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Job 23:1-9. Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.

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Page 1: Job 23:1-9. Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.

Job 23:1-9

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Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.

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Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.◦ “He was despised and rejected by men; a man of

sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not” (Is 53:3, ESV).

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Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.◦ Is 53:3. ◦ “And taking with him Peter and the two sons of

Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he said to them, ‘My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me’” (Mt 26:37-38, ESV).

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Suffering will come to us, for it came to Jesus.◦ Is 53:3. ◦ Mt 26:37-38.

If God did not keep suffering away from his only Son, who am I that he’d keep it away from me?

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In our suffering, we often have questions for God.

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In our suffering, we often have questions for God.◦ “Why has the LORD defeated us today before the

Philistines?” (1 Sm 4:3, ESV).

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In our suffering, we often have questions for God.◦ “Why has the LORD defeated us today before the

Philistines?” (1 Sm 4:3, ESV). ◦ “Why, O LORD, do you stand far away? Why do you

hide yourself in times of trouble?” (Ps 10:1, ESV).

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In our suffering, we often have questions for God.◦ “Why has the LORD defeated us today before the

Philistines?” (1 Sm 4:3, ESV). ◦ “Why, O LORD, do you stand far away? Why do you

hide yourself in times of trouble?” (Ps 10:1, ESV). ◦ “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mt

27:46, ESV).

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In this morning’s text, Job has a question for God.

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In this morning’s text, Job has a question for God.◦ “Where is God?”

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In this morning’s text, Job has a question for God.◦ “Where is God?”◦ Job’s friends provide accusations instead of comfort.

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In this morning’s text, Job has a question for God.◦ “Where is God?”◦ Job’s friends provide accusations instead of comfort.

In antiquity, people believed that if you suffered, God was punishing you.

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In this morning’s text, Job has a question for God.◦ “Where is God?”◦ Job’s friends provide accusations instead of comfort.

In antiquity, people believed that if you suffered, God was punishing you.

Therefore, Job’s friends firmly believe that he has sinned & is being punished.

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“Is not your evil abundant? There is no end to your iniquities. For you have exacted pledges of your brothers for nothing and stripped the naked of their clothing. You have given no water to the weary to drink, and you have withheld bread from the hungry. The man with power possessed the land, and the favored man lived in it. You have sent widows away empty, and the arms of the fatherless were crushed. Therefore snares are all around you, and sudden terror overwhelms you, or darkness, so that you cannot see, and a flood of water covers you” (22:5-11, ESV).

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In this morning’s passage, Job has had it.

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In this morning’s passage, Job has had it.◦ He’s fed up with his friends’ character assassination &

he’s tired of God’s silence.

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In this morning’s passage, Job has had it.◦ He’s fed up with his friends’ character assassination &

he’s tired of God’s silence.◦ Job really just wants God to show up & establish his

integrity.

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vv 2-3

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“Today also my complaint is bitter; my hand is heavy on account of my groaning. Oh, that I knew where I might find him, that I might come even to his seat!” (vv 2-3, ESV).

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Job is very discouraged.

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Job is very discouraged.◦ His complaint is bitter.

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Job is very discouraged.◦ His complaint is bitter.◦ He has a heavy hand.

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Job is very discouraged.◦ His complaint is bitter.◦ He has a heavy hand.

A “heavy hand” in the Old Testament refers to discouragement.

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Job is very discouraged.◦ His complaint is bitter.◦ He has a heavy hand.

A “heavy hand” in the Old Testament refers to discouragement.

“We have heard the report of it; our hands fall helpless; anguish has taken hold of us, pain as of a woman in labor” (Jer 6:24, ESV).

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First, his friends’ accusations have been hard.

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First, his friends’ accusations have been hard.◦ Eliphaz: “Remember: who that was innocent ever

perished? Or where were the upright cut off? As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same. By the breath of God they perish, and by the blast of his anger they are consumed” (4:7-9, ESV).

