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byAWR HAWKINS (/COLUMNISTS/AWR-HAWKINS) 16 Dec 2012, 2:01 PM PDT POST A COMMENT
A troubling revelation has broken regarding a mental health bill
recently defeated in Connecticut during this calendar year. Had it
passed, that bill could have possibly taken Adam Lanza off the
streets so he would not have been free to commit his heinous act
on December 14.
In February 2012 (http://cga.ct.gov/2012/TOB/S/2012SB-00452-R00-SB.htm),
Connecticut Senate Bill 452 (SB452) was put forward to remedy the fact that Connecticut
was one of less than ten states in the U.S. to lack an "assisted outpatient treatment
(http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/4364)" (AOT) law.
But the bill was passed (http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus
/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=452&which_year=2012&SUBMIT1.x=11&
SUBMIT1.y=13&SUBMIT1=Normal) to Connecticut's Joint Committee on Judiciary in
March, where it quietly faded away because of opposition by those who viewed it as
"egregious (http://wagblog.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/involuntary-outpatient-
commitment-or-assisted-outpatient-treatment-kendras-law/)" and "outrageously
discriminatory."
Had this law passed, it may have forced Adam Lanza to be treated for his alleged mental
illness instead of allowing him to roam free, and ultimately to kill 26 persons and himself
in a vindictive rage (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/15/Report-
Connecticut-Shooting-Was-A-Revenge-Killing) on Friday.
Although there is some variation, the way these laws work in other states is simple: AOT
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laws preempt older statutes that only allow the mentally ill to be forcibly institutionalized
for treatment if they've done harm to themselves or others. This is possible because AOT
laws allow a state to institutionalize a mentally ill person for treatment if the state has
reason to suspect such institutionalization will prevent the individual from doing harm to
self or others.
Why didn't the legislation pass? Because the ACLU and other "civil liberties" groups and
individuals cried foul. The ACLU in particular said 452 would (http://www.cga.ct.gov
/2012/JUDdata/Tmy/2012SB-00452-R000329-David%20McGuire-%20ACLU-
TMY.PDF)"infringe on patients' privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can
medicate individuals without their consent." They also said it infringed on patient rights
by reducing the number of doctors' opinions necessary to commit someone to
institutionalization.
To be clear, no one can know that the passage of SB452 would have stopped Lanza for
sure, as there's no guarantee a doctor or mental specialist would have seen the warning
signs in time to institutionalize him for treatment.
However, it is worth noting that proponents of SB452 had the prevention of situations like
Friday's shooting in mind when they tried to provide Connecticut residents with another
layer of protection from the mentally ill (and criminal).
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A LIKE REPLY 15 minutes ago F
if anyone has any doubt about who is politicizing this terrible event, you only need to look to Mr. Obama as he
grand stands for the media. I am not worried about guns or frootloops, I feel the most dangerous place to be
on earth is to get between Barak Obama and a news camera.
SHAKEYJAKE
I usually agree with what I read on Breitbart, but you're WAAAY off-base in supporting any so-called "mental
health" bill that allows the state to forcibly institutionalize people on the flimsiest suspicion that they're "mentally
ill". Much of what is currently called "mental illness" used to be known as "personality".
As Thomas Szasz wrote: "Mental illness" is an expression, a metaphor that describes an
offending, disturbing, shocking, or vexing conduct, action, or pattern
of behavior, such as schizophrenia as an "illness" or "disease".
"If you talk to God, you are
praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia. If the dead talk
to you, you are a spiritualist; If you talk to the dead, you are a
schizophrenic."
While people behave and think in ways that are very disturbing, and
that may resemble a disease process (pain, deterioration, response to
various interventions), this does not mean they actually have a disease.
To Szasz, disease can only mean something people "have," while behavior
is what people "do". Diseases are "malfunctions of the human body, of
the heart, the liver, the kidney, the brain" while "no behavior or
misbehavior is a disease or can be a disease. That's not what diseases
are".
