Top Banner
farrell y’s Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010
47

Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

Mar 26, 2015

Download

Documents

Bailey Russo
Welcome message from author
This document is posted to help you gain knowledge. Please leave a comment to let me know what you think about it! Share it to your friends and learn new things together.
Transcript
Page 1: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding avoidable mistakes

Tim FarrellyAugust 2010

Page 2: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding avoidable mistakes

• Bubbles are big and compelling• The damage is significant and long

term• But can they be identified in

advance?• Can we avoid them?

Page 3: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Bubbles – big and compelling

Asset Year of peak

Gold (US$) Jan 1980

Japanese equities (Yen) Jan 1990

Japanese residential property (Yen)

1991

US equities (US$) Mar 2000

US REITs (US$) Mar 2007

A good idea because…

The ultimate inflation hedge

Japanese companies taking over the world

Rising demand, limited supply

The internet revolution

Stable income, low risk, high returns

Page 4: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

…but cause significant damage

Asset Year of peak

Fall from peak to trough

Gold (US$) Jan 1980 -71%

Japanese equities (Yen) Jan 1990 -82%

Japanese residential property1 (Yen)

1991 -65%

US equities (US$) Mar 2000 -56%

US REITs (US$) Mar 2007 -71%

Page 5: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Significant….. and permanent

Asset Peak 10 years after peakValue of $1000

20 years after peak Value of $1000

Real value of asset

Real value of bonds

Real value of

asset

Real value of bonds

Gold (US$) Jan 1980

$297 $1990 $155 $3458

Japanese equities (Yen)

Jan 1990

Y328 Y1977 Y496 Y2386

Japanese residential property (Yen)

1991 Y561 Y1962 Y6891 Y22711

US equities (US$) Mar 2000

$729 $1819 na na

US REITs (US$) Mar 2007

na na na na

1. 19 years after peak

Page 6: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Can your clients afford one or more of these experiences?

Asset Year of peak

Fall from peak to trough

Time till trough

Gold (US$) Jan 1980 -71% 19 yrs

Japanese equities (Yen) Jan 1990 -82% 19 yrs

Japanese residential property (Yen)

1991 -65% 14 yrs

US equities (US$) Mar 2000 -56% 9 yrs

US REITs (US$) Mar 2007 -71% 2 yrs

Page 7: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding avoidable mistakes

• Bubbles are big and compelling• The damage is significant and long

term• Can bubbles be identified in

advance?• How can we avoid them?

Page 8: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

The Occam’s Razor approach tp long term forecasting

Income

+

Growth in income

+ or -

Effect of change of PE Ratio

Page 9: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Long run returns-an example

5%pa

EPS PE Price Contribution

$1.00 10 $10.00Income Growth

Income

PE effect

Total 5%pa

+

+

Page 10: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Long run returns-an example

5%pa

EPS PE Price Contribution

$1.00 10 $10.00

$2.00 10 $20.00

+7%paIncome Growth

Income

PE effect

Total12%pa

+

+

Page 11: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Long run returns-an example

5%pa

EPS PE Price Contribution

$1.00 10 $10.00

$2.00 10 $20.00

$2.00 20 $40.00

+7%pa

+7%pa

Income Growth

Income

PE effect

Total19%pa

+

+

Page 12: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Long run returns-an example

5%pa

EPS PE Price Contribution

$1.00 10 $10.00

$2.00 10 $20.00

$2.00 5 $10.00

+7%pa

-7%pa

Income Growth

Income

PE effect

Total 5%pa

+

+

Page 13: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield ? Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS ?

Change in PE PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : ?

Total

Page 14: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5% Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS

Change in PE PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : ?

Total

Page 15: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

How fast can companies grow their earnings?Aus GDP v EPS Growth10 year rolling returns

0%

4%

8%

12%

16%

1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005Nom GDP Growth EPS Growth

Page 16: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Capitalism at work…Aus EPS Smoothed v Actual

0

50

100

150

200

250

300

350

400

1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005

Australian earnings Smoothed earnings

Page 17: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5 Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS 3.6

Change in PE PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : ?

Total

Page 18: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5 Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS 3.6

Change in PE ? PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : ?

Total

Page 19: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Where will PE’s be in 2020?Australian PE's vs. Inflation

1961-2009

468

1012141618202224

0% 5% 10% 15% 20%Inflation

PE

ratio

Page 20: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Where will PE’s be in 2020?Australian PE's vs. Inflation

1961-2009

468

1012141618202224

0% 5% 10% 15% 20%Inflation

PE

ratio

Page 21: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5 Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS 3.6

Change in PE 0.8 PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : 16.0

Total

Page 22: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5 Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS 3.6

Change in PE 0.8 PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : 16.0

Total 9.9%pa

Page 23: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Forecasting Australian equities returns & bonds

Return driver Estimate Notes

Yield 5.5 Includes imputation credits

Growth in EPS 3.6

Change in PE 0.8 PE now : 14.7PE 2020 : 16.0

Total 9.9%pa

10 year Govt bonds

5.2%pa

Page 24: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

What did this framework indicate about bubbles?

