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Dr Marc Faber 2012
Presentation for the London Bullion Market Association
11.00am, Monday, November 12, 2012
At the Grand Hyatt Hotel
HONG KONG
Marc Faber Limited
Suite 801, The Workstation, 43 Lyndhurst Terrace
Central, Hong Kong
Tel: (852) 2801-5411
Fax: (852) 2845-9192
Email: [email protected]
Deflationary Bust or Government Profligacy and Money Printing
“Our analysis leads us to believe that recovery is sound only if it does come
of itself. For any revival which is merely due to artificial stimulus leaves part
of the work of the depressions undone and adds, to an undigested remnant of
maladjustments, new maladjustments of its own.”
Joseph Schumpeter
“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword.
The other is by debt.”
John Adams
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“The more I studied economic science, the smaller appeared the knowledge which I had of it in
proportion to the knowledge I needed; and now, at the end of nearly half a century of almost
exclusive study of it, I am conscious of more ignorance of it than I was at the beginning of the
study.”
Alfred Marshall
Addressing long-term structural problems with “short-run fixes” (Krugman) and superimposing
“new bubbles” (Krugman, McCulley) upon busted ones is the shortest road to economic
catastrophe
Problems associated with expansionary monetary policies
Problems associated with expansionary fiscal policies
Causes and consequences of the ongoing shift in the balance of economic and political power
from the most developed countries to emerging economies
Rising social and political tensions in the Middle East and Central Asia, and territorial disputes
in the South China Sea
Investment strategy in a rapidly changing and highly volatile economic, political and financial
environment
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TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION 1
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FED FUND RATE & CRISES, 1960 - 2012
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Source: Ed Yardeni, www.yardeni.com
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"If it were possible to take interest rates into negative territory I would be voting
for that.”
Janet Yellen
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FOR HOW LONG WILL REAL INTEREST RATES
STAY NEGATIVE?
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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com
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LONG TERM US INTEREST RATES, 1790 - 2012
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Source: N/A
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Since 1790, the average interest rate on US Long-Term Treasuries has been 5%!
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TOTAL CREDIT MARKET DEBT AS PERCENTAGE OF
US GDP, 1921 – 2010
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Source: Ned Davis Research
“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The
other is by debt.” John Adams
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IS A DEFLATIONARY COLLAPSE POSSIBLE?
Source: The Bank Credit Analyst, Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus
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“The overall level of debt makes no difference … one person’s liability is another
person’s asset.” Paul Krugman
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PRIVATE SECTOR CREDIT GROWTH EXPANDING
AGAIN
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Source: Ed Yardeni, www.yardeni.com
“The grand fight between central bank debt monetization and the natural order of
economic cleansing is about to enter a deeper, darker circle of hell.”
Bill King, The King Report (July 2012)
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US GOVERNMENT DEBT WILL CONTINUE
TO EXPAND
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Source: www.whitehouse.gov
“Great nations are never impoverished by private, though they sometimes are
by public prodigality and misconduct.” Adam Smith
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OFFICIAL US FISCAL DEFICIT AND CALCULATED
ACCORDING TO STANDARD ACCOUNTING RULES
(IN $ TRILLIONS)
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Source: USA TODAY Research, Congressional Budget Office
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THE UNLIKELY FISCAL CLIFF: SIZE OF FEDERAL TAX
INCREASES, 1968 – 2012
Source: Strategas Research Partners, www.chartoftheday.com
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FEDERAL SPENDING AND INCOME AS A PERCENTAGE
OF GDP
Source: www.usgovernmentspending.com, www.theliscioreport.com
“We all know what to do, we just don't know how to get re-elected after we have done it.”
Jean- Claude Junker (Prime Minister Luxembourg)
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Source: Dan Mitchell, International Liberty
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FEDERAL SPENDING AS SHARE OF GDP:
CANADA AND US, 1965 - 2012
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PERCENTAGE OF US POPULATION LIVING IN A
HOUSEHOLD RECEIVING
SOME GOVERNMENT BENEFIT, 1983 - 2012
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Source: US Census Bureau, The Wall Street Journal
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GOVERNMENT SPENDING AS A PERCENTAGE OF GDP,
1870 - 1913
Source: The Cato Institute
“Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest
barbarism, but peace, easy taxes and a tolerable administration of justice.”
Adam Smith
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GROWING WEALTH INEQUITY: THE GAP BETWEEN
YOUNGER AND OLDER AMERICANS
(MEDIAN NET WORTH IN 1984 AND IN 2009)
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Source: CNN Money, Pew Research Center, www.mybudget360.com
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MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD NET WORTH BY AGE GROUP,
1989 – 2010
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Source: Board of Governors of Federal Reserve System, 2010, Economic Policy Institute
“If all prices and incomes rose equally, no harm would be done to anyone. But the rise is not
equal. Many lose and some gain.” Irving Fisher
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NET US DOMESTIC CAPITAL SPENDING,
1947 - 2012
Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com
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US TRADE BALANCE, 1950 - 2012
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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com
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INCREMENTAL DEMAND FROM CHINA AND EXPANSIONARY
MONETARY POLICIES DROVE COMMODITY PRICES HIGHER
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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus
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THE INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES’ RELATIVE
ECONOMIC DECLINE
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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com
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CHINA’S EXPORT DESTINATIONS
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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst
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SOUTH KOREA’S EXPORT DESTINATIONS
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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst
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CHINA’S SHARE OF GLOBAL COMMODITY TRADE (NET
IMPORT AS PERCENTAGE OF WORLD IMPORT), 1992 - 2012
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Source: IMF, Maybank Kim Eng
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CHINA’S CURRENT SHARE OF
WORLD COMMODITY CONSUMPTION
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Source: Barclays Capital, www.agorafinancial.com
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AT SOME POINT COMMODITIES CONSUMPTION GROWTH
LEVELS OFF OR….