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First, his friends’ accusations have been hard.◦ Eliphaz: “Remember: who that was innocent ever

perished? Or where were the upright cut off? As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same. By the breath of God they perish, and by the blast of his anger they are consumed” (4:7-9, ESV).

◦ Zophar: “Do you not know this from of old, since man was placed on earth, that the exulting of the wicked is short, and the joy of the godless but for a moment?” (20:4-5, ESV).

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.◦ That was Jesus’ way.

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.◦ That was Jesus’ way; when a leper asked to be healed,

Mark records, Mark records, “Moved with pity, [Jesus] stretched out his hand and touched him and said to him, ‘I will; be clean’” (Mk 1:41, ESV).

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.◦ That was Jesus’ way (Mk 1:41). ◦ Jesus expects compassion from his disciples.

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.◦ That was Jesus’ way (Mk 1:41). ◦ Jesus expects compassion from his disciples.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God” (2 Cor 1:3-4, ESV).

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The people of God need to be a comforting people.◦ That was Jesus’ way (Mk 1:41). ◦ Jesus expects compassion from his disciples.

2 Cor 1:3-4. “Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who

weep” (Rom 12:15, ESV).

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Second: Job could be very discouraged with God.

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Second: Job could be very discouraged with God.◦ It doesn’t seem that Job is upset with God over his

suffering, per se.

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Second: Job could be very discouraged with God.◦ It doesn’t seem that Job is upset with God over his

suffering, per se.◦ But, he’s quite upset that God hasn’t appeared to

vindicate him.

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Maybe we’ve faced similar discouragement with God.

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Maybe we’ve faced similar discouragement with God.◦ We’ve done the right thing, but that’s made us the

subject of scorn & ridicule.

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Maybe we’ve faced similar discouragement with God.◦ We’ve done the right thing, but that’s made us the

subject of scorn & ridicule.◦ In the end, Job gets his vindication.

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Maybe we’ve faced similar discouragement with God.◦ We’ve done the right thing, but that’s made us the

subject of scorn & ridicule.◦ In the end, Job gets his vindication: God says to

Eliphaz, “My anger burns against you and against your two friends, for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer up a burnt offering for yourselves. And my servant Job shall pray for you, for I will accept his prayer not to deal with you according to your folly. For you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has” (42:7-8, ESV).

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In the end, we, too, shall get vindication from God.

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In the end, we, too, shall get vindication from God.◦ “God considers it just to repay with affliction those who

afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels” (2 Thess 1:6-7, ESV).

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In the end, we, too, shall get vindication from God.◦ “God considers it just to repay with affliction those who

afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels” (2 Thess 1:6-7, ESV).

◦ Vindication may not come in this life, but it shall come.

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vv 4-7

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“I would lay my case before him and fill my mouth with arguments. I would know what he would answer me and understand what he would say to me. Would he contend with me in the greatness of his power? No; he would pay attention to me. There an upright man could argue with him, and I would be acquitted forever by my judge” (vv 4-7, ESV).

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Job uses legal language to bring a complaint against God.

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Job uses legal language to bring a complaint against God.◦ Job believed he had every right to contend with God.

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Job uses legal language to bring a complaint against God.◦ Job believed he had every right to contend with God.◦ Job wants to lay his arguments before God.

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But, Job says this isn’t going to be a one-sided argument.

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But, Job says this isn’t going to be a one-sided argument.◦ He will listen to what God has to say.

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But, Job says this isn’t going to be a one-sided argument.◦ He will listen to what God has to say.◦ The Book of Job uses much, marvelous irony.

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But, Job says this isn’t going to be a one-sided argument.◦ He will listen to what God has to say.◦ The Book of Job uses much, marvelous irony.

Job will understand what God has to say, and God will not contend with Job “in the greatness of his power.”

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But, Job says this isn’t going to be a one-sided argument.◦ He will listen to what God has to say.◦ The Book of Job uses much, marvelous irony.

Job will understand what God has to say, and God will not contend with Job “in the greatness of his power.”