Szasz cited 'drapetomania' (a supposed mental illness that caused black slaves to flee captivity)
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as an example behavior which many in society did not approve of, being
labeled and widely cited as a 'disease', and likewise with women who did
not bow to men's will as having "hysteria". Psychiatry actively obscures the difference between (mis)behavior
and
disease, in its quest to help or harm parties to conflicts. By calling
certain people "diseased", psychiatry attempts to deny them
responsibility as moral agents, in order to better control them."
Maladjusted loners have rights too, last I checked.
A LIKE REPLY 25 minutes ago in reply to VivianDarkbloom F
I have a close friend who is mentally ill and if there wasn't a way to get him into a mental hospital, he
might be dead now. Of course, patients have their rights and can only be held for a certain period of
time and then they go into an out-patient treatment. I was alone in dealing with my friend and there
was nothing I could do without the right medications being administered so I called 911 for help. They
viewed the situation and took my friend to the hospital. I was at the end of my rope trying to deal with it
all on my own. My friend has thanked me for it and is grateful that there was help out there for him.
Unless you are dealing with someone who is mentally ill, you just don't know how hard it is.
YLEM
A LIKE REPLY 1 hour ago 1 Like F
[The ACLU in particular said 452 would "infringe on patients' privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can
medicate individuals without their consent."]
___________________________________There are those who apparently believe,
the rights of a potentially dangerous person being free to roam,
are greater the rights of their eventual victims.
Since, being deprived of life itself, by such unpredictable individuals,
is the ultimate denial of rights, the right to exist.
NANOFLEX
A LIKE REPLY 1 hour ago in reply to nanoflex 1 Like F
I worked for Community Mental Health in the 1980's .. I believe if more people knew who was walking
amongst us they would ALL have a CCW.
Those who are determined to be mentally ill have more rights than you and I.
I was told if attacked I was not to fight back .. call for help that is all .. what good would that do ... the
police would not come into the facility without guns drawn. I found another job.
CATHERINE BARRETT
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
There is a good novel based on a true Aspergers patient that makes the topic understandable without too much
clinical. It is well and thoroughly researched but the author is not a psychologist. House Rules by Jodi Picoult.
JEANIE6
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
We need MORE guns and MORE prisons and MORE Mental Hospitals(to lock up crazies who 'might' commit
murders).
You're welcome,Breitbart
MICHAEL VALENTE
Once again, the liberals (ACLU THIS time) are found to be culprits in the situation. The left has denied forced
psychiatric treatment of those that need it (under proper judicial review), and also denied the teachers' and
principles the firearms needed to defend the kids. Voluntary concealed carry by some teachers might have
saved the kids. But, the left is secretly happy with the deaths because it helps them meet their insane
population control goals to prevent greenhouse gas emissions, while delivering a political football to attack the
second amendment. Their fake tears are crocodile tears.
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A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
So...........
The mentally ill are the problem with the majority of gun violence?
MICHAEL VALENTE
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
At least in America collectively you acknowledge when these tragedies occur...and offer condolences.
IMMIGRANT_FROM_SOCIALISM7
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
Had this law passed, it may have forced Adam Lanza to be treated for his alleged mental illness....To be clear,
no one can know that the passage of SB452 would have stopped Lanza for sure....
But heck, go ahead and write an article about it anyway.
REDRUM
A LIKE REPLY 29 minutes ago in reply to redrum F
at this point you moron ANYTHING would have helped!
MGBSE
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to redrum 2 Likes F
Just like we don't know why drunk drivers act irresponsibly and murder victims by drinking and driving,
lets ban all cars, cars are killing people, not the selfish irresponsible drinkers
OCB2
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
Would've, could've..... theoretical. NRA is about to get their ass handed to them because of a nut job.
YOMOMMA
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago 1 Like F
The mother was evidently getting a good amount of money from the divorce. I heard $200,000 a yr. She didn't
have to work and from the looks of the home she lived in this woman had enough money to have her son into a
private psychiatrist. The boy may or not been under the care of said dr. May or may not have been medicated.
