Downing, Karley - GOV From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: To: Sunday, February 27, 201111:56 AM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business Yes, the ones on the Jist. Not all state employees . . From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 23:05:22 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business So they get paid time off for union work? From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:56 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business No. This is time off in addition to vacation time, sick leave, or personal time. From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:56:50 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business Saying they used leave time for union activity, isn't that just volunteering on their off time? From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV ·Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW. Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray; Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy- OSER 12
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: To:
Sunday, February 27, 201111:56 AM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Yes, the ones on the Jist. Not all state employees .
. From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 23:05:22 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
So they get paid time off for union work?
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:56 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
No. This is time off in addition to vacation time, sick leave, or personal time.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:56:50 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Saying they used leave time for union activity, isn't that just volunteering on their off time?
From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV
·Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray; Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy- OSER
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Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave arid don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P- DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies)
. Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and BOO names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: To:
Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:42 AM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
No. This is time off they get due to contracts provisions.
From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:41 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Subject: Fw: ·Employee time off for union business
Is this just folks volunteering on their day off? Or is there something more to this?
Trying to find out before gov goes on tv in am
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16 PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Graci, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importam;e: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real
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jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L- OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009 .. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: 27, 2011 6:46AM To: Subject: Fw: Employee time off for union business
27,000 hours of union work on taxpayer time
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:56 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
"No. This is time off in addition to vacation time, sick leave, or personal time.
From:-Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:56:50 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Saying they used leave time for union activity, isn't that just volunteering on their off time?
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time offfor union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA " Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time
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includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business. ·
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley- GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:29AM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; RE: From walkers office
Not sure we have an estimated number but here is a relevent fact. ...
The number of Indiana state employees is at its lowest level since 1979, and Hoosiers are getting better service from their government. Indiana has the lowest state government employment per capita of any state.
Lots of examples of better service-- BMV won best in nation two years running; child protection services has won national awards for improvements; road building at an all time high water mark (thanks to our toll road lease agreement but also better project/resource management); triple A bond rating because of well-run government
From: Date:
"Schrimpf, Chris- GOV" <[email protected]> 02/27/11 03:22Subject: From walkers office
Debbie- chris schrimpf here in gov walkers office, do you guys have any sort of estimate on the number of jobs that have been saved be of ur collective bargaining reforms?
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From: Schutt, Eric - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 201111:34 PM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Subject: Re:
I am pretty sure due to seniority. Ryan can confirm
-----Original Message-----. From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 09:17PM To: Schutt, Eric- GOV Subject:
Did the teacher of the year in mps getting fired be of collective bargaining actually happen?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 201111:05 PM Murray, Ryan M - GOV
Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
So they get paid time off for union work?
From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:56 PM
. To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
No. This is time off in addition to vacation time, sick leave, or personal time.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:56:50 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Saying they used leave time for union activity, isn't that just volunteering on their off time?
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16 PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy- OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time
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includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the sa·me week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L-OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L- OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached Spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 201111:04 PM Murray, Ryan M - GOV
Subject:
Thanks
-----Original Message----From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV
Re:
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:53 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Subject: Re:
She was laid off because she lacked seniority. MPS needed to lay off about 480 teachers, and because the collective bargaining agreement specified that the least senior teachers must be laid off first, she lost her job.
Her actual award was Outstanding First Year Teacher.
-----Original Message----From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:50:42 2011 Subject:
Was the milwaukee teacher of the year fired be of collective bargaining?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: SattJrdaty, February 26, 201111:04 PM To: Subject: Fw:
So I think this is a fiscal issue be if schools ever have to cut back they are unable to keep the best teachers be of collective bargaining, directly impacting our kids education.
-----Original Message----From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:53 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Subject: Re:
She was laid off because she lacked seniority. MPS needed to lay off about 480 teachers, and because the collective bargaining agreement specified thatthe least senior teachers must be laid off first, she lost her job.
Her actual award was Outstanding First Year Teacher.
-----Original Message----From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Sat Feb 25 19:50:42 2011 Subject:
Was the milwaukee teacher of the year fired be of collective bargaining?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 201110:56 PM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Subject: Re: Employee time oft for union business
No. This is time off in addition to vacation time, sick leave, or personal time.
From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:56:50 2011 Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Saying they used leave time for union activity, isn't that just volunteering on their oft time?
. From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric- GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes
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any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
· For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L- OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes. 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Murray, Ryan M - GOV Saturday, February 26, 201110:54 PM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Re:
She was laid off because she lacked seniority. MPS needed to lay off about 480 teachers, and because the collective bargaining agreement specified that the least senior teachers must be laid off first, she lost her job.
Her actual award was Outstanding First Year Teacher.
-----Original Message----From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 19:50:42 2011 Subject:
Was the milwaukee teacher of the year fired be of collective bargaining?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Debbie Hohlt· Saturday, February Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Re: From walkers office
One additional item. Below are some helpful points in pushing back on a NYT story from this evening. NYT: Indiana Informs Wisconsin's PushOn Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:04PM, Debbie Hohlt <[email protected]> wrote: There is an awful NYT story on line-- we are trying to clean it up. Here are the message points we've shar.:d with Reporter and editors. I'm on bberry hard to send link but you can't miss it .. There is a new NYT story on line tonight. It is wrong in so many ways not sure where to start. Here are just a few points to note:Falls in the category of not providing complete info in the story.To start with, the governor's EO on collective bargaining did not eliminate seniority. It is still a primary factor in retention scores that are used to determine a layoff in merit agencies. About half of employees are such5300 is for a traditional health plan, the cadillac of options. We have other consumer driven plans available at much lower cost. Every employee at the Soldiers and Sailors Home was given the opportunity for other state employment.Aiso, the food service contract did not result in hundreds of layoffs. Less than a hundred. And we give those folks opportunity for other state jobs. Pay freezes in 09 and 10 were the result of national recession and plummeting revenue. Otherwise pay for performance had been instituted nicely.Finally, the governor has encouraged employees to come forward with ways to save taxpayer dollars. And since 06 a number have received $1,000 public service bonuses. ------Origiria I Message------From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Deborah M. Hohlt Subject: From walkers office Sent: Feb 26, 201110:22 PM
Debbie- chris schrimpf here in gov walkers office, doyou guys have any sort of estimate on the number of jobs that have been saved be of ur collective bargaining reforms?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Debbie Hohlt Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:34 PM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Re: From walkers office
Checking ... a\so there will be an awful NYT story tomorrow am-- on line tonight .. will send you what- sent to Gil\esopie for clean up ------Original Message------From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Deborah M. Hohlt Subject: From walkers office Sent: Feb 26, 201110:22 PM
Debbie- chris schrimpf here in gov walkers office, do you guys have any sort of estimate on the number of jobs that have been saved be of ur collective bargaining reforms?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:25 PM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Re:
Not teacher of the year but like best new teacher or something like this
-----Original Message----From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV To: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 21:17:30 2011 Subject:
Did the teacher of the year in mps getting fired be of collective bargaining actually happen?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:22 PM '[email protected]' From walkers office
Debbie- chris schrimpf here in gov walkers office, do you guys have any sort of estimate on the number of jobs that have been saved be of ur collective bargaining reforms?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:18 PM Werwie, Cu lien J - GOV
Did the teacher of the year in mps getting fired be of collective bargaining actually happen?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:17 PM Schutt, Eric - GOV
Did the teacher of the year in mps getting fired be of collective bargaining actually happen?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject:
Here are just a few points to note: >
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, 26, 2011 9:01 PM
Some facts about indiana to keep in mind on the nyt story
>Falls in the category of not providing complete info in the story. >To start with, the governor's EO on collective bargaining did not eliminate seniority. It is still a primary factor in retention scores that are used to determine a layoff in merit agencies. About half of employees are such > 5300 is for a traditional health plan, the cadillac of options. We have other consumer driven plans available at much lower cost. > Every employee at the Soldiers and Sailors Home was given the opportunity for other state employment. > >Also, the food service contract did not result in hundreds of layoffs. Less than a hundred. And we give those folks opportunity for other state jobs. > Pay freezes in 09 and 10 were the result of national recession and plummeting revenue. Otherwise pay for performance had been instituted nicely. >Finally, the governor has encouraged employees to come forward with ways to save taxpayer dollars. And since 06 a number have received $1,000 public service bonuses. ·
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From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:41 PM Archer, Cynthia - DOA
Subject: Attachments:
Fw: Employee time off for union business 2009 and 2010 Leave Codes 19 21.xls
Importance: High
Is this just folks volunteering on their day off? Or is there something more to this?
