181]BISMILLAHIRRAHMA:NIRRAH:I:M2]A CRITIQUE OF ENGINEER ALI
MIRZA ON HIS BELIEF ABOUT ILM AL GHAIB(6a).3]CRITIQUE
(3,1)4]INTRODUCTION:= Engineer Ali Mirza has tried to prove (in his
lecture 6a)that ILM AL GHAIB is an Attribute of Holy Apostles
includingHoly Prophet S:AV .See lecture 6a. How ever he differs
from a Bans Barailvis on only in concept of ILM AL GHAIB but also
in the interpretations of those Verses Of HOLY QURA:N which clearly
Do Refute ILM AL GHAIB from each and every Ghair ALLAH without
Exception.In this research paper we criticize only Engineer ALI
MIRZA and his followers [ALI-MIRAIZ\ENGINEERITES\JHELAMITES etc.]
This Excogitation is not concerned with Bans Barailvism.5]BELIEF OF
ALI MIRZA ABOUT ILM AL GHAIB:-Engineer Ali Miraz of Jhelum believes
that Holy Prophet [SAVS]does/did know ILM AL GHAIB.According to him
Ghaib is a relative term and it means that some thing is beyond the
SENSES of Human Beings.[It is generally assumed that there are five
senses in a human being. How ever some believe in SIX senses and
some in four senses. A number of philosophers believe in ten
senses, five of which are said to be EXTERNAL five of them are said
to be INTERNAL by them.How ever it is evident that Ali mirza do not
believe in Internal senses. It is safely assumed that Ali Mirza
believes in only five senses ].According to the Engineer Ali Mirza
of Jhelum ; If there is a thing (say ) and some one gets its
knowledge from five senses or from the means of scientific
instruments, equipments, machines etc, through observations and
experiments , then the knowledge of thing is NOT Ilm Al Ghaib. How
ever if some one does get its knowledge from REVIELATION or
ASPIRATION then the Knowledge of the thing (say )is ILM AL GHAIB,
as according to the Enginner.Engineer further argues that DEITY
ALL-H (SVT) is not ALIM AL GHAIB in the true/real meaning
(Prime/First meaning), since ALL-H KNOWETH all things with out
exception, and no thing is Absent from ALL-H. Every thing is
present in respect to HIM (SVT) in a single[and unit] Moment [of
time]. So ALL-H is A:LIM AL GHAIB(KNOWER OF AL GHAIB) in relative
meaning and not in absolute meaning; that is relative to HIS
Creations and Creatures. Ali Mirza further proceeds as follow:-If
the Holy Prophets know something from revelation then it is not AL
GHAIB with respect to the DEITY ALL-H, but it is AL GHAIB with
respect to other Rational Suppositums or Rational Existents.6]A
DELIBERATE MISCONCEPTION MADE BY ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF JHELUM
Engineer ALI: MIRZ says that if some one [who so ever he may be]
believes Holy Prophet [S:AVS] holds the Attribute Of Knowledge of
Al Ghaib in the sense Holy Prophet has an Ability to know the
events and things of Past , Present and Future, events in the world
or outside the world , then it is Shirc. He very intelligently
overlooked the belief of ILM AL GHAIB in the sense Holy Prophet
DO/DOES Know each and every event and each and every thing from the
Beginning to the End , with out a single Exception. This is
calledCUL ILM MA:CA:NA VA YACU:NA ILA YAUMIL QIYAMAH. To say that
the Holy Prophet [S:AVS] Does Know each and every event from the
very Beginning to the very End , IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS then to say
Holy Prophet [S:AVS] had the capability or ability to know an event
from the Beginning to End [whether in past or present or future]
when ever Holy Prophet [S:AVS] WILLS TO KNOW.This misconception
becomes a conspiracy when it is found that the believers of the
said ability or capability are either not found or are rarely found
, while the believers in CUL ILM MA CANA VA YACUNA MIN YAUMIL AUVAL
ILA YAUMIL A:KHIR are generally found in abundance. This is not the
whole problem, a very large number of them which are in multitudes
also believe that CUL ILM MA: CA:NA VA YACUNA ILA YAUMIL QIYA:MAH
[Of Holy Prophet (S:AVS)] is just a very small portion of ILM AL
GHAIB of Holy Prophet [S:AVS].The proportion suggested by them
between the former and the latter is the proportion of A WAVE OF AN
OCEAN and the very Ocean Itself.Mathematical Representation of
their claim is as follow:=W:O::C:I [In old formation] and W:O=C:I
[In new information] Where W=Wave of an Ocean, O=The Ocean,C=CulIlm
Ma:ca:na Va Yacuna Ilal Qiyamah,I=ILM AL GHAIB [ASCRIBED TO HOLY
PROPHER(S:AVS) by these people]. It is very straIt is very strange
to see that engineer Ali Mirza does not condemn this belief or ever
state this belief and condemn a belief which is rarely found. One
may sense a great conspiracy in this. NOTES:=1][Some time plural
form of verbs in English are deliberately used for the Holy Prophet
(S:AVS).,SOME TIME WITH\ OR/. This is plural of Majesty, not an
error] 2] Ability is more correct word then capability but as the
Engineer Ali Mirza has used the latter, so it was also
mensioned.