May or may not have had a mental illness. We do not know enough about this case to be so judgmental. What
I do know is that people with mental illness is looked at by society with distain. The average person does not
understand it. People who have loved ones with mental illness become knowledgeable (if they take an interest
in it) so they can better understand what the person is going through and how best to help them, signs to look
for, treatment programs, resources, etc. It isn't an easy process to sometimes get people help. If a person is an
adult they have Rights. The families of these people are usually denyed any access to information because of
Privacy Laws. Assuming the person is competent enough to understand their problem and they can be helped
with medications, etc. then they will hopefully be responsible enough to take their meds and continue to see the
drs. So many people don't recognize they have problems or they stop taking their meds. Nobody can make
them take meds. Only if they 'do something' to harm themselves or to cause harm to others can the State have
juristicion to commit someone. Usually, people are taken care of in outpatient programs. The funding for these
outpatient programs and facilities are often not adequate, which is the fault of your State Legislators for nottaking this more seriously. Instead they more than likely will fund birth control and abortion clinics. Mental
Illness is devastating and ruins lives. But there can be some good results with the right kind of care and
treatment. Anybody is subject to having a mental illness. It does not discriminate. Some people have a family
history of mental illness which makes them more vulnerable. I always feel sorry for mentally ill people because
they are very misunderstood. They can't help it. That's the biggest thing people need to know. They need lots
of support, and understanding. We still don't know what happened to Adam.
ANIEE
The mentally ill have the right to own guns, just like all other Americans.
BigGovernment wants to take away the rights of all gun loving citizens to kill their own friends,family, neighbors,
and children.
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A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
This is a free country. Mass murders daily are a small price to pay to protect my 2nd amendment rights.
Makes sense, especially after reading the comments on this devil-worshipping website.
A LIKE REPLY 52 minutes ago in reply to Michael Valente F
http://vimeo.com/52009124
SPINDLETOP
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Michael Valente F
Mentally ill do not have the right to own huns in all instances, this murderer sole guns, loaded the gun,
pointed the gun, pulled the trigger, then He drove to the school, HE got out, HE went into the school,HE
loaded the guns, HE pulled the trigger, and you blame the gun? What did the gun do? Can the gun
drive? Can the gun load itself? Can the aim itself? Can the gun shoot itself?
OCB2
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Michael Valente 1 Like F
What a hypocrite you are. You spew hate and venom and then act like you are pious. Why after this
tragedy must you act this way? Where is your sense of decency?
RUNOK
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Michael Valente 1 Like F
Hyperbole much? Those who commit heinous crimes with guns should be prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law. Of course the ACLU feels sorry for the perpetrators and usually advocates for "the
slap on the wrist" punishment.
SUSANDIANE311
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago F
Home Alone boy,mommy to busy going to meetings and then she takes in 5 girls ,no wonder.
RALFFY
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago 8 Likes F
Wowww - Progressives are out in force on this topic, desperately trying to make the issues about guns and
clingers. When they provide answers to their social and economic failures that are Detroit, Chicago, Cali,Illinois, San Bernadino etc. they may be worth engaging in dialog. The trolls here seem more comfortable with
ensuring we all swim in the same cesspool their philosophies create rather than take ownership. Accountability
and self responsibility are not their strong suits after all.
ILOT
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to ILOT 3 Likes F
Don't mention the afro capital of North America called Deeeetroits, it's a secret. Don't mention that
50% of the populace can't read or write but they voted for barry, or that the murder count is over 357
dead, or that the city is broke, or that the ex mayor is in Federal court for corruption, or that the ex city
council pres and wife of Congressman john conyers is in prison for bribe taking, or that there are
between 50-60,000 loose dogs on the streets, or that there are over 20,000 homeless on the streets, or
there are over 60,000 abandoned houses and buildings, or there are over 80,000 street lights out, or
that the police dept no longer answers alarms, or the fire dept policy of not putting out fires in
dangerous neighborhoods..etc..etc..etc..
CIRCA53
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago 1 Like F
Lets ban archery too, Recall a loon killed in Casper, Wyoming a few days ago with a bow and a few arrows.
CIRCA53
I haven't seen this idea brought up yet: why not have a few stun guns
available and train reliable school personnel to use them when
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A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago F
necessary? That way an assailant could be rendered powerless until
authorities arrived on the scene. There would be no unintended stray
bullets to kill or maim innocent bystanders, either.