Trying to find out before gov goes on tv in am
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling·or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same dpta for2009. 38
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time). ·
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L-OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit · Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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LAST NAME FIRST NAME DEPT 2ND BARG LEAVE 19 LEAVE 21 TOTAL HOURS HOURLY WAGE DOLLARS VAN DEVENTER MICHAELJ 115 0 5 5 0 5 19.564 $97.82 TANNER MICHAEL C 115 0 6 8 0 8 17.375 $139.00 UKKOLA GREGORYW 115 0 6 6 0 6 14.482 $86.89 KEHREIN MARTIN J 115 0 5 411.3 0 411.3 25.816 $10,618.11 SCHULTZ DAVIDS 115 0 5 121.3 0 121.3 Z2.735 $2,757.75 DORN SHANNON M 115 0 5 5.3 0 5.3 19.073 $101.08 PRESSER DENNIS W 115 0 15 101 0 101 27.482 $2,775.68 HOPFENSPERGER ALAN 143 0 15 138.3 0 138.3 23.585 $3,261.80 STRASSER KATHLEEN L 143 0 5 3.15 0 3.15 24.616 $77.53 HU8ELER DUANE D 143 0 14 8 0 8 37.383 $299.06 WALLACE DAVID E 143 0 14 10 0 10 30.83 $308.30 STUB LASKI LEROY 143 0 14 8 0 8 35.548 $284.38 FR!SQUE CARLL 143 0 5 7 0 7 24.669 $172.68 KRUEGER CINDY A 143 0 2 0 8 8 15.106 $0.00 SCHMELZER MARGARET A 144 0 7 48 0 48 29.28 $1,405.44 JAHN PETER R 155 900 8 4 0 4 30.212 $120.84 MALY GAIL M 155 900 7 324 0 324 34.839 $11,287.83 VANDERVORT ANNE 155 900 8 18 0 18 28.61 $514.98 LARSON CHRISTOPHER 155 900 7 8 0 8 38.911 $311.28 RICHTER JEFFREY J 155 900 8 31 0 31 33.548 $1,039.98 MANDELL DIANE A 155 900 7 4 0 4 25.554 $102.21 PIZARRO GAlLS 165 0 7 70 0 70 25.627 $1,793.89 COBB TANYA M 165 0 2 9 0 9 14.07 $126.63 CHAPA SR PAUL 165 0 2 0 16 16 17.352 $0.00 CARTA ROSEMARY A 165 0 2 1.45 0 1.45 18.383 $26.65 LEATHERWOOD SHANCETHEA 165 0 7 8 0 8 24 $192.00 TURNER LOWETH!A 165 0 7 8 0 8 27.77 $222.16 BANKER SHERMAN J 245 0 13 32 0 32 28.345 $907.04 HERMANN BRUCE D 245 0 3 16 0 16 15.493 $247.88 WEN MERRY ANN 255 7 6 6.3 8 14.3 20.462 $128.90 MCNAMER FRANK A 255 8 3 0 5 5 15.753 $0.00 BENZEL PAMELA S 255 8 6 0 5 5 19.897 $0.00 OLDFIELD SUSAN L 255 8 6 0 13 13 18.758 $0.00 ANKLAM DEBRA K 255 2 2 0.45 0 0.45 18.71 $8.41 SPITZ COURTNEY 255 2 13 52 0 52 30.43 $1,582.36 JENKINS COURTNEY R 255 2 13 16 0 16 34.952 $559.23 MCCURRY CAROL A 370 0 15 112.3 0 112.3 29.5 $3,312.85 CONDRON JOHN G 370 0 15 8 0 8 25.852 $206.81 WHEAT GRETCHEN S 370 0 14 8 0 8 37.S65 $300.52 MCCANN EDWARDJ 370 0 5 20 1.3 21.3 26.825 $536.50 THORBJORNSEN RICHARD R 370 0 15 16 0 16 26.745 $427.92 MACKENZIE MATTHEWS 370 0 5 303 0 303 29.239 $8,859.41 NOWACZYK COLIN R 370 0 6 7.3. 0 7.3 20.184 $147.33 GROENIER MITCHELL E 370 0 5 16 0 16 29.239 $467.82 WILHORN SCOTT J 370 0 6 45.45 0 45.45 17.883 $812.77 KROEPLIN NATHAN A 370 0 5 4.3 0 4.3 24.738 $106.37 WARDELL SCOTT J 370 0 7 1.3 0 1.3 27.039 $35.14 BLAYLOCK MATTHEW D 370 0 6 37 0 37 17.883 $661.67 HOFFLAND CYNTHIA M 370 0 7 8 0 8 29.319 $234.55 BURSAW WILLIAM H 370 0 5 19 0 19 19.739 $37S.04 LEFEBVRE CONSTANCE I 370 0 15 0 0 0 26.487 $0.00 PETERS FREDERICK B 370 0 5 15 0 15 25.554 $383.31 ROMBERG WADE A 370 0 s 20 0 20 23.921 $478.42 LUDWIG BROOKE 370 0 15 34 8 42 25.302 $860.26 HASZ DARRYL L 370 0 2 0 24 24 16.56 $0.00 RAP ALA GARRY E 370 0 6 98.3 0 98.3 22.886 $2,249.68 POPPLE DUANE S 370 0 15 1 0 1 26.745 $26.74 WILSON RUSSELL H 370 0 5 160 0 160 29.54 $4,726.40 GILBERT KEVIN M 370 0 6 3 0 3 16.273 $48.81 DAYE STEVEN 370 0 5 3 0 3 30.759 $92.27 GOLDSWORTHY DAVID D 370 0 5 10 0 10 30.876 $308.76 STAHL MICHAEL D 370 0 5 3 0 3 29.239 $87.71 CONKEY MARKR 370 0 3 32 0 32 18.326 $586.43 MORANO THOMAS L 370 0 7 8 0 8 26.345 $210.76 SLABY CHAD A 370 0 5 17 0 17 24.164 $410.78 LAATSCH CHERYL L 370 0 15 106.3 0 106.3 25.557 $2,716.70 BAUMAN HENRY L 370 0 5 66.3 0 66.3 26.371 $1,748.39 WILLIAMS QUINN L 370 0 9 2 4 6 32.436 $64.87 LANDS NESS LARRY B 370 0 14 6 0 6 41.128 $246.76
GREEN JR RICHARD D 410 soo 12 193.45 0 193.45 24.183 $4,678.19 HALL KAREN K 410 500 12 0 8 8 26.989 $0.00 HANFLER NINA R 410 soo 12 0 8.3 8.3 26.73 $0.00