ALI MIRZAS STRANGE DISCUSSION ABOUT ILM AL GHAIB AND IMAN BIL
GHAIB.Engineer Ali Mirza says that if Deity Informed His Prophet
Through Revelation Or Aspiration, [Not through the Senses Of THE
PROPHET], then it is AL Ghaib for the Prophet and Its Knowledge for
the Holy Prophet is Knowledge of AL GHAIB. But when the Holy
Prophet informed his Ummah about the thing stated above, then the
knowledge of the thing is not the knowledge of Al Ghaib for the
Ummah. How ever the faith of any Muslim [S:ah:abah] ON the thing
after hearing \Listening directly from the Holy Prophet is Ima:n Bi
Ghaib [Faith On Al Ghaib].This is what Engineer Ali Mirza
says:-7]SAMMARY OF ALI MIRZA MEANING OF THE WORD ALGHAIBWhat Ali
Mirza Said CanBe Summarized in three points[N-ca:t]a]According to
the Engineer the word AL GHAIB is a relative term. It is not an
Absolute term. A term in Absolute meaning is Impossible since in
absolute sense it means that a thing is even absent from
ALL-H,Where as all things are present to DEITY in a single moment
[A:N]of time.As its Absoluteness is impossible, the only possible
meaning is a Relative Meaning. It is used only in this meaning.
[All This Implies That Al Ghaib is not divisible In Absolute and
Relative AL Ghaib].b] According to Ali Mirza of Jhelum as the term
Al Ghaib is a relative term then it may be used for any
[Created]Rational Suppositum and any [Created]Rational Existent
with respect to other[Created] Suppositums and[Created]
Existents.c]It is possible for a Muslim [S;AH:BI:] that knowledge
of a thing is not the Knowledge of Al Ghaib, Yet the faith of the
Muslim [S:AH:ABI:] on the very same thing is Faith on Al
Ghaib.CRITIQUE OF THESE THREE POINTS OF ALI MIRZA:-Several Points
may be presented against the [points of ALI MIRZA.1]He says that
every thing is present for Deity in a a single moment [of time].The
question is in what sense a thing is present in front of
Deity.???If in the PHYSICAL SENSE then it is Impossible since
Neither DEITY Nor DIVEN OMNISCIENCE Is Physical.If in the sense
that it is not ABSENT from Divine Attributes Of
SEEING/LOOKING,HEARING/LISTENING, and KNOWLEDGE, then in this sense
no thing is AL GHAIB [whether the ting is Existent or Non
Existent,Necessary or Unnecessary, Possible or Impossible, Absurd
or Not Absurd, Contingent or Incontingent] then Nothing is AL
GHAIB.How ever if it meaneth that it knowledge is only for the
Deity then any thing that is ONLY KNOWN to DEITY is AL GHAIB.So by
definition in the second meaning ABSOLUTE AL GHAIB MEANETH, A THING
THAT IS BEYOND THE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL CREATIONS,CREATURES, RATIONAL
AND IRRATIONAL SUPPOSITAMS, RATIONAL EXISTENTS ETC.]The term
Absolute Ghaib doeth not mean to be Absent from the Omniscience Of
ALL-H.Just like Absolute Power does not Include Divine Essence in
It and Divine Essential Attributes in It.[ The term Absolute GHAIB
does not includes things from Omniscience such that they necessary
Exclude the Divine OMNISCIENCE.].In this meaning the term Relative
Al Ghaib means that it is known to Deity, and to some of His
creations.2]It must be noted that the word Ghaib have a number of
Meanings .Ali Mirza of Jhelum is using this term in some other
meaning as stated above.But if he has a right to use this word in
one meaning ,others have an equal right to use the very same term
in other meanings. [IF and THEN, argument].3] If every thing is
Present for Deity in a single moment, then this moment is either
the moment of time or it is an unit part of some thing beyond time.
If it is the moment of time then time is also creation of one of
the parts of the thing. This is impossible. If it is a moment of
some thing beyond time then it is either Makhlu:q or Ghair
Makhlu:q. If Makhlu:q then it is a SHIRC to claim that All Makhlu:q
are present in a part of Ghair Makhlu:q. If it is MAKHLU:Q thenit
means that the thing it self present in itself along other things,
and this is impossible. Some other impossibilities are not
discussed for sake of brievity.4]What the Engineer has opined about
Knowledge of Al Ghaib and Faith On Al Ghaib doeth Imply that he
himself is taking the word al Ghaib in two Composite terms in two
different manings.We must state this in form of a
theorem:-8]CLAIM:- Engineer Ali Mirza Of Jhelum Have taken the word
AL GHAIB in two different terms (a) ILM AL GHAIB (Knowledge of Al
Ghaib)and (b)I:MA:N BIL GHAIB (Faith On Al Ghaib) [at least] IN TWO
DIFFERENT MEANINGS.PROOF:Suppose a thing is Ghaib and its knowledge
is knowledge of Ghaib in some sense of the word AL GHAIB for the
Holy Prophet [S.AVS]. Let this sense be sense A.Now according to
Engineer Ali Mirza Of Jhelum , if the Holy Prophet Informs some one
about the thing say, the Knowledge of the thing say is not the
Knowledge for the Person .But as the person [A S:AH:A:BI in our
supposed case] certainly hath Faith on the thing , the faith can
not be the Faith On AL GHAIB in the sense A. Consider the faith of
the Holy Prophet on the said thing which is supposed to be informed
by Deity through the medium of REVELATION OR ASPIRATION. Since it
is Impossible Upon The HolyEssence Of the Holy Prophet that he
lacketh faith on anything if Informed by the Deity ALL-H. The
Impossibility is undisputed. Faith of the Holy Prophet(SAVS) on the
thing can be faith on Al Ghaib if the thing is AL GHAIB in the very
same sense i.e Sense A.Faith of Holy Prophet Upon His Own
Prophethood is Faith on HUD:UR since Prophethood of the Holy
Prophet is an Attribute of the Essence of the Holy Prophet and the
Knowledge of any one of His Attrribute for Him is ILM AL H:UDURI
[KNOWLEDGE OF SELF AND IMPLIED BY SELF]not ILM AL GHAIB ( From any
standard).If the knowledge of a thing is KnowledgeAl Ghaib in sense
A of the word AL GHAIB then faith of the Holy Prophet [S.A.V.S] on
the thing stated above is the Faith on the Ghaib in the sense
A.(STRICTLY in Sense A).Since Faith is impossible with out
knowledge.Now consider the case of the Muslim stated above.