I admit I'm not an expert on these matters so maybe some of you could point out any flaws there might be or if
you think this would be a feasible solution.
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to susandiane311 F
So a teacher could get p.o.d at a six yr. old that won't quit wiggling in his seat and irritated teacher
decides that she can use this stun gun on him. No thanks.
ANIEE
A LIKE REPLY 16 minutes ago in reply to aniee F
Obviously that would not be allowed and the teacher who would do that would be disciplined
up to and including being fired.
SUSANDIANE0351
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to susandiane311 F
Stun guns have limitation on distance, you would still have to get closer to the shooter, and before you
could, BANG!
RIGHTTHEWRONG
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to susandiane311 2 Likes F
The libdemarxists will demand the stun guns be solar powered.
CIRCA53
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 1 Like F
Breitbart is guilty of piling on. 15 yard penalty for over reaching on this story.
CRAIGPURCELL
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 5 Likes F
Too much TV as babysitters, too much violent videos/movies, too much glorification of violence in music, too
much shoving prescription meds down the throats of "troubled" kids because it is more convenient for parentsand teachers, too many absentee fathers, too much "reality tv" making a bunch of guidos from NJ into
"stars",too many electronics gadgets as babysitters to pacify kids, and too many parents in denial that their kid
may not be perfect and may never be perfect and needs professional help.
RIGHTTHEWRONG
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 1 Like F
Sadly, I fear we should now beware of Breitbart.
Conservatives are not in favor of the government being able to more easily seize people that they
(liberals/government officials) claim to perceive as a threat.
I've seen nothing yet to warrant locking up this guy prior to his committing a crime. I suspect I'm missing some
important information, but I'd rather error on the side of not imprisoning people because liberals have read their
mind and decided they're dangerous.
FOXNEWSISATROJANHORSE
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 6 Likes F
You can't expect liberals to have common sense. You can bet one thing though, the ACLU will not cry foul
when this administration goes after our 2nd amendment rights. Gun control to this administration has
NOTHING to do with guns and everything to do with control. A well armed populace is the only thing standing
between them and tyranny. Alinsky 101.
SCOOTERBIGGS
Has Breibart fallen to such depths of depravity that even in these moments so shortly after this
horrendous tragedy that they choose to politicize? The posters, in their hatred, choose to label the
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A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to scooterbiggs F
liberals as lacking common sense, and make political issue of this event.
In the final analysis they are hurting their own cause, which is fine with n me.
A LIKE REPLY 1 hour ago in reply to DanielB 2 Likes F
Just a tad bit self righteous for me, even for a progressive. Over 80% of the news reporters
are of democratic affiliation and they are falling all over themselves to get "news" out. So
much so they've mis-represented who the shooter was right down to the mother being
employed at the school. In the end I don't think it's conservatives politicizing as much as we're
just sick of the news being tailored to a narrative. It's great tragedy and the reality is we now
live in a society the progressives have been developing since the 60's; one unlike the previous
200 +/- years. Don't dump on conservatives just because we point out the fact your societal
and financial ideologies are failing. Detroit, Cail, Illinois, San Bernadino are your models...and
they are all epic failures....
ILOT
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB 1 Like F
It was the MSM that politicized it from the gitgo.
DQUIXOTE
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB 4 Likes F
Ha..Within minutes barry and his flunkies were on this..Hey..What happened with barry's
mexican gun running?..
CIRCA53
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to Circa53 F
And tell me hater. How was Obama on this? Except, as you will deny, expressing his
concern and condolences on this tragedy? DUH!!
DANIELB
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB 2 Likes F
You mean like his concern with the white woman he was hugging in New Jersey after
the hurricane and promised to help, and everybody in the neighborhood say's he
hasn't been heard from since.. barry the fraud is doing it all for photo ops, he could
give a damn about a little town of white folks that got shot up, they didn't vote for him.
He don't give a damn about Deeeetroits and they did vote for him.
CIRCA53
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 2 Likes F
Tread lightly, folks. Whether due to mental illness or conviction of a crime, you are talking about depriving
someone of his liberty. That is serious business.
AMERICAN_IDEOLOGUE
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 4 Likes F
Of course this was defeated, if it had passed 9/10's of the libdemarxists would be gone.