SPALLEES JON PAUL W 455 0 7 1.3 o. 1.3 35.3 $45.89 MCCORMACK JOHN 455 0 15 10 0 10 20.443 $204.43 OLSON KENNETH B 455 0 15 32 0 32 36.129 $1,156.12 SCHREIBER SARAJ 455 0 15 40 0 40 24.617 $984.68 TREFFINGER LISA M 45S 0 15 66 0 66 24.899 $1,643.33 WUENSCH CHIARA 455 0 15 27 0 27 26.745 $722.11 KASTEN DAVID A 465 100 3 5 0 5 23.175 $115.87 SEAY VERNON E 465 100 3 48 48 96 18.253 $876.14 ALBERTS BARRY L 465 100 5 33.1 0 33.1 18.908 $625.85 BEUSLE SHAWN L 465 100 5 0 8 8 15.389 $0.00 BERTRAM BRIAN S 465 100 5 1.5 0 1.5 19.408 $29.10 EBERSOLD MICHAELS 465 100 5 3 0 3 20.052 $60.15 HEISE NATHANIEL L 465 100 5 1.2 0 1.2 13.71 $16.45 HILLESHIEM JAMES T 465 100 5 1.2 0 1.2 15.199 $18.22 KLEPFER ROBERTG 465 100 5 1.15 0 1.15 20.523 $23.59 LUEDTKE KEVIN E 465 100 5 15.15 0 15.15 18.554 $281.09 MARTINEZ RICARDO J 465 100 5 3,3 0 3.3 14.799 $48.82 MOE ERIC J 465 100 5 7 0 7 19.598 $137.18 SALTZ MICHAEL T 465 100 5 1.3 0 1.3 17.502 $22.75 SCHNEIDER BRADLEY J 465 100 5 1.2 0 1.2 13.91 $16.69 WICK RYAN R 465 100 5 1.2 0 1.2 15.199 $18.22 GLODOWSKI RHONDA 485 200 2 0 31.15 31.15 17.926 $0.00 FRITSCHE MARCUS S 485 200 3 8 58 66 12.579 $100.63 GUTKNECHT SANDRA D 485 300 3 0 10 10 15.494 $0.00 HARRIS HEATHER M 485 200 3 0 67.2 67.2 14.709 $0.00 REPLOGLE ANDREW J 485 200 3 0 15.3 15.3 21.605 $0.00 ANDERSON SHARI L 485 200 6 198 33.45 231.45 20.82 $4,122.36 BUZA BARBARA E 485 200 6 168 66 234 22.382 $3,760.17 COLDEN ELESHA J 485 200 6 198,3 39.3 238 15.802 $3,133.53 CUNNINGHAM NARAZEAH D 485 300 6 0 7.2 7.2 15.415 $0.00 FOX TERRY J 485 300 6 1.3 0 1.3 22.109 $28.73
GOFF JODY LYNN 485 300 6 0 4.15 4.15 17.542 $0.00 GRIMSLEY JAMIE A 485 200 6 0 23.3 23.3 15.027 $0.00 HOLMES PATRICIA L 485 300 6 0 10 10 20.056 $0.00 JENSEN THERESA L 485 200 6 191.3 118.3 310 25.155 $4,812.14 JOHNSON TAMMY L 485 300 6 0 3.3 3.3 16.189 $0.00 JOHNSON DEAN 485 200 6 192 70.15 262.15 18.508 $3,553.53 KRIEN LINDA L 485 300 6 0 4.45 4.45 17.735 $0.00 LUCHT SUSAN L 485 200 6 163.45 39.45 203.3 22.613 $3,696.08 MAGNANT TERRY J 485 200 6 168 23.45 191.45 16.574 $2,784.43 PAYTON WANDA D 485 300 6 0 43.3 43.3 15.415 $0.00 PERSON LARITA A 485 300 6 0 4.45 4.45 14.409 $0.00 PETERSON EMMIE L 485 200 6 0 3 3 14.001 $0.00 SCHULKE GAIL L 485 200 6 0 2.05 2.05 16.962 $0.00 SHEPHERD MARYC 485 300 6 7.45 32.1S 40 15.221 $113.38 STEVENS WENDY M 485 200 6 0 3 3 14.409 $0.00 WIERZBA CATHLEEN M 485 200 6 0 2 2 17.929 $0.00 WINFORD KIMBERLY 485 300 6 0 29.3 29.3 16.189 $0.00 BELLAIRE KATIE A 485 300 11 0.15 0 0.15 29.904 $4.48 CHAPMAN SIRENA M 485 300 11 1 0 1 30.338 $30.33 DIBBLE SUSAN F 48S 300 11 8 0 8 31.68 $253.44 FRIEL BETHM 485 200 11 0 16 16 33.084 $0.00 GUY ANT MICHELE LK 485 200 11 0 3.4 3.4 30.329 $0.00 IVES SANDRA D 485 200 11 54.15 0 54.15 33.566 $1,817.59 LUNDE KAREN E 485 200 11 0 8 8 31.68 $0.00 MOREY DEBORAH A 485 200 11 0 0.59 0.59 36.085 $0.00
. RENDALL CYNTHIA A 485 200 11 148.45 0 148.45 32.141 $4,771.32 STREET CINDY M 485 300 11 1 41.1 42.1 29.904 $29.90 DIETTERT STEVEN E 505 0 3 0 16 16 12.229 $0.00 BRANDL DENISE J 505 0 7 8 0 8 24.697 $197.57 DRISCOLL JOHN 505 0 7 16 0 16 34.967 $559.47 FRIES JOHN A 505 0 7 4 0 4 28.793 $115.17 KENDALL JOHN M 505 0 7 0.5 0 0.5 45.158 $22.57 MALY JENNIFER A 505 0 7 8 0 8 26.147 $209.17
PETERSON BILLY JO M 505 0 7 8 0 8 28.828 $230.62 REDFORD SARA E 505 0 7 7.3 0 7.3 25.843 $188.65 SMITH KITTlE 505 0 7 8 0 8 29.525 $236.20
SMITH BARBARA ELL 505 0 7 12 0 12 23.201 $278.41 SMITH GARYE 550 0 21 5 0 s 44.449 $222.24 ZAWIKOWSKI JOAN E 550 0 21 8 0 8 48.563 $388.SO
CAP ADONA ANNIE M 566 0 2 97.15 30.15 127.3 15.531 $1,508.82 ClAMPITT KEITH R 566 0 2 6 0 6 16.099 $96.59 HENKE TRICIA K 566 0 2 0 8 8 13.026 $0.00 MARTINIAK DONALD W 566 0 2 31.15 0 31.15 15.359 $478.42 POPE BARBARA J 566 0 2 1.15 13 14.15 15.997 $18.38 RALSTON SHEILA J 566 0 2 2 18 20 18.546 $37.09 VIRNIG IRENE L 566 0 3 0.35 0 0.35 12.789 $4.47 KRONQUIST COLLEEN M 566 0 6 0 8 8 16.484 $0.00 ATTOE LOWELL R 566 0 7 16 0 16 35.393 $566.28 FOESTE ARTHUR E 566 0 7 56 0 56 40.663 $2,277.12 GEORG GREGORY R 566 0 7 735 0 735 28.244 $20,759.34 HILKER LINDA L 566 0 7 10 0 10 39.425 $394.25 HOFFHEIN BARBARA 566 0 7 4 0 4 20.895 $83.58 JANZ JR RONALD 566 0 7 3.3 0 3.3 18.255 $60.23 JORDAN GWENDOLYN L 566 0 7 12 0 12 25.109 $301.30 KMETZ SCOTT E 566 0 7 8 0 8 32.266 $258.12 MERTENS WAYNE R 566 0 7 25.55 0 25.55 25.153 $642.65 PRICE JR HURLEY L 566 0 7 5 0 5 27.023 $135.11 SPEAR DENNIS R 566 0 7 8 0 8 27.122 $216.97 STEFFENS KEVIN M 566 0 7 3.3 0 3.3 41.626 $137.35 STEFFES JANE A 566 0 7 26 0 26 31.312 $814.11 WHITCHER TIMOTHY L 566 0 7 28.3 !! l&3 ~ $762.19
16,900 7,355 24,226 17,386 $458,502
Reimbursement from Unions (from OSER) -$266,636
$191,866
Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, 26, 2011 8:39 PM To: Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Before we use this, I'm checking to see if this is really just them volunteering on their off day.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV ::>at.uruay, February 26, 2011 07:56PM
This might be good to debut tomorrow morning.