According to the Standard Of Ali Mirza Of Jhelum.As the very same
thing isAl Ghaib For the Holy Prophet S.A.V.S but not for the
Muslim stated above in sense A of the word AL GHAIB, then the faith
of the Muslim stated above is certainly Not Faith On Al Ghaib in
the very same sense say sense A.Since it is Not Al Ghaib in the
sense A.If it is Al Ghaib in regard to faith then the sense must be
different say Sense B.Othewise even for the Muslim stated above the
Faith of the said Muslim on the said thing is Not Faith On AL GHAIB
in regard to sense A. This implies shift from one sense to an other
sense of the word AL GHAIB as Engineer Shifts from one composite
term to an other composite term.Q.E.DAs the word AL GHAIB is used
in both of the two composite terms in two different senses\
meanings proved above, the context of Ali Mirza is falsified , in
which his senses are presented.5] From the above proof the
following two results are concluded.5,1]If the knowledge of a thing
say isKnowledge of AL GHAIB for the HOLY PROPHET SAVS, because the
knowledge of the thing say is directly Reveled to Him [S:AVS] by
Holy Deity [He did not acquired the knowledge fron normal senses] ,
Then Faith Of The Holy Prophet on the very same thing say is Faith
on AL GHAIB, keeping the sense\meaning of the word AL GHAIB
conserved in both composite terms a] ILM AL GHAIB [Knowledge Of Al
Ghaib] and b]I:MA:N BIL GHAIB [Faith On Al Ghaib]. Say the Sense or
Meaning A.In the meaning A of the word Al Ghaib no one who is not
directly reveled by Holy Deity ALL-H [SUBH:NAHU: VA TAA:LA:] can
have Faith On Al Ghaib.This cannot be accepted even by Engineer Ali
Mirza of Jhelum.5,2]If the faith of a Muslim on a thing say is
Faith On Al Ghaib, in some Sense \Meaning B, even if the thing is
orally and verbally informed by the HOLY PROPHET [S:AVS] then the
Knowledge of the thing informed say is the Knowledge Of AL GHAIB.
This is unacceptable in the engineered system of the Engineer.
Since he believes that only selected Apostles and Messengers Of
ALL-H do have the Knowledge Of Al Ghaib.
9]Possible Arguments Of The Engineer Ali Mirza Of Jhelum in His
defence. It is possible that Engineer Ali may try to defend his
position. We do have tried to anticipate and to estimate some of
his possibleResponses.1] As it has been said that no thing is AL
Ghaib with respect to Deity ALL-H (SUBH:ANAHU VA TAA:LA:), and
every thing is present in a single moment of time in Divine
Presence [H;ud:u;r], then nothing can beALGHAIB For The Holy Deity
ALL-H [Suh:anahu: Va Taa:la:],To call some thing as AL GHAIB is in
relation to His Creations. This does shew that the word is used in
a relative meaning for the Divine Case , and it is relative to
Creations and Creatures Of Deity. Then the very same word in a
relative meaning can be used for Creations .If One Creation Knoweth
something and another doeth not Know It then THE Thing is AL GHAIB
for the other creation. So the Knowledge of the That thing is
Knowledge of Al Ghaib in regard to the second creation [OF
ALL-H].In principle this defense is answered and replied. How ever
in this case an other answer is provided.This defense means that if
the frames of reference are Creations Of ALL-H, in the Divine Case,
the same Frame of reference may be use in Case Creations relative
to Each Other.This is one of the Great Fallacies made on self style
reasonings.There is Only One Frame Of Reference and That is the
Divine Case. As Deity Knoweth Knowledge Of Al Ghaib in the meaning
the things That are Known To Deity Are Not Known to Any One Of His
Creation [WITH OUT ANY EXCEPTION]. So if a thing is ONLY KNOWN TO
DEITYand No Creation Knoweth It then It Is AL GHAIB. If atleast one
of the Creations of DEITY Knoweth It Then It Is Knowledge Of
SHAHA:DAH WITH RESPEECT TO ALL-H [SVS].This same respect is
conserved even for the cases of GHAIR ALL-H.Let suppose the case
that ALL-H KNOWETH ABOUT A THING SAY, and only One Of His Creation
Knoweth It.The rest of Creations Of Deity ALL-H do not Know It. Now
the Knowledge of the thing for the Only Creation Of ALL-H that
Knoweth It Cannot bde termed as Knowledge of AL GHAIB, since the
frame of reference is conserved in the word AL Ghaib [ even if the
word AL GHAIB is relative.]. The word cannot be used in any other
relative meaning in the TERM ILM AL GHAIB [Knowledge Of AL GHAIB] .