CIRCA53
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 8 Likes F
Liberalism kills. It kills people, countries, and economies.
COOLERCOLEMAN
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to coolercoleman F
OMG, are you people are so calloused and uncaring?
DANIELB
Looking at your previous activity you are an Obama DNC mouth piece to hold back the
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A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB 1 Like F
criticism of liberalism. All you posts are the same. No substance just criticism of the poster.
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to coolercoleman F
Hey OK, possibly correct, from your demented point of view. Now show me how you
post with substance and lack of criticism for the poster. Hey , I stand corrected, but
not by virtue of your idiotic cliches.
DANIELB
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to coolercoleman 1 Like F
Liberalism stops the expansion of big government power to the detriment of the people once again...
PRADO4587
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to prado4587 F
How horrible can you people become with your hatred?
DANIELB
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB F
Dixie as you so astutely posted, this is an adult dialogue, whether we agree or not. So
why, when I choose to disagree do you suggest that I leave? Sort of an oxymoron.
DANIELB
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB 4 Likes F
This is an adult dialogue, whether we agree with some of the posts or not---you might
want to leave.
DIXIE T
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 2 Likes F
loud anti-gun noises to cover this up, maybe?
WEARY_OF_THE_LIES
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago 1 Like F
If we are as a society to get to the bottom of such senseless acts of violence we must put the relationship of
psychiatric medications and gun violence on the table. There is considerable evidence that these medications
cause severe adverse reactions in a percentage of users. Psychiatrist Peter Breggin has written about this in
his text Medication Madness. I think it's about time for congressional hearings on the subject
CMLS1945
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to cmls1945 F
There are LOTS of "safe" psychotropic medications for the mentally ill, that DO NOT cause people to
go out and MURDER! Schizophrenics have been on these medications FOR DECADES, and they
haven't gone out and killed ANYONE! That's like saying since Ted Bundy had taken 3 Tylenol #3
tablets before he murdered his victims---that Tylenol #3 needs to be BANNED! Uneducated people are
just making TOO MANY irrational statements about the CT killings. There are some things that we just
DO NOT have answers for---no matter how many people try to reach for, literally, hundreds of
"conclusions!" NO ONE KNOWS THE ANSWER! WE'RE ALL "GUESSING," AND NOTHING MORE!
DIXIE T
THE ISSUE DIXIE IS NOT THE MENTALLY ILL OR THE DRUGS...the issue is the
psychiatrists, the ACLU and the Democrats have passed laws to make it IMPOSSIBLE for
family members or society to commit the mentally ill....for money...er, I mean their well being of
course...Medical doctors embrace the whole family when a loved one has a physical
desease...but when loved ones have a mental illness the psychiatrists EXCLUDE the entire
family and ONLY the delusional, paranoid, mentally ill patient gets to decide who can be
included in his/her diagnosis and treatment...not every crazy patient murderes 20 babies, but
there are few good results ...Friday's murdering devil had an altercation with FOUR teachers
on Thursday...WHY DIDN'T THEY CALL THE POLICE?...because the State of CT defeated a
bill that would have allowed authorities to pick the evil devil up for evaluation? Instead he goes
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A LIKE REPLY 0 minutes ago in reply to Dixie T F
home and shoots his mother in the head 4 times, a protective mother FORCED to care for a
20 year old mentally ill son spiraling out of control...and now 20 babies will not open their
Christmas gifts in 9 days or live wonderful, complete lives.
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Dixie T F
Obviously you may not have the answers, but some of us, right or wrong, think we do. at the
very least we deserve a forum of discussion and consideration, and or arbitration.
DANIELB
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB F
Riley , where you're concerned, it's no contest.You pollute the earth and of course,
and it's a given, the world would be a better place if you ceased to exist.
DANIELB
A LIKE 2 hours ago in reply to DanielB F
Real rich coming from one of the filthiest mouths on this forum.
"We deserve a forum of discussion and consideration..."
How many times have you posted "DIE" or "DIE YOU SCUMBAG" over the past
couple of days?