Yet, when God appears, just the opposite occurs!

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.◦ “The LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind” (38:1,

ESV).

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.◦ “The LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind” (38:1,

ESV). ◦ Talk about power!

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.

Job does not understand what God has to say.

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“Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: ‘Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:1-7, ESV).

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.

Job does not understand what God has to say.◦ God questions Job about the Creation (38:1-7).

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God does contend with Job in the greatness of his power.

Job does not understand what God has to say.◦ God questions Job about the Creation (38:1-7).◦ Job then says, “Behold, I am of small account; what

shall I answer you? I lay my hand on my mouth. I have spoken once, and I will not answer; twice, but I will proceed no further” (40:4-5, ESV).

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.

“My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Mt 26:39, ESV).

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.

“My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Mt 26:39, ESV).

“Instead you ought to say, ‘If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that’” (Js 4:15, ESV).

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.◦ God has far greater wisdom than we.

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.◦ God has far greater wisdom than we.

“Who would not fear you, O King of the nations? For this is your due; for among all the wise ones of the nations and in all their kingdoms there is none like you” (Jer 10:7, ESV).

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We dare not believe that we can place God in a box & have him all figured out.◦ God acts according to his will, not ours.◦ God has far greater wisdom than we.

Jer 10:7. “The foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the

weakness of God is stronger than men” (1 Cor 1:25, ESV).

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vv 8-9

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Job is distant—he is far removed from God.

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Job is distant—he is far removed from God. “Behold, I go forward, but he is not there, and

backward, but I do not perceive him; on the left hand when he is working, I do not behold him; he turns to the right hand, but I do not see him” (vv 8-9, ESV).

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Because God did not act according to Job’s desires, he believed that he was distant.

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Because God did not act according to Job’s desires, he believed that he was distant.◦ But, we know that God was greatly involved in Job’s

suffering.

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Because God did not act according to Job’s desires, he believed that he was distant.◦ But, we know that God was greatly involved in Job’s

suffering. “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him

do not stretch out your hand” (1:12, ESV).

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Because God did not act according to Job’s desires, he believed that he was distant.◦ But, we know that God was greatly involved in Job’s

suffering. “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him

do not stretch out your hand” (1:12, ESV). “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life” (2:6, ESV).

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Because God did not act according to Job’s desires, he believed that he was distant.◦ But, we know that God was greatly involved in Job’s

suffering. “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him

do not stretch out your hand” (1:12, ESV). “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life” (2:6, ESV).

◦ Without God, Job’s suffering could have been much, much worse.

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering.

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering. “We know that for those who love God all things work

together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose” (Rom 8:28, ESV).

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering. Rom 8:28. “Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of

various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing” (Js 1:2-4, ESV).

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering. Rom 8:28. “Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of

various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing” (Js 1:2-4, ESV). James says that we need to be joyful when we face trials.

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering. Rom 8:28. “Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of

various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing” (Js 1:2-4, ESV). James says that we need to be joyful when we face trials. Why?

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We dare not believe that God is far away when we are suffering.◦ Without God, our suffering would be much worse.◦ We know that God works wonders through our

suffering. Rom 8:28. “Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of

various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing” (Js 1:2-4, ESV). James says that we need to be joyful when we face trials. Why? Because we know that we’ll be better people after the

trial.

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But, Job has already answered that question!

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But, Job has already answered that question! “Oh, that I knew where I might find him, that I

might come even to his seat!” (v 3, ESV).

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But, Job has already answered that question! “Oh, that I knew where I might find him, that I

might come even to his seat!” (v 3, ESV). ◦ God’s “seat” refers to his throne.

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But, Job has already answered that question! “Oh, that I knew where I might find him, that I

might come even to his seat!” (v 3, ESV). ◦ God’s “seat” refers to his throne.◦ “But the LORD sits enthroned forever; he has

established his throne for justice, and he judges the world with righteousness; he judges the peoples with uprightness” (Ps 9:7-8, ESV).

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