The question may be asked that if a thing is only known to Only One
Creation Of Deity and Not not known to any other Creation [with out
any Exception] then what type of knowledge is it, Also what it may
be called.[How ever one may suggest that it may be Called ILM
MAKHSUS LIL MAKHLU:Q AL VAH;ID etc. But this is not ILM AL GHAIB
.It either belongs to ILM ASH SHAHA:DAH if LAW OF EXCLUDING THE
MIDDLE IS APPLICABLE BETWEEN ILM AL GHAIB AND ILM ASH SHAHADAH or
THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE MIDDLE/MEDIUM if the said law is not
applicable. In either case it Excludes the Attribute ILM AL GHAIB
,where ther term is in the said meaning [i.e the things(whether
Exitents
,NonExistents,Necessaries,UnNecessaries,Possibles,Impossibles,Cotingents,Incontingents,Absurds,Not
Absurds) Are ONLY and ONLY Known to the ONLY and ONLY ILAH (
DEITY)ALL-H (S.V.T)]. If it is ILM ASH SHAHA:DAH, it is With
Respect to Deity, even if the CreatedSuppositum OR Created Existent
have never seen by HIS/ITS/HER Physical Eyes. If it is accepted
that il,m Bil Vah:y is not ILM AS SHAHA:DAH then any thing informed
to Holy Prophet S:AVS By ALL-H SVT Through V-HY
[Revelation\Aspiration] is Not Knowledge Of Al Ghaib irrespective
of the fact whether OMNIPOTENT Deity ALL-H DID SHEW it to His Holy
Prophet Or Not.. The answer is that one may suggest a number of
atomic or molecular terms for this thing but no one has right to
call it Knowledge Of Al Ghaib by changing the meaning or reference
of the word AL GHAIB in the composite term ILM AL GHAIB[Knowledge
Of AL GHAIB].Further it must be noted that the different meaningof
the word AL GHAIB is found in Arabic LAXITONS and Even In Textus
Receptus Of Holy QURA:N. One may use this word in different
meanings. BUT No one is allowed to use is word in some other
meaning or sense IN THE CONSTRUCTIONS ILM AL GHAIB ANDA:LIM AL
GHAIB. [Itmust be noted that what so ever is true for the term ILM
AL GHAIB[Knowledge Of Ghaib] is also True for the term A:LIMUL
GHAIB [Knower of AL GHAIB], so the latter term is not discussed in
particular.10]Conclusion Of View of Ali Mirza:= Engineer Ali Mirza
Opines that when a thing is informed to Holy Prophet (S:AVS) by the
Holy Deity ALL-H through (the Medium of) Revelation or Aspiration
then the Knowledge of the Thing is the Knowledge Of Al Ghaib for
the Holy Prophet [SAVS]; but when the very same Thing is informed
by the Holy Prophet [S:AVS] to S:ah:abah RD (orally and verbally)
THEN this is Not Knowledge Of Al Ghaib but Faith On Ghaib.The
reasons told by the Engineer are as follow :=A] Holy Prophet
[S:AVS] hath seen it.B]The Ummah [ S:AH:BAH RD] hath not seen it.C]
Holy Prophet [S:AVS] is informed through Revelation\Aspiration.D]
Ummah [S:ahj:abah RD] are informed orally and verbally.This implies
that there are two Necessary Conditions for the Knowledge of a
thing to be Knowledge of Al Ghaib, in the system of the
Engineer.1]Information through Revelation\Aspiration.2]Seeing the
thing [ at least for a moment?] If any one of the condition is not
satisfied then the knowledge of the stated abov thing ceases to be
the knowledge of Al Ghaib. Consequenes Of View of Ali Mirza:=
Consequences of View of Respected Ali Mirza are as fallow:=1] This
does imply that Holy Apostle Of Allah did NOT HAVE Faith On Al
Ghaib [Ima:n Bil Ghaib]. AL AYA:Z:. BILLAH TAA:LA.2] This does
imply that if Holy Apostle Of All-h Hath faith on Al Ghaib then the
Holy Apostle [S:AVS] hath not seen it, yet he hath been informed
about it through Vah:y by ALL-H. The moment Holy Prophet\Apostle
[S:AVS]seeth the thing His Faith On AL GHAIB easeth. AL AYAZ:.