RILEYK
A LIKE REPLY 3 hours ago in reply to cmls1945 3 Likes F
I have not read the book, but I am willing to wager all of this started back in the early 1990's. Before
then kids were not on this ridiculous list of psychiatric medications and were made to deal with their
problems.
Most guns were legal back then and kids were not going around schools, malls, etc shooting everybody
in sight.
SMP25
A LIKE REPLY 4 hours ago 2 Likes F
It will eventually happen, but some psycho is going to walk into a movie theatre, school, etc with an
unbanned hunting shotgun, revolver, etc. and progressives are going to look like a bunch of knee jerking fools
yet again who refuse to acknowledge the root cause of these problems.
SMP25
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to smp25 F
And the right is now directing their vindictive with a new tact...how depressing.
DANIELB
A LIKE REPLY 4 hours ago 3 Likes F
Asperger's syndrome in a patient that has never exhibited any form of violence would never be forcibly
institutionalized under a bill like this. Breitbarters scream about Dems using a tragedy for political gain, wtf is
this? Disgusting.
MRKING007
A LIKE REPLY 4 hours ago 2 Likes F
The ACLU strikes again. If we stop paying their legal fees when they "win" they will file far fewer cases. The
ACLU is a money laundering operation, or welfare for lawyers. They file case after case so they can get fees,
regardless of merit, or constutionality.
TEXASGRANDMOM
And you call yourself a grandmom??? How deprecating and horrible.
DANIELB
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You really are taking all these comments "too personally." It's OK not to!
DIXIE T
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I'll tell you Dixie, it is not for you to be the determining factor as to whether or not I am
taking these comments "too personally". I think that is within the domain of the
individual, as opposed to you establishing yourself as judge and jury on the
proprieties of my reactions.
DANIELB
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There was one person who could have prevented this entire sad event - the boy's MOTHER. She had a
disturbed young man in her home, but she kept guns there as well? Does that sound like a sane, responsible
decision? Whatever she did, if anything, to keep those guns away from her son, it was ineffective. Her lack of
responsibility resulted in her own death, and the death of all those innocent children. And yet, there are those
who would rather ban all guns than blame the ONE person who was truly responsible.
PAULYTICAL
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Paulytical F
Oh, give me a break! Being "mentally disturbed" DOES NOT mean someone will go out and kill
people! It doesn't sound like the shooter was ever "violent" at home---yet, we won't know that until all
the facts come out. And according to his Adviser at school, he was never "violent" at school, either.
The Adviser said he was "shy" and found it difficult to socialize---which is common in Aspergers! Are
we going to put ALL shy people "away," and people who have difficulty making friends????????? I
think not. People, it's "OK" NOT TO POINT OUT "BLAME," UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS!
DIXIE T
A LIKE REPLY 2 hours ago in reply to Dixie T F
There you go again, Dixis. Double standards. Agree or disagree, Paul was posting his opinion.
Why do you choose to get all bent out of shape when it differentiates from your perspective?
You are a paradox of emotional polarization.
DANIELB
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...maybe she was afraid of him... as well as for him... sounds like the father and other brother left her to
deal with him on her own... whatever the truth IS... he killed her first... so there was no one left with
whom he could talk... or who would try to reason with him... she was all he had... very, very sad... for
everyone...
AUNTGIDDY
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They absolutely did NOT want to stop this!!! If this would not have been allowed to happen, then their stage for
tighter "Gun control" would have been weakened dramatically!!!
DEF
I live in CT and from what I've been told there was NO altercation with school officials on Thursday...the ACLU
and ilk should be sued to the absolute max along with anyone else responsible for the deaths of the innocent
children and adults..money talks..
CT has one of the strictest gun laws in the America..he tried to buy a rifle on Thursday and was turned down
flat..
Sandy Hook School didn't stand a chance..he broke the door windows to get inside..he wasn't buzzed in..
It is well past time to bring back the mental institutes and lock the crazies up for good..I'm sick of the 'temporary
insanity' or 'mentally ill' for ANYONE..its been so abused that its common practice now..a practice that should
put any attorneys who try to use it in jail for a few weeks to think about what they're doing..
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Leftwingwackos are to blame for this mass shooting.
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