National Town Hall Meeting – ADS July 2013 Demand Response and Energy Efficiency – Avoiding Dysfunction in the DSM Family (or better yet, find pot of gold.

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National Town Hall Meeting – ADSJuly 2013

Demand Response and Energy Efficiency – Avoiding Dysfunction in the DSM Family

(or better yet, find pot of gold at end of rainbow)

Challenges to Integration

• Regulatory landscape: regulators see these as different resources and regulate separately

• Legislative authorization: EE is often a specific legislative requirement, but DR is a grid supply

• Internal organizational structures: utilities separate out delivery of these resources into different groups

• Few private sector contractors deliver both

Is the result: Dysfunction?

We are in the same sandbox

DR

EE

Good Example: ISO NE Forward Capacity Market

Our products interact with each other- whether we like it or not

Ratepayer EE program model

Customers do not have the resources or focusto meet policy goals:Justification for incentives

DR: original value proposition

• Assumption: the only value is system benefit, so deployment and payment is only within energy supply system-Customers share in value through payments to endure a negative impact: decreased comfort or productivity

Changing landscape

• Time Variable Rates• New technology can provide both EE and RE (and

customer amenity value) together (see NEST thermostat)• DR and EE both go through cycles of underlying demand

but not always the same cause or timing• Smart meters/Capacity Markets/environmental policies

expanding

Questions

• Is there a value proposition for a combined package to the same customer? – cost savings– integrated technology– clarity of message to the customer

• Are barriers to adoption similar or different with EE and DR?

Questions

• Will Smart meters really change the opportunity for DR and EE?

• Is there a fundamental difference between System wide DR vs. Distribution feeder targeted DR with respect to EE integration?

• Who is the key target for better marketing and education? Customers, Regulators, tech companies or the utility itself

Questions

• What is the vision for the future?• What are the barriers to getting there?• Do we have any success stories of fully-integrated

programs?– ISO NE– EnerNOC– Marshfield Energy Challenge

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