J2, J3 J3, K 1, K 2

Casimirs ~J2 Q = (J3)2 − (K 1)2 − (K 2)2

discrete series continuous series

unitaryirreps

Dj D±

j Cǫ

s

j ∈ Z+/2 j = 12 , 1, 3

2 . . . j = − 12 + is,

0 < s < ∞

~J2 = j(j + 1) Q = j(j − 1) Q = −s2 − 14

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SU(2) decomposition of SL(2, C) irrep

Canonical basis

H(ρ,n) ≃∞⊕

j=n/2

Dj1(ρ,n) =

∞∑

j=n/2

j∑

m=−j

|Ψj m〉 〈Ψj m|

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SU(1,1) decomposition of SL(2, C) irrep

H(ρ,n) ≃

n/2⊕

j>0

D+j ⊕

∞∫

0

ds Cǫs

n/2⊕

j>0

D−

j ⊕∞∫

0

ds Cǫs

1(ρ,n) =

n/2∑

j>0

∞∑

m=j

∣∣∣Ψ+

j m

⟩ ⟨

Ψ+j m

∣∣∣ +

n/2∑

j>0

∞∑

−m=j

∣∣∣Ψ−

j m

⟩ ⟨

Ψ−

j m

∣∣∣

+

∞∫

0

ds µǫ(s)∞∑

±m=ǫ

∣∣∣Ψ

(1)s m

⟩ ⟨

Ψ(1)s m

∣∣∣

+

∞∫

0

ds µǫ(s)∞∑

±m=ǫ

∣∣∣Ψ

(2)s m

⟩ ⟨

Ψ(2)s m

∣∣∣

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General scheme for quantization

Translate bivectors of triangles to quantum states in irreps

Simplicity constraint → constraints on states

Four quantum states → tetrahedron

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First case: normal U timelike

timelike U

In the gauge U = (1, 0, 0, 0), the simplicity constraint takes the form

~J +1

γ~K = 0

The little group is SU(2), so we use states of the SU(2) decomposition!

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Coherent state method

We look for quantum states that mimic classical bivectors as closely aspossible.

Conditions

1 The expectation value of the bivector operator issimple.∗

2 The uncertainty in the bivector is minimal.

* inspired by FK model

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Coherent state method for SU(2) case

In the SU(2) case, we require the existence of quantum states such that

∆J

|~J|= O

1

|~J|

〈~J〉 +1

γ〈~K 〉 = O(1)

∆K

|~K |= O

1

|~K |

〈 〉 denotes the expectation value w.r.t. the state, and |~J| ≡ |〈~J〉| etc.

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SU(2) Coherent states

The first condition leads to SU(2) coherent states:

|j g〉 ≡ D j(g)|j j〉 , g ∈ SU(2) ,

|j ~N〉 ≡ D j(g(~N))|j j〉 , ~N ∈ S2 ≃ SU(2)/U(1) .

Perelomov, Comm.Math.Phys.26,1972

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Simplicity of expectation valuesThe second condition

〈~J〉 +1

γ〈~K 〉 = O(1)

gives

j +1

γ

(

−jρ n

4j(j + 1)

)

= 0

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Simplicity of expectation valuesThe second condition

〈~J〉 +1

γ〈~K 〉 = O(1)

gives

4γj(j + 1) = ρn

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Simplicity of expectation valuesThe second condition

〈~J〉 +1

γ〈~K 〉 = O(1)

gives

4γj(j + 1) = ρn

or equivalently

〈~J2〉 =1

γ2〈~K 2〉 + O(|~J|) ,

〈~J2〉 = −1

γ〈~J · ~K 〉 .

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Minimal uncertainty in ~K

The third condition involves the uncertainty in ~K :

(∆K )2 = 〈~K 2〉 − 〈~K 〉2 = 〈~J2〉 − 1

2C1 − 〈K 〉2 .

By inserting the previous two eqns. this can be rewritten as

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Minimal uncertainty in ~K

The third condition involves the uncertainty in ~K :

(∆K )2 = 〈~K 2〉 − 〈~K 〉2 = 〈~J2〉 − 1

2C1 − 〈K 〉2 .

By inserting the previous two eqns. this can be rewritten as

(∆K )2 = −1

γ(1 − γ2)~J · ~K − 1

2C1 + O(|~J |)

= −γ

4

[(

1 − 1

γ2

)

C2 +2

γC1

]

+ O(|~J|)

= −γ

4B · ⋆B + O(|~J|) .

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Minimal uncertainty in ~K

The third condition involves the uncertainty in ~K :

(∆K )2 = 〈~K 2〉 − 〈~K 〉2 = 〈~J2〉 − 1

2C1 − 〈K 〉2 .

By inserting the previous two eqns. this can be rewritten as

(∆K )2 = −γ

4B · ⋆B + O(|~J |)

=1

4

(

ρ − γn)(

ρ +n

γ

)

+ O(|~J|) .

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Result

Altogether we get the conditions

4γj(j + 1) = ρn

(

ρ − γn)(

ρ +n

γ

)

= 0

which have the approximate solution

ρ = γn j = n/2

These are the EPRL constraints!

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Coherent state and master constraint method

The EPRL constraints are equivalent to the existence ofsemiclassical simple bivector states!

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New cases: normal U spacelike

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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New cases: normal U spacelike

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint

coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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New cases: normal U spacelike

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

method master constraint master constraint

coherent states coherent states

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Spacelike U

In the gauge U = (0, 0, 0, 1), the simplicity constraint becomes

~F +1

γ~G = 0

where

~F ≡

J3

K 1

K 2

and ~G ≡

K 3

−J1

−J2

.

The little group is SU(1,1), so we use states of the SU(1,1)decomposition!

