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January 2005
Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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TGn Opening Report - January
Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE 802.11. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein.
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Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures <http:// ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair <stuart.kerry@philips.com> as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE 802.11 Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at <patcom@ieee.org>.
Date: 2005-01-17
Name Company Address Phone email Bruce Kraemer Conexant 2401 Palm Bay Rd,
Palm Bay, FL, US 32905
+1-321-327-6704
bkraemer@conexant.com
Garth Hillman AMD 5402 East Ben White, Austin TX 78741
+1 (512) 602-7869
Garth.hillman@amd.com
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Meeting Logistics Info
http://ieee802.facetoface-events/wireless/attendee.html
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6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either:
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – May 2004
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
• Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
• Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
• Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
• Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
patcom@ieee.org
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003
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Additional Guidance
1. After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at http://standards.ieee.org/db/patents/index.html
2. Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator.
3. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited.
4. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited.
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
Use 802wirelessworld to register attendance
If you encounter Attendance Issues during the session send an email to Harry Worstell –– hworstell@att.com
• Questions on Voting status – see Harry Worstell –– hworstell@att.com
• Make sure your badges are correct
• Document Numbering was reset this morning
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November – Quick Summary Administrative introduction Review partial proposals and conduct Q&A panel
• Submitted questions first
Received one technical paper to facilitate comparison Review 4 complete proposals and conduct Q&A
• More than one round
Hold panel discussion and hear closing remarks Conduct low hurdle vote – roll call used Prepare January plans
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November Minutes 04/1437r1(36 pages) One question response blank filled in
AbstractCumulative minutes of the High Throughput Task Group sessions held during the IEEE 802.11 Plenary meeting
in San Antonio from November 15 through 19, 2004. The meeting was chaired by Bruce Kraemer from Conexant.
Executive Summary (also see closing report doc. 11-04-1512r0):• TGn was only granted 18 hours of meeting time.• 21 Partial proposals were each given 2 minutes to review the key points of their proposal
followed by a general Q&A and then a panel format Q&A session. • A comparison presentation, doc 11-04-1400r4, was given.• The 4 complete proposals were updated for 1 hour each and each proposal was given a
dedicated 1 hour period for Q&A. This was followed by a panel session Q&A and 5 minute summary.
• A Low Hurdle Vote (LHV) was held for the complete proposals where proposals not receiving 25% of the vote would be eliminated. The results of the LHV were MITMOT=47.37%; TGnSync=73.68%; WWiSE=64.66% and Qualcomm=56.77% so none of the proposals were eliminated. The detailed voting results have been appended to these minutes.
• The key agenda items for the January meeting were discussed. It will follow a similar format however the vote taken in January will be an Elimination vote.
• Time permiting, a Vice-Chair election will be held at the January meeting.