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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com
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..…OR DECLINES AS IN THE MOST
ADVANCED ECONOMIES
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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com
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A CREDIT BUBBLE IN CHINA!
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Source: Bridgewater Associates
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RATIO OF HOME PRICES TO ANNUAL INCOME IN
SELECTED CITIES, 2011
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Source: IMF, Global Stability Report, Albert Edwards, Societe General
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CHINA’S OIL CONSUMPTION, 1987 - 2012
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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com
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CHINA’S “STRING OF PEARLS” TO PROTECT THE
SHIPPING LANES
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Sources: International Maritime Bureau
“The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the
second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring permanent ruin.”
Ernest Hemingway
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TENSIONS AROUND THE SOUTH CHINA SEA 31
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Source: www.middlebury.edu
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“The chief danger in life is that you may take too many precautions.” Alfred Adler
“The attraction which inflation policies have for so many people grows, in part at least, out of
what may be called the money illusions.” Irving Fisher
Negative real interest rates bring about higher economic and financial volatility
Different asset classes inflate and deflate at different times with different intensity
Two Strategies • Aggressively shifting from one asset class to another or
• Achieving safety through diversification
Equities
Cash and Bonds
Real Estate
Gold
Paradoxically, monetary inflation creates great opportunities to invest in distressed
assets
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AVERAGE HOLDING PERIODS OF US EQUITIES,
1926 – 2011
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Source: Alan Newman, www.cross-currents.net
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HIGH VOLATILITY LIKELY TO CHARACTERIZE
ALL INVESTMENT MARKETS
Source: John Roque, WJB Capital Group ([email protected] )
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CENTRAL BANKS’ BALANCE SHEETS, 2003 – 2012
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Source: John Lohman, Bloomberg, Bank of Japan
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"If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.“
John Kenneth Galbraith
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HOW DO WE VALUE ASSETS WHEN REAL INTEREST
RATES ARE NEGATIVE?
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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus
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WILL US CORPORATE PROFITS DISAPPOINT?
(AFTER-TAX PROFITS OF US CORPORATIONS AS A
PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESS GDP, 1950 – 2011)
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Source: Gerard Minack, Morgan Stanley
“It has long been recognized, by the business world and by economists alike, that a
period of rising prices acts as a stimulus to enterprise and is beneficial to business
men.” John Maynard Keynes
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PERCENTAGE OF US STOCKS WITH A DIVIDEND
YIELD HIGHER THAN TEN-YEAR TREASURY
NOTE YIELD, 2006 – 2012
Source: Wolfe Trahan & Co
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SELECTED “PRICE BUBBLES”
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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst
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SELECTED EQUITIES IN GREECE, PORTUGAL, SPAIN,
ITALY, AND FRANCE ARE INEXPENSIVE
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Source: Thompson Reuters Datastream
“We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly
disguised as insoluble problems.” John W. Gardner
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WHAT IF THE EURO FALLS APART?
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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com
MEXICAN PESO, 1969 - 2009 (Monthly Spot – Pesos per USD)
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MOVEMENT OF MEXICAN STOCKS IN PESO
AND USD, 1979 - 1988
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Source: Acciones Y Valores De Mexico, SA;
Marc Faber, The Great Money Illusion (Hong Kong, 1988)
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S&P 500 TRAILING 10-YEAR COMPOUND ANNUAL
TOTAL RETURN, 1825 - 2011
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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus
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PREFERENCE FOR ASIAN EQUITIES
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Source: Nicholas Smithie, UBS
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“Inflation is like sin; every government denounces it and every government
practices it.” Frederick Leigh-Ross
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ONE CONCERN: EMERGING MARKET CURRENCIES 45
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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co
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Source: McKinsey & Company
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THE WORLD’S FINANCIAL WEALTH 2009
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Source: Alan Newman, www.cross-currents.net
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IN GOLD I STILL TRUST
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HOW TO REPAIR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY?
LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING!
“The growth in government economic activity has a positive effect on productivity growth when government expenditures are less
than 17 percent of GNP, but when government expenditures are greater than 17 percent of GNP this effect is negative. Maximum
long-run productivity growth thus occurs when government expenditures are about half of their 1986 percentage.”
Edgar Peden, “Productivity in the United States and its Relationship to Government Activity: An Analysis of 57 years, 1929–1986”
(Public Choice, vol. 69, 1991)
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There is no means of avoiding a final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis
should come sooner as a result of a voluntary
abandonment of further credit expansion, or
later as a final and total catastrophe of the
currency system involved.
Ludwig von Mises
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