~F and ~G transform like 3d Minkowski vectors under SU(1,1).

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Spacelike vs. timelike triangles

Classically, the normal ~N to the triangle is given by

A

N0

N1

N2

= γ

F 0

F 2

−F 1

.

Hence

discrete series Q = ~F 2 > 0 −→ ~N2 = 1 triangle spacelike

continuous series Q = ~F 2 < 0 −→ ~N2 = −1 triangle timelike

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Spacelike vs. timelike triangles

Classically, the normal ~N to the triangle is given by

A

N0

N1

N2

= γ

F 0

F 2

−F 1

.

Hence

discrete series Q = ~F 2 > 0 −→ ~N2 = 1 triangle spacelike

continuous series Q = ~F 2 < 0 −→ ~N2 = −1 triangle timelike

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Master constraint method for timelike triangles

B · ⋆B = 0 diagonal constraint

M = (⋆B)3i (⋆B)3i = 0 master constraint

In terms of ~F and ~G the master constraint becomes(

1 +1

γ2

)

~F 2 − 1

2γ2C1 −

1

2γC1 = 0 .

By inserting the diagonal constraint into this one obtains

4γ~F 2 = C2 .

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Master constraint method for timelike triangles

In the case of the continuous series, the constraints are therefore

(

ρ − γn)(

ρ +n

γ

)

= 0

−4γ

(

s2 +1

4

)

= ρ n

Solution

ρ = − nγ s2 = 1

4

(n2

γ2 − 1)

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Discrete area spectrum of timelike triangles

A = γ√−Q = γ

s2 + 1/4 = n/2

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Table of constraints

normal U

timelike U

spacelike

U

spacelike

U

triangle spacelike spacelike timelike

little group SU(2) SU(1,1) SU(1,1)

relevantirreps

Dj D±

j Cǫ

s

constr. on (ρ, n) ρ = γn ρ = γn n = −γρ

constr. on irreps j = n/2 j = n/2 s2 + 1/4 = ρ2/4

area spectrum γ√

j(j + 1) γ√

j(j − 1) γ√

s2 + 1/4 = n/2

︸ ︷︷ ︸

EPRL

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Spin foam model

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Spin foam model for general Lorentzian geometries

Complex:

simplicial complex ∆: 4–simplex σ, tetrahedron τ , triangles t, . . .

dual complex ∆∗: vertex v , edge e, face f , . . .

Variables (same as in EPRL):

connection ge ∈ SL(2, C)

irrep label nf ∈ Z+

Additional variables:

Ue = (1, 0, 0, 0) or (0, 0, 0, 1): normal of tetrahedron dual to e

ζf = ±1: spacelike/timelike triangle dual to f

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Spin foam model for general Lorentzian geometries

P

P PP

P

f

ev v ′

BF theory Af ((ρ, n); gev ) = tr

[∏

e⊂f

D(ρ,n)(gve)1(ρ,n)D(ρ,n)(gev ′)

]

Af ((ρ, n), ζ;Ue ; gev ) = limδ→0

tr

[∏

e⊂f

D(ρ,n)(gve)P(ρ,n),ζ,Ue(δ)D(ρ,n)(gev ′)

]

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Spin foam model for general Lorentzian geometries

P

P PP

P

f

ev v ′

BF theory Af ((ρ, n); gev ) = tr

[∏

e⊂f

D(ρ,n)(gve)1(ρ,n)D(ρ,n)(gev ′)

]

Af ((ρ, n), ζ;Ue ; gev ) = limδ→0

tr

[∏

e⊂f

D(ρ,n)(gve)P(ρ,n),ζ,Ue(δ)D(ρ,n)(gev ′)

]

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Projector onto allowed irrep

The projector P(ρ,n),ζ,Ue(δ) projects onto the irreps permitted by the

simplicity constraints.

Subtlety for continuous series:states not normalizable → smearing with wavefunction required!

Pǫs (δ) =

α=1,2

±m=ǫ

∞∫

0

ds ′ µǫ(s′) fδ(s

′ − s)∣∣∣Ψ

(α)s′ m

⟩ ⟨

Ψ(α)s′ m

∣∣∣

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Spin foam model for general Lorentzian geometries

Partition function

Z =

SL(2,C)

ev

dgev

nf

ζf =±1

Ue

f

(1+γ2ζf )n2f Af

(

(ζf γζf nf , nf ), ζf ;Ue ; gev

)

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Spin foam sum in terms of coherent states

Using completeness relations of coherent states the spin foam sum can bealso written in terms of vertex amplitudes.

For example, in the case of the discrete series,

j = (2j − 1)

SU(1,1)

dg

∣∣∣Ψ±

j g

⟩ ⟨

Ψ±

j g

∣∣∣ = (2j − 1)

d2N

∣∣∣Ψj ~N

⟩ ⟨

Ψj ~N

∣∣∣ ,

where H± is the upper/lower hyperboloid.

More details soon . . .

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Summary of results

coherent state derivation of EPRL constraints◮ based on correspondence between classical and quantum states

extension of EPRL constraints to general Lorentzian geometries◮ normals of tetrahedra can be timelike and spacelike◮ triangles can be spacelike and timelike

discrete area spectrum of timelike surfaces

definition of associated spin foam model

coherent states for timelike triangles (see paper)

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Outlook

Our results open the way to analyzing realistic Lorentzian geometries◮ corresponding to generic discretizations of smooth geometries◮ regions with timelike boundaries◮ black holes?

Extension of results on EPRL model?◮ asymptotics, graviton propagator . . . ?

canonical LQG on timelike surfaces?

comparison with previous work on timelike surfacesPerez, Rovelli

Alexandrov, Vassilevich

Alexandrov, Kadar

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