BILLAH TAA:LA: .An other important point which must be noted that
the word Al Ghaib is used in two different meanings in two
religious terms a] Knowledge of Al Ghaib. b]Faith on Al Ghaib.If
they are in one and same meaning then this implies unbearable
consequences inconsistent in the system of Respectable
Engineer.-Suppose that the word AlGhaib is used in the term Faith
On Ghaib in the very sense it is used in the term Knowledge of Al
Ghaib.Then Faith On Al Ghaib BI-IMPLIETH Knowledge of Al Ghaib.This
implieth negation of any one of the two implieth the negation of
the other one in Bi-implication.This is not acceptable in the
system of the Engineer , since ,this implieth Knowledge Of AL GHAIB
to each an every S:AH:BI INPARTICULAR and each and every individual
of Ummah in general.This explodes his system. Suppose that the word
AlGhaib is used in the term Knowledge Of Al Ghaib in the very sense
it is used in the term Faith on Al Ghaib.Then Faith On Al Ghaib
BI-IMPLIETH Knowledge of Al Ghaib.This Bi Implieth negation of any
one and negation of the other as stated above.This implieth that
negation of ILM AL GHAIB FROM S:AHABAH IMPLIETH NEGATION OF FAITH
ON AL GHAIB FROM S:AHABAH RD. A GARLIC FORM OF RAFID:IYAH.Even
negation of Knowledge of Al Ghaib From Saiyiduna Ali RD implies
Negatin of His Faith On Al Ghaib . AL AYAZ:. Billah TA:A:LA:
.Itmust be noted that Rafid:yah is even a disgrace for Saiyiduna
Ali RD and his two Fatimide Sons RD.Saiyiduna It is a Revenge Of
Allah from the Engineer for disgracing Sayiduna Muaviah RD that the
System Engineered IS even against Ali the forth Caliph of
Islam.11]LITERAL MEANING IS NOT ACCEPTED EVEN IN THE SYSTEM
ENGINEERED BY THE ENGINEER. It must be noted once for all that the
literal meaning of the word Ghaib meaneth UNSEEN. [The word AL is
the Arabic Definite Article. When the word is used Anarthrous then
it may be in definite sense on the demand of context].But this
meaning is not taken by the engineer in the term Knowledge Of Al
Ghaib. Since he restricts ILM AL GHAIB [Knowledge Of AL Ghaib] ONLY
to APOSTLES OF ALL-H.If the meaning Unseen is taken in the term
Knowledge Of Al Ghaib then ILM AL GHAIB becometh a common Attribute
of all human beings. For example if a person hath not seen
MACCAH\MAKKAH ,MADINAH, BUGHDAD , BERLIN , LONDON , DAHLI
[DEHLI\DELHI] then each of the stated above places is AL GHAIB for
him, and the knowledge obtained and acquired by AL KHABAR AL
MUTVATIR [CONSECUTIVE NEWS] kis the knowledge. But Respectable Ali
Mirza cannot accept that it is a common Attribute of All human
beings.He believes that it is an Attribute Of chosen Apostles Of
ALL-H.Now it is crystal clear that Engineer himself takes some
meaning of the word in the composite terms and rejects the other
meanings. The choice of meaning is upon his own resoning. But he
has no right in insist on his selected meaning. [ Anarthrous
meaneth unarticulared noun, Greek: Anarthros]12]CHANGES IN THE
MEANINGS OF RELIGIOUS TERMS ARE PROHABITTED.In the terms of
Religion [AL IS:T:ILA:HA:T AD DI:NIYAH] meaning are conserved and
any other meaning whether real or virtual, primary or secondary is
strongly prohibited . In certain cases use of Religious Terms in
some other meaning is Cufr\Kufr, is some cases it is Fisq and
insome cases it is Unorthodoxy and Heresy [Bidah]. In this section
this aspect shall be discussed INSHA: ALL-AH.13]DIFFERENCES OF ALI
MIRZA FROM BANS BARAILISM IN REGARD TO ILM AL GHAIB AND IN REGARD
TO A:YA:T REFUTING IT FROM GHAIR ALLAH.1]Bans Barailism and ALI
MIRZAISM [ JHELUMISM/ENGINEERISM] differ on two issues on ILM AL
GHAIB.Bans Barailvism believes that CULILM MA: CA:NA VA YACU:NA is
Included In the ILM OG AL GHAIN,which is known to Holy Prophet
S:AVS. A number of Bans Brailvis do believe that the tota knowledge
of NABI AS is like an Ocean and CUL ILM MA : CA;NA VA ACU:N ILA:
YAUMIL QIYQMQH is like a wave on the surface of the Ocean. On the
other hand some BANS BARAILVIS are satisfied with the belief that
all the Knowlede Of Al Ghaib Of Nabi S:AVS is included in the
stated above CUL ILM MA:CA:NA VA YACU:NA ILA: YAUMIL QIYAMAH.On the
contrary the sect\cult of Ali-Mirzaism [and ALI MIRZA HIMSELF]is
silent on the issue as if he is not certain whether this CUL ILM
MACANA VA YACUNA ILA: YAUMIL QIYA:MAH belongs to the Knowledge Of
Al Ghaib ascribed toNABI S:AVS, or it does Not. 2] Engineer Ali:
Mirza [Founder of Ali-Mirzaism\Engineerism sect ] differ from Bans
Barailvism in the responces of[ Argumentations from ]A:YA:T
presented by Majority of AHLUSSUNNAH VAL JAMA:AH Against the claim
of Attributing Knowledge of Cul Ilm Ma: Ca:na Va Yacun Ilam Yaumil
Qiyamah.Bans Barailism tries to particularize the word ILM or its
derivations by Essential Ilm or its derivation.They accept that
these YA:T are not M-H:CAM on Zahir [Apparent meanings\Literal
Meaning].They accept that these words are particular in meaning if
general in form.The Engineer instead of adopting this approach owes
to the approach of Exception.He says that Some Apostles of ALLAH