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Low Hurdle Ballot Results
• 25% approval level needed to continue
• Votes cast : 266
Vote Type
% Consider
ProposalMITMOT
ProposalTGnSync
ProposalWWiSE
ProposalQualcomm
47.4 73.7 64.7 56.8
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Approve Minutes
• Motion to approve minutes of the November session contained in document 04-1437r1
• Move: Jon Rosdahl
• Second: Adrian Stephens
• Approved: unanimously
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Complete Proposal Status Updates
• John Ketchum - Qualcomm
• Jinyen Zhang – Mitsubishi
• Marc de Courville - Motorola
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802.11 Agenda – January17- 21 ‘05 doc 04-1172
INTERIM
The graphic below describes the session of the IEEE P802.11 Working Group
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89th IEEE 802.11 WIRELESS LOCAL AREA NETWORKS SESSIONHyatt Regency Monterey, 1 Old Golf Course Road, Monterey, CA 93940-4908, USA
MONDAY (17th) TUESDAY (18th) THURSDAY (20th) FRIDAY (21st)WEDNESDAY (19th)
January 16th-21st, 2005
APF AHC
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TGn - January Schedule
Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday
8:00-10:00 6 10:30-12:30 8
1:30-3:30 10 14 184:00-6:00
2 12 16 207:30-9:30
4
Jan 17 Jan 18 Jan 19 Jan 20 Jan 21
Monday Meeting Room: Mark Thomas building, Regency I + II Tuesday: Monterey building, Pebble + Beach
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Agenda Logic1. Administrative introduction 1 hr2. Elect vice chair . 5 hr - 1 hr3. Revised technical presentations (2hr block) 1 hr PHY, 1hr MAC
– Technical comparison , clarifications, discrepancies – Presentation time, random speaker sequence for each round– Request 20 min for Q&A and/or submit questions via email
4. Revised comparison report (04-1400) – 1hr– Market/application reports -.5hr
5. Additional technical presentations 1hr6. 1st round of Q&A 4 hr7. Summary statement 5-10 min or panel8. Down select vote - special order or conditional based on adequate
discussion9. Plans for March
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Written Questions SubmittedAll TGnSync MITMOT Qualcomm WWiSE
Aryan Saed 4 4 2 1
Markus Muck 3 1
Tim Wakeley 4 4 2
Aon Mujtaba 7
Sean Coffey 8 1
Yunbiao Wang 1 1 1 1
Response doc 1632 1621 1623 1608
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Agenda Checkpoints
• Topic #1: Final panel before the vote.– Recommend skipping panel and moving to vote
• Straw Poll– Retain Panel (~30 min) - 41– Don’t Retain Panel - 63
• Topic #2: Vote time– Recommend starting vote at 1:30 pm Thursday
• Topic #3: Roll call vote results– Straw Poll
• Roll Call Vote Yes – 42 (43%)• Roll Call Vote No - 55
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Approve Agenda
• Motion to approve agenda as contained on previous slide including special orders for the
• Down Select vote at 1:30 PM Thursday
And
• Two hour time slots for each complete proposal on Tuesday
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TGn - January Schedule
Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
8:00-10:00 Technical/Comparison
Presentations 10:30-12:30 MitMot Proposal
Presentations
Q&A
1:30-3:30 WWiSE Proposal
Presentations
Q&A
Q&A
½ hour eachDown Select at 1:30 PM
4:00-6:00
Opening, Agenda
Minutes, Comparison
Presentations
TGnSync Proposal Presentations
Q&A
Q&A
½ hour each
Presentations
March plans
Presentation
7:30-9:30
Election, Various Comparison
Presentations
Jan 17 Jan 18 Jan 19 Jan 20
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Technical/Comparison Presentations
Non-proposal authors
• Field Measurements of 2x2 MIMO Communications, Babak Daneshrad, UCLA, 05-1627
• TGn Consensus Proposal, HP & Infineon, 05-1625; Tim Wakeley
• Service Provider Requirements, Bellsouth & Qwest, 05-1644
• Beamforming and MAC, Aryan Saed, 05-0020 (Thursday)
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Technical/Comparison Presentations
Proposal Authors• Closed vs Open Loop Comparisons, John Ketchum, 05-1630; done Monday• 1579 – ACI Results, Dave HedbergTuesday1. 1634 - Comparison of Value of proposed MAC features, Adrian Stephens,2. 05-006 – Backward Compatibility of CDD Preambles, - Tsuguhide Aoki3. 1581 – Preamble Power Variations, Dave Hedberg4. 1616 – WWiSE Pilot Performance, Allert van Zeist5. 1636 – Impact of Fewer Pilot Tones on .11n Phy, Won-Joon Choi6. 1590 – Legacy Effects of WWiSE Preambles, Chris HansenWednesday• 1635 – Preambles and MIMO Beam Forming – Sadowsky• 1645 – Preambles, Beam Forming for WWiSE, Chris Hansen
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.11n Vice Chair Election
• Sheung Li - 72
• Art Astin – 32
• Sheung Li is the new Vice Chair
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