• US REITs• The internet revolution• Japanese equities• Gold

Page 25: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

REITs yields are historically low

Source Nareit

US Equity REIT Yields

3

5

7

9

11

13

15

72 77 82 87 92 97 02 07

As at March 2007

Page 26: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Price/Distribution makes US REITs look extremely

overstretchedUS Equity REIT multiples

3

8

13

18

23

28

33

72 77 82 87 92 97 02 07

As at March 2007

Page 27: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

What lemmings believe…

Page 28: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

US Equity REITs forecast

Yield 3.4%

Earnings Growth Inflation + reinvestment-depreciation - leakage

1.9%

Valuation Effect Yield rises to 5.6% from 3.4%

-5.4%

Currency Aussie bonds less US bonds; 5.8%-4.8%

1.0%

Total 0.9%pa

As at March 2007

Page 29: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

10 Year Forecastsas at October 2000

Asset Dividend

Yield

EPSGrowth

PE Effect

CentralForecas

t

Australian Equities

4.5% 5.0% -1% 8.5%

US Equities 1.0% 6.0% -1% 6.0%

LPTs 8.5% 1.0% 0% 9.5%

Bonds 6.0% 0% 0% 6.0%

Page 30: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Realistic 10 Year Forecastsas at October 2000

Asset Dividend

Yield

EPSGrowth

PE Effect

CentralForecas

t

Australian Equities

4.5% 5.0% -1% 8.5%

US Equities 1.0% 4.0% -3.5% 1.5%

LPTs 8.5% 1.0% 0% 9.5%

Bonds 6.0% 0% 0% 6.0%

Based on 2010 PE of 21

Page 31: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Japanese equity forecast

Yield 0.8%

Earnings Growth Inflation + reinvestment-depreciation - leakage

6.0%

Valuation Effect

Total (Yen terms)

PE falls from 58.4 to 20 -10.1%

-3.3%p

a

Japanese Bonds 4.5%

As at December 1988

Page 32: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Gold really is an inflation hedge.

Gold price in 1980 US dollars

$0

$100

$200

$300

$400

$500

$600

$700

1850 1870 1890 1910 1930 1950 1970 1990 2010

Actual 50 year average

Page 33: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding avoidable mistakes

• Bubbles are big and compelling• The damage is significant and long

term• But can they be identified in

advance?• How can we avoid them?

Page 34: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding bubbles : even smart investors are at risk

Newton invests a bit

From GMO: Isaac Newton’s Nightmare

Page 35: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding bubbles : even smart investors are at risk

Newton invests a bit

Newton exits happy

From GMO: Isaac Newton’s Nightmare

Page 36: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding bubbles : even smart investors are at risk

Newton invests a bit

Newton’s friends get

rich

Newton exits happy

From GMO: Isaac Newton’s Nightmare

Page 37: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding bubbles : even smart investors are at risk

Newton invests a bit

Newton’s friends get

rich

Newton exits happy

Newton re-enters with a

lot

From GMO: Isaac Newton’s Nightmare

Page 38: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Avoiding bubbles : even smart investors are at risk

Newton invests a bit

Newton’s friends get

rich

Newton exits happy Newton

exits broke

Newton re-enters with a

lot

From GMO: Isaac Newton’s Nightmare

Page 39: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

Australian Equities Outperformance vs Cash

0

500

1000

1500

2000

2500

3000

3500

81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92

All Ords Expensive

Market first became

overvalued in early 1985

Page 40: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Japan was much worse…Market first

became overvalued

in mid 1983

J apanese Equities Outperformance vs Cash

0

5000

10000

15000

20000

25000

81 83 85 87 89 91 93 95 97

Nikkei Expensive

Page 41: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Again in the late 90’s

Equities Outperformance vs Cash

0

1000

2000

3000

4000

5000

6000

7000

95 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03

All Ords S&P500 . Expensive

Page 42: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

US REITS first became expensive in 2004

US Equity REIT multiples

3

8

13

18

23

28

33

72 77 82 87 92 97 02 07

Page 43: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Gold a very long time in the expensive range…

Gold Price in 1980 US$

$0

$100

$200

$300

$400

$500

$600

$700

1950 1970 1990 2010

Actual 50 year average

Page 44: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Don’t want to sell too early…

Date first expensive

Peak Time to peak

Gold Apr 1973 Jan 1980 6 years, 9 months

Japanese equities Sep 1983 Jan 1990 6 years, 4 months

Australian equities Feb 1985 Oct 1987 2 years, 8 months

Japanese residential property 1985 1991 6 years

US equities Sep 1987 Oct 1987 2 months

US equities Apr 1986 Aug 2000 4 years, 4 months

US REITs Mar 2005 Jan 2007 1 year, 10 months

Chinese Equities Jan 2007 Oct 2007 9 months

Australian equities Dec 2007 Jan 2008 1 month

Page 45: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Because we don’t know how long or how high…

• Just don’t buy expensive assets• Sellers can take their time

Page 46: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

The new imperative in asset allocation

• Bubbles are a recurring theme• The damage caused is significant

and permanent• No one is immune from their charms• They can be clearly identified in

advance• They are an avoidable mistake

Page 47: Farrellys Avoiding avoidable mistakes Tim Farrelly August 2010.

farrelly’s

Disclaimer.

This presentation has been prepared on the basis that it is only for the exclusive use of the person for whom it was provided. Although information is derived from sources considered and believed to be reliable and accurate, farrelly’s, it’s employees, consultants, advisers and officers are not liable for any opinion expressed or for any error or omission that may have occurred in this presentation. Any forecasts included are reasonably believed to be reliable based on current information but due to our inability to predict future events with certainty, they cannot be guaranteed. This presentation is of a general nature only and has been prepared without taking into account any persons particular investment objectives, financial situation or particular needs.