[Not All]HAVE EXCEPTION from these A:YA:T [Verses].He makes it as a
ANALOGUE of SH-FA:AH. That shall be discussed latter.The reason is
that his teacher Shaikh Zubair Ali Zai strongly disliked to discuss
in terms of Essential [Z:,A:TI:] and Bestowed [ATA:I]. So in
respect of his teacher he also dislike these two terms.NOTE:= One
may not think that the Engineer never uses the term like Essential
[Z:.a:ti:] and Bestowed [At:a:I] is his lectures. He has used these
terms in his lecture 6a. He has also willingly or unwillingly said
that Divine Knowledge is Essential and the Knowlidge Of Holy
Prophet [S:AVS]Is Bestowed. What is meant is not that he never uses
these Philosophical and Theological terms. He some times does do
so. The point is some what different . He does not particularize
the word ILM or its derivatives [S:-RF/MORPHOLOGY] by ILM
AZ:.Z:.A:TI and its suggested derivatives, as Bans Barailivis often
do, he makes an EXCEPTION. It is another matter that as a result of
this exception he accepts the division of Essential and
Beastowed.So according to Bans Barailvism the AYA:T are
particularized [TAKHS:I:S:] primarily, and in Ali-Mirzaism
Exception is made Primarily. Please keep this difference between
the two sects in mind while hearing lectures of Engineer ALI: MIRZA
OF JHELUM. 14]ARGUMENTS OF ALI MIRAZA:= Argument of Engineer Ali
Mirza is quite simple.He says that as ALL-H SVT [HATH]
CATAGORICALLY Denied All sorts of SHAFA:AH in Surah AL BAQARAH
Verse 254.But in the next AYAH ALL-H, BAQARAH Verse 255 ALL-H[ SVT]
Maketh an Exception, The same is the case with ILM AL GHAIB. Ins
some verses ALL-H HATHCATOGARILY DENIED ILM AL GHAIB FROM ANY OTHER
EXISTENT as if it is a Specific Divine Attribute[LUQMA:N:34;AL
ANA:M:50 ETC.] But In some otherA:YA:T ALL-H [ATTACVIR:24;AL JINN
:26,27;A:L IMRAN:179;]Hath made an Exception for some Of His His
Holy APOSTLES. LET THE SET Of A:YA:T WHICH DENY ILM AL GHAIB FROM
EVERY ONE EXCEPT ALL-AH BE CALLED SET A.LET THE SET OF A:YA:T WHICH
ARE PRESENTED BY THE ENGINEER TO MAKE IN THE AYA:T OF SET A BE
CALLED SET B.15]DISCUSSION ON THE ARGUMENTS:=ANALIZATION OF
ALI-MIRZITE ARGUMENT:=There are two Sets Of A:YA:T. Set A
consisteth Of Those A:YA:T,Which deny ILM AL GHAIB from ALL Except
ALL-H. Set B consisteth Of Those A:YA:T A about which Engineer ALI
MIRZAH claimeth that they make an Exception for Some [Not All]
Apostles Of ALL-H. This is based on a secret argument, which Must
be Exposed at this level of discussion.Engineer ALI MIRZA Thinks
that IZ:HA:R OF GHAIB [Exposition Of Ghaib] and IT:T:ILA: OF GHAIB
[Information Of Ghaib] are Either two Types Of ILM OF AL GHAIB
[Knowlegege Of Al Ghaib] or imply It.The argument of ALI Mirza is
complited.NOTE;There are atleast two types of Knowledge.
A]Knowledge Of Al Ghaib. B] Konowledge Of Ash shahadah.If law of
excluding the middle is applied to them then any type of Knowledge
that is not Knowledge of al Ghaib is the Knowledge Of Ash
Sha:dah.But if this law is not applicable then there are Mediums
between the two. In this case ILM BIL IT:T:ILA: isAt least one
Medium between the two. ANSWERING and REPLYING Engineer Ali Mirza
Of Jhelum.AYA:T of Set B do not make any exception in any one of
the AYA:T of Set A neither Collectively nor individually. Since
Neither IZ:.HA:R Of Ghaib Nor IT:T:ILA: Of Ghaib is ILM AL GHAIB
but ILM BIL VAH:Y [Knowledge Through Revelation\Aspiration]. The
claim that> is based on the definition Engineered by the
Engineer. ILM BIL VAH:Y cannot be termed as ILM AL GHAIB This is
not a problem of Literal meaning but a term of DI:N and SHAR.A
Knowledge implied by IT:T:ILA: (information) or IZ:HA:R
(Exposition) are ILM BI ITTILA ALA GHAIB or ILM BI IZ:.HA:R ALA
GHAIB. So they belongs to a separate category of Knowledge and
cannot make an Exception.If literal meanings are to be chosen then
the VERY same trick can be played for the term ILM BIL VAH:Y. A
person may claim VAH:Y for himself, and if enquired , he may open
Books Of Arabic LAXITONS arguing that he has used the said word in
this or that meaning and not in the religious meaning. INCORRECT
INSERION OF A WORD TO DISTORT THE TRANLATION OF AN A:YAH. Engineer
Ali Mirza has incorrectly translated the part of A:YAH 50 SURAH AL
-NA:M LA ALA-M AL GHAIBAs I by my [own self\khud ] do not
know.Where as this A;yah means:- I DO NOT KNOW The difference
between the two is very sharp. The addition of the word in brackets
had particularized the meaning of the verse. This is a Tahrif in
meaning.The meaning taket by Ali Mirza means that the verse saith
:=I BY MY OWN SELF DO NOT KNOW AL GHAIB, as if I may know by the
Self Of Deity Other than My Self. AL AYAZ BILLAHI TAALA:.But the
real meaning is general in regard to the negation of Knowledge from
the Self Of Holy Apostle [S:AVS].I DO NOT KNOW meaneth NEITHER I
KNOW BY MY SELF NOR BY THE SELF OF ANY OTHER OR BY ANY SELF OTHER
THAN MY SELF. SINCE I DO NOT KNOW IT ATALL.This translation was
adopted by the Engineer Ali Mirza from the sect of Bans Barailvism.