From: Murray, Ryan M - GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16 PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike- DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple Clays ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes
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any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L- OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L- OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted, There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: To:
Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:57 PM Murray, Ryan M - GOV
Subject: Re: Employee time off for union business
Saying they used leave time for u·nion activity, isn't that just volunteering on their off time?
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - OOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - OOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - OOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Oonnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, Oavid P - OOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
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I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L- OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. At the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and 800 names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To: Subject: Attachments:
Importance:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
~ 26,20117:56 PM
Fw: Employee time off for union business 2009 and 2010 Leave Codes 19 21.xls
High
This might be good to debut tomorrow morning.
From: Murray, Ryan M- GOV Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 06:27 PM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cc: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: FW: Employee time off for union business
More costs of collective bargaining. 27,000-37,000 hours of leave time for union activity. This excludes the UW.
Ryan Murray Director of Policy and Legislative Affairs Office of the Governor Main: 608-266-1212 Email: [email protected]
From: Archer, Cynthia - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:16PM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Huebsch, Mike - DOA; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Jensen, Jodi - DOA Cc: Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER; Schmiedicke, David P - DOA; Kopp, Kathy - OSER Subject: Employee time off for union business Importance: High
A couple days ago I sent to you the ·employee cost for union activity for Milwaukee County. Attached is a spreadsheet that indicates the amount of money the state has paid for employee time spent on union business. The data excludes uw.
In 2010, the state spent $433,300 for employee time spent on union business per the union contract provisions. This figure represents only the salary amount (not benefits) related to over 27,000 of employee hours. If you count paid and unpaid time off, state employees spent over 37,000 hours (the equivalent of almost 18 FTE) on union business during work time. This does not include the corresponding time spent by management staff during bargaining. Union time includes release time for bargaining purposes, training, union meetings. It may include more. For example in MC it attending county board meetings was counted as union business. I am checking on the definition of union business for the state and will get back to you in terms of what else is included.
Keep in mind, with unpaid time off, we still pay benefits and the employees still accrue their vacation, sick leave, etc while on unpaid leave. Also, when you think of the total hours, including unpaid, this is time spent away from doing their real jobs and duties, thus requiring either other employees backfilling or overtime. Finally, if a represented staff member takes · any time off for union business, it counts as being in work status and therefore they could still get overtime during the same week they are off on union business.
Tab 2 shows the same data for 2009.
The UW is preparing the same data for us, but we not have it yet.
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For illustrative purposes, you may want to count the number of represented staff devoted to this effort on the attached (I have to leave and don't have time).
I would like to especially thank David Schmiedicke who assisted us in getting this info from our payroll system.
From: Schmiedicke, David P - DOA Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:11 PM To: Archer, Cynthia - DOA; Gracz, Greg L - OSER; O'Donnell, Jessica L - OSER Subject: Bargaining Unit Leave Time Information
The attached spreadsheet includes payroll data for codes 19 and 21. There are two tabs-- one for calendar year 2010 and one for calendar year 2009. The spreadsheet has the following columns:
Last Name First Name Agency Code Subunit Code (only relevant for certain agencies) Bargaining Unit Code 19 Hours Code 21 Hours Total Hours Hourly Wage Dollars
The names are sorted by Agency Code. AI the bottom of the listing, the reimbursement data from OSER has been deducted. There are between 700 and BOO names on each list.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
Dave
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent To:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:51 PM Murray, Ryan M - GOV
Was the milwaukee teacher of the year fired be of collective bargaining?
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Downing, Karley - GOV
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
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Army 1st Lt. Daren M. Hidalgo is expected to return to Wisconsin on Sunday [Feb. 27]. Funeral arrangements are still being finalized.
However, for planning purposes only, the Casualty Assistance Officer and funeral home director have informed me that his family is currently planning to have his funeral service on Tuesday 'OR' Wednesday with visitation from 3-8 p.m. and service at 8 p.m. (NOTE: THIS IS STILL TENTATIVE)
The visitation and service will both take place at Saint Anthony on the Lake Church in Pewaukee, located at W280 N2101 Hwy ss.
As soon as dates and times are finalized I will send out another update.
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-----Original Message----From: Staab, Joy A CPT NGWI Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:02 PM To: Dunbar, Donald P Brig Gen NGWI; Anderson, Peter K LTCNGWI; Stopper, George E CSM NGWI; Legwold, Scott D BG NGWI; Gross, Tammy L LTC NGWI; Barron, Julio R Col NGWI; Krenz, Craig T CW4 NGWI; Bair, Margaret BrigGen USAF ANG WIHO/ZSECl; McCoy, John BrigGen USAF ANG WI , Kari L W01 NGWI; Greenwood, Kevin J COL NGWI; Cariello, Dominic A BG NGWI; Walters, Jason R SSG NGWI; Mills, Jamie M TSgt USAF ANG WIHO/ZSEC1; Olson, Larry L. Mr NGWI; Paulson, Jeffrey D COL NGWI; Sweet, Russell J LTC NGWI; Watkins, Stephen E LTC NGWI; Anderson, Peter K LTC NGWI; 'Brian.Hagedorn@wisconsin '· '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; NGWI JOC; Chisholm, James
I regret to inform you that as released by DoD (below) Army 1st Lt. Daren M. Hidalgo, 24, of Waukesha, Wis., died Feb. 20 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to 3rd Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment, Vilseck, Germany.