But if he follows them at one place , he should follow them at
other places as well. It is starange to se that Ali Mirza disagree
from them on the issue of H:a:d:ir va Na:z:.r [Omnipresence of Holy
Apostle (S:AVS)].What an Engineerig behind the Engineered System of
the Engineer? To disagree from a sect at one place and to agree
with the very same sect on the other place, just to shew his
neutrality. An Intrinsic Answer from the very verse:=IT IS EVIDENT
AND OBVIOUS THAT IF THE WORD IN SQUARE BRACKETS ARE EXPONGED OUT
FROM THE MEANING\TRANSLATION ;THEN THE VERSE I NOT ONLY
CATAGORICALLY DENIETH THE KNOWLEDGE OF AL GAHIB FROM ALL TYPES OF
SELVES WHETHER IDENTICAL OR DISTINCT, BUT CERTAINLY DEFINITELY AND
EXPLICITLY DENIETH THE MEANING TAKEN BY ENGINEER ALI MIRZA.He even
do not informs his audance that the omission of the word[s] stated
above change the meaning of the verse. If one may ask why not to
claim of exception instead of inserting in meanings. 16]RELIGIOUS
TERM AND THEIR FIX MEANINGS Them meaning of religious terms cannot
be changed where they be atomic or composite.Example1: The word
Nabi means one that informeth.But it cannot be used for any
informer. Even ALL-H Cannot be called Nabi in this sense.It is
clear that All-h Informeth Holy Prophet [S:AVS] but ALL-H and His
Angles cannot be called Nabi\Anbia.Example2:Word Qura:n Meaneth TO
Read or To Recite. But no other Book beside theBook Of Qura: n
canbe called Qura:n.Example3:A man cannot be called Creator of his
acts even if the meaning of the words To Creat
[infinitive],Creator[Active Participle],Creation [Noun derived from
Infinitive] Creativity [An Other Noun] are changed. Example 4] Ali
Mirza uptill now Engineer ALI Mirza agree with AHLUSSUNNAH [And who
knoweth the future] that Dua Can only be asked from ALL-H. But if
some one says Dua can be asked from some Ghai ALL-H as well,and if
it is argued that this is a shirc, it is responded by this person
:=I have changed the meaning of thde word Dua and I do not take the
meaning you take, then such a trick cannot save such a person from
Shirc.An evidence from past.Engineer Ali Mirza is a young man,but
about two hundred years ago there was a man in Laknow [India] whose
name was ABDUR RAHMAN.This person changed the meaning of the Arabic
word IL-H [DEITY] in the Expression of Tauhi:d [C-L-M-H OF TAUH:ID]
LA: ILA:HA IL LAL LA:H AL A:Z:. BILLAHI TAA:LA: .What he concluded
based on some reasoning [ far more advanced then the reasoning
Engineered by the Engineer] That LA:L UZZA, HUBAL are all ALL-H .
AL AYA:Z: BILLAHI TAALA: .Then further proceeded to prove All
things are ALL-H . AL AYA:Z:. BILLAH TAA:LA: .On of the CUFRIC
MODELS OF VAHDATUL VUJUD.He committed a similar fallacy, the
fallacy of changing the meaning of Religious Terms.Some Hindus and
Jains often ask a question by changing the meaning of the word ILAH
in the Holy Expression of Uniticiy given above.They change the
meaning of Ilah from One that Really Deserveth To Be WorshippedTo
An Object Of Worship.They say BESIDE ALL-H there are several
Objects Of Worship say Idols and Statues, even if they do deserve
to be worshipped.Then the make an objection that Expession Of
Unicity cannot be true. AL AYA:Z:. BILLAH TAA:LA: . They repeat the
fallacy of ABDURRAH:MA:N OF LACKNOW [INDIAN SUBCONTINENT].SEE
FATAVA AZIZIYAH EDTION 1973 AC, CARACHI.The word AL GHAIB in the
expressionILM AL GHAIB has very specific meaning and cannot be
changed. Outside this construction it may be used in some other
meaning as well.17] A DELIBERATE FALLACY:=A]It has been claimed by
the Engineer Ali Mirza OF JHELUM that:= It shall not be said for
every thing \event that the Nabi: [AS] did\do not know this , Nabi
[AS]does\do not know that. How ever if it is evident for an
event\thing then it can be said with certainty and
certitude.Explanation:=Engineer Ali Mirza means that one should not
say:=Holy Prophet [S:AVS] does\do Not know that this event or that
event which occurred in the past, or which occurs in present or
shall occur in future[Arbitrarily selected] from the beginning of
the world to the end of the world; unless and otherwise the
knowledge of a thing is negated by a H:ADI:S or an A:YAH.This is an
implicit support of Bans Barailism that Holy Prophet does know CUL
ILM MA CANA VA YACUN ILA YAUMIL QIYAMAH.If he has taken a neutral
approach he would have said some thing like the following:=A]
Neither Say That Holy Prophet [S:AVS] did\do know an event
Arbitrarily selected from Cul Ma Cana Va Yacuna Ila Yaumil Qiyamah,
Nor Say that Holy Prophet did\do know the event. [or]B] It shall be
said for every thing \event that the Nabi: [AS] did\do not know
this , Nabi [AS]does\do not know that. How ever if it is evident
for an event\thing then it can be said with certainty and
certitude.So he does agree with Bans Barailism that Holy Prophet is
attributed by the Attribute of Cul ILM MA: CA:NA VA YACUNA ILAL
YAUMIL QIYAMAH.How ever for his own reason he does not want to say
it explicitly. He therefore said it implicitly. But his views are
exposed after analyzing his views microscope .One may believe what
he may likes yet this is a very dangerous trick embedded secretly
in his so called research paper, a very intelligent technique to
convert a person to the belief of Cul Ilm Ma Cana: Va Yacuna Ila
Yaumil Qiyamah.
He deliberately uses ambiguous statements and sentences to
confuse his auduance.This is way it is suggested that Lectures of
Engineer Ali: Mirza are extremely dangerous for those who are
unable to understand the problem in depth.B]Engineer ALI MIRZA
states that ALL-H whatso ever Hewilleth, When ever He Willeth, what
quantity of Knowledge He Willeth, He Bestoweth to Holy
Prophet.There are certain conditions which ALI MIRZA deliberately
did not mensioned.With out these conditions it is a fallacy.1]This
Knowledge is not Knowledge of al Ghaib.2]This Knowledge is Not Cul
Ilm Macana Va Yacuna Ila Yaumic Qiya:mah.Engineer ALI MIRZA
deliberately neglected them.18]AH:aDiS Engineer Ali Mirza has
presented sevsral S:H:I:H ul ASNA:D Ah:adi:is to prove his
points.These Holy Tradition Of AHA:ADI:S do not prove his point.
Since they do not prove that the Holy Prophet [S:AVS] Hath the
Knowledge Of AL GHAIB. They only do prove that Holy Apostle [S:AVS]
was reveled and aspired from ALL-H. This is discussed above that
ILM BIL VAH:Y is not ILM AL GHAIB. Engineer ALI: Mirza has
committed the same fallacy when he argued from the Traditions Of
AH:A:DI:S, which he has earlier committed when he argued from
A:YA:T Of ALQURA:N AL MUQADDAS. So instead of discussing each and
every Tradition, this is supposed to be a sufficient Reply and a
perfect Answer of all of his arguments from them.Some Points
specially Discussed by Engineer Ali Mirza.He mentions the following
points:=1]Divine Knowledge is Essential and the Knowledge Is
Bestowed.2] Divine Knowledge is Eternal [QAD:IM] and Knowledge id
Temporal [H:A:DIS:.]3]Divine Knowledge is Infinite [LA MAH:DU:D]
and Knowledge is Finite [MAH:DU:D]But he did not mention that if
some one denies any one of the above,whether he remains a Muslim or
not????And is there an IJMA: on these Issues.Why Engineer Ali Mirza
did not mention these points is a very important question.Some
discussion is needed in this context. 19] An Urdu Translation
Published by K.S.A Engineer Ali Mirza: has also argued from a
translation of Holy Qura:n published from the Kingdom Of Saudi
Arabia.This translation is made by Maulana: Muh:ammad of Juna
Garhh. But the commentary is made by S:ALAH:UDDIN:N YUSUF.It is
reviewd byDr. Vas:iyullah Bin Muh:ammad Abba:s AND Akhtar Jama:l.On
page 192 the commentator does say that ALL-H informs ILM AL GHAIB
to his APOSTLES. This is a terrible mistake.The commentator and the
reviewers have done an error and they over looked the difference
between ILM AL GHAIB andIT:T:ILA: ALAL GHAIB. The latter is not a
type of :ILM AL GHAIB but a type of ILM BIL IT:T:ILA:.So it is
requested to the KING OF THE KINGDOM TO TAKE NOTICE OF THE ERROR
and CHANGE IT IMMEDIATELY.Otherwise Musrics like ALI Mirza and
Ali-Mirzais [His followers] WILL TRY TO MISGUIODE MISLIMS OF THE
WORLD.I suggest that it is necessary that Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia
should make an other commentary,by a better commentator.How ever as
for this commentator I think it is an error of pen. His error was
not detected by two reviewers.May ALL-H forgave their Error [if it
is of pen].THIS ERROR OF PEN HAS OCCURRED AT SOME PLACES. Since on
page 358 the very same commentator categorically denies ILM ;AL
GHAIB FROM EVERY ONE EXCEPT ALL-H. Note there may be a number of
spelling mistake which shall Insha Allah be removed latter.Note.
Arabic Terms and their translations are used Alternatively.Note
Capatilization Of Letters are either of Majesty or they shew
emphasis.Note C is often used for K since K kis nlot classical
Latin word.NOTE:=One of the scholar has opined that ALI MIRZA is a
student \disciple of Husain Najfi of Sarghodha and has shewn
several examples that he actually follow Husain Najfi instead of
Shaikh Zubaur Ali Zai. Najfi is a Neo Mutazilite Is:.na Ashrite,
and Ali Mirza appears to follow him. His hatred of Banu Umaiyah in
general and Saiyiduna Mua:viah RD in particular can be traced back
to Husain Najfi instead of Shaikh Zubair Ali Zai, but he wrongly
ascribes in to Shaikh Ali Zai to misguide Salafite minded
people.The task of Ali Mirza is to inject Shiism in SALAFISM in
Particular and In All three sects of Sunnism ie
Ashairah,Maturidiyah and Salfiah in general.AL AYA:Z:. BILLAHI
TAA:LA;.
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