Funeral arrangements are pending, but expected to take place in Waukesha. I will send out additional updates as more details become available.
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DOD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
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1st Lt. Daren M. Hidalgo, 24, of Waukesha, Wis., died Feb. 20 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to 3rd Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment, Vilseck, Germany.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, February 2011 2:52 PM To: Schutt, Eric - Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Nyt article on indiana and daniels Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Indiana Informs Wisconsin's Push on Unions
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Published: February 27, 2011
MADISON, Wis.- Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and other officials who are pushing to eliminate or weaken collective bargaining by government employees say their goal is to save millions of dollars and increase government's flexibility to run its operations.
The experience of a nearby state, Indiana, where Gov. Mitch Daniels eliminated bargaining for state employees six years ago, shows just how much is at stake, both for the government and for workers. His 2005 executive order has had a sweeping impact: no raises for state employees in some years, the elimination of seniority preferences and a far greater freedom to consolidate state operations or outsource them to private companies.
Evaluating the success of the policy depends on where you sit.
"It's helped us in a thousand ways. It was absolutely central to our turnaround here," Mr. Daniels said in an interview. Without union contracts to slow him down, he said, it has been easy for him to merge the procurement operations of numerous state agencies, saving millions of dollars. One move alone- outsourcing and consolidating food service operations for Indiana's 28 prisons- has saved the state $100 million since 2005, he said. Such moves led to hundreds of layoffs.
For state workers in Indiana, the end of collective bargaining also meant a pay freeze in 2009 and 2010 and higher health insurance payments. Several state employees said they now paid $5,200 a year in premiums, $3,400 more than when Mr. Daniels took office. Earlier in his tenure, Mr. Daniels adopted a merit pay system, with some employees receiving no raises and those deemed to be top performers getting up to 10 percent.
Andrea Helm, an employee at a children's home in Knightstown, Ind., said that soon after collective bargaining was ended and the union contract expired, coveted seniority preferences disappeared, "I saw a lot of employees who had 20, 30 years on the· job fired," she said. "I think they were trying to cut the more expensive people on top to make their budget smaller."
Mr. Walker is trying to persuade Wisconsin lawmakers not only to emulate Indiana at the state level, but also to extend the bargaining restrictions to local governments. He would allow bargaining on only wages, and he argues that, by banning negotiations on subjects like outsourcing, health coverage, workloads and seniority, his plan will be a boon for taxpayers at every level of government.
For example, Mr. Walker estimates that school districts across the state could save $68 million a year if the districts were free to use the state employee health plan instead of the teachers' union plan. "If local governments aren't given the tools they need to help them make cuts, they will have to lay off people and that can hurt public services," he said in
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an interview.
Teachers' union officials said they had traded wage gains to keep their health plan, adding that districts could use cheaper plans, but that would result in worse coverage for teachers.
Bob Ziegelbauer, county executive of Manitowoc County and an independent state assemblyman, said Mr. Walker's legislation would give him far more flexibility. For instance, it would eliminate union rules that have made it hard to close a children's detention center that holds just one youth, a move that would save about $300,000 a year.
Union seniority rules can be especially confounding, Mr. Ziegelbauer said. He said that when he eliminated one clerical position in the county courthouse, the person who held that job bumped another person because she had more seniority. Ultimately four other workers bumped less senior workers, forcing the county to spend weeks retraining everyone involved.
"With collective bargaining in the public sector, it's, 'You can't make me,'" he said. "It's hard to change anything unless the union lets you."
Union officials say that collective bargaining provides workers with important protections against retaliation, age discrimination and management decisions that sometimes change with the political winds.
"Layoffs may not be based on merit or effectiveness, but on anything management wants it to be," said Mary Bell, president of the Wisconsin Education Association Council, which represents 98,000 public school employees.
Ms. Bell said that experienced, high-salary teachers would have targets on their heads and that class sizes would grow bigger without union prodding.
Jim Mills, a longtime welfare worker and union activist in New Castle, Ind., said a big problem with ending collective bargaining was.that workers who had ideas to improve government agencies or services became scared to stick their neck out and make suggestions to their bosses.
"If we saw there was a bottleneck and something didn't work and told them, it was 'Get lost, you've got to do it the way we told you or you can leave,'" Mr. Mills said. He noted that after bargaining was banned, his union local dwindled to just 12 members from 260, partly because workers were scared management would know who still paid union dues.
Mike Huggins, the city manager of Eau Claire, Wis., said Mr. Walker's push to curb bargaining could make management more difficult at the city level because it would hurt municipal employees' morale and end the labor-management cooperation that he said had yielded excellent ideas to improve services to the public.
He cited a new effort in which Eau Claire saves money for itself and 11 surrounding communities by providing roundthe-clock emergency medical service coverage. "All these practices and working relationships we've developed over the years would go away,'' he said.
If there is one thing the two sides agree on, it's that an end to collective bargaining will lead to far weaker public sector unions. Mr. Daniels said that after he banned bargaining, membership in the unions for state workers nosedived by 90 percent, with workers deciding it was no longer worth paying dues to newly toothless unions.
A week after Mr. Daniels ended collective bargaining, the union representing Indiana's state troopers simply disbanded, with its president saying, "There's no use to have one if we can't do collective bargaining."
Mr. Walker has sought to reassure public employees that thanks to Wisconsin's civil service law, they will still have plenty of workplace rights even after their bargaining rights are slashed. The civil service law bars workers from being suspended or fired except for "just cause" and provides for administrative appeals.
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"The average worker is not going to see much change," Mr .. Walker said, beyond increased payments toward their pensions and health coverage.
But Rick Badger, executive director of a union representing 33,000 city and county workers in Wisconsin, said that civil service protections were far weaker and narrower than union protections. A government-appointed appeals panel, he said, is far less likely than a neutral arbitrator to rule for workers who challenge their firing.
"And most cities, counties and school districts don't even have .civil service rules," Mr. Badger said. Responding to such concerns, Republican lawmakers have modified Mr. Walker's bill so that grievance procedures would be extended to all public employees.
Though he supports Mr. Walker's proposals, Mr. Ziegelbauer voiced fears about an increase in unjustified dismissals, especially of more senior workers, if the legislation passes.
"I've talked to many teachers and public works employees in my county," he said, "and almost every conversation comes around to the impact on their seniority and their concerns that their boss doesn't like them and they won't be treated fairly, and frankly I think there's something to that."
From: Schutt, Eric- GOV Sent: Saturday, February To: Schrimpf, Chris -Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal
Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV
Maybe he talks about his offer was to get folks back from rt to work, but what we are doing is reasonable ... Just want us to think it through
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, 201111:04 AM To: Schutt, Eric - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still pos;siblle
If he's on the phone he just explains and says bye and we do the questions.
Your point is worth discussion though
From: Schutt, Eric - GOV Sen~ary 26, 201110:52 AM To:._.; Schrimpf, Chris- GOV; Gilkes, Keith- GOV; Murray, Ryan M- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Let's just remember, he just offered a compromise to the House dems who fled ...
From: Scott, Kevin - DOA Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:21 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:14 AM
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Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with.media?
From Sent: Satllrclav. February 26, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M- GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwfe, Cullen J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV . Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:21AM To: Scott, Kevin - DOA; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:19 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill.
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Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward nntil the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will detennine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains finn in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the
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jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: 26, 2011 11:17 AM To: Cc: Subject: Possible MTP line of question
I could envision them trying to get you off track with some sort of question dealing with this critique by a former NYT reporter on employee compensation. He basically argues that workers do contribute to their pension and benefits by not accepting higher wages. I've put a portion of his argument below. ·
Really Bad Reporting in Wisconsin: Who 'Contributes' to Public Workers' Pensions?
U David Cay JohnstonU I Feb. 24, 201112:16 PM EST
When it comes to improving public understanding of tax policy, nothing has been more troubling than the deeply flawed coverage of the Wisconsin state employees' fight over collective bargaining.
Economic nonsense is being reported as fact in most of the news reports on the Wisconsin dispute, the product of a breakdown .of skepticism among journalists multiplied by their lack of understanding of basic economic principles.
Gov. Scott Walker says he wants state workers covered by collective bargaining agreements to "contribute more" to their pension and health insurance plans.
Accepting Gov. Walker' .s assertions as fact, and failing to check, created the impression that somehow the workers are getting something extra, a gift from taxpayers. They are not.
Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin's pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.
How can that be? Because the "contributions" consist of money that employees chose to take as deferred wages- as pensions when they retire- rather than take immediately in cash. The same is true with the health care plan. If this were not so a serious crime would be taking place, the gift ofpublic funds rather than payment for services.
Thus, state workers are not being asked to simply "contribute more" to Wisconsin' s retirement system (or as the argument goes, "pay their fair share" of retirement costs as do employees in Wisconsin's private sector who still have pensions and health insurance). They are being asked to accept a cut in their salaries so that the state of Wisconsin can use the money to fill the hole left by tax cuts and reduc.ed audits of corporations in Wisconsin.
The labor agreements show that the pension plan money is part of the total negotiated compensation. The key phrase, in those agreements I read (emphasis added), is: "The Employer shall contribute on behalf of the employee." This shows that this is just divvying up the total compensation package, so much for cash wages, so much for paid vacations, so much for retirement, etc.
The collective bargaining agreements for prosecutors, cops and scientists are all on-line.
Reporters should sit down, get a cup of coffee and read them. And then they could take what they learn, and what the state website says about fringe benefits, to Gov. Walker and challenge his assumptions.
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And they should point out the very first words the state has posted at a web page on careers as a state employee (emphasis added):
The fringe benefits offered to State of Wisconsin employees are significant, and are a valuable part of an individual's compensation package.
Coverage of the controversy in Wisconsin over unions collective bargaining, and in particular pension plan contributions, contains repeated references to the phrase "contribute more."
The key problem is that journalists are assuming that statements by Gov. Scott Walker have basis in fact. Journalists should never accept the premise of a political statement, but often they do, which explains why so much of our public policy is at odds with well-established principles.
The question journalists should be asking is "who contributes" to the state of Wisconsin's pension and health care plans.
The fact is that all of the money going into these plans belongs to the workers because it is part of the compensation of the state workers. The fact is that the state workers negotiate their total compensation, which they then divvy up between cash wages, paid vacations, health insurance and, yes, pensions. Since the Wisconsin government workers collectively bargained for their compensation, all of the compensation they have bargained for is part of their pay and thus only the workers contribute to the pension plan. This is an indisputable fact.
Not every news report gets it wrong, but the narrative of the journalistic herd has now been set and is slowly hardening into a concrete falsehood that will distort public understanding of the issue for years to come unless journalists en masse correct their mistakes. From the Associated Press and The New York Times to Wisconsin's biggest newspaper, and every broadcast report I have heard, reporters again and again and again have written as fact what is nonsense
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To:
Subject:
Schutt, Eric - GOV Saturday, February 26, Schrimpf, Chris -Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
Maybe he talks about his offer was to get folks back from rt to work, but what we are doing is reasonable ... Just want us to think it through
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, 201111:04 AM To: Schutt, Eric - Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen:
If he's on the phone he just explains and says bye and we do the questions.
Your point is worth discussion though
From: Schutt, Eric- GOV Sent: February 26, 201110:52 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV; Gilkes, Keith- GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV
still possible
Let's just remember, he just offered a compromise to the House dems who fled ...
From: Scott, Kevin - DOA Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:21 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ary 26, 201110:14 AM To:- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:32 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
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We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: February 26, 2011 08:21 AM To: Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf [mailto Sent: Saturday, February 26, To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov.· Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats retnrn home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to
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negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled withthe situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: To:
Subject:
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
If he's on the phone he just explains and says bye and we do the questions.
Your point is worth discussion though
From: Schutt, Eric- GOV Sen~ry 26, 201110:52 AM To:-- Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Let's just remember, he just offered a compromise to the House dems who fled ...
From: Scott, Kevin - DOA Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:21 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ary 26, 201110:14 AM To:- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
From: Scott, Kevin - DOA Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ary 26, 2011 08:21AM To:--; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
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From: Chris Schrimpf i Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:19AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' retum hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill,
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Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation - aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum. ·
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
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Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, 2011 Schutt, Eric - GO'V; ll Werwie, Cullen J -Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We can discuss with daniels I imagine
From: Schutt, Eric , GOV
lkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
Sen~ary 26, 201110:52 AM · To:.._.... Schrimpf, Chris- GOV; Gilkes, Keith- GOV; Murray, Ryan M- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Let's just remember, he just offered a compromise to the House dems who fled ...
From: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:21 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ary 26, 201110:14 AM To:--- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
From: Sent: 26, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). Weare not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ry 26, 2011 08:21AM To:-- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
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· From: Chris Schrimpf Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most oftheir bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill,
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Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation - aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategy -Cullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would
· not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
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Schutt, Eric - GOV 26, 201110:52 AM Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
len J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
Let's just remember, he just offered a compromise to the House dems who fled ...
From: Sent: Sat1Jrda1y, 26, 2011 10:21 AM To: Schrimpf, i - GOV; Gilkes, Keith- GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, CUllen J- GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ry 26, 201110:14 AM To:-- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
From: Sent: Saturday, 2011 08:32 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:21 AM To:----- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Sub~eal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf rm•ilr.r,;
Sent: Saturday, February 26, To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would . occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
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"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Sent: 26, 201110:29 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
Schutt, Eric -Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I don't mind that idea, but we will need to be prepared to deal with the criticism that we are being slightly hypocritical. In the past we have said "this is a decision wisconsin will make." I'd be willing to bet some would ask: so its not ok for other outside groups or opponents to have a say in WI budgeting, how is this any different?
I think that can be answered, we'll just need to be prepared if we go that route.
From To: Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Sent: Sat 26 10:21:20 2011 Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~ry 26, 201110:14 AM To--- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
From--Sent:~6, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Se~ry 26, 2011 08:21AM To~ Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
F~~;,: Chris Schrimpf [mailt~~ Sent: Saturday, February 26, ~ To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
[@] Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward Until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday moming he ''wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will retum). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' retum hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
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Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations .. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
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Easy, we're informing the debate
From: Werwie, Cullen J- GOV
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Saturday, February 26, Werwie, Cullen J -Schutt, Eric - GOV Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
lkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV;
Sen~: Saturda , February 26, 201110:28 AM · To ·Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV Subject: Re: Cu len: eal still possible
I don't mind that idea, but we will need to be prepared to deal with the criticism that we are being slightly hypocritical. In the past we have said "this is a decision wisconsin will make." I'd be willing to bet some would ask: so its not ok for other outside groups or opponents to have a say in WI budgeting, how is this any different?
I think that can be answered, we'll just need to be prepared if we go that route.
Fro~ To: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV; Gilkes, Keith- GOV; Murray, Ryan M- GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Sent: Sat Feb 26 10:21:20 2011 Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Se~ary 26, 201110:14 AM To~ Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
From Sent: Saturday, 26, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: 26, 2011 08:21AM To: Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV
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Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf rm:•ilt,,·, Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
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The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to repmt. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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Downing, Karley - GOV
From: Sent: Saturday, ry 26, 201110:21 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV;
Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I actually like a presser with him on the phone.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Se~~ry 26, 201110:14 AM To~ Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a Jot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 08:32 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Se~ary 26, 2011 08:21AM To-- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf 1
Sent: Saturday, February 26, To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in notthem Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most oftheir bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategy-
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Cullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer .price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sent: Saturday, February 26, 201110:15 AM To: Scott, Kevin - DOA; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV;
Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
I have an idea, it may not be a good one. The press responds a lot more to our press conferences than our press releases. What if we reached out to mitch daniels, and asked him to join us at a presser and walk everyone through what collective bargaining reform meant for his state. If he couldn't come in person, maybe a conference call with media?
Sent: 26, 2011 08:32AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Sen!= ~ry 26, 2011 08:21AM To:-- Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
From: Chris Sd1rinnnf!ll Sent: Saturday, 26, 2011 08: To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
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Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
[§] Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward nntil the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's·perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
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Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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From: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:32 AM To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV; Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric- GOV;
Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Re: Cullen: Deal still possible
We aren't the first state to get rid of collective bargaining (we aren't, we are limiting it to base salary). We are not even the first Great Lakes state to do.
We need to get info out about Mitch Daniels did in 2005 in IN. We need to show how household income went up in his first term, how property taxes were frozen and we need to show what happened to government workers.
From: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen~: Saturda February 26, 2011 08:21 AM · To: Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: Cullen: eal still possible
From: Chris Schrimpf rm,,iltr>·l
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-J anesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
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@1 Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
'il'i" The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working ort changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public
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employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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From: Chris Schrimpf Sent: Saturday, February 26, To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV
Schrimpf, Chris - GOV ~ 26,20118:22 AM ~ Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt Eric - GOV Fw: Sen. Lassa: Communication is open with Republicans
· Subject: Sen. Lassa: Communication is open with Republicans
Sen. Lassa: Communication is open with Republicans Despite the rhetoric that continues to swirl around Gov. Scott Walker's budget proposal, state Sen. Julie Lassa is hopeful that she and fellow out-of-state Senate Democrats are close to a deal with their Republican counterparts.
Lassa and the rest of the state Senate's 14 Democrats have been in Illinois for more than a week. The lawmakers left Wisconsin on Feb. 17 in an effort to deny Senate Republicans the quorum needed to pass the budget bill.
Lassa said Friday that she and fellow Senate Democrats have recently been in discussions with Senate Republicans who also have concerns with elements of the bill, and stated that those discussions could soon lead to an agreement.
"Wehave had some good developments. The lines of communication are clearly open. We have told Senate Republicans that if they strip out some of the policy items, such as the collective bargaining (item) and the changes to SeniorCare and BadgerCare ... we could be there within hours," Lassa said. "Things are at a really critical point in time and I am really hopeful that we will have a break through within the next few days."
On Thursday, Wisconsin State Troopers were sent to the homes of the 14 senators to effort to find the absent lawmakers and encourage them to return. Lassa wasn't home when a trooper and a member ofthe Senate's Sergeant at Arms staff arrived at her home, but her husband, John Moe, and two young daughters were.
"It's one thing to be targeting us," she said, "it's totally another thing to be targeting our families."
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Schrimpf, Chris - GOV r"u1ua1v26, 20118:22 AM
Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Fw: Cullen: Deal still possible
To: Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Subject: Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent
~ Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
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"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
The Democrats' retum hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the govemor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a govemor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages. Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re~certify.
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Chris ~cr.rirrmtl Saturday, February Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Sen. Lassa: Communication is open with Republicans
Sen. Lassa: Communication is open with Republicans Despite the rhetoric that continues to swirl around Gov. Scott Walker's budget proposal, state Sen. Julie Lassa is hopeful that she and fellow out-of-state Senate Democrats are close to a deal with their Republican counterparts.
Lassa and the rest of the state Senate's 14 Democrats have been in Illinois for more than a week. The lawmakers left Wisconsin on Feb. 17 in an effort to deny Senate Republicans the quorum needed to pass the budget bill.
Lassa said Friday that she and fellow Senate Democrats have recently been in discussions with Senate Republicans who also have concerns with elements of the bill, and stated that those discussions could soon lead to an agreement.
"We have had some good developments. The lines of communication are clearly open. We have told Senate Republicans that if they strip out some of the policy items, such as the collective bargaining (item) and the changes to SeniorCare and BadgerCare ... we could be there within hours," Lass a said. "Things are at a really critical point in time and I am really hopeful that we will have a break through within the next few days."
On Thursday, Wisconsin State Troopers were sent to the homes of the 14 senators to effort to find the absent lawmakers and encourage them to return. Lassa wasn't home when a trooper and a member of the Senate's Sergeant at Arms staff arrived at her home, but her husband, John Moe, and two young daughters were.
"It's one thing to be targeting us," she said, "it's totally another thing to be targeting our families."
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Chris Sch';ln ,nf< Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:20 Schrimpf, Chris - GOV Cullen: Deal still possible
Janesville senator still in Illinois; return hinges on negotiations
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, doesn't expect to come home soon.
Cullen spoke to the Beloit Daily News in a phone conversation Friday from his undisclosed location in northern Illinois. Cullen is one of 14 Democratic state senators who fled Wisconsin in order to stall the progress of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial collective bargaining bill.
The bill passed through the Wisconsin Assembly Friday morning. Fifty-one Republicans approved the bill to strip public employee unions of most of their bargaining rights, with four GOP representatives opposing the bill. Thirteen Democrats voted against the bill, with none in favor. Twenty-five Democrats did not vote at all, along with two Republicans and one independent.
[§] Discussions now move to the state Senate, which cannot move forward until the missing Democrats return home.
Cullen said Friday morning he "wasn't aware" the bill had passed, but said it was "inevitable" that it would occur.
Cullen would not say where he is currently stationed. He said he hopes the absent senators can return home before long, but does not know when that might happen.
"I don't have any plans to return soon. The negotiations will determine when that happens, and I don't want to negotiate in public," he said. "I don't know the answer to (when the Democrats will return). I'm very hopeful that we can be back within the next week. I plan to come back and vote when the negotiations have been completed."
Exactly what negotiations Cullen refers to is unclear, because Walker has said he will not negotiate the terms of the pending legislation. Cullen, however, believes a deal is still possible.
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The Democrats' return hinges on Republicans' willingness to reach across the aisle and compromise on the bill, Cullen said.
"I've been reaching out to and talking to them. We're starting to make the slight beginnings of progress," he said. "We've been working on changing some of the language of it. I don't have any real substantial conclusions to report. I am certain they're willing to talk."
Wisconsin has become the focal point of national news in recent days. Cullen dismisses any suggestion that the Democrats' flight, coupled with the situation as a whole, is damaging the state's reputation.
"That hasn't been the case. We've had peaceful demonstrations. I think that's OK," he said. "As long as people are demonstrating in an adult, reasonable way, I think it's perfectly fine."
Cullen said that while he does not have any strong objection to the way Walker has responded to the situation -aside from the now infamous prank phone call in which the governor revealed details of his strategyCullen remains firm in his belief that the proposal is more about union-busting than addressing the state's budget crisis.
"I think he's handled it like a governor should, except the comments on the telephone call. He was duped' into that," he said. "He's shown that his priority is to make Wisconsin the first state that destroys collective bargaining rights. It's just the first step in a national effort."
Cullen was elected to the state Senate in November. He had previously served in the same seat from 1975-1987.
Under Walker's plan, most collective bargaining rights would be removed for most state and local public employees starting July 1, except when it comes to wages, Police, fire and state patrol unions would be exempted from the legislation and would retain full bargaining rights.
Any salary affected unions seek could be no more than the consumer price index, unless voters in the jurisdiction approved a higher raise by referendum.
Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the next contract is settled. Public employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. Unions would have to hold a vote each year to re-certify.
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This is really good.
From: Schrimpf, Chris- GOV Sen.~t: Frida. FeJ;>rUil 25, 2011 08:31PM To:---Cc: Gilkes, Keith - GOV; Schutt, Eric - GOV; Murray, Ryan M - GOV; Werwie, Cullen J - GOV Subject: Fw: John Fund Column
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Wisconsin's Newest Progressive
The Republican governor wants a new social contract.By JOHN FUND
The state Capitol building in Madison has been occupied round-the-clock by protesters for nearly two weeks. Fourteen Democratic state senators are still on the lam, refusing to allow a vote on a budget-repair bill. And Gov. Scott Walker has been called everything from a new Hitler to rotting cheese.
Yet the governor sounds unflappable. "I just finished eight years as county executive in Milwaukee last December," he told me during a telephone interview. "I've dealt with unions and angry legislators. I know anytime you challenge the status quo you have to be bold-and take the heat."
Mr. Walker's challenge to the status quo is nothing if not bold. Wisconsin, he says, faces an immediate $13 7 million budget shortfall and a $3.6 billion deficit over the next two years. Part of his plan for putting the state on a sustainable fiscal path is to have state workers contribute more to their pensions and health-insurance plans, although they would still pay less than the national average for government workers.
But what's made him a national target of rage--or a hero, depending on your point of view-are his proposals to limit the power of public-employee unions. "We have to cut money the state sends counties and cities," he says, and "the collective bargaining changes I propose will save them more than those cuts by giving them the flexibility private employers have to control costs."
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He's confident his plan will become law. The state assembly passed it in the wee moming hours,of Friday, and pressure is building on the state Senate Democrats who have fled the state to prevent a vote. If the state doesn't pass a budget and refinance $165 million in debt by Tuesday, Mr. Walker will have to send out 1,500 layoff-atrisk notices to state employees. Ultimately, 5,000 state workers and an equal number of local employees could lose their jobs.
"I very much want to avoid laying people off," Mr. Walker says. But his experience as county executive taught him that "not everyone feels that way. During budget crises I would push for a couple of weeks where workers would only put in 35 hours so we didn't have to cut jobs, but union leaders would say no. It's reactionary." He says there's a gulf between the interests of union leaders and those of their members. "When they say it's about worker rights, it's really about big union bosses running their own political dynasties." That's why the parts of his plan that most stick in the craw of union leaders are the ones that would limit their power.
For one, the proposal would require that public-employee unions be recertified annually by a majority vote of all their members, not merely by a majority of those who cast ballots. The bill would also end the government's practice of automatically deducting union dues from employee paychecks. "If workers have freedom of choice on their own dues money and a real voice in their union," the govemor says, "they may get better representation." ·
It is deeply symbolic that this epic battle over the direction of govemment is taking place in the Badger State. Wisconsin was the birthplace of the modem progressive state in the early 20th century under Gov. Robert "Fighting Bob" LaFollette, who championed progressive taxation and the nation's first worker's-compensation system. In 1959, Gov. Gaylord Nelson made Wisconsin the first state to grant public employees collectivebargaining rights.
But in more recent years Wisconsin has also been an incubator of the conservative counterargument to the welfare state. In the 1990s, Republican Gov. Tommy Thompson helped push through welfare reform and school-choice programs that have been emulated across the country. By modemizing the relationship between state employees and the govemment, Mr. Walker, like Mr. Thompson before him, hopes to contain the excesses of the past-to enable the modem welfare state to live within its means.
Mr. Walker says that the employee rights that people care about are protected by civil-service rules, not collective bargaining. "We have the strongest protections in the country on grievance procedures, merit hiring, and just cause for disciplining and terminating employees," he says. "None of that changes under my plan." Mr. Walker notes that the single largest group affected by his proposal are the 30,000 workers at the University of Wisconsin who were only granted collective-bargaining rights in 2009. "If they only got them two years ago, how can you say they're set in stone?"
It's unclear who will benefit as this debate drags on, but his own experience in Milwaukee County suggests that a lengthy debate clarifies issues for the public. "I would go on reality tours," he told me. "Critics would call them 'gloom-and-doom' tours, but in the end people came to agree with me on what needed to be done." His record bears that out. Milwaukee County is a Democratic bastion, having given John McCain only 31% of its votes in 2008. But Mr. Walker won with convincing majorities three times, winning 59% in his last re-election in 2008.
"I won because people will ultimately respond to the truth," he says. "There is an unseen reservoir of support out there for leaders who will do the right thing." Other governors-he cites New Jersey Gov. Chris Christieare proving as much.
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Aside from short stints working for IBM and the Red Cross, the 43-year-old governor has spent his life as a state legislator and county executive. And he insists he is only doing what he promised voters he would do during his campaign-a contention hotly disputed by his critics.
Mr. Walker points to a campaign mailing last year by the American Federation of Teachers affiliate in Wisconsin that cited newspaper reports that he wanted to "void parts of labor contracts" and curb collective bargaining. "I was accused then of wanting what I'm now proposing, so the complaint about being surprised is curious," he says.
The governor knows he has become a national lightning rod, but he says he was nonetheless surprised when President Obama jumped into the fray last week by saying that the governor's proposal to limit collective bargaining sounded like "an assault on unions." He finds it ironic that Mr. Obama criticized his collectivebargaining changes when federal workers lack the power to bargain for wages or benefits-a fact demonstrated last month when Mr. Obama imposed a wage freeze on all federal workers. Under Mr. Walker's proposal, Wisconsin unions could still bargain for cost-of-living raises or more if approved by a voter referendum.
I ask Mr. Walker if he thinks he has staked his entire governorship on this budget bill. He dodges the question, preferring to discuss the national implications of the debate. "I could see our success providing inspiration for people trying to get serious about controlling the federal budget and promoting economic growth," he muses. "Ultimately, we will only solve our problems